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Title: Different Perspective
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 15, 2018, 11:04:55 AM
Good read from sbnation.  Mostly focuses on the offensive side of the ball. 


Bill C’s annual preview series of every FBS team in college football continues. Catch up here (https://www.sbnation.com/college-football-team-previews-2018)!
Malzahn enters as the assistant dean of the SEC. Only Nick Saban has been a head coach longer. (Kentucky’s Mark Stoops entered in 2013 too, but we’ll say the tie goes to Malzahn because he has more wins.)
Logically, this makes sense. He’s been around in a business that tends to be the opposite of long-term.
But intuitively ... this is Auburn, right? The school that shoved Gene Chizik out two years after a national title? Auburn doesn’t do stable, right?
In truth, Auburn is one of the steadier jobs among its peers. Chizik aside — his four years were a whirlwind replete with a hostile welcome, a title, and a fall off a cliff — this job tends to stay in the same person’s hands for a while. Tommy Tuberville, Terry Bowden, and Pat Dye stayed for an average of 9.3 years. Doug Barfield lasted five despite a .500 record, and Shug Jordan lasted a quarter-century.
Malzahn is one of only seven to hold the full-time job since World War II. There’s drama, mind you — plenty of it — but changes are rare. Despite long tenures from Bear Bryant and Nick Saban, Alabama has employed nine in that span. LSU: 12. Georgia: also seven.
There’s a chance, then, that Malzahn is only getting started on the Plains. And that’s a great thing in basically all ways but one.
In five seasons, Malzahn has beaten Saban-era Alabama twice — the only other active coach to have done that is Urban Meyer — won two SEC West titles and a championship game and made one national title game. Based on preseason AP rankings, he’s exceeded expectations three times and finished in the postseason top 10 twice.
This is all with what might be the hardest average schedule in the country. Adjusting for opponent, he’s finished 13th or better in S&P (https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/10/13/16457830/college-football-advanced-stats-analytics-rankings)+ four times.

Related
Nike drops new college-themed Free Trainer V8 Week Zero collection  (https://www.sbnation.com/2018/8/13/17660558/nike-free-trainer-v8-week-zero-collection-college-alabama-ohio-state-michigan-usc-clemson)

The only environment in which this isn’t a massive success is one in which Saban is your chief rival. Saban has two national titles and five top-10 finishes in the same time period.
The way 2017 played out was particularly cruel. Auburn beat No. 2 Georgia and No. 1 Alabama to wrap up a division title and rise from 14th in the CFP rankings to second. The Tigers were positioned to become the first two-loss team to reach the Playoff and trailed Georgia by just six heading into the fourth quarter of the SEC title game. But Georgia scored twice ... and then Auburn had to watch one main rival (the Dawgs) play the other (the Tide) for the title.
The Tigers then lost to UCF in the Peach Bowl (http://www.sbnation.com/peach-bowl), too. But hey, at least that meant UCF could antagonize Bama (https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/1/8/16845882/ucf-national-championship).
It was the latest rough finish. Auburn lost three of four to end 2016, four of seven in 2015, and four of five in 2014.
Back-loaded schedules keep changing how we view AU’s seasons. The 2018 Tigers face three teams in the projected S&P+ top six, all away from home, and two — No. 6 Georgia and No. 2 Alabama — come, as usual, in the last three weeks of the regular season. There are four other projected top-25 teams as well.
Auburn is loaded, mind you. The Tigers are projected fifth and return quarterback Jarrett Stidham (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/270627/jarrett-stidham), his top five wide receivers (though a couple are still trying to come back from knee injuries), and a majority of the two-deep from a defense that has ranked ninth or better in Def. S&P+ in each of coordinator Kevin Steele’s first two seasons. The run game requires retooling, but running isn’t generally one of Malzahn’s issues.
This is going to be ... a pretty Auburn season, in other words. The Tigers are going to have a chance in every game and should go at least 9-3. But I guess that only matters so much if Saban is lifting another trophy afterward.

Related
2017 Auburn advanced statistical profile (https://www.footballstudyhall.com/pages/2017-auburn-advanced-statistical-profile)
The 2018 advanced college football stats glossary (https://www.footballstudyhall.com/2018/2/2/16963820/college-football-advanced-stats-glossary)

Offense

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Stidham’s first season after a transfer from Baylor was sketchy at the start and finish, but amazing in the middle. Over the first two and last two games of the season, he completed 58 percent of his passes at 10.4 yards per completion with a 114.1 passer rating. Over the 10 games in the middle: 71 percent, 13.8 per completion, 169.4 rating.
He also averaged 5.4 yards per non-sack carry over just enough rushes to punish defenses for over-pursuing the running back. He was brilliant against Georgia (the first time) and Alabama, too. With Stidham, Auburn improved from 44th to 10th in Passing S&P+.

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/FPlvXfARlQ-ow1v9jM4CwJXELAU=/0x0:3333x2222/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:3333x2222)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11726827/usa_today_10437133.jpg)Jarrett Stidham (8) and friends

Considering the following, it is quite conceivable that the Tigers could improve further:
Coordinator Chip Lindsey’s first season saw an aerial shift in the run-pass ratio, but most of that was because Lindsey trusted Stidham on passing downs. On run downs, Auburn still ran, even with an injured RB stable.
Backs Kerryon Johnson and Kamryn Pettway (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/248199/kamryn-pettway) combined to miss 11 games (nine from Pettway (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/270147/kamryn-pettway), two from Johnson), and their combined per-carry average slipped from 5.4 to 4.7. They rarely lost yardage — Auburn was ninth in stuff rate (avoiding run stops at or behind the line) — but the explosiveness was minimal.
Johnson and Pettway are gone, as are those responsible for 50 of 70 starts up front. Wanogho and guards Mike Horton (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/270117/mike-horton) and Marquel Harrell (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/270111/marquel-harrell) are back after serving as part-time starters, and UMass transfer Jack Driscoll (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/274571/jack-driscoll) (20 career starts in Amherst) could be an immediate starter at right tackle if he can fend off four-star redshirt freshman Austin Troxell. There’s still run-game experience.
There’s also still Kam Martin (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/280266/kam-martin) in the backfield. The junior got more carries than expected last year thanks to injuries, and his 6-yard average dwarfed that of Johnson and Pettway. (Granted, that average fell to 4.9 without the Georgia Southern and ULM games.)
Sophomores Malik Miller and Devan Barrett (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/289052/devan-barrett) each saw some action, redshirt freshman Jatarvious Whitlow has been a standout in practice, and there are new blue-chippers who could find time (four-star freshmen Asa Martin (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/306988/asa-martin) and Shaun Shivers (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/308552/shaun-shivers), plus Harold Joiner (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/308549/harold-joiner), who could play H-back).
It’s hard to be as confident in the depth as we were last year, so it’d be great if the injury bug stopped biting the skill corps. But the top-line talent is awfully strong, especially in the passing game.

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Wzf7eCZsZPirsgW7A3DiQSzYeEw=/0x0:3388x2259/920x0/filters:focal(0x0:3388x2259)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11726831/usa_today_10512032.jpg)Darius Slayton
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Godfather on August 15, 2018, 11:41:12 AM
This has nothing to do with Tua Toooliasaopiawhatmalapinga or Jalen Hurts...WTF?
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: CCTAU on August 15, 2018, 01:55:34 PM
Somebody forgot to tell them that two of those WRs they say are coming back, now reside on the island of broken toys...
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: GH2001 on August 15, 2018, 01:59:46 PM
But what about the nike free trainer college themed v8?
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Godfather on August 15, 2018, 02:16:19 PM
Somebody forgot to tell them that two of those WRs they say are coming back, now reside on the island of broken toys...
Hastings and Stove? They mention that...

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  • Stove and Hastings suffered torn ACLs early in the offseason, but indications are that both are on schedule to be healthy by at least the midway point of the season (https://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Injured-Auburn-Tigers-receivers-Will-Hastings-Eli-Stove-participate-in-drills-after-tearing-ACLs-in-spring-120362850/).
  • Stove is an important horizontal weapon, but so is Davis, who more than doubled any other player’s receptions total with 84. Slayton (22.2 yards per catch) and Craig-Myers (17.8), meanwhile, are two of the SEC’s better vertical threats. And with sophomore Marquis McClain (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/280267/marquis-mcclain) and three four-star freshmen (Matthew Hill (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/308545/matthew-hill), Anthony Schwartz (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/310177/anthony-schwartz), and Seth Williams (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/304258/seth-williams)), plus maybe some cameos from cornerback Noah Igbinoghene (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/players/289062/noah-igbinoghene), Auburn’s got one of the most loaded receiving corps even without the two ACL victims.



Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Kaos on August 15, 2018, 03:53:01 PM
But what about the nike free trainer college themed v8?
I got my new Auburn-themed Underarmour Hovr shoes today.  

In person they look like cheerleader shoes, dammit.  


(https://aubookstore.com/images/product/medium/14650.jpg)
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Godfather on August 15, 2018, 04:01:03 PM
I got my new Auburn-themed Underarmour Hovr shoes today. 

In person they look like cheerleader shoes, dammit. 


(https://aubookstore.com/images/product/medium/14650.jpg)
wah...wah ...waaaaaaaah
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 15, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKC8Cb2UwAAsfEr.jpg) (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiU9o-K7e_cAhXJneAKHS5tDZYQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Faucheerleading%2Fstatus%2F621703502063104000&psig=AOvVaw26YOg0nvqu2EyiHrwzkQNj&ust=1534449794228351)
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 15, 2018, 04:19:13 PM
Damn that Jay Jacobs!  Why don't the cheerleaders have Under Armour shoes too?
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 15, 2018, 04:40:15 PM
Damn that Jay Jacobs!  Why don't the cheerleaders have Under Armour shoes too?
What shoes?
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: ssgaufan on August 15, 2018, 04:51:01 PM
I got my new Auburn-themed Underarmour Hovr shoes today. 

In person they look like cheerleader shoes, dammit. 


(https://aubookstore.com/images/product/medium/14650.jpg)
To be honest, they look like shit in this pic too.
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Kaos on August 15, 2018, 04:51:50 PM
What shoes?
As those girls are now the age of my youngest daughter..... I saw only the shoes.  
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Godfather on August 15, 2018, 05:06:28 PM
To be honest, they look like shit in this pic too.
*snicker*

You win the internet today.
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: CCTAU on August 15, 2018, 05:28:18 PM
Hastings and Stove? They mention that...
From what I am hearing, neither will be back this season.
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: CCTAU on August 15, 2018, 05:30:54 PM
Damn that Jay Jacobs!  Why don't the cheerleaders have Under Armour shoes too?
UA does not make a quality cheer shoe. Nike or Nfinity is what they like. And Nfinity loves their shoes!
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: ssgaufan on August 15, 2018, 05:37:19 PM
UA does not make a quality cheer shoe. Nike or Nfinity is what they like. And Nfinity loves their shoes!
My middle daughter got into cheering this year, and dang is it expensive!
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: CCTAU on August 15, 2018, 05:55:59 PM
My middle daughter got into cheering this year, and dang is it expensive!
Get out now....WHILE YOU CAN!

My daughter is entering her second season cheering at KSU. And another season on a level 6 open international team!

I bet you can't wait to hit the ole ATL for CheerSport!
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: The Six on August 16, 2018, 11:04:24 AM
Bill C does good work. 
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 16, 2018, 11:19:35 AM
From what I am hearing, neither will be back this season.
You gotta stop subscribing to Prowler's blog.
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: The Six on August 16, 2018, 11:23:37 AM
You gotta stop subscribing to Prowler's blog.
That's better than his podcast
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Godfather on August 16, 2018, 12:39:47 PM
You gotta stop subscribing to Prowler's blog.
You win the interwebs today
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: GH2001 on August 16, 2018, 04:57:56 PM
You win the interwebs today

WOTS
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: The Prowler on August 17, 2018, 12:17:27 AM
That's better than his podcast
Better than your podcast
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: The Prowler on August 17, 2018, 12:18:29 AM
To be honest, they look like shit in this pic too.
YUP
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: GH2001 on August 17, 2018, 11:19:44 AM
I got my new Auburn-themed Underarmour Hovr shoes today. 

In person they look like cheerleader shoes, dammit. 


(https://aubookstore.com/images/product/medium/14650.jpg)

How many times have I told you they are junk??
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: chityeah on August 17, 2018, 01:23:14 PM
I got my new Auburn-themed Underarmour Hovr shoes today. 

In person they look like cheerleader shoes, dammit. 


(https://aubookstore.com/images/product/medium/14650.jpg)
You know how I know you're gay?
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Kaos on August 19, 2018, 12:05:37 PM
How many times have I told you they are junk??
I’ve gotten a pair of shoes I wear only on Saturday every year since 2010.  That was the year I started doing that sort of by accident.  It’s become a “thing” like getting the same hat Dye wore every year in the 80s. 

Shoes are always UA because Cam wears...I mean Auburn has an Underarmour deal. Some have been (frankly) hideous. 

I had higher expectations for these because they are the completely re-engineered Hovr model which is supposed to be better. Guess I’ll find out in two weeks 
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Kaos on August 19, 2018, 12:07:35 PM
YUP
Not everyone wears Chacos, dipshit.  Just you. 
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 19, 2018, 01:50:39 PM
My middle daughter got into cheering this year, and dang is it expensive!
Kaos could probably give her some free pointers.

Or, at least some shoes.
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 19, 2018, 01:56:13 PM
YUP
This is what the Like button is for.

no need to yup the man. And it’s yes sir to me. Not yup.
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 19, 2018, 02:01:12 PM
Nate Craig is up to 214! If he’s still close to as fast, he gonna be Mac daddy. We will have a choose your poison with the WR corps.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.montgomeryadvertiser.com/amp/1013978002
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: CCTAU on August 19, 2018, 02:22:06 PM
Nate Craig is up to 214! If he’s still close to as fast, he gonna be Mac daddy. We will have a choose your poison with the WR corps.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.montgomeryadvertiser.com/amp/1013978002
Can't throw if you are on your back!
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Kaos on August 19, 2018, 03:38:12 PM
Nate Craig is up to 214! If he’s still close to as fast, he gonna be Mac daddy. We will have a choose your poison with the WR corps.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.montgomeryadvertiser.com/amp/1013978002
What size shoes does he wear?
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: chityeah on August 19, 2018, 06:23:56 PM
Can't throw if you are on your back!
I don't believe yet, that they are working on intermediate routes until I see it. If so? He won't be on his back until after he throws it. They have to catch it.
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 19, 2018, 06:42:56 PM
Sal Canola is going to make all of you eat your words.  He's going to catch one this year. 
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: jmar on August 19, 2018, 06:51:36 PM
Can't throw if you are on your back!
In case you missed it, our QB is a dual threat transfer from Baylor. He also hails from Stephensville, Texas. But yeah I agree it's hard to throw lying prone and all.
Title: Re: Different Perspective
Post by: chityeah on August 19, 2018, 08:25:05 PM
Sal Canola is going to make all of you eat your words.  He's going to catch one this year.
I did the math. It will be 1.289463217865900000