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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Godfather on September 04, 2018, 01:00:23 PM
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What the hell, I come back today expecting some breakdowns and got squat. So after much deliberation and watching the game twice here are my takeaways.
We won the game, happy about that. Washington is a good team, I wouldn't be surprised to see them avg 40 points a game the rest of the way.
I will start with the good:
This Defense is downright NASTY. Derrick Brown looks like a man playing against boys out there. DLine Outstanding job, pressured Browning all damn day, the difference in the game. Because you give Browning time he will pick you apart.
Linebackers... same A+ .... flock to the ball....speed.
Defensive Backs - Played well at times, and played well when it mattered. Young guys need to get their heads around more.
The Bad:
We were all right about the offensive line. I thought they played fairly well on passing, but they got zero push on rushing situations. Running lanes were far and few between.
Rushing game - Kam I don't believe can make his living running up the middle. I like what I see of BooBee I thought he should have played more. Looked much stronger than Kam.
Playcalling continues to boggle in the red zone.
Stidham continues to hold on to the ball way too long, I thought he played well, but honestly didn't see the growth I was expecting from last year. Still saw a lot of open receivers missed and holding on to the ball.
Musings:
I am hoping that some of the offensive line woes are attributable to Washington having a good DL I know they were highly touted.
Browning is a hell of a QB, don't get the Washington fans giving him shit. IMO Browning > Stidham
JB Grimes will get the OLine unfucked I believe in him.
Sal Canoli held onto a ball...for a touchdown!!! Why we don't utilize his size more is beyond me.
Note to whoever is calling the Auburn plays more crossing routes...they work.
Kevin Steele I salute you, sir! Calling an all-out blitz on 4th down with the game on the line. These are the big balls we have been waiting for.
Let's see some other running backs! More jet sweep with Shaun Shivers (dat boy is fast).
That's all I got for now.
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Agree with pretty much all of that.
I think that Wash defense is sneaky good and we're quite a bit better offensively than we looked.
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Kevin Steele I salute you, sir! Calling an all-out blitz on 4th down with the game on the line. These are the big balls we have been waiting for.
Good summary from the replay I watched and I am happy as hell to see Steele tell them to pin their ears back and come after him. If you have the horses you run them.
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Good summary from the replay I watched and I am happy as hell to see Steele tell them to pin their ears back and come after him. If you have the horses you run them.
Make em where they can’t sleep on the plane!!
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The play calling is what irritated me the most. Washington has a 1800lb DT #99, Gaines. Auburn has a 5'9" 190lb RB. What's the plan of attack? Dive right at the human wall and then mix it up by calling more dives...smh
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TL;DR
SMH
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I will start with the good:
This Defense is downright NASTY. Derrick Brown looks like a man playing against boys out there. DLine Outstanding job, pressured Browning all damn day, the difference in the game. Because you give Browning time he will pick you apart.
Linebackers... same A+ .... flock to the ball....speed.
Defensive Backs - Played well at times, and played well when it mattered. Young guys need to get their heads around more.
Agree on all counts. I was poo poo'ed when I said the DBs would be the only weak link of this defense. The sheer fact that my Hewitt boy, Igbo, won the starting CB spot as a true Sophomore switching over from WR was the first hint...
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The play calling is what irritated me the most. Washington has a 1800lb DT #99, Gaines. Auburn has a 5'9" 190lb RB. What's the plan of attack? Dive right at the human wall and then mix it up by calling more dives...smh
I don't see the issue here.
Signed,
Gustav Malzahn
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Defense: What GF said. Held #6 to 16 points. Kudos.
Offense: O-line was suspect at best; however, I harken back (Just wanted to use "harken" in casual conversation) to the Clamsum game last year. Anyone recall 11 sacks? Honk if you sacked Jarrett. Saturday's performance was a steamrolling compared to that abortion. Still, a ton of improvement needed.
Stidham: I've heard so many talking heads project the guy as a late first or early second rounder. I'm thinking they aren't saying that right now. Not that he did badly. It's just that at this point, to my totally untrained eye, he looks like the dreaded "system QB." He needs to know exactly where he's going with it when it touches his hands. Don't get me wrong. Love the guy. Great arm. Accurate. Makes all the throws. But if option #1 ain't there, the play usually breaks down. Now having said that, he made quite a few good plays taking off when it did break down. My hope is that UDub's defensive backs were as advertised. Probably a little of both.
Play Calling: Guess who got way too involved Saturday?
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Play Calling: Guess who got way too involved Saturday?
The one that continued to call for dive plays right at King Kong Bundy, with one of our smallest RBs.
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One other note. 12 penalties for 111 yards. :sad:
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One other note. 12 penalties for 111 yards. :sad:
This averages like 9.25 yards per penalty. There is no penalty for 9.25 yards in football. How would they even step that off?
Add math to the list of things that you know little of. You dumb fuck.
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not sure our punting unit was much an improvement. outside of that special teams played good.
Carlson will be fine...big stage jitters, hopefully.
i'm comfortable with the OL play...and the unit will just get stronger as the weeks roll by. i expect we'll see more Boobies.
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not sure our punting unit was much an improvement. outside of that special teams played good.
Carlson will be fine...big stage jitters, hopefully.
i'm comfortable with the OL play...and the unit will just get stronger as the weeks roll by. i expect we'll see more Boobies.
I agree, Boobie looked better than Kammie Kam. OLine play will get better. The pass protection was pretty good...the run blocking needs to improve some. The only glaring weakness, IMO, was the secondary, of course some of that is due to the fact that Jack Browning is better than a handful NFL QBs now.
So, start "Boobie" and throw in "Kammie" and maybe "Aston Martin", have the OLine gel a little more, throw to Seth Williams a few more times a game...maybe teach the CBs to turn their heads instead of clobbering the WR before the ball gets there, only to have them somehow still catch the fuckin thing. I mean, come on, if you're going to interfere, do it so that there's no way the reciever catches the ball.
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I'm happy for the opening win and agree with GF's take and the rest of you.
Don't care for the multiple dive plays with our unproven line but the only way to find out what you have against a quality defensive front is to keep trying to test them. So maybe our line is not too bad.
Actually the Husky db's were considered top notch as well, most experienced in their conference.
Was happy to see Cox getting some throws. Lindsey and Gus need to get Schwartz out of the redzone offense.
We have the receivers to get it done in that area.
*Hate that ode to Chip Kelly two point fail. Have we ever made one?
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Finally got around to watching the replay. Disagree with Gus got too involved. Go youtbube an Arizona St game....looked an awful lot like their O when Chip was there.
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Finally got around to watching the replay. Disagree with Gus got too involved. Go youtbube an Arizona St game....looked an awful lot like their O when Chip was there.
I think its automatic reaction when the O starts stalling. Myself included. Do I know if he actually did? Nope. Probably didnt, as you eluded to. I do know we were doing a lot of the same things that were working initially, but UW made some serious adjustments. Seams werent there like they were. Gaps were getting filled. They were dropping 8 guys regularly. Credit where due to UW.
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I think its automatic reaction when the O starts stalling. Myself included. Do I know if he actually did? Nope. Probably didnt, as you eluded to. I do know we were doing a lot of the same things that were working initially, but UW made some serious adjustments. Seams werent there like they were. Gaps were getting filled. They were dropping 8 guys regularly. Credit where due to UW.
I tend to agree with this take. The UW defense was legit and stymied most of our bread and butter plays once they got accustomed to the speed.
I feel like Gus's meddling has been much more obvious in the past. Like when he was holding a play sheet over his mouth and barking orders into his headset.
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That wasn't speculation.
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I tend to agree with this take. The UW defense was legit and stymied most of our bread and butter plays once they got accustomed to the speed.
I feel like Gus's meddling has been much more obvious in the past. Like when he was holding a play sheet over his mouth and barking orders into his headset.
I’ll admit I didn’t see him do that once Saturday. I think I wanted to believe that because human nature demands a boogie man when things don’t go right. I’m tending to lean towards the “2 days to think about it†theory instead.
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Five takeaways after much consideration:
1) Screw a field goal. I now hate field goals with a passion. Failing to convert over and over and over has bitten us in the butt numerous times.
2) Screw the cutesy two-point play. That idiocy breathed life into them. And then when they forced a stupid freaking field goal on the next possession? I correctly predicted the subsequent turtling the offense would slide into.
3) Where was the IDGAF liveliness of the back-to-back wins over UGA and UA? Clubbed both of them like baby seals and never relented. I want that back. That was fun and let the talent we have show. There was a lot of hesitancy and that 'afraid to trust the play' tentativeness that worries me against Washington.
4) How good is Washington, really? If they end up being a 6-6 team that's not going to look that great. I didn't really see a whole hell of a lot from them to indicate they are anything special. Makes it really difficult to gauge.
5) Around the SEC:
5a) Turnipseed Tagaboater is the greatest QB in college football history. Just ask any Bama fan. Yes, he looked okay against a horrible Louisville team. Did anybody bother to notice their defensive coordinator was Brian VanFreakingGorder? The same BrianVanFreakingGorder who led Auburn to giving up 41 to Ole Miss, 28 to La. Monroe, 28 to Miss State, 63 to A&M, 38 to UGA and 49 to UA? The same Brian VanFreakingGorder who only lasted four games at Notre Dame as DC? On top of that, what I saw of Toenail Tippecanoe was little more than backyard ball. Some of the throws people were raving about, he simply hurled them without any idea at all who was there. He may be some kind of savant, but I'm not ready to crown him.
5b) Mississippi State racked up points on Austin F. Peabody or something. Their fans are convinced they are at worst second in the SEC West. Pffft.
5c) Texas A&M punched out Northwestern Eastern State Barber school. Champions. Pffffft.
5d) Tennessee. Ha.
5f) Ole Miss actually looked good. Their QB was poised, accurate and efficient. Their WRs looked solid. They laid a beating on a Texas Tech team that thought they were going to walk all over the SEC scofflaws. There's plenty of time to Ole Miss (they always do) but the Rebel Black Shark Bears looked better than I expected.
5g) Florida. The Gators and Smuglen are BACK! Pfffft.
5f) LSU. I said before the game that LSU was a lot closer to the Clemson that bitchslapped Miami 38-3 last season than they were to the Syracuses and Virginias that the Canes squeaked by a year ago. I wasn't buying the Hurricane Hype until I saw them not look like paper mache against a team with a pulse. I wasn't overly impressed with LSU, but I thought they played better than most expected. They'll be a hard out in two weeks. We can't be playing cutesy football when they come in.
5g) Hell with Georgia. Smarmy assholes.
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I want to go on record with disagreeing with all takes on this thread minus the defense, Kam and the Cox pass on the two point conversion.
Not sure what y'all expected to happen, but I thought Stidham looked great, and the offense had to keep pounding it inside because our whole offense is based on that. I think the problem was Kam, not the OL. If Kerryon had been playing, Auburn wins by 20.
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Five takeaways after much consideration:
1) Screw a field goal. I now hate field goals with a passion. Failing to convert over and over and over has bitten us in the butt numerous times.
2) Screw the cutesy two-point play. That idiocy breathed life into them. And then when they forced a stupid freaking field goal on the next possession? I correctly predicted the subsequent turtling the offense would slide into.
3) Where was the IDGAF liveliness of the back-to-back wins over UGA and UA? Clubbed both of them like baby seals and never relented. I want that back. That was fun and let the talent we have show. There was a lot of hesitancy and that 'afraid to trust the play' tentativeness that worries me against Washington.
4) How good is Washington, really? If they end up being a 6-6 team that's not going to look that great. I didn't really see a whole hell of a lot from them to indicate they are anything special. Makes it really difficult to gauge.
5) Around the SEC:
5a) Turnipseed Tagaboater is the greatest QB in college football history. Just ask any Bama fan. Yes, he looked okay against a horrible Louisville team. Did anybody bother to notice their defensive coordinator was Brian VanFreakingGorder? The same BrianVanFreakingGorder who led Auburn to giving up 41 to Ole Miss, 28 to La. Monroe, 28 to Miss State, 63 to A&M, 38 to UGA and 49 to UA? The same Brian VanFreakingGorder who only lasted four games at Notre Dame as DC? On top of that, what I saw of Toenail Tippecanoe was little more than backyard ball. Some of the throws people were raving about, he simply hurled them without any idea at all who was there. He may be some kind of savant, but I'm not ready to crown him.
5b) Mississippi State racked up points on Austin F. Peabody or something. Their fans are convinced they are at worst second in the SEC West. Pffft.
5c) Texas A&M punched out Northwestern Eastern State Barber school. Champions. Pffffft.
5d) Tennessee. Ha.
5f) Ole Miss actually looked good. Their QB was poised, accurate and efficient. Their WRs looked solid. They laid a beating on a Texas Tech team that thought they were going to walk all over the SEC scofflaws. There's plenty of time to Ole Miss (they always do) but the Rebel Black Shark Bears looked better than I expected.
5g) Florida. The Gators and Smuglen are BACK! Pfffft.
5f) LSU. I said before the game that LSU was a lot closer to the Clemson that bitchslapped Miami 38-3 last season than they were to the Syracuses and Virginias that the Canes squeaked by a year ago. I wasn't buying the Hurricane Hype until I saw them not look like paper mache against a team with a pulse. I wasn't overly impressed with LSU, but I thought they played better than most expected. They'll be a hard out in two weeks. We can't be playing cutesy football when they come in.
5g) Hell with Georgia. Smarmy assholes.
I strongly disagree with this. The correct term is "Fuck Georgia". Please be more mindful in the future.
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I want to go on record with disagreeing with all takes on this thread minus the defense, Kam and the Cox pass on the two point conversion.
Not sure what y'all expected to happen, but I thought Stidham looked great, and the offense had to keep pounding it inside because our whole offense is based on that. I think the problem was Kam, not the OL. If Kerryon had been playing, Auburn wins by 20.
Yes, the 2 point conversion try was inexplicable. Stupid to even try it. No reason for it. Plus, what the hell kind of play are you trying to run? 2 against 9 seems like great odds to me.
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I want to go on record with disagreeing with all takes on this thread minus the defense, Kam and the Cox pass on the two point conversion.
Not sure what y'all expected to happen, but I thought Stidham looked great, and the offense had to keep pounding it inside because our whole offense is based on that. I think the problem was Kam, not the OL. If Kerryon had been playing, Auburn wins by 20.
While it's true Stidham holds the ball a bit too long at times he's also the most accurate QB Auburn has ever had.
Boobie would seem to be the answer between the tackles and Lindsey even said he would limit Kam's carries yet continued to use him on those dive plays. Are they actually showing restraint or was Whitlow a little dinged-up already?
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While it's true Stidham holds the ball a bit too long at times he's also the most accurate QB Auburn has ever had.
Boobie would seem to be the answer between the tackles and Lindsey even said he would limit Kam's carries yet continued to use him on those dive plays. Are they actually showing restraint or was Whitlow a little dinged-up already?
I'd have to guess it was more a case of bringing someone along slowly who had never had a carry in college ball.
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I'd have to guess it was more a case of bringing someone along slowly who had never had a carry in college ball.
This is being pretty condescending toward jmar.
Don’t take any shit jmar. The man is challenging your football knowledge. Knock a snot bubble in him.
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This is being pretty condescending toward jmar.
Don’t take any shit jmar. The man is challenging your football knowledge. Knock a snot bubble in him.
Snags might be partially right.
Boobie hadn't had a college carry either but the entire team knows he has the IT factor.
We've had fast guys, some like Cadillac with breakaway speed but it's been a different type that thrives in this offense. It's in the DNA not in the star power. We'll get it right soon enough and we'll run him till he drops.
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This is being pretty condescending toward jmar.
Don’t take any shit jmar. The man is challenging your football knowledge. Knock a snot bubble in him.
Yes he was being condescending.
But here's what we need...or something pretty close, particularly on first down.
We have all the weapons to make it work.
Rush stats:
2013 team 6.3/carry
Tre 5.7
Nick 6.2
CAP 6.7
Grant 9.8
Louis 10.4
2014 team 5.5/carry
CAP 5.3
Nick 5.2
Grant 6.1
Roc 5.0
Louis 12.2
Barber 5.4
Bray 8.2
2015 team 4.4/carry
Barber 4.3
Jovon 5.5
KJ 4.0
Roc 6.1
Truitt 4.7
2016 team 5.5/carry
Pett 5.9
KJ 4.9
Kam 7.3
Truitt 6.0
M.Miller 4.3
Stove 11.9
2017 team 4.8/carry
KJ 4.9
Pett 4.0
Kam 6.1
M.Miller 6.1
Stove 10.5
Willis 13.8
Barrett 5.6
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Yes he was being condescending.
But here's what we need...or something pretty close, particularly on first down.
We have all the weapons to make it work.
Rush stats:
2013 team 6.3/carry
Tre 5.7
Nick 6.2
CAP 6.7
Grant 9.8
Louis 10.4
2014 team 5.5/carry
CAP 5.3
Nick 5.2
Grant 6.1
Roc 5.0
Louis 12.2
Barber 5.4
Bray 8.2
2015 team 4.4/carry
Barber 4.3
Jovon 5.5
KJ 4.0
Roc 6.1
Truitt 4.7
2016 team 5.5/carry
Pett 5.9
KJ 4.9
Kam 7.3
Truitt 6.0
M.Miller 4.3
Stove 11.9
2017 team 4.8/carry
KJ 4.9
Pett 4.0
Kam 6.1
M.Miller 6.1
Stove 10.5
Willis 13.8
Barrett 5.6
I give you props on this one old man. Numbers seem pretty consistent across the board. Me thinks Boobies numbers will be closer to the high consistent numbers as those before him. Me thinks that Asa Martin will be much more of a contributor by seasons end. Kam IMO will be designated to the Jet Sweep/WR Screen guy. Somewhat to the Squirrel Chaser.
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I give you props on this one old man. Numbers seem pretty consistent across the board. Me thinks Boobies numbers will be closer to the high consistent numbers as those before him. Me thinks that Asa Martin will be much more of a contributor by seasons end. Kam IMO will be designated to the Jet Sweep/WR Screen guy. Somewhat to the Squirrel Chaser.
I'm keeping an eye on RG Mike Horton.
His man, Gaines #99 just shredded him. Now this guy is probably one of the tops in his conference mind you and definitely a beast versus the run. But he single handedly flushed Stidham numerous times causing more havoc than the morons at the Kavanaugh hearing.
Also made Driscoll look worse than he really was on runs to the right side.
Oh and Canella gets sort of entangled on throws between the hash marks or loses concentration...maybe he just doesn't care for traffic. He had three other opportunities other than that nice grab in the endzone.
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Oh and Canella gets sort of entangled on throws between the hash marks or loses concentration...maybe he just doesn't care for traffic. He had three other opportunities other than that nice grab in the endzone.
I'd like to like Canella, but I just don't.
Same with that Tory Carter idiot at LSU with the long hair who paints his entire face black before the game.
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We'll get it right soon enough and we'll run him till he drops.
This man speaks the troof
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This man speaks the troof
(https://crisisboom.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/blackhelicopters.jpg) ?
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I want to go on record with disagreeing with all takes on this thread minus the defense, Kam and the Cox pass on the two point conversion.
Not sure what y'all expected to happen, but I thought Stidham looked great, and the offense had to keep pounding it inside because our whole offense is based on that. I think the problem was Kam, not the OL. If Kerryon had been playing, Auburn wins by 20.
This is somewhat true. But we all know Kmart does not run in the same style as KJ. Hell, KJ from 2 years ago would not have gained many yards. The OL did not create many holes and I did not see where they stayed on their block long enough to have a KJ type runner be successful either.
The issue here is taht Boobie and Kmart are the same runners, except one is bigger. If Boobie learns patience and runs like KJ, then we will once again have two backs that complement each other. Until then, we just have two guys who quick hit the non existent hole.
Kmart is still the best runner, for now. We have to hope one of them learns a bit of patience and the OL stays on their blocks. I saw the Prince standing around with his guy one play so that his guy dropped off the block and made the tackle. Had Prince continued to push him, it would have been a big gain.
It took KJ 3 years to learn patience.