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Title: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: AUTailgatingRules on January 14, 2020, 12:41:19 AM
1.   Gene Chizic

2.  Ed Orgeron

Mic drop
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: CCTAU on January 14, 2020, 01:48:29 AM
Might ad Les Miles in there too.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: The Six on January 14, 2020, 08:24:25 AM
Don't forget Larry Coker. The original fall-into-a-pile-of-talent-and-take-a-few-years-to-screw-it-up guy.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2020, 11:13:10 AM
So which is Orgeron more likely to be?  

A one-hit ChizCokMilesian wonder who lucked into a world of talent and the right assistant coaching mix to wean the most out of it?  

Or is he a dynasty builder?  

I watched the game last night and listened to Fuckstreit and Blower huff and puff on Turtle Swinney's weenus talking about how much fun he was having charging up and down the sidelines and leaping around spasmodically.  He didn't look like he was having much fun at the end.  

I wondered whether that asshat was a dynasty builder, too.  I really don't think he is.  He's recruited well.  I figure he learned from the best (cheating ass Bahr) and it's only a matter of time before that gets dragged into the light.  But the ACC is shit.  It's complete garbage.  Swap AU for Clemson?  We're in the playoffs every season and Dumbo is taking a couple of ass beatings a year.  

It's easy to build a team for a playoff run when every game of the regular season is essentially a glorified practice.  I saw the babbling heads talking about how Clemson was battle-tested and using their game against Texas A&M as some sort of measuring stick.  A&M isn't good.  I honestly felt then that if that was the comparison, LSU would wear them down and out.  

I'll admit I felt differently early when they were making Burrow look like Trottersly, but as the game went on it became pretty obvious that dining on cupcakes makes teams weak.  They just didn't have the nuts to stay with an SEC team.   Bama's cupcake schedule bit them in the ass last season in the same way. 
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 14, 2020, 11:16:56 AM
Orgeron is somewhere in the middle.  He's not a dynasty builder, but he is a solid coarch who will have LSU in the chase most every season.

I'm surprised Dabbie hasn't already been "exposed" by the REC, because he has stepped on their toes a lot over the last 3-4 seasons.  He is a motivator who can $ell hi$ program to recruit$ well.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 14, 2020, 11:31:59 AM
Orgeron is somewhere in the middle.  He's not a dynasty builder, but he is a solid coarch who will have LSU in the chase most every season.

I'm surprised Dabbie hasn't already been "exposed" by the REC, because he has stepped on their toes a lot over the last 3-4 seasons.  He is a motivator who can $ell hi$ program to recruit$ well.
This is where I'm at.  LSU will recruit big time with or without Yaw Yaw.  From the outside looking in, it appears that Yaw and Dabs have similar styles in that they seem to be good motivators and fun to play for.   
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2020, 11:38:53 AM
Orgeron is somewhere in the middle.  He's not a dynasty builder, but he is a solid coarch who will have LSU in the chase most every season.

I'm surprised Dabbie hasn't already been "exposed" by the REC, because he has stepped on their toes a lot over the last 3-4 seasons.  He is a motivator who can $ell hi$ program to recruit$ well.
You know as well as I do why they haven't gone after Dimbulb.  He's the heir apparent.  They fully expect him to follow Saban.  They can't ruin him.  

I don't want to watch LSU win a national title while we sit around with our fingers poked up our asses in Auburn. 

But it was worth it last night knowing every single Bama fan in existence lost to Orgeron again.  They were, to a man, sucking the Dibbo dingus.  
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: GH2001 on January 14, 2020, 11:47:40 AM
This is where I'm at.  LSU will recruit big time with or without Yaw Yaw.  From the outside looking in, it appears that Yaw and Dabs have similar styles in that they seem to be good motivators and fun to play for. 
LSU is gravy territory because of the dynamic in Louisiana BUT.....LSU CAN be screwed up. Curly Hallman. Gerry Dinardo. Kudos to O. I think he fits there perfectly. Thats what makes it work. 
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 14, 2020, 11:51:48 AM
Orgeron is somewhere in the middle.  He's not a dynasty builder, but he is a solid coarch who will have LSU in the chase most every season.

I'm surprised Dabbie hasn't already been "exposed" by the REC, because he has stepped on their toes a lot over the last 3-4 seasons.  He is a motivator who can $ell hi$ program to recruit$ well.
Agree.  I think he will have a pretty good run at LSU. 


If it was anyone other than Dabo I think they would have Clemson on probation already.   Not cool to go after one of your own.  Especially when you are convinced that he is going to take the job once the great and mighty Saban retires.   
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Godfather on January 14, 2020, 12:33:58 PM
So which is Orgeron more likely to be? 

A one-hit ChizCokMilesian wonder who lucked into a world of talent and the right assistant coaching mix to wean the most out of it? 

Or is he a dynasty builder? 

I watched the game last night and listened to Fuckstreit and Blower huff and puff on Turtle Swinney's weenus talking about how much fun he was having charging up and down the sidelines and leaping around spasmodically.  He didn't look like he was having much fun at the end. 

I wondered whether that asshat was a dynasty builder, too.  I really don't think he is.  He's recruited well.  I figure he learned from the best (cheating ass Bahr) and it's only a matter of time before that gets dragged into the light.  But the ACC is shit.  It's complete garbage.  Swap AU for Clemson?  We're in the playoffs every season and Dumbo is taking a couple of ass beatings a year. 

It's easy to build a team for a playoff run when every game of the regular season is essentially a glorified practice.  I saw the babbling heads talking about how Clemson was battle-tested and using their game against Texas A&M as some sort of measuring stick.  A&M isn't good.  I honestly felt then that if that was the comparison, LSU would wear them down and out. 

I'll admit I felt differently early when they were making Burrow look like Trottersly, but as the game went on it became pretty obvious that dining on cupcakes makes teams weak.  They just didn't have the nuts to stay with an SEC team.  Bama's cupcake schedule bit them in the ass last season in the same way.
You asked me last night if I thought Orgeron was Gene Chizik.  I immediately said no.  But thinking about it, he very well could be.  I still don't ultimately think he is, but it will be interesting to see how this program goes without Burrow. 

Burrow probably had the best season (perhaps on par or greater than Cam's) in one season of College Football that I have ever seen. Dude didn't have a bad game.  His worse half was the beginning of last night's game and that wasn't really his fault they were just getting to him.

You don't just reload a player like that.  So I'm curious where Orgeron takes them from here.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 14, 2020, 12:50:04 PM
You asked me last night if I thought Orgeron was Gene Chizik.  I immediately said no.  But thinking about it, he very well could be.  I still don't ultimately think he is, but it will be interesting to see how this program goes without Burrow. 

Burrow probably had the best season (perhaps on par or greater than Cam's) in one season of College Football that I have ever seen. Dude didn't have a bad game.  His worse half was the beginning of last night's game and that wasn't really his fault they were just getting to him.

You don't just reload a player like that.  So I'm curious where Orgeron takes them from here.
Yeppers.  Finding someone that accurate who sees the field like Burrow will be just about impossible.  However, another top 5 recruiting class this year should put them on par talent-wise with just about anyone.  Yaw just needs to step out of the way and let his coaches do they thing.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: CCTAU on January 14, 2020, 01:05:25 PM
 Yaw just needs to step out of the way and let his coaches do they thing.
And this is why AU will never get there with Gus.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Godfather on January 14, 2020, 01:40:29 PM
And this is why AU will never get there with Gus.
Are you kidding In the field of head coaching, Gus is a god!
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 14, 2020, 02:11:40 PM
 So I'm curious where Orgeron takes them from here.
I think he will be pretty damn good.  My reasoning?  O was smart enough to see that his shit wasn't working.  He was smart enough to go out and hire Brady to coach and groom Burrow.  I think he learned enough at Ole Miss and USC to do exactly what he did this season.  Hire good coaches and let them coach.  Now replacing Burrow will be almost impossible.  He is that lighting in a bottle so to speak, but if he keeps recruiting at  high level, he should be kicking ass year in and year out. 


Than again, he very well  may go the way of the Chiz.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 14, 2020, 02:37:39 PM
I think he will be pretty damn good.  My reasoning?  O was smart enough to see that his shit wasn't working.  He was smart enough to go out and hire Brady to coach and groom Burrow.  I think he learned enough at Ole Miss and USC to do exactly what he did this season.  Hire good coaches and let them coach.  Now replacing Burrow will be almost impossible.  He is that lighting in a bottle so to speak, but if he keeps recruiting at  high level, he should be kicking ass year in and year out.


Than again, he very well  may go the way of the Chiz.
So you're saying he will, unless he doesn't.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Godfather on January 14, 2020, 03:10:48 PM
I think he will be pretty damn good.  My reasoning?  O was smart enough to see that his shit wasn't working.  He was smart enough to go out and hire Brady to coach and groom Burrow.  I think he learned enough at Ole Miss and USC to do exactly what he did this season.  Hire good coaches and let them coach.  Now replacing Burrow will be almost impossible.  He is that lighting in a bottle so to speak, but if he keeps recruiting at  high level, he should be kicking ass year in and year out.


Than again, he very well  may go the way of the Chiz.
So you are saying he has the cattle and the hat?

I agree.
Smart folks learn from their mistakes...others just try to keep doing it over and over, convinced their way will work.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 14, 2020, 03:13:08 PM
So you are saying he has the cattle and the hat?

I agree.
Smart folks learn from their mistakes...others just try to keep doing it over and over, convinced their way will work.
That sounds very familiar.  Like it's describing somebody we know.  I can't quite put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: GH2001 on January 14, 2020, 03:17:12 PM
That sounds very familiar.  Like it's describing somebody we know.  I can't quite put my finger on it.
Welllll yeahhhh. We’re gonna look at the film some more. The guys are working hard. Practice has went well. Lot of good effort this week. We will find out more about our team this Saturday. The future look bright for sure. 
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Godfather on January 14, 2020, 03:26:09 PM
Welllll yeahhhh. We’re gonna look at the film some more. The guys are working hard. Practice has went well. Lot of good effort this week. We will find out more about our team this Saturday. The future look bright for sure.
We are still work in progress
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2020, 03:38:38 PM
So you're saying he will, unless he doesn't.
That damn Prowler.  At it again. 
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: AUJarhead on January 14, 2020, 03:38:55 PM
That sounds very familiar.  Like it's describing somebody we know.  I can't quite put my finger on it.
Colonel Angus?
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2020, 03:40:27 PM
I can't quite put my finger on it.
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Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 14, 2020, 04:03:58 PM
That damn Prowler.  At it again.
Speaking of.....

Where is the King of the Pimp Cup?
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Kaos on January 14, 2020, 04:07:45 PM
Speaking of.....

Where is the King of the Pimp Cup?
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Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Godfather on January 14, 2020, 04:27:59 PM
Colonel Angus?
Hmm.. I don’t know why people make such a big fuss over Colonel Angus!
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 14, 2020, 04:33:47 PM
Hmm.. I don’t know why people make such a big fuss over Colonel Angus!
You can only take so much of Colonel Angus.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 14, 2020, 06:02:53 PM
That damn Prowler.  At it again.
DAMN!  That hurts!  What the fuck did I ever do to you?
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 14, 2020, 06:03:58 PM
So you're saying he will, unless he doesn't.
Duh!!
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 14, 2020, 06:05:30 PM
Welllll yeahhhh. We’re gonna look at the film some more. The guys are working hard. Practice has went well. Lot of good effort this week. We will find out more about our team this Saturday. The future look bright for sure.
I know we had a thread about Gus saying this every year.  I haven't cared enough to read any of his pressers.  Did he tell us fans again this year that we are in good shape and the future is bright?
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Godfather on January 15, 2020, 08:18:18 AM
I know we had a thread about Gus saying this every year.  I haven't cared enough to read any of his pressers.  Did he tell us fans again this year that we are in good shape and the future is bright?
sort of it was more of a "just you wait Bo Nix is going to win a championship at Auburn".  He just didn't say whether he would still be the coach or not.
Title: Re: Most Unlikely National Championship Coaches
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 15, 2020, 09:24:54 AM
You can only take so much of Colonel Angus.
That 'ol carpetbagger!