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Title: Allen Greene just sent everyone a box of chocolate a-holes
Post by: The Six on December 19, 2018, 01:36:01 PM
Greene on future of Auburn football (https://twitter.com/joshvitale/status/1075422243600154625?s=21)


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"For those of you who are the most loyal;" - Code for: those of you who are still paying.

Rest of you: pfffffttttttt

As for this whole  take the load of Gus business - isn't that what the head coach is supposed to carry? So we now have an overpaid OC running the team. Wonderful. 

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Title: Re: Allen Greene just sent everyone a box of chocolate a-holes
Post by: Kaos on December 19, 2018, 09:09:47 PM
He's got an offensive mind, all right.  

Just makes me sad. 
Title: Re: Allen Greene just sent everyone a box of chocolate a-holes
Post by: GH2001 on December 19, 2018, 09:37:13 PM
He's got an offensive mind, all right. 

Just makes me sad.

Read your creed and gimme money. Or Gtfo of here.

Regards,

Allen G.
Title: Re: Allen Greene just sent everyone a box of chocolate a-holes
Post by: Godfather on December 20, 2018, 08:26:50 AM
He's got an offensive mind, all right. 

Just makes me sad.
I know I, find his play calling offensive.
Title: Re: Allen Greene just sent everyone a box of chocolate a-holes
Post by: AUTiger1 on December 21, 2018, 10:16:34 AM
Personally like Greene.  His hands are/were tied over Gus.  I don't mind the whole loyal deal either.  Go to other message boards and you have people wanting to lose every game . Hell, I hate Gus, but I want that bastard to win every damn game. 
Title: Re: Allen Greene just sent everyone a box of chocolate a-holes
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 21, 2018, 10:37:25 AM
Personally like Greene.  His hands are/were tied over Gus.  I don't mind the whole loyal deal either.  Go to other message boards and you have people wanting to lose every game . Hell, I hate Gus, but I want that bastard to win every damn game.
I'm the same way.  I don't care who the coach is as long as we're winning.  Sadly, our current corch sucks at it.  Got a dose of the Creed thumpers on the book of faces yesterday.  I'm just amazed at the blind loyalty and telling people they aren't true Auburn fans if they say anything negative.  Fuck that.  And fuck Georgia.
Title: Re: Allen Greene just sent everyone a box of chocolate a-holes
Post by: Kaos on December 21, 2018, 12:33:13 PM
I've never understood the "if you say anything critical about the program, the coaches or the players you're not a true fan" crowd either. 

From a purely business perspective, if you're not critically, honestly and objectively evaluating every facet of performance you're not doing the best you can. 

I don't necessarily want to be Saban where you view each piece and part impassionately and see them as completely replaceable and interchangeable parts of the overall whole -- BUT -- you have to have some of that in order to make things work.  I'm all for loyalty.  I'm loyal to my employees and expect them to be loyal to me personally and to the company overall.  But that doesn't prevent me from having clearly defined standards and objectives they have to meet.  I've had some struggles with that in the "I thought we were friends..." reaction to some difficult discussions/decisions. 

I don't think Gus has that.  He's blindly loyal to his people and I don't really see that they have performance standards that he's enforcing. 

I don't want Auburn to lose.  Ever.  But from a strictly analytical perspective, I don't think we have the pieces in place to prevent that from happening.  Would I rather lose short-term in order to foster a long-term winning strategy?  Sometimes you have to. 

I don't like criticizing Auburn, but I was critical of the Malzahn hire (thought he didn't have the gravitas), i've been critical of a number of his decisions (because I felt they were deeply flawed), I've been critical of his style (because he doesn't have the gravitas).  I've been critical of the administration because it too often seems like we're a mom and pop coffee shop pretending to be Starbucks and crapping on the brand either way. 

I lived in AU when I was younger.  My dad went there. My brother and sister went there. My uncles and aunts went there. My daughter recently graduated from Auburn (less than 10 years ago).  My younger daughter was snubbed by Auburn for reasons that were never fully explained in a manner that satisfied me.  I've watched the college change through the lives of my own family members over the last 50 years. I know change is inevitable and often painful, but I just don't think Auburn has ever had a cohesive plan.  We shoot ourselves in the dick time after time.  Part of that is the fact that we are constantly battling a state government and a state media that has a vested interest in keeping us "in our place."  But part of it is undeniably how poorly we've handled some things over the years. 

This whole "I love us when we're the underdog" mentality grates on me to no end.  The "I'd rather not be ranked" and the "I don't want to play at 11 because we'll lose" mindset also infuriates me. 

All that to say that there's nothing wrong with critical analysis or demanding excellence in performance and accountability.  The Creed thumpers should shut it.   
Title: Re: Allen Greene just sent everyone a box of chocolate a-holes
Post by: wesfau2 on December 21, 2018, 03:11:36 PM
I've never understood the "if you say anything critical about the program, the coaches or the players you're not a true fan" crowd either. 

From a purely business perspective, if you're not critically, honestly and objectively evaluating every facet of performance you're not doing the best you can. 

I don't necessarily want to be Saban where you view each piece and part impassionately and see them as completely replaceable and interchangeable parts of the overall whole -- BUT -- you have to have some of that in order to make things work.  I'm all for loyalty.  I'm loyal to my employees and expect them to be loyal to me personally and to the company overall.  But that doesn't prevent me from having clearly defined standards and objectives they have to meet.  I've had some struggles with that in the "I thought we were friends..." reaction to some difficult discussions/decisions. 

I don't think Gus has that.  He's blindly loyal to his people and I don't really see that they have performance standards that he's enforcing. 

I don't want Auburn to lose.  Ever.  But from a strictly analytical perspective, I don't think we have the pieces in place to prevent that from happening.  Would I rather lose short-term in order to foster a long-term winning strategy?  Sometimes you have to. 

I don't like criticizing Auburn, but I was critical of the Malzahn hire (thought he didn't have the gravitas), i've been critical of a number of his decisions (because I felt they were deeply flawed), I've been critical of his style (because he doesn't have the gravitas).  I've been critical of the administration because it too often seems like we're a mom and pop coffee shop pretending to be Starbucks and crapping on the brand either way. 

I lived in AU when I was younger.  My dad went there. My brother and sister went there. My uncles and aunts went there. My daughter recently graduated from Auburn (less than 10 years ago).  My younger daughter was snubbed by Auburn for reasons that were never fully explained in a manner that satisfied me.  I've watched the college change through the lives of my own family members over the last 50 years. I know change is inevitable and often painful, but I just don't think Auburn has ever had a cohesive plan.  We shoot ourselves in the dick time after time.  Part of that is the fact that we are constantly battling a state government and a state media that has a vested interest in keeping us "in our place."  But part of it is undeniably how poorly we've handled some things over the years. 

This whole "I love us when we're the underdog" mentality grates on me to no end.  The "I'd rather not be ranked" and the "I don't want to play at 11 because we'll lose" mindset also infuriates me. 

All that to say that there's nothing wrong with critical analysis or demanding excellence in performance and accountability.  The Creed thumpers should shut it. 
Let's raise the offering!