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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on January 20, 2018, 08:54:38 AM

Title: Freezing out there...
Post by: Kaos on January 20, 2018, 08:54:38 AM
According to my sources, Saban wanted to hire Freeze as OC but the administration wasn't comfortable with it.  So he promoted Locksley as a figurehead and is going to hire Freeze as an "analyst" when in reality he'll be running the offensive show. 

Assuming this comes to pass, how do they keep getting away with crap like this? 
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: wesfau2 on January 20, 2018, 09:11:10 AM
how do they keep getting away with crap like this?

You know how.
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: Kaos on January 20, 2018, 10:43:48 AM
If we'd promoted Kodi Burns to OC and hired Art Briles as an 'analyst' the outrage and outcry would be long and loud. 

Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: jmar on January 20, 2018, 11:07:48 AM
If we'd promoted Kodi Burns to OC and hired Art Briles as an 'analyst' the outrage and outcry would be long and loud.
Would Kodi be like a card holder?
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 20, 2018, 11:47:11 AM
Perfect timing for Saban to pull this off. Since Greene is black.

Half jokingly but think about it. That’s the news.

And on that front, I think it’s great to set the trend and break racial barriers—especially as it relates to sports. Because black kids have been the predominant athletes for a very long time. Society needs more black coaches and administrators.

I say that as a guy who is very much anti quota and anti affirmative action. But pro equality.

I know that may sound foreign or untrue to some but it’s very much accurate.

When you make a hire like AU, I think one of the biggest potential land mines is the idea that the hire was made primarily because of race. Sure, it is a factor. And I certainly hope we can capitalize with recruiting because we’ve got a black guy running the show. Sue me if it’s racist to feel that way.

But with this bold hire comes a bold responsibility.

IF. IF the job doesn’t get done, AU has to be willing to take the impending tremendous PR hit of firing him. That’s the danger of the hire, unfortunately.

You think Jacobs hung on because of believe me a good ol boy? Yep but I suspect a minority Jacobs would even longer. If Willingham could stay at ND AS HC that long?

Point is, it’s A LOT easier to make the hire than the fire.

So, I’m going to be behind this guy 200% and hope we never have to worry about that. He’s going to make mistakes. Even I would make mistakes. But this has the potential of being a legendary hire.

Legendary bust potential? Of course. But in my estimation, high side is much higher.
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: Vladimir on January 20, 2018, 12:15:46 PM
Perfect timing for Saban to pull this off. Since Greene is black.

Half jokingly but think about it. That’s the news.

And on that front, I think it’s great to set the trend and break racial barriers—especially as it relates to sports. Because black kids have been the predominant athletes for a very long time. Society needs more black coaches and administrators.

I say that as a guy who is very much anti quota and anti affirmative action. But pro equality.

I know that may sound foreign or untrue to some but it’s very much accurate.

When you make a hire like AU, I think one of the biggest potential land mines is the idea that the hire was made primarily because of race. Sure, it is a factor. And I certainly hope we can capitalize with recruiting because we’ve got a black guy running the show. Sue me if it’s racist to feel that way.

But with this bold hire comes a bold responsibility.

IF. IF the job doesn’t get done, AU has to be willing to take the impending tremendous PR hit of firing him. That’s the danger of the hire, unfortunately.

You think Jacobs hung on because of believe me a good ol boy? Yep but I suspect a minority Jacobs would even longer. If Willingham could stay at ND AS HC that long?

Point is, it’s A LOT easier to make the hire than the fire.

So, I’m going to be behind this guy 200% and hope we never have to worry about that. He’s going to make mistakes. Even I would make mistakes. But this has the potential of being a legendary hire.

Legendary bust potential? Of course. But in my estimation, high side is much higher.
This great read WT. You very smart man.

Thank you for all you do to lead the x.
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: jmar on January 20, 2018, 12:45:38 PM
TL/DR
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 20, 2018, 08:00:41 PM
According to my sources, Saban wanted to hire Freeze as OC but the administration wasn't comfortable with it.  So he promoted Locksley as a figurehead and is going to hire Freeze as an "analyst" when in reality he'll be running the offensive show. 

Assuming this comes to pass, how do they keep getting away with crap like this?
They make it by this much.
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Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: CCTAU on January 22, 2018, 09:37:15 AM
Because black kids have been the predominant athletes for a very long time. Society needs more black coaches and administrators.

Why not just force more white athletes into the system to reach true equality?

Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 22, 2018, 10:06:57 AM
Why not just force more white athletes into the system to reach true equality?
Many of the games are already slow enough as it is.
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: CCTAU on January 22, 2018, 10:48:59 AM
Many of the games are already slow enough as it is.

Still not equal in terms of race. I guess having a white coach and a white AD was the balance?
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 22, 2018, 11:05:38 AM
Still not equal in terms of race. I guess having a white coach and a white AD was the balance?
Being serious for a second, I am very happy that we hired our first black AD. I wasn’t clamoring for a black AD just for the sake of getting a minority in there. But I think it’s great when barriers are broken BECAUSE someone was worthy.

I think this is the case. Of course, the athlete posts are jokes. But, the better overall student athletes appear to be black on basketball and football. At least the majority.

Is it racist to notice this? I don’t think it it is.

But that is another reason I think it’s a great hire. It gives these student athletes some confidence, I would hope. Conference that society and especially AU is most concerned with work ethic and capabilities.

They deserve it. No, I don’t want a quota on it. But I do believe it is slow to improve. I don’t know the reason. I seriously doubt it is entirely due to racism.

Most people want the best candidate nowadays. At least I feel that way and I believe the majority of my friends do. I don’t care if it’s a guy or a girl or they are green, as long as it’s the best person.
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: CCTAU on January 22, 2018, 11:12:54 AM
Being serious for a second, I am very happy that we hired our first black AD. I wasn’t clamoring for a black AD just for the sake of getting a minority in there. But I think it’s great when barriers are broken BECAUSE someone was worthy.

I think this is the case. Of course, the athlete posts are jokes. But, the better overall student athletes appear to be black on basketball and football. At least the majority.

Is it racist to notice this? I don’t think it it is.

But that is another reason I think it’s a great hire. It gives these student athletes some confidence, I would hope. Conference that society and especially AU is most concerned with work ethic and capabilities.

They deserve it. No, I don’t want a quota on it. But I do believe it is slow to improve. I don’t know the reason. I seriously doubt it is entirely due to racism.

Most people want the best candidate nowadays. At least I feel that way and I believe the majority of my friends do. I don’t care if it’s a guy or a girl or they are green, as long as it’s NOT A DEMOCRAT!

Agreed!
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: Jumbo on January 26, 2018, 02:18:12 AM
I voted for Buzz.
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: jmar on January 26, 2018, 06:03:34 AM
I voted for Buzz.
Ah yes...the reform candidate.
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: Saniflush on January 26, 2018, 08:37:07 AM
Ah yes...the reform candidate.

He's our very own stumpy little midget with a broom.
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 26, 2018, 08:56:21 AM
He's our very own stumpy little midget with a broom.

Wouldn't we look like a bunch of Johnny-come-latelies, bragging on our own midget, doesn't matter how stumpy.
Title: Re: Freezing out there...
Post by: GH2001 on January 26, 2018, 01:08:45 PM
Ah yes...the reform candidate.

How we gonna run reform when we the damn incumbent?