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I'm quite sure this isn't how Mike Norvell envisioned the way his FSU career would start. copy/pasta'd from Mark Schlabach at ESPN
Florida State star defensive lineman Marvin Wilson (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4240029/marvin-wilson) disputed that new Seminoles coach Mike Norvell reached out to players individually to discuss last week's death of George Floyd in Minneapolis, and Wilson said he and his teammates would not be working out until further notice.
During an interview with The Athletic earlier this week, Norvell said he "had a lot of open communication" with his players and "went back and forth individually with every player this weekend."
"And that was something that was important to me because this is a heartbreaking time in our country," Norvell said, according to The Athletic. "You see hate and you see discrimination. You see some of the acts that have occurred. I mean, it's a problem. And it's something that we have to stand together and we have to work to get it fixed."
In a tweet (https://twitter.com/marvinwilson21/status/1268395525495193601) early Thursday morning, Wilson disputed that Norvell had one-on-one discussions with players and said Florida State players received only a "generated" text from Norvell.
"This is a lie and me and my teammates as a whole are outraged and we will not be working out until further notice," Wilson wrote.
Man this 💩 did not happen mane. We got a generated text that was sent to everybody. There was no one on one talk between us and coach. This is a lie and me and my teammates as a whole are outraged and we will not be working out until further notice 💯 #hunchoout (https://twitter.com/hashtag/hunchoout?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw) https://t.co/6Uuy6K7Eu3 (https://t.co/6Uuy6K7Eu3)
— HEAD HUNCHO💧 (@marvinwilson21) June 4, 2020 (https://twitter.com/marvinwilson21/status/1268395525495193601?ref_src=twsrc^tfw)
A source confirmed to ESPN that Florida State was having a team meeting Thursday morning.
Norvell and Wilson couldn't immediately be reached for comment on Thursday. A Florida State spokesman didn't immediately respond to a request for comment from ESPN on Thursday.
According to The Athletic, Norvell told Reed, "I'll continue to share with our guys the platform that they have and the opportunity that is there for them to make a difference, to be an influence and to be able to impact our country in a positive way by the overall mindset and approach of how we treat people to how we respond in situations. I told these guys just how grateful I am to be a part of this journey with them because they are the future."
Floyd, a black man, was killed last week in Minneapolis after Derek Chauvin, a white police officer, kneeled on his neck for more than eight minutes. Floyd's death sparked protests against police brutality throughout the country over the past several days.
Florida State defensive end Jamarcus Chatman (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4363048/jamarcus-chatman), offensive lineman Darius Washington (https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4568262/darius-washington) and cornerback Isaiah Bolden (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4363036/isaiah-bolden) shared Wilson's tweet, as did Clemson (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/228/clemson-tigers) defensive end Xavier Thomas (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4360304/xavier-thomas) and Duke (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/150/duke-blue-devils) defensive end Drew Jordan (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4240471/drew-jordan).
FSU players returned to campus Monday for voluntary workouts after a three-month absence because of the coronavirus pandemic (https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/28871525/coronavirus-cancellations-reactions-sports).
Wilson, a senior from Houston, is the No. 9 prospect overall and No. 1 defensive tackle on ESPN NFL draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr.'s 2021 Big Board. Wilson had 8½ tackles for loss and five sacks in nine games before suffering a season-ending hand injury in 2019.
Florida State hired Norvell in December after he took Memphis (https://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/235/memphis-tigers) to unprecedented heights in four seasons, including an American Athletic Conference championship and Cotton Bowl appearance last season.
One of the youngest head coaches in the country when he took over at Memphis, Norvell, 38, replaced Willie Taggart at Florida State. FSU fired Taggart nine games into his second season at the school after his teams went 9-12 in his two seasons as coach.
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Here's how a real coach (Dye, Majors, Tubs, etc.) would handle that.
"Alright, men. Listen up! First thing is what we do here in this program STAYS in this program. Next one of you mother fuckers decides he cute wants to tweet, instagram, snapper chat, send a gotdamn raven about something a coach says or he thinks he hears a coach says, you're done here. Full stop. Oh, but you won't be released. I'll be damned if we are gonna shape you in to a killing machine for someone else. Nope. Your ass can ride the bench and go to class until you graduate. But you won't play a down.
Second, anybody in here ran until you puked? Well, you are all about to get a taste or three of that. You will run til you puke and you will puke in one of 8 specific places. We've put large trash cans all around the stadium. Use those. You spew on the ground or miss the can, you're picking it up and putting in the can. Oh, and you'll add 10 minutes of running for everyone.
Third, you have until tonight at midnight to delete all social media accounts outside of LinkedIn. Don't know what LinkedIn is? Figure it out.
Fourth, don't any of you EVER EVER betray the trust that is this team and this lockerroom again. For those of you being punished even thought you didn't do anything wrong? Well, this is what it's like to have to pick up someone else's shit when they leave it on your floor.
Fifth, all team captains are now dismissed. New captains will be elected but none of the current and outgoing are eligible. You've lost that privilege.
Sixth and final, you have five minute to get your asses outside and get ready to run. MOVE IT!"
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Here's how a real coach (Dye, Majors, Tubs, etc.) would handle that.
"Alright, men. Listen up! First thing is what we do here in this program STAYS in this program. Next one of you mother fudgeers decides he cute wants to tweet, instagram, snapper chat, send a gotdamn raven about something a coach says or he thinks he hears a coach says, you're done here. Full stop. Oh, but you won't be released. I'll be damned if we are gonna shape you in to a killing machine for someone else. Nope. Your ass can ride the bench and go to class until you graduate. But you won't play a down.
Second, anybody in here ran until you puked? Well, you are all about to get a taste or three of that. You will run til you puke and you will puke in one of 8 specific places. We've put large trash cans all around the stadium. Use those. You spew on the ground or miss the can, you're picking it up and putting in the can. Oh, and you'll add 10 minutes of running for everyone.
Third, you have until tonight at midnight to delete all social media accounts outside of LinkedIn. Don't know what LinkedIn is? Figure it out.
Fourth, don't any of you EVER EVER betray the trust that is this team and this lockerroom again. For those of you being punished even thought you didn't do anything wrong? Well, this is what it's like to have to pick up someone else's shoot when they leave it on your floor.
Fifth, all team captains are now dismissed. New captains will be elected but none of the current and outgoing are eligible. You've lost that privilege.
Sixth and final, you have five minute to get your asses outside and get ready to run. MOVE IT!"
Keep it down home cuz
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They're just wrestlin' with them angels.
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Basically the entire country is being held hostage by 18-29 year olds now. Not sure this is surprising to read that the players won't come to practice unless coarch licks their ass.
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Not sure this is surprising to read that the players won't come to practice unless coarch licks their ass.
You know who won't lick their ass?
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Basically the entire country is being held hostage by 18-29 year olds now. Not sure this is surprising to read that the players won't come to practice unless coarch licks their ass.
I don't think it's about kid-ego or ass-licking.
Something very impactful is happening to these kids' communities and the dipshit coach created a lie to seem performatively "woke." He got called on his shit, rightfully so. It was disrespectful to the kids.
Besides, this guy gets no benefit of the doubt from this team. He's not earned any trust to be burnt.
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You know who won't lick their ass?
Where do I sign up for the ass licking? I mean to get mine licked.
Can we choose who licks? I want Token, first. Then, Snags. Then, Wes, CTEAU, etc.
I have cash.
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You know who won't lick their ass?
I don't wanna put any undue pressure on you guys, but Coach Gennero's last words were, win or I'll die.
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I don't think it's about kid-ego or ass-licking.
Something very impactful is happening to these kids' communities and the dipshit coach created a lie to seem performatively "woke." He got called on his shit, rightfully so. It was disrespectful to the kids.
Besides, this guy gets no benefit of the doubt from this team. He's not earned any trust to be burnt.
Something very fake.
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I don't wanna put any undue pressure on you guys, but Coach Gennero's last words were, win or I'll die.
NOT A GOD DAMN THING'S been working for us. Like this goddamn suit doesn't work for me... and this stinking tie... and this goddamned shirt. IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAY WINNING HARD-NOSED FOOTBALL? YOU PLAY FOOTBALL LIKE ED GENERRO PLAYED FOOTBALL. A guy who gave his life for this football team. He was a 140-pound halfback, and HE PLAYED LIKE A GODDAMN WILDMAN! NO! LIKE A GODDAMN RAMPAGING BEAST! And that's the way you got to do it! YOU GO OUT THERE! YOU TEAR THEIR FUCKING HEADS OFF, AND YOU SHIT DOWN THEIR NECKS!
Let us pray.
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Something very fake.
To you.
Ask those kids what it feels like in their neighborhoods these days.
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NOT A GOD DAMN THING'S been working for us. Like this goddamn suit doesn't work for me... and this stinking tie... and this goddamned shirt. IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAY WINNING HARD-NOSED FOOTBALL? YOU PLAY FOOTBALL LIKE ED GENERRO PLAYED FOOTBALL. A guy who gave his life for this football team. He was a 140-pound halfback, and HE PLAYED LIKE A GODDAMN WILDMAN! NO! LIKE A GODDAMN RAMPAGING BEAST! And that's the way you got to do it! YOU GO OUT THERE! YOU TEAR THEIR FUCKING HEADS OFF, AND YOU SHIT DOWN THEIR NECKS!
Let us pray.
How many time outs do we have left?
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To you.
Ask those kids what it feels like in their neighborhoods these days.
People are making a much bigger deal of this than it actually is.
So what if all of these players and ones of other teams decide to sit out the upcoming season? It will only be the black players.
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To you.
Ask those kids what it feels like in their neighborhoods these days.
It’s the same thing as before. You keep committing crimes, the police shows up. Police are 18.5 times more likely to be shot by a black assailant. I have no idea why cops would be nervous...The reality is their anguish is based on media lies. The numbers do not support it.
I guess if you feel guilty enough, you can kneel and kiss their feet. That won’t be happening here.
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To you.
Ask those kids what it feels like in their neighborhoods these days.
“Feels likeâ€
Substituting emotion for reality. Forget the truth. Rage on.
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“Feels likeâ€
Substituting emotion for reality. Forget the truth. Rage on.
White liberals and rich blacks are keeping racism alive and well.
Some call them “white saviorsâ€.
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How many time outs do we have left?
They know that one's coming.
They haven't seen it right yet!
Love that movie.
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“Feels likeâ€
Substituting emotion for reality. Forget the truth. Rage on.
Manufactured Hysterics. Letting the democratic plantation call the shots and create those hysterics. It’s shameful.
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White liberals and rich blacks are keeping racism alive and well.
Some call them “white saviorsâ€.
Boy, I bet the rich blacks get pissed when they are called this.
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Boy, I bet the rich blacks get pissed when they are called this.
Your argument is with:
BOB WOODSON: You know, I really think it's white guilt. And it's really white guilt, and also it's an easy out. There are two people that I think are destroying this country, and that is guilty white people and angry, rich, entitled Blacks who continue to play the race card and then -- they don't have to live with the consequences of their advocacy. When they are talking about -- the worst thing that can happen with police right now -- it's very ironic that as police nullification occur and they don't patrol in those communities, the murder rate goes up --
And so actually, when these middle-class people who live in safe communities are villainized the police, and then -- but low-income people have to -- the murder rate goes up. That same study you quoted from Harvard, also documented the fact that the police nullification results in less police more Black-on-Black crime, more Black-on-Black deaths. Poor people are being hustled by these middle-class politicians -- as Malcolm X said, they're being bamboozled, scammed, hoodwinked, and one day that sleeping giant is going to wake up and understand who the real culprit is. And it is people who look like them who are failing to use their positions to profit the least of God's children. Instead, they're using it to benefit themselves and their own group.