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Title: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 28, 2019, 03:40:31 PM
That be the kwerstion.  Do you go to Gatewood and see what he can do?  I know CGM said he wasn't going to change and I also fully get that the back up QB is many times, the most popular player on the team.  Just food for discussion/thought.

I've been a Nix fan from day 1. I thought he had more overall upside than Gatewood for the long haul.  I've said 100 times so far this season that we're going to have growing pains with the true freshman.  I've got to pat myself on the back for that one because I've got pain in my head, my back, my groin and other various and sundry places on my body.  I certainly haven't given up on Nix 8 games in and a ton of his problems stem from his coach constantly putting him in positions to fail.  But, the fact is he is flat out as inaccurate as any QB I've seen at AU.  He is Kadril wild.  That's saying something.

In addition, he doesn't quite grasp the fact that when the pocket is closing in, quickly spiking the ball at your own feet is going to get a flag and loss of down every time.  Bo can't help the fact that 90% of the calls for Seth Williams' are straight up go routes down the sidelines.  Granted, Seth is a huge, physical receiver who can go up and fight for the ball.  But you have to keep the pass inside the confines of the stadium for him to have a chance.  How many times did they throw that same route with the one bit of success coming on a desperation heave?

I have no idea if Gatewood would be better.  Nix will most likely come out against Ole Miss and pull a 17-21 315 yard 4 TD day.  We'll all be happy.  Then FUGA will pressure him into 7-24 and 73 yards with 2 picks.  If you were the Corch, would you turn it over to JG for this game?     
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: CCTAU on October 28, 2019, 03:49:46 PM
I would do exactly what I have been saying the whole year. Give JG a series in the first half, and a series in the second half. If he looks good, bring him back out for an encore.
a that point, we have a 2 QB system. I can live with that. I think if we had that the whole year, both get better and we are undefeated.

Is Nix horrible? No. But I do think Gus is close to breaking him.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 28, 2019, 04:09:23 PM
I would do exactly what I have been saying the whole year. Give JG a series in the first half, and a series in the second half. If he looks good, bring him back out for an encore.
a that point, we have a 2 QB system. I can live with that. I think if we had that the whole year, both get better and we are undefeated.

Is Nix horrible? No. But I do think Gus is close to breaking him.
Sounds reasonable.  Go with the hot hand.  Or lukewarm paw.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: RottenBottom on October 28, 2019, 04:59:32 PM
It doesn’t matter what we do until we change head coaches. I went and looked at history of my posts on here, and each year for the past 6 we have been bitching about the same things. 

He’s going to destroy whatever he touches.  For Gatewoods’s sake he should refuse to play for and be taught by him. 
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Godfather on October 28, 2019, 05:34:11 PM
I would do exactly what I have been saying the whole year. Give JG a series in the first half, and a series in the second half. If he looks good, bring him back out for an encore.
a that point, we have a 2 QB system. I can live with that. I think if we had that the whole year, both get better and we are undefeated.

Is Nix horrible? No. But I do think Gus is close to breaking him.
I agree with CCTAU, I'm not avocating a QB change Nix has shown he can win games.  I think the crowds really got to him in both games, because he isn't as wild in the confines of JHS.

What I would love to see is bring out a Gatewood package have 12 scripted plays the kid knows forwards and backward with RPO in there and let him run those 12 plays HUNH style.  I thought this would have been a great change of pace against LSU and would have thrown them off.  But what do I know I don't get paid 7 million a year.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 28, 2019, 05:42:32 PM
I agree with CCTAU, I'm not avocating a QB change Nix has shown he can win games.  I think the crowds really got to him in both games, because he isn't as wild in the confines of JHS.

What I would love to see is bring out a Gatewood package have 12 scripted plays the kid knows forwards and backward with RPO in there and let him run those 12 plays HUNH style.  I thought this would have been a great change of pace against LSU and would have thrown them off.  But what do I know I don't get paid 7 million a year.
Yeah, it's a tough call, but I think at this point, he'd be wise to do just that.  Give JG a set of scripted plays and see what he can do.  Problem is, Gus sucks at writing scripts.  Handing the ball off up the middle on 9 of those plays doesn't give him much to work with.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: jmar on October 28, 2019, 07:02:15 PM
Go to Gatewood and Sandberg.
Play whatever we have.
What does it matter? Gus is in control.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Kaos on October 28, 2019, 07:05:49 PM
Gus is the problem.  

Every quarterback who puts on an Auburn uniform does not become a functioning idiot on his own.  

Every quarterback but one we've had since Gus arrived on campus has struggled with mechanics, footwork, accuracy, decision-making and productivity.  

Cam was a phenomenal talent but still entered the NFL as raw as a cob. Nick Marshall really wasn't a quarterback.  He was better at the first of his junior season than he was at the end.  By the end he'd regressed pretty much to run-run-heave.  

Gus is what Gus is.  The VAAAAST majority of the time he puts a dysfunctional, disjointed fucktard offense on the field that cannot move the ball, looks utterly lost and shits the bed.  

Who can remember that year when Georgia was horrible and he couldn't generate a single first down in the second half because one player was injured?  That's who this bastard is.  

He's not a good offensive coach.  He's not consistent at all.  He cannot handle adversity.  

Do I want to start over?  I don't know.  It might be better than this helpless, hopeless apathy he's instilled in me.  

I didn't even want to watch the game Saturday because in my heart I knew what was going to happen.  Fumble fucking around like deranged fifth graders. 
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: jmar on October 28, 2019, 07:28:42 PM
Just one part of the multifaceted fail.

We only had Marquel Harrell at guard with multiple starts. The rest of the line is made up of coddled three year guys that weren't good enough to play in this league, a foreign kid they anointed left tackle and a grad student transfer.

He shortchanged the foundation of the team. Thank God he couldn't do to Steele the way he did the other defensive coordinators in previous years. 

Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: The Six on October 29, 2019, 08:33:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qABA0X6IzxU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qABA0X6IzxU)

That right there is what you'll find among half of the fanbase. The other half...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzIanLZj6Y4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzIanLZj6Y4)
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 29, 2019, 11:42:36 AM
The second video is how I picture Snaggs at Voodoofest.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: The Six on October 29, 2019, 12:38:25 PM
The second video is how I picture Snaggs at Voodoofest.
I liked that so hard I broke the button again. 
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: The Six on October 29, 2019, 12:39:11 PM
From today’s presser:

Auburn HC Gus Malzahn, when asked about QB Bo Nix's lack of runs vs. LSU: "Any time our quarterback is a runner, it opens up other things... If that opportunity presents itself — sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't — it can really open things up."

Huh?
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 29, 2019, 01:06:34 PM
The second video is how I picture Snaggs at Voodoofest.
I'm moving to New Orleans so I can do videos like this for my practice.

https://youtu.be/J0Wgz7auLAk (https://youtu.be/J0Wgz7auLAk)
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 29, 2019, 02:03:46 PM
I'm moving to New Orleans so I can do videos like this for my practice.

https://youtu.be/J0Wgz7auLAk (https://youtu.be/J0Wgz7auLAk)
Now that's a lawyer who cares.  Who?

JUAN LAFONTA...JUAN LAFONTA...JUAN LAFONTA
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: CCTAU on October 29, 2019, 02:22:54 PM
From today’s presser:

Auburn HC Gus Malzahn, when asked about QB Bo Nix's lack of runs vs. LSU: "Any time our quarterback is a runner, it opens up other things... If that opportunity presents itself — sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't — it can really open things up."

Huh?
You mean like when we were backed up on our own goal line and TWICE the defense ignored Nix while we ran it up the middle for no gain?
Yeah. That presented itself.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: bgreene on October 29, 2019, 02:48:48 PM
Does anyone else notice that the receivers don't appear to put much effort into their routes?  Williams is one of the worst, he just looks lazy,  Now this isn't an excuse for the play calling and wild throws but, it doesn't help.

Also, I've heard all season about our O line being seasoned and a bunch of seniors. IMO they suck!! Bo has a lot of growing to do but, his o line has set him up for failure too.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: The Six on October 29, 2019, 03:38:48 PM
Heard this comparison today and thought it was spot on. If Bo Nix was like the foundation poured for a house or a building, Auburn starting setting the posts and walls up before the concrete was dry. Now they wonder why it won't stay up in the wind.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 29, 2019, 03:42:24 PM
You mean like when we were backed up on our own goal line and TWICE the defense ignored Nix while we ran it up the middle for no gain?
Yeah. That presented itself.
I started shoving bamboo slivers under my fingernails to distract from watching that.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 29, 2019, 03:48:43 PM
Does anyone else notice that the receivers don't appear to put much effort into their routes?  Williams is one of the worst, he just looks lazy,  Now this isn't an excuse for the play calling and wild throws but, it doesn't help.

Also, I've heard all season about our O line being seasoned and a bunch of seniors. IMO they suck!! Bo has a lot of growing to do but, his o line has set him up for failure too.
I honestly don't know if it's a lack of effort on Williams' part.  I'm guessing but I think it looks that way because 90% of the routes they have him run are straight up go routes down the sidelines.  He's double covered every time. He's the guy that should be running slants along with Salad Canola.  It seems to me you want someone that can put a big body between the QB and DB. 

As for the O-line, they have definitely improved from supreme suckage in 2018, to partially putrid in 2019.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: CCTAU on October 29, 2019, 04:16:11 PM
Does anyone else notice that the receivers don't appear to put much effort into their routes?  Williams is one of the worst, he just looks lazy,  Now this isn't an excuse for the play calling and wild throws but, it doesn't help.

Also, I've heard all season about our O line being seasoned and a bunch of seniors. IMO they suck!! Bo has a lot of growing to do but, his o line has set him up for failure too.
And God forbid when the QB scrambles, they do anything but block!
When our QB scrambles and directs traffic, he's directing blockers.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Kaos on October 29, 2019, 11:33:20 PM
Rumors from the al.com beat that Gatewood didn't show for practice and plans to GTFO.  

Well, we got that ... uh.... and the.... 

Gus. 
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: jmar on October 30, 2019, 05:35:06 AM
Rumors from the al.com beat that Gatewood didn't show for practice and plans to GTFO. 

Well, we got that ... uh.... and the....

Gus.
Maybe due to lack of playing time but also Gus (on camera) snatching him like a youth league kid back to the sidelines early on v. LSU.
Not a good look.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: bgreene on October 30, 2019, 08:57:44 AM
Maybe due to lack of playing time but also Gus (on camera) snatching him like a youth league kid back to the sidelines early on v. LSU.
Not a good look.
My opinion on JG is that he is no threat to do anything but run.  He looks to be selfish, doesn't hand it off or look to pass the ball.  For him, it's not RPO, it's just R
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 30, 2019, 09:08:39 AM
Rumors from the al.com beat that Gatewood didn't show for practice and plans to GTFO. 

Well, we got that ... uh.... and the....

Gus.
As soon as I saw Gus snatch him back on the first goal line situation I figured he'd be hitting the transponder thingy on Monday morning.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: GH2001 on October 30, 2019, 09:21:21 AM
My opinion on JG is that he is no threat to do anything but run.  He looks to be selfish, doesn't hand it off or look to pass the ball.  For him, it's not RPO, it's just R
Not that we would know. Since he hasn’t been tried. And even if he did work great in game - gus would manage to f it up. Like he does every qb not named cam newton. 
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Godfather on October 30, 2019, 09:23:19 AM
Now that's a lawyer who cares.  Who?

JUAN LAFONTA...JUAN LAFONTA...JUAN LAFONTA
Why does that man with the blonde hair keep saying Juan Lafonta?
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 30, 2019, 09:45:52 AM
Why does that man with the blonde hair keep saying Juan Lafonta?
You ask the question but.....

(https://i.imgur.com/z8kyFon.gif) (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi_md6IjcTlAhXRxVkKHQP7CeUQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.lipstickalley.com%2Fthreads%2Fbig-freedia-juan-lafonta.1761051%2F&psig=AOvVaw2fcbLp_gPNSkE3QzCwoQEh&ust=1572528883440840)
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 30, 2019, 11:49:13 AM
Gatewood.  He gone.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-football/joey-gatewoods-future-with-auburn-reportedly-in-doubt/ (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-football/joey-gatewoods-future-with-auburn-reportedly-in-doubt/)
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: djsimp on October 30, 2019, 11:50:36 AM
Gatewood.  He gone.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-football/joey-gatewoods-future-with-auburn-reportedly-in-doubt/ (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/auburn-football/joey-gatewoods-future-with-auburn-reportedly-in-doubt/)
And.......

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/source-backup-quarterback-joey-gatewood-leaves-team/

via http://cbssportsapp.com
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: djsimp on October 30, 2019, 11:52:19 AM
If this right here doesnt drive that final nail, then Gus might as well be at Auburn forever...

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 30, 2019, 11:53:45 AM
Next man up.  Wil Appleton is now 3rd on the depth chart.

(https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/college-football/players/full/4283012.png) (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjIsJLSqcTlAhXkqFkKHY7GC-YQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.espn.com%2Fcollege-football%2Fplayer%2F_%2Fid%2F4283012%2Fwil-appleton&psig=AOvVaw3-HzhPCds8GHVSi1e1cJxe&ust=1572536598502747)
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 30, 2019, 11:55:47 AM
Sandberg is attending Auburn to mostly prepare himself for a career in coaching, and his arm strength is a huge question mark.

Wonderful news!  Thanks again, Gus.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: djsimp on October 30, 2019, 11:58:35 AM
Well, that just saves Gus from having to make a "tough" decision.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 30, 2019, 12:00:37 PM
This would really piss me the hell off if I really cared anymore.  Thanks to the Malz Plan, I am just numb once again.  Been clean and numb since 2015.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 30, 2019, 12:11:37 PM
Sandberg is attending Auburn to mostly prepare himself for a career in coaching, and his arm strength is a huge question mark.

Wonderful news!  Thanks again, Gus.
Dude is like 73 years old.  How much arm strength did you expect him to have?

(https://www.cubsinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Ryne-Sandberg-Post.jpg) (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwji3LTSrcTlAhVpx1kKHQxJCQUQjRx6BAgBEAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cubsinsider.com%2F2018%2F06%2F15%2Fthis-week-in-cubs-history-ryne-sandberg-walks-away%2Fryne-sandberg-post%2F&psig=AOvVaw0kawKt5A-eJu7YnQojoBve&ust=1572537700688139)
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 30, 2019, 12:18:01 PM
Damn that Gatewood.  He totally screwed my thread up.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: jmar on October 30, 2019, 12:35:46 PM
Damn that Gatewood.  He totally screwed my thread up.
Yeah I can't even consider liking any of this after reading the news. 
Think you could start a new one?
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: jmar on October 30, 2019, 12:37:29 PM
Well, that just saves Gus from having to make a "tough" decision.
This is where the man really shines, just you wait and see.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: bottomfeeder on October 30, 2019, 01:29:04 PM
I guess it's official.

https://247sports.com/college/auburn/Article/Source-Auburn-Tigers-quarterback-Joey-Gatewood-leaves-team-137740739
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: jmar on October 30, 2019, 02:03:18 PM
I guess it's official.

https://247sports.com/college/auburn/Article/Source-Auburn-Tigers-quarterback-Joey-Gatewood-leaves-team-137740739
Not to worry brother. 
We stacked with wildcats.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 30, 2019, 02:13:31 PM
Fuck you Gus.  Fuck you.




That is all.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: jmar on October 30, 2019, 02:20:52 PM
Fuck you Gus.  Fuck you.




That is all.
Hey fella. You stay in the game. We're gonna need you to be ready.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 30, 2019, 02:38:26 PM
The future is bright.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Kaos on October 30, 2019, 02:41:55 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTVJAfzIO3S2WhxGkaIBna-tpsxHtyTHTSG9sE1EHIvGrKZFr-Gsw&s)
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 30, 2019, 02:42:18 PM
I'm gonna go way out there on that limb and say he's not gonna change.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Kaos on October 30, 2019, 02:43:57 PM
Look at Houston Nutt's face.  The man was right all along. 

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6866/3625/1600/Gus%20and%20Nutt.0.jpg)
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: jmar on October 30, 2019, 02:51:17 PM
I'm gonna go way out there on that limb and say he's not gonna change.
A bold claim indeed sir.
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 30, 2019, 02:55:14 PM
So, we are to assume that Gus fixed the glitch?
Title: Re: To Change or Not To Change?
Post by: GH2001 on October 30, 2019, 03:39:36 PM
Look at Houston Nutt's face.  The man was right all along.

(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6866/3625/1600/Gus%20and%20Nutt.0.jpg)
Sad when Houston nutt is right.