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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Godfather on December 09, 2019, 12:14:14 PM
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Chad Morris OC?
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Hey post less read more...we have a thread.
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Chad Morris OC?
Does it really matter who the OC is other than being a fall guy?
But to your point, that sounds about right. I would say more than a 75% chance. I would like to see others get a shot but we all know Gus runs the offense.
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Never heard of him.
Also? Our friends at al.com listed a bag of dirty dicks as potential replacements.
Chad Morris? Kiss my ass. No.
Kodi? Bless him. No.
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Never heard of him.
Also? Our friends at al.com listed a bag of dirty dicks as potential replacements.
Chad Morris? Kiss my ass. No.
Kodi? Bless him. No.
I get what you are saying. But real question - would Morris be any worse? even slight improvement? Over spastic Gus/Kenny/Chip. And this is coming from someone who isn't a big fan of Morris.
And Kodi? F no.
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I get what you are saying. But real question - would Morris be any worse? even slight improvement? Over spastic Gus/Kenny/Chip. And this is coming from someone who isn't a big fan of Morris.
And Kodi? F no.
Word already out everywhere that Morris has been hired.
I think it's a colossal screwup. It's the final Gus nail in my opinion. We need innovation. We need NFL-level passing schemes. We don't need some fucking failed Gus sycophant. He's got enough ass kissers around there.
Tired of this shit.
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Tired of this shit.
THIS X 100000
Morris can produce any offense whatsoever at Arkansas, so the only logical thing to do is hire him at Auburn as the OC? Sounds about right.
But again, what does it matter. Gus runs the offense.
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Word already out everywhere that Morris has been hired.
I think it's a colossal screwup. It's the final Gus nail in my opinion. We need innovation. We need NFL-level passing schemes. We don't need some fucking failed Gus sycophant. He's got enough ass kissers around there.
Tired of this shit.
I remember him beating us with less talent and a more innovative version of OUR offense.
So I am OK with it.
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I remember him beating us with less talent and a more innovative version of OUR offense.
So I am OK with it.
I usually agree with you on things. On this we aren't in the same yard. I can't even see your yard from where I am.
Chad Morris will be the final nail hammered into Gus' Auburn coffin. It shows no inclination to reach outside his own insular "ah, done wroted a book" mentality. It is yet another example of his maddening over-inflated ego. It's not going to get us any closer to LSU. It's not going to get us any closer to (F)UGA or Florida. Just more of the same "what the FUCK did I just see?" seasons. No quarterback development. No improvement in the routes.
Did you happen to see Arkansas' quarterbacks this season? I watched (accidentally) three or four of their games. They were the absolute worst. Unprepared. Poorly trained. Miserable fundamentals. Every single one of them was worse than Clint Moseley on his worst turtle day. That was the biggest clusterfuck of an offense I've ever seen -- and you know we've seen our fucking share over the last decade.
I am vehemently opposed to this hire. Even considering it puts me right back in the kick Gus the fuck out of here line.
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I usually agree with you on things. On this we aren't in the same yard. I can't even see your yard from where I am.
Chad Morris will be the final nail hammered into Gus' Auburn coffin. It shows no inclination to reach outside his own insular "ah, done wroted a book" mentality. It is yet another example of his maddening over-inflated ego. It's not going to get us any closer to LSU. It's not going to get us any closer to (F)UGA or Florida. Just more of the same "what the FUCK did I just see?" seasons. No quarterback development. No improvement in the routes.
Did you happen to see Arkansas' quarterbacks this season? I watched (accidentally) three or four of their games. They were the absolute worst. Unprepared. Poorly trained. Miserable fundamentals. Every single one of them was worse than Clint Moseley on his worst turtle day. That was the biggest clusterfuck of an offense I've ever seen -- and you know we've seen our fucking share over the last decade.
I am vehemently opposed to this hire. Even considering it puts me right back in the kick Gus the fuck out of here line.
I'll play devils advocate a little here since I think the pendulum is somewhere in the middle here on Chad. Again, Im not the biggest fan - mainly because of the sycophant reasons more than anything but I digress.
Here goes:
- We all know being a HC and OC are very different. Just look at Gustav ala 2010 and 2018. Morris did very well at Clemson as an OC whether you or I like it or not. He developed Tahj Boyd tremendously. And Ellington. And Hopkins. Dabo went 15-12 his first two seasons in Clemson. The next 5 seasons with Morris? 10-11-11-10-14 wins. Top 10 offenses.
- Has Clemson been as good since he left? Yes. And they still run his offense per Dabo. They also have a buttload more talent this year and the last 3 years than they did between 2009-2014. Most would argue Watson and Lawrence are both generational talents. Moreso than Boyd was. Morris also recruited, landed and developed Watson his first year.
- I didnt realize SMU had gotten progressively better each year. 2-5-7 wins. They are now playing this year in the top 25 with the 4 classes he put together. 3 of them he coached/developed. I erroneously stated last week Morris left everyplace worse than he found it. He also made Clemson exponentially better than he found it.
- Arkansas - Im not sure what to say here. Was this Morris? Or was this more how bad Arkansas is holistically, pre-Morris, Ath Dept, Bert, etc? Bert also was lights out at Wisky and came to Fayetteville and laid a dud. Most considered him a solid coach, and he still may be. Weve said it over and over that trying to win at MSU, OM and ARK is near damn impossible consistently. Morris was attempting to do the near impossible there - take caveman fb players from Bert and convert them all to a spread offense - IN THE SEC WEST. In 2 years. Not sure why anyone thought that would work. Despite all that, he didnt recruit horribly. Per Rivals.
- Texas inroads. Morris has a lot of recruiting inroads, esp in Texas. He recruited a lot of players to Clemson because of this. The same ones we saw Dabo win with after Morris was gone. Also per Rivals.
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I usually agree with you on things. On this we aren't in the same yard. I can't even see your yard from where I am.
Chad Morris will be the final nail hammered into Gus' Auburn coffin. It shows no inclination to reach outside his own insular "ah, done wroted a book" mentality. It is yet another example of his maddening over-inflated ego.
What in the blue hell tarnation had you thinking he was going to do anything differently?
At least with Morris, he's been there and was successful at it. It may be our best chance. Not to mention only.
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I remember him beating us with less talent and a more innovative version of OUR offense.
So I am OK with it.
Agree with you and GH. Dabo copied everything we did and improved on it.
Maybe some of Chad's football learning will rub off on rigid Gus. They can kick around the old days, talk about the twirlybird and shit. Doubt he has much input but what's the harm? We still get to keep Kodi as our passing game coordinator until somebody steals him from us.
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His locker room management, QB development and overall attitude were all fucking awful at Arky.
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His locker room management, QB development and overall attitude were all fucking awful at Arky.
Who's idea was it to hire this slouchy bastard?
We ain't runnin' no charity.
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I get the connection between Morris and Malzahn, but him coming here as OC makes no sense. Dilly Dilly was the OC in name only and as has been said, Gus called all the plays. We all know he always has whether he admitted it or not. If you've been an OC calling plays and a head corch in the SEC, why would you come to Auburn just to roam the sidelines? I guess picking up a fat check for minimal work could be inviting.
BTW, Dilly will be doing the same for the Noles. Norvell will be calling the plays.
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Well, with all that I've been reading, its pretty much gonna be Chad Morris as the new OC.
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I get the connection between Morris and Malzahn, but him coming here as OC makes no sense. Dilly Dilly was the OC in name only and as has been said, Gus called all the plays. We all know he always has whether he admitted it or not. If you've been an OC calling plays and a head corch in the SEC, why would you come to Auburn just to roam the sidelines? I guess picking up a fat check for minimal work could be inviting.
BTW, Dilly will be doing the same for the Noles. Norvell will be calling the plays.
Good point. So I’m starting to wonder why Morris? Is he the one damn person on earth gus halfway trusts? Who knows. Chad I don’t is gonna go anywhere where he’s a stool pigeon to someone. So it’s interesting to say the least. If he’s be Chad Morris from Clemson and Gus let’s him be that chad Morris? It could work out very well. Much like IF snags had nuts. Big IFs
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His locker room management, QB development and overall attitude were all fucking awful at Arky.
So was berts and several other coaches. I’m starting to question Arkansas a little.
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Good point. So I’m starting to wonder why Morris? Is he the one damn person on earth gus halfway trusts? Who knows. Chad I don’t is gonna go anywhere where he’s a stool pigeon to someone. So it’s interesting to say the least. If he’s be Chad Morris from Clemson and Gus let’s him be that chad Morris? It could work out very well. Much like IF snags had nuts. Big IFs
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I get the connection between Morris and Malzahn, but him coming here as OC makes no sense. Dilly Dilly was the OC in name only and as has been said, Gus called all the plays. We all know he always has whether he admitted it or not. If you've been an OC calling plays and a head corch in the SEC, why would you come to Auburn just to roam the sidelines? I guess picking up a fat check for minimal work could be inviting.
BTW, Dilly will be doing the same for the Noles. Norvell will be calling the plays.
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Shut up, YOU!
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Be interesting if Sark left Tuscaloosa.
Saban can't be happy with that defensive staff.
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So was berts and several other coaches. I’m starting to question Arkansas a little.
Bert was exposed once he left Daddy Barry's tutelage.
Who else? John L? He wasn't really supposed to be the coach...blame that on Bobby P.
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Bert was exposed once he left Daddy Barry's tutelage.
Who else? John L? He wasn't really supposed to be the coach...blame that on Bobby P.
Even with their successes - Motorbike Bobby and Houston Dale Nutt had some turbulence there and issues with admin. But yes John L was horrible.
I don't get why Bert failed. All he wanted was REAL MURICAN FOOTBALL!
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With all this discussion bout Arkansas, it makes me a little more appreciative about what we have with Auburn.
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Even with their successes - Motorbike Bobby and Houston Dale Nutt had some turbulence there and issues with admin. But yes John L was horrible.
I don't get why Bert failed. All he wanted was REAL MURICAN FOOTBALL!
Think about this for a minute.
Chad Morris sucked so thoroughly that Arkansas fans are EXCITED about "getting back to Berty Ball"
I don't want him. Which means Waffle Fuck will almost certainly hire him. Boys, we can compete with the absolute best in the land with Chad, Kodi (bless him), JB, Larry and Carnell running things. If there's a better staff in the land, region, state, county, city, campus I don't know about it. How in the world can we keep other schools from poaching that crew for open head coaching spots?
Oh, meanwhile Ole Miss' former head coach takes the spot vacated at Georgia by Arkansas' new head-scratching disaster HC hire.
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I get the connection between Morris and Malzahn, but him coming here as OC makes no sense. Dilly Dilly was the OC in name only and as has been said, Gus called all the plays. We all know he always has whether he admitted it or not. If you've been an OC calling plays and a head corch in the SEC, why would you come to Auburn just to roam the sidelines? I guess picking up a fat check for minimal work could be inviting.
BTW, Dilly will be doing the same for the Noles. Norvell will be calling the plays.
You do realize there is more to an OC than just calling plays?
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Meh, Kevin Steele sucked ass as a HC. He was a former DC at Clemson as well. That worked out pretty damn good. The same should happen by hiring Morris, but it won't...….because Gus.
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Meh, Kevin Steele sucked ass as a HC. He was a former DC at Clemson as well. That worked out pretty damn good. The same should happen by hiring Morris, but it won't...….because Gus.
yep
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https://auburntigers.com/news/2019/12/10/football-chad-morris-named-offensive-coordinator-at-auburn.aspx
As a potential bonus: With Auburn hiring Morris, it would likely be able to sign his son, four-star quarterback Chandler Morris, a former Arkansas commit who took a visit to campus for the Iron Bowl, to bolster depth in the quarterback room.
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You do realize there is more to an OC than just calling plays?
Carrying the headset wiring on the sidelines?
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Carrying the headset wiring on the sidelines?
And the play cards, don't forget about the play cards.
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Carrying the headset wiring on the sidelines?
And those cool signs with Shrek and Ice-T on them.
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https://auburntigers.com/news/2019/12/10/football-chad-morris-named-offensive-coordinator-at-auburn.aspx
As a potential bonus: With Auburn hiring Morris, it would likely be able to sign his son, four-star quarterback Chandler Morris, a former Arkansas commit who took a visit to campus for the Iron Bowl, to bolster depth in the quarterback room.
This alone might be worth it since our QB depth chart next year is Bo Nix, Cord Sandberg and.....and....
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And those cool signs with Shrek and Ice-T on them.
Too late sucka
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https://auburntigers.com/news/2019/12/10/football-chad-morris-named-offensive-coordinator-at-auburn.aspx
As a potential bonus: With Auburn hiring Morris, it would likely be able to sign his son, four-star quarterback Chandler Morris, a former Arkansas commit who took a visit to campus for the Iron Bowl, to bolster depth in the quarterback room.
I don't dislike the Morris kid, but Chad spent every Friday of the last two seasons flying back to TX to watch his kid play. He never moved his family to Fayetteville. He never seemed invested in the job. That caused a problem in their locker room.
Why are we expecting different treatment? This seems like a favor to Gus's boy that adds nothing to our staff's skill-set while creating cost and controversy.
Do. Not. Want.
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At LSU Brady brought passing "concepts" employed by the Saints combined with Morehead's rpos. What improvements does Morris bring Auburn?
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https://auburntigers.com/news/2019/12/10/football-chad-morris-named-offensive-coordinator-at-auburn.aspx
As a potential bonus: With Auburn hiring Morris, it would likely be able to sign his son, four-star quarterback Chandler Morris, a former Arkansas commit who took a visit to campus for the Iron Bowl, to bolster depth in the quarterback room.
Steve Ensminger’s son was a big shot prospect. We needed to hire him as OC too.
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Steve Ensminger’s son was a big shot prospect. We needed to hire him as OC too.
The Corndogs love them some Ensminger but Brady is their GOAT.
With Burrow leaving they get Myles Brennan who is similar to Alabama QB Mac Jones.
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I don't dislike the Morris kid, but Chad spent every Friday of the last two seasons flying back to TX to watch his kid play. He never moved his family to Fayetteville. He never seemed invested in the job. That caused a problem in their locker room.
Why are we expecting different treatment? This seems like a favor to Gus's boy that adds nothing to our staff's skill-set while creating cost and controversy.
Do. Not. Want.
This. Mutual admiration hire. It’s like Snags hiring Buzzy minus the butt sex.
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So I learn this is a done fucking deal as of today.
Hired.
I give up. Gus operates at a level of dumbass I cannot comprehend.
Revisit this in a year. You’ll see Kaos was 100% right.
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So I learn this is a done fucking deal as of today.
Hired.
I give up. Gus operates at a level of dumbass I cannot comprehend.
Revisit this in a year. You’ll see Kaos was 100% right.
It won’t be because Morris sucks. It will be because of the same ole Gus. I’d rather take this chance with somebody who HAS a clue rather than another yes boy.
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somebody who HAS a clue rather than another yes boy.
This is the key part. I will be good to go with the hire IF Morris is not just another yes boy.
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It didnt matter if we hired Bill Bellychick as OC. Its Gus' offense. Always has been and always will be. Lets just get some great athletes to run it. BTW, we desperately need a QB in this class. We have 2 on scholly. Thats it.
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It didnt matter if we hired Bill Bellychick as OC. Its Gus' offense. Always has been and always will be. Lets just get some great athletes to run it. BTW, we desperately need a QB in this class. We have 2 on scholly. Thats it.
Only one commit in this class so far.
3* dual QB C. Garnett Lakeland, FL
We have a verbal from a pro style kid in the 2121class.
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I don't dislike the Morris kid, but Chad spent every Friday of the last two seasons flying back to TX to watch his kid play. He never moved his family to Fayetteville. He never seemed invested in the job. That caused a problem in their locker room.
Why are we expecting different treatment? This seems like a favor to Gus's boy that adds nothing to our staff's skill-set while creating cost and controversy.
Do. Not. Want.
His kid is graduating the coming year right? So no need to fly back.
And too late. You done got.
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His kid is graduating the coming year right? So no need to fly back.
Did we not already establish the "no daddy coaches" rule? This isn't fucking high school.
I loathe this hire.
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Did we not already establish the "no daddy coaches" rule? This isn't fucking high school.
I loathe this hire.
You loathe every hire.
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You loathe every hire.
We loathe all offensive hires.
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You loathe every hire.
No. Bruce Pearl? I was on board with that.
The hires Gus makes, though? He hires his friends (Herb, JB, Chad, Loff) or he hires people who owe (or will owe) him (Kodi, Carnell).
He’s the Michael Scott of college coaches. Forget a staff, let’s get our buddies in here. Where’s that Todd Packer?
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No. Bruce Pearl? I was on board with that.
The hires Gus makes, though? He hires his friends (Herb, JB, Chad, Loff) or he hires people who owe (or will owe) him (Kodi, Carnell).
He’s the Michael Scott of college coaches. Forget a staff, let’s get our buddies in here. Where’s that Todd Packer?
I get where you're coming from and there's no doubt that his hires have been less than chub inducing moves. I think the jury is still out on Carnell while they came back with a verdict on Kodi a long time ago. The first question is why did he let a RB coach go who had about fifty 1,000 yard rushers in a row under his guidance? Haven't had one sniff since.
As for the OC, I say again, it really doesn't matter who he hires. It's Gus' show from start to finish. The only thing I'm hoping for is (And I have zero idea if this would be the case) that he would allow Morris to re-tool, re-work, change the passing schemes. It continues to be a common theme that Gus' passing schemes are pretty basic and predictable. Again, just me speculating here, but I think Gus believes that as long as he has the running game clicking, just about any passing scheme will work since the D has to start compensating to stop the run.
Let me get out of my armchair QB La-Z-Boy.
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Maybe this is the one guy who Gus will consult with and the one who might keep Gus in check. I refuse to think this is a turd hire. Arkansas didn't go well but I think that's more the place than Morris. Auburn got better here. Dilly didn't add anything to the offense. Hope he learned something as the fans in Tallahassee will have knives out if they continue to falter.
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Maybe this is the one guy who Gus will consult with and the one who might keep Gus in check. I refuse to think this is a turd hire. Arkansas didn't go well but I think that's more the place than Morris. Auburn got better here. Dilly didn't add anything to the offense. Hope he learned something as the fans in Tallahassee will have knives out if they continue to falter.
It will be the same role in the Hassee. Norvell is calling plays and running his show.
As for Arky, I only know what I saw on the TV's on Saturday. It appears Wes has kept tabs on the state of that program and knows a lot more about how Morris ran things. I have to say however, when your starting linebacker is named Bumper Pool, you're already behind the 8 ball.
Pretty sure I'm the first to come up with that.
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As for the OC, I say again, it really doesn't matter who he hires. It's Gus' show from start to finish. The only thing I'm hoping for is (And I have zero idea if this would be the case) that he would allow Morris to re-tool, re-work, change the passing schemes.
THIS and to add developing the QBs please.
Maybe this is the one guy who Gus will consult with and the one who might keep Gus in check.
and THIS.
The hire is made, so we deal with it now. It is my hopes the above mentioned is what transpires. I am pretty sure we all agree with that.
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Maybe, since he runs a "better" version of Gus's offense, Gus will let him do it like he wants. Honestly that's all we can hope for at this point.
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THIS and to add developing the QBs please.
and THIS.
Did you happen to see QB play at Arkansas? It was a bigger shitshow than when the one-legged blind kid tried to run the veer in pee wee ball.
It’s going to get worse
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Did you happen to see QB play at Arkansas? It was a bigger shitshow than when the one-legged blind kid tried to run the veer in pee wee ball.
It’s going to get worse
Hard to make chick salad out of chick shit.
We got eagle shit here. We’ll be just fine.
And truthfully, why are you bitching? If it sucks, they’ll both be gone!
We have everything to win. Nothing to lose!
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Did you happen to see QB play at Arkansas? It was a bigger shitshow than when the one-legged blind kid tried to run the veer in pee wee ball.
It’s going to get worse
It's worse than you probably even realize:
Chad brought his 3 year starter, Ben Hicks, from SMU as a transfer.
Then former A&M hotshot, Nick Starkel transferred in.
Arky had two kids battling for the spot under Bert: Ty Storey and Cole Kelley.
Chad ran off Storey and Kelley (Storey came back to F'ville as the starter for WKy and kicked that ass, btw).
Then began a horrible rotation of Starkel and Hicks...then later in the season started, at various times, three other QBs.
Total fucking shitshow clusterfuck.
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Did you happen to see QB play at Arkansas? It was a bigger shitshow than when the one-legged blind kid tried to run the veer in pee wee ball.
It’s going to get worse
Yes, and no it wasn't good. The only thing I can add is the fact the QB doesn't/didn't have a good supporting cast around him, especially in 2019. I am trying to see the positives here. There is no other choice but to do so, for me anyway. Like CC said, if they fail, they both will be gone.
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I'm looking at the calendar people. Do I have time to watch 25-year plans play out?
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I'm looking at the calendar people. Do I have time to watch 25-year plans play out?
Read The Creed and embrace the suck
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It won’t be because Morris sucks. It will be because of the same ole Gus. I’d rather take this chance with somebody who HAS a clue rather than another yes boy.
That ^^
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That ^^
It's like this and like that and like this...so just chill til the next episode.
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That ^^
Is wrong.
No real indication that Morris "has a clue."
He's Gus' buddy. Gus was distraught when he was fired. Gus has one more pal to play cards with, to take to Waffle House, to ride around in his BMW with. One more buddy-boo who won't tell him the truth. That's the beginning and end of this story.
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Is wrong.
No real indication that Morris "has a clue."
He's Gus' buddy. Gus was distraught when he was fired. Gus has one more pal to play cards with, to take to Waffle House, to ride around in his BMW with. One more buddy-boo who won't tell him the truth. That's the beginning and end of this story.
Don't forget that Kristi will gain a shopping pal in Paula.
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Don't forget that Kristi will gain a shopping pal in Paula.
That's only if Chad moves the family to Auburn. He left them in Dallas when he took the Arky job.
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That ^^
Agree as well. Steele sucked just as much if not even more ass as a HC and he is still a damn fine DC. Morris has proved his mettle as an OC. His head coaching stint, not so much. Hell, even Chizik went to UNC and improved their D after he got canned at AU. Horrible HC but good DC. I think Morris is a fine OC but doesn't have what it takes to be a HC.
None of the really matters though.....because Gus. Gus will fuck this up too. Why.....because Gus is gonna Gus.
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Agree as well. Steele sucked just as much if not even more ass as a HC and he is still a damn fine DC. Morris has proved his mettle as an OC. His head coaching stint, not so much. Hell, even Chizik went to UNC and improved their D after he got canned at AU. Horrible HC but good DC. I think Morris is a fine OC but doesn't have what it takes to be a HC.
None of the really matters though.....because Gus. Gus will fuck this up too. Why.....because Gus is gonna Gus.
Herbstreit among many others can't understand our "Nobody knows what it's like..." attitude with Gus Malzahn.
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Speaking of Steele...haven't heard any mention of Venables for any openings.
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Morris already doing work!
Offered John Franklin VI... errr. Ralph Sampson... errr.. James...errr Greg Spann... some kid from Florida who had no other offers, completed about 45% of his passes in high school. Offered him on his first visit to see the guy, offered him before the kid has visited Auburn.
I'm sorry, but this experiment is going to end badly. But I'm tired of hammering that drum now.
Just remember I told you.
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Is wrong.
No real indication that Morris "has a clue."
He's Gus' buddy. Gus was distraught when he was fired. Gus has one more pal to play cards with, to take to Waffle House, to ride around in his BMW with. One more buddy-boo who won't tell him the truth. That's the beginning and end of this story.
You and wes should take a trip to Fayetteville and fuck this out.
You two are singlehandedly making non-fans of Morris, defend him.
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Agree as well. Steele sucked just as much if not even more ass as a HC and he is still a damn fine DC. Morris has proved his mettle as an OC. His head coaching stint, not so much. Hell, even Chizik went to UNC and improved their D after he got canned at AU. Horrible HC but good DC. I think Morris is a fine OC but doesn't have what it takes to be a HC.
None of the really matters though.....because Gus. Gus will fuck this up too. Why.....because Gus is gonna Gus.
Nah. We’re wrong. Wes has all this crazy inside foosball knowledge from Arkansas that only jerry Jones has access to. Apparently. Friend of the program. Who knew.
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IMO Gus is only helping a pal out, keeping his name relevant for another gig in the future. He might stay two seasons but he already experienced success as both a coordinator and a head coach...just not so much at Arky.
He doesn't get to do either one with Gus.
The only thing he can do is bide his time.
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IMO Gus is only helping a pal out, keeping his name relevant for another gig in the future. He might stay two seasons but he already experienced success as both a coordinator and a head coach...just not so much at Arky.
He doesn't get to do either one with Gus.
The only thing he can do is bide his time.
I think this is the likely explanation. So why spend our university's money to rehab a shit bag?
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And now there's this:
https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2019/12/gus-malzahn-chad-morris-will-have-a-lot-of-influence-on-play-calls-in-2020.html
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You and wes should take a trip to Fayetteville and fuck this out.
You two are singlehandedly making non-fans of Morris, defend him.
That's the only way we get anywhere. Push people to think.
I'm pretty much of the mind that it doesn't matter. We're watching Gus diddle dick around with some of the greatest talent ever at Auburn. That's not going to change because we're okay knocking off Bama a few times and falling behind Georgia and LSU.
Not gonna keep me quiet.
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I think this is the likely explanation. So why spend our university's money to rehab a shoot bag?
Trying to be Saban now?
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Trying to be Saban now?
We seem divided on the addition of Morris.
There's only one way to win us all over.
He has to flip one of Bama's hard commits.
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That's only if Chad moves the family to Auburn. He left them in Dallas when he took the Arky job.
hmmm that's odd.
https://talkbusiness.net/2019/11/chad-morris-fayetteville-estate-hits-the-market-for-3-79-million/ (https://talkbusiness.net/2019/11/chad-morris-fayetteville-estate-hits-the-market-for-3-79-million/)
Y (https://talkbusiness.net/2019/11/chad-morris-fayetteville-estate-hits-the-market-for-3-79-million/)ou should prolly stop listening to everything woopig says....
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We seem divided on the addition of Morris.
There's only one way to win us all over.
He has to flip one of Bama's hard commits.
Brilliant!
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hmmm that's odd.
https://talkbusiness.net/2019/11/chad-morris-fayetteville-estate-hits-the-market-for-3-79-million/ (https://talkbusiness.net/2019/11/chad-morris-fayetteville-estate-hits-the-market-for-3-79-million/)
Y (https://talkbusiness.net/2019/11/chad-morris-fayetteville-estate-hits-the-market-for-3-79-million/)ou should prolly stop listening to everything woopig says....
Look, the man needed his own space.
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hmmm that's odd.
https://talkbusiness.net/2019/11/chad-morris-fayetteville-estate-hits-the-market-for-3-79-million/ (https://talkbusiness.net/2019/11/chad-morris-fayetteville-estate-hits-the-market-for-3-79-million/)
Y (https://talkbusiness.net/2019/11/chad-morris-fayetteville-estate-hits-the-market-for-3-79-million/)ou should prolly stop listening to everything woopig says....
He bought a house. His family never moved to Fayetteville. He went back to Dallas every Friday for his kid's football games.
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He bought a house. His family never moved to Fayetteville. He went back to Dallas every Friday for his kid's football games.
At least he had a house, and a very nice one at that.
Speaking of real estate:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Lane_Kiffin/status/1205190059198169088?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Throwing shade on State's field house.
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Morris busy at work:
https://auburn.n.rivals.com/news/morris-offers-dual-threat-qb
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Morris busy at work:
https://auburn.n.rivals.com/news/morris-offers-dual-threat-qb
That’s the guy Kaos freaked over. At 6’4†the kid could play WR if needed.
He might be a project at QB.
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That’s the guy Kaos freaked over. At 6’4†the kid could play WR if needed.
He might be a project at QB.
See Ryan Tanneyhill
(fmly TAMU) among others as far as projects or wide receivers turned QBs turned wide receivers back to QB.
This kid only played QB his senior year.
Big arm and growing into Gatewood measurements. How much of his lack of percentage is on him, his receivers AND or coaching (see us) is debatable.
But he has some other bigs chasing his signature.
***8.5 per carry
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Big arm and growing into Gatewood measurements. How much of his lack of percentage is on him or his receivers AND or coaching (see us) is debatable.
But he has some other bigs chasing his signature.
***8.5 per carry
I know he can’t throw in the rain!
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I know he can’t throw in the rain!
Kodi will gets him scraight.
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That’s the guy Kaos freaked over. At 6’4†the kid could play WR if needed.
He might be a project at QB.
When you stroll into town and offer guy with questionable ratings, below average stats and no other offers? When you've never seen the guy play, he's never been invited to be on campus, never made a visit of any kind?
That's like Lashlee seeing JF3 for a half and splooging an offer in his lap.
Congrats on making a visit, but this sounds like marrying the first girl who gave you a handjob.
Of course, I'm probably wrong.
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When you stroll into town and offer guy with questionable ratings, below average stats and no other offers? When you've never seen the guy play, he's never been invited to be on campus, never made a visit of any kind?
That's like Lashlee seeing JF3 for a half and splooging an offer in his lap.
Congrats on making a visit, but this sounds like marrying the first girl who gave you a handjob.
Of course, I'm probably wrong.
She was older than me and it felt right at the time.
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She was older than me and it felt right at the time.
Did she take the dog she she left you for a younger guy?
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Did she take the dog she she left you for a younger guy?
No her dog hated my shoes, boots and and basically anything that I wore so parting with that sneaky little bastard was a godsend.
The divorce seemed to last longer than our marriage.
Scarred for life in Gardendale.
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No her dog hated my shoes, boots and and basically anything that I wore so parting with that sneaky little bastard was a godsend.
The divorce seemed to last longer than our marriage.
Scarred for life in Gardendale.
I had one of those. Lasted 364 days. Divorce lasted longer!
SOmebody asked me what went wrong. I told them I was Southern Baptist
And she was satan!
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He bought a house. His family never moved to Fayetteville. He went back to Dallas every Friday for his kid's football games.
Ever had kids Wes? Ever had kids deeply rooted in school with friends, sports etc and then try and uproot all that? And potential turn a lot of worlds upside down? I have. It’s not fun. So much that I decided against it during a job change. You make it sound so easy to do. You’ve got it all figured out from afar. But it just isn’t that simple to do. I like most of your non political takes dude but with this one I’m just not on board with you. I think you’re really grasping at something here with the Dallas/Fayetteville thing.
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Ever had kids Wes? Ever had kids deeply rooted in school with friends, sports etc and then try and uproot all that? And potential turn a lot of worlds upside down? I have. It’s not fun. So much that I decided against it during a job change. You make it sound so easy to do. You’ve got it all figured out from afar. But it just isn’t that simple to do. I like most of your non political takes dude but with this one I’m just not on board with you. I think you’re really grasping at something here with the Dallas/Fayetteville thing.
If I'm paying a guy $3.5MM, he better show some commitment to the job.
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If I'm paying a guy $3.5MM, he better show some commitment to the job.
Where do I sign?
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If I'm paying a guy $3.5MM, he better show some commitment to the job.
To hell with his kids and wife. Just uproot them at every whim.
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To hell with his kids and wife. Just uproot them at every whim.
Pretty much. You want to be a member of the highest echelon of your profession? Suck it up and sacrifice. Pretty much every member of that coaching fraternity has done the same for far less prestigious positions.
Getting to make the jump from SMU to SEC isn't quite the same as GH turning down an extra $50K/year to keep his kids comfortable.
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Pretty much. You want to be a member of the highest echelon of your profession? Suck it up and sacrifice. Pretty much every member of that coaching fraternity has done the same for far less prestigious positions.
Getting to make the jump from SMU to SEC isn't quite the same as GH turning down an extra $50K/year to keep his kids comfortable.
It’s as if you have no clue how the real world works...
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Pretty much. You want to be a member of the highest echelon of your profession? Suck it up and sacrifice. Pretty much every member of that coaching fraternity has done the same for far less prestigious positions.
Getting to make the jump from SMU to SEC isn't quite the same as GH turning down an extra $50K/year to keep his kids comfortable.
Some things have no price. And for the record, if you look hard enough you’ll see Morris had almost zero buyin from Arkansas brass day 1. Yeah, he was a little hesitant. Would you not be at Arkansas under those circumstances?
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It’s as if you have no clue how the real world works...
The mega-salary world of P5 football isn't analogous to the "real world."
If he's winning at a Saban/Dabo clip...or, hell, even a Jimbo level...this probably isn't an issue. But the optics are horrible when you lose as spectacularly (and to schools who have no business beating an SEC team) as he did. The appearance should have been that he was camped out in the athletic complex working on a plan to right the ship. Instead he dicked off to Dallas every Friday.
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The mega-salary world of P5 football isn't analogous to the "real world."
If he's winning at a Saban/Dabo clip...or, hell, even a Jimbo level...this probably isn't an issue. But the optics are horrible when you lose as spectacularly (and to schools who have no business beating an SEC team) as he did. The appearance should have been that he was camped out in the athletic complex working on a plan to right the ship. Instead he dicked off to Dallas every Friday.
Wes, I by no means am excited about the Morris hire. I will say that the time Morris had as OC and also HC at SMU, he was successful. Maybe the big lights of the SEC was too big for him as a HC. Perhaps there too many other issues at Ark to overcome on top of trying to rebuild. Maybe his failures were a combo of both. All this has already been mentioned. Also mentioned, is that Gus will run HIS offense regardless of who is the OC. Yes Gus hired an old buddy that sucked at his previous employment. It is what it is now. I just hope Morris can help in QB development and the WR route tree. If he does, well we are better off than we were.
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Wes, I by no means am excited about the Morris hire. I will say that the time Morris had as OC and also HC at SMU, he was successful. Maybe the big lights of the SEC was too big for him as a HC. Perhaps there too many other issues at Ark to overcome on top of trying to rebuild. Maybe his failures were a combo of both. All this has already been mentioned. Also mentioned, is that Gus will run HIS offense regardless of who is the OC. Yes Gus hired an old buddy that sucked at his previous employment. It is what it is now. I just hope Morris can help in QB development and the WR route tree. If he does, well we are better off than we were.
Kevin Steele was 9-36 at Baylor (1-31 in conference)
all I'm saying is everyone could be right about Morris, however, good coordinators do not always make good head coaches. I would like to see him, coach before I make a determination. I lean more towards Arkansas is a shitty place to coach (sorry Hog Fans)
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Kevin Steele was 9-36 at Baylor (1-31 in conference)
all I'm saying is everyone could be right about Morris, however, good coordinators do not always make good head coaches. I would like to see him, coach before I make a determination. I lean more towards Arkansas is a shitty place to coach (sorry Hog Fans)
Well that's pretty much where I'm at, or at least where my hopes are.
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Wes, I by no means am excited about the Morris hire. I will say that the time Morris had as OC and also HC at SMU, he was successful. Maybe the big lights of the SEC was too big for him as a HC. Perhaps there too many other issues at Ark to overcome on top of trying to rebuild. Maybe his failures were a combo of both. All this has already been mentioned. Also mentioned, is that Gus will run HIS offense regardless of who is the OC. Yes Gus hired an old buddy that sucked at his previous employment. It is what it is now. I just hope Morris can help in QB development and the WR route tree. If he does, well we are better off than we were.
I get it, his resume wasn't horrible when he was hired. He may be the real deal as an OC.
I'm not talking strictly about his coaching abilities (though there were monumental failures in this regard at Arky), but his entire approach to being in that role.
I don't think much of the guy having watched him up close (yes, I spend an inordinate amount of time around/with Hog fans) and I can't fathom a single positive thing he adds to justify his price tag. I don't really want him in our locker room after watching the shittastic handling of his personnel.
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I'm ambiguvalent about the hire. On one hand, you can look at the successes Morris has had as an OC. Obviously, that's what we should be focused on and should give us hope. I don't read much of anything into his time as a head corch because I've said a hundred times that there are little to no similarities between handling one aspect of a program and taking over something the size of an SEC program and all the moving parts that go with it. It's kind of like Malzahn in that I think most people have long believed he's best suited as an OC and overmatched with the main headset on.
Now having said that, there's nothing that would make me believe that Morris will have any real input into running the offensive show. Gus can say it all he wants and even put it in writing, but at the end of the day, he's still calling the shots. Also, I've seen many say they hope Morris can help with the QB position. The thing that gives me pause is that there were 2 guys that took the majority of the snaps at Arky, Ben Hicks and Nick Starkel. Hicks spent 3 years at SMU and put up some decent numbers. He absolutely sucked ass for the Hawgs, throwing for well under 50%. Starkel, a transfer with experience from Texas A&M, also sucked rectum in a bad way. Is it a good thing for him to take Nix under his wing? I don't know.
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I'm ambiguvalent about the hire. On one hand, you can look at the successes Morris has had as an OC. Obviously, that's what we should be focused on and should give us hope. I don't read much of anything into his time as a head corch because I've said a hundred times that there are little to no similarities between handling one aspect of a program and taking over something the size of an SEC program and all the moving parts that go with it. It's kind of like Malzahn in that I think most people have long believed he's best suited as an OC and overmatched with the main headset on.
Now having said that, there's nothing that would make me believe that Morris will have any real input into running the offensive show. Gus can say it all he wants and even put it in writing, but at the end of the day, he's still calling the shots. Also, I've seen many say they hope Morris can help with the QB position. The thing that gives me pause is that there were 2 guys that took the majority of the snaps at Arky, Ben Hicks and Nick Starkel. Hicks spent 3 years at SMU and put up some decent numbers. He absolutely sucked ass for the Hawgs, throwing for well under 50%. Starkel, a transfer with experience from Texas A&M, also sucked rectum in a bad way. Is it a good thing for him to take Nix under his wing? I don't know.
No. It is a decidedly NOT good thing.
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Speed read thru this article to see what the addition of Longo as O.C. meant for the true freshman at North Carolina.
Yes I realize it is the ACC but this kid is no more advanced at reading defenses or far more talented than our freshman Bo Nix.
So if Morris is in the box which is where we expect him to be, a trained set of eyes should allow Nix to stretch the field vertically, add to his yards per attempt and open up the field in various ways that Malzahn simply can't see.
At the very least I think we see Gus get in a better rythym with more deep strikes and far fewer calls that are DOA.
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At the very least I think we see Gus get in a better rythym with more deep strikes and far fewer calls that are DOA.
Why, exactly? What, specifically, makes you think that Gus will be more successful from a play-calling perspective with the addition of Morris?
I'm not trying to be the NOTMORRIS guy, but I'm taking up that space for sure. I want someone to be able to convince me that he's a net positive to this staff.
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Why, exactly? What, specifically, makes you think that Gus will be more successful from a play-calling perspective with the addition of Morris?
I'm not trying to be the NOTMORRIS guy, but I'm taking up that space for sure. I want someone to be able to convince me that he's a net positive to this staff.
I can't convince you nor do I know of any way to offer definitive proof if he makes a positive impact on our offense.
I said "wait and see mode" which in my mind depends more on Malzahn.
How close we were to a couple more wins this season is anybody's guess.
Against our main rivals; if Morris is responsible for keeping our defense off the field for one less set of downs, if he helps Nix get three more completions to keep a drive alive, if he calls but one strike for a victory against any of those teams, to me he is worth it.
That's where I am with Malzahn.
Don't care about his Arkansas failure.
I just want Morris to be the catalyst that makes Malzahn better.
That's it.
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Why, exactly? What, specifically, makes you think that Gus will be more successful from a play-calling perspective with the addition of Morris?
I'm not trying to be the NOTMORRIS guy, but I'm taking up that space for sure. I want someone to be able to convince me that he's a net positive to this staff.
I'm not sure any addition to the offensive staff would be a net positive with Gustav in charge. He could hire the best OC since Joe Montana Mantegna and the offense would still look the same overall, because he can't let go of it.
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But then there's this...
Hopefully a comfortable Gus makes a more relaxed, better play caller Gus too.
https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2019/12/after-six-days-chad-morris-has-already-gained-the-class-of-2020s-trust.html (https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/2019/12/after-six-days-chad-morris-has-already-gained-the-class-of-2020s-trust.html)
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Why, exactly? What, specifically, makes you think that Gus will be more successful from a play-calling perspective with the addition of Morris?
I'm not trying to be the NOTMORRIS guy, but I'm taking up that space for sure. I want someone to be able to convince me that he's a net positive to this staff.
I contest that you are letting the Hog fans get inside your head and like Snags said HC and OC are vastly different things. Let's not forget Bielema was a god at Wisconsin and then set foot on Arkansas soil.
So specifically to answer your question...
Morris mentored and improved Tajh Boyd through his tenure at Clemson. Under Morris Clemson had the Offenses ranked (2011- 23rd:440avg / 2012- 6th:512avg / 2013- 8th:508avg / 2014- 54th:408avg) 2014 was a drop of for Morris because Boyd had left and they brought in a new QB a true Freshman by the name of Deshaun Watson who was lighting things up before he got hurt and Senior Cole Stoudt took over they still went 10-3 that year.
BTW guess who was lead recruiter for Deshaun
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I contest that you are letting the Hog fans get inside your head and like Snags said HC and OC are vastly different things. Let's not forget Bielema was a god at Wisconsin and then set foot on Arkansas soil.
So specifically to answer your question...
Morris mentored and improved Tajh Boyd through his tenure at Clemson. Under Morris Clemson had the Offenses ranked (2011- 23rd:440avg / 2012- 6th:512avg / 2013- 8th:508avg / 2014- 54th:408avg) 2014 was a drop of for Morris because Boyd had left and they brought in a new QB a true Freshman by the name of Deshaun Watson who was lighting things up before he got hurt and Senior Cole Stoudt took over they still went 10-3 that year.
BTW guess who was lead recruiter for Deshaun
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Looking at clemsons record before him. And after he arrived. It’s obvious at the time the dude was a top notch Oc.
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Now that Morris is in as OC and has been hitting the recruiting trail, I'm thinking he could (I hope) make everyone feel better by getting some OL to sign. Don't matter who calls the offense if we don't have guys to block for them.
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Looking at clemsons record before him. And after he arrived. It’s obvious at the time the dude was a top notch Oc.
Pshaw. He didn't uproot his family for Arky. He's a bum!