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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on September 25, 2017, 02:00:41 PM
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To me this is really simple.
Standing up during the presentation of this nation's colors should transcend petty politics and some undefined perceived slight.
You stand because that flag and our anthem represent the country that gives you the right to be there on that day, whether you are in the stands as a fan or on the field as a player, coach, owner or member of the press. It doesn't represent democrats or republicans, blacks or whites. It represents the freedom and liberty that has been forged over the last 241 years.
It hasn't always been a smooth process. There have been bumps along the way. It hasn't always been perfect. But show me another nation in the history of the world that has been as willing and able to adapt to changing societal norms. Show me another nation on this earth that works as hard to protect the freedoms and proclivities of its citizens.
You stand because this is your home country, this is the only country on the planet where the issues and ills that plague you can be legitimately and effectively addressed.
You stand because that flag represents the freedoms that allow you to safely play or attend a game and somehow believe that it is important in the grand scheme of things in any way whatsoever.
You stand because this is truly the only country in the world where your voice matters.
You stand to honor the country. You stand to respect the history and struggle that has gone into making this the greatest civilization that has ever existed.
You stand to honor the men and women who fought and died over the years to create a nation where leisure activities are a part of our daily routine; where our fight isn't for food or shelter but over frivolous things like football supremacy.
You stand because this is America, the world's bastion of freedom and the one and only place on this planet where you know that most people at least try to do the right and honorable thing.
You don't kneel to advance your own agenda.
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Why thank you. Please send this to President Trump. I think my words would help.
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I suspect that this kneeling doesn't have anything to do with police brutality, although it supposedly started that way with kapernick. It has everything to do with Trump being elected, imo. You have to read between the lines because I don't think even the kneelers know why they kneel.
But I do know that the ONLY thing that will change the direction is boycotting the NFL and it's advertisers.
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I suspect that this kneeling doesn't have anything to do with police brutality, although it supposedly started that way with kapernick. It has everything to do with Trump being elected, imo. You have to read between the lines because I don't think even the kneelers know why they kneel.
But I do know that the ONLY thing that will change the direction is boycotting the NFL and it's advertisers.
I'm going to miss Cam, but......
#BoycottNFL
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I suspect that this kneeling doesn't have anything to do with police brutality, although it supposedly started that way with kapernick. It has everything to do with Trump being elected, imo. You have to read between the lines because I don't think even the kneelers know why they kneel.
But I do know that the ONLY thing that will change the direction is boycotting the NFL and it's advertisers.
If the social mediaz are any indication, I think we can expect an even sharper decline in ratings starting right now.
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If the social mediaz are any indication, I think we can expect an even sharper decline in ratings starting right now.
So, are you saying that Kaos calling for a boycott is the beginning of the end for the NFL?
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Tonight could be interesting, Jerry has said his guys will stand, I have a faint feeling somebody his going to kneel. I could see Jerry cutting that player(s?) right there on the spot, at halftime or the very next day.
Jerry is first and foremost a business man, he does something like that and cowboy stuff would be flying off the shelf.
In reference to kneeling, I find disgraceful, I have served my country, those that are kneeling have never had to risk their life, sacrifice for a true belief. But yet they have the right (I fought for it), my right is not to support their product.
Nobody wins at this, just keeps the teams in the locker rooms till afterwards.
Edit: Since the NFL as a whole has supported the kneeling I would wish the DoD would quit sending support troops for the games.
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(https://pics.conservativememes.com/back-when-the-president-didnt-mind-if-you-took-a-27912118.png)
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Edit: Since the NFL has a whole has supported the kneeling I would wish the DoD would quit sending support troops for the games.
I'll take it a step further and wish that police would stop providing law enforcement to work games.
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This should be required watching for every kid in America. This is what a true leader does
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRJvl2TkNk
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I'll take it a step further and wish that police would stop providing law enforcement to work games.
Good point. :thumsup: :thumsup:
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While I'm on this subject, I really don't want to hear LeBron James' uneducated opinions on this or any other topic.
I don't want to hear Steph Curry's childish, uneducated opinions. I don't care what Collin Pimperdink or Mark "Fucking Punk" Ingram thinks.
I don't know how we got to a point in this country where some highly paid, woefully undereducated athlete believes they should pontificate on politics or social issues.
I hold them in the same disdain that I do people like Jim Carrey, Jimmy Kimmel, Jon Stewart, Colbert, Meryl Streep, Alec Baldwin and their ilk. They've never done anything of true substance, yet they feel obligated to lecture the rest of us for not being as austere as they are.
Shoot the fucking ball, LeBron. After that, shut your fucking mouth.
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While I'm on this subject, I really don't want to hear LeBron James' uneducated opinions on this or any other topic.
I don't want to hear Steph Curry's childish, uneducated opinions. I don't care what Collin Pimperdink or Mark "Fucking Punk" Ingram thinks.
I don't know how we got to a point in this country where some highly paid, woefully undereducated athlete believes they should pontificate on politics or social issues.
I hold them in the same disdain that I do people like Jim Carrey, Jimmy Kimmel, Jon Stewart, Colbert, Meryl Streep, Alec Baldwin and their ilk. They've never done anything of true substance, yet they feel obligated to lecture the rest of us for not being as austere as they are.
Shoot the fucking ball, LeBron. After that, shut your fucking mouth.
, I too agree players are employees and should be fired when they continue to use race as an excuse to disrespect America and exploit hard-working fans' time and money. There are approximately 6,000 homicide victims of black-on-black crime and over 500,000 black babies aborted annually, but let's raise a fist and kneel during the national anthem to protest the injustice of 200 black Americans shot by police each year; or roughly half the number of whites killed annually by law enforcement - some justified, some not - without one hijacked sporting event, political march or race riot. Only in America can 13% of the population account for 50% of violent crime and still labor under the delusion white racism is 100 percent to blame for all the problems in the black community. Numbers, unlike unemployed quarterbacks and overpaid players, don't lie and ignorant political stunts do nothing to change all lives for the better. Respecting America should never be incumbent upon who's president, but rather a universal respect for a way of life that transcends all races, struggles and ideologies.
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Tonight could be interesting, Jerry has said his guys will stand, I have a faint feeling somebody his going to kneel. I could see Jerry cutting that player(s?) right there on the spot, at halftime or the very next day.
Jerry is first and foremost a business man, he does something like that and cowboy stuff would be flying off the shelf.
In reference to kneeling, I find disgraceful, I have served my country, those that are kneeling have never had to risk their life, sacrifice for a true belief. But yet they have the right (I fought for it), my right is not to support their product.
Nobody wins at this, just keeps the teams in the locker rooms till afterwards.
Edit: Since the NFL as a whole has supported the kneeling I would wish the DoD would quit sending support troops for the games.
All of the Cowboys kneeled and locked arms, including Jerry Jones, before the anthem.
Dotard tweeted out that he was happy to hear the boos from the Cardinal fans and said it was the loudest boos he has ever heard (someone tell him that not everything is the biggest, greatest, loudest ever)
Then they all stood, still locked arms, during the anthem
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All of the Cowboys kneeled and locked arms, including Jerry Jones, before the anthem.
Dotard tweeted out that he was happy to hear the boos from the Cardinal fans and said it was the loudest boos he has ever heard (someone tell him that not everything is the biggest, greatest, loudest ever)
Then they all stood, still locked arms, during the anthem
Don't give a shit what they do before or after. They stood during. :thumsup:
And if the players really want to make a stand, Don't play.
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Don't give a shit what they do before or after. They stood during. :thumsup:
And if the players really want to make a stand, Don't play.
That is sorta the way I feel. But it's gone so far now, that I don't care anymore. I just won't watch!
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To me this is really simple.
Standing up during the presentation of this nation's colors should transcend petty politics and some undefined perceived slight.
You stand because that flag and our anthem represent the country that gives you the right to be there on that day, whether you are in the stands as a fan or on the field as a player, coach, owner or member of the press. It doesn't represent democrats or republicans, blacks or whites. It represents the freedom and liberty that has been forged over the last 241 years.
It hasn't always been a smooth process. There have been bumps along the way. It hasn't always been perfect. But show me another nation in the history of the world that has been as willing and able to adapt to changing societal norms. Show me another nation on this earth that works as hard to protect the freedoms and proclivities of its citizens.
You stand because this is your home country, this is the only country on the planet where the issues and ills that plague you can be legitimately and effectively addressed.
You stand because that flag represents the freedoms that allow you to safely play or attend a game and somehow believe that it is important in the grand scheme of things in any way whatsoever.
You stand because this is truly the only country in the world where your voice matters.
You stand to honor the country. You stand to respect the history and struggle that has gone into making this the greatest civilization that has ever existed.
You stand to honor the men and women who fought and died over the years to create a nation where leisure activities are a part of our daily routine; where our fight isn't for food or shelter but over frivolous things like football supremacy.
You stand because this is America, the world's bastion of freedom and the one and only place on this planet where you know that most people at least try to do the right and honorable thing.
You don't kneel to advance your own agenda.
When my president lied to me and claimed 4 of my comrades were murdered because of a video insulting Muslims...I didn't take a knee.
When my president shipped pallets of cash to my sworn enemy...I didn't take a knee.
When my president failed to identify Muslims as terrorists and Islam as an enemy of the state...I didn't take a knee.
When my president claimed that a man who tried to kill another man who lawfully defended himself could be his son...I didn't take a knee.
When my president defended a thug who bum rushed law enforcement...I didn't take a knee.
When my president ordered businesses to spend unnecessary funds to appease a minority of people who need mental intervention far more than they need their own toilet...I didn't take a knee.
When my president ordered that words 'one nation under God' be removed from the pledge of allegiance...I didn't take a knee.
When my president lied to me and said I could keep my doctors and my premiums would go down...I didn't take a knee.
When my president spent my tax dollars in foreign lands to interfere in their elections...I didn't take a knee.
While my president sat by passively and enabled ISIS to emerge as a stronger force dedicated to spreading Islamic ideals by committing murder, rape and torture...I didn't take a knee.
When my president allowed dictators and murderers to violate his red lines and continue to murder women and children with chemical gas...I didn't take a knee.
When my president chastised law enforcement for their actions but ignored the violence in our streets...I didn't take a knee.
When my president identified the weather as the greatest threat to America's safety while Muslims worldwide are murdering innocent people...I didn't take a knee.
While my president's insistence that pacifism and reform in numerous areas of the globe would bring peace but instead led to the strengthening of those that seek to destroy us...I didn't take a knee.
When the election of my president broke barriers never thought possible in America ended up being the high point of his eight years in office...I didn't take a knee.
In all that time I never disrespected our Country, our Armed Forces and Veterans, or our Nation. I remained vigilant. And I got a new president
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I know you didn't write that, but I applaud your copy and paste.
It gave me feels.
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I know you didn't write that, but I applaud your copy and paste.
It gave me feels.
C/P-the best part of my internets.
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I got no issue with social justice protest or whatever floats your boat. If you do it peacefully.
But not during the anthem. Why that time of all times? Why not hold a presser. Loser LeBron, that little kid Curry, Kaperdick, Jesse jackson - they can all call a press conference. Announce they are forming some bullshit coalition to combat social injustices to their sensitive vaginas. Call it's a charity or whatever. File it as a 501c and start tossing money into it. Hell even march in the streets with signs. A knee during the anthem does NOTHING but disrespect a sacred 2 mins during a sporting event.
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I got no issue with social justice protest or whatever floats your boat. If you do it peacefully.
But not during the anthem. Why that time of all times? Why not hold a presser. Loser LeBron, that little kid Curry, Kaperdick, Jesse jackson - they can all call a press conference. Announce they are forming some bullshit coalition to combat social injustices to their sensitive vaginas. Call it's a charity or whatever. File it as a 501c and start tossing money into it. Hell even march in the streets with signs. A knee during the anthem does NOTHING but disrespect a sacred 2 mins during a sporting event.
March in the street with signs...how many here have said "I'll run a sumbitch over, goddamn it!"
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I know you didn't write that, but I applaud your copy and paste.
It gave me feels.
Did the correct spelling give it away?
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March in the street with signs...how many here have said "I'll run a sumbitch over, goddamn it!"
Me. Your right to protest does not override my right of free movement.
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March in the street with signs...how many here have said "I'll run a sumbitch over, goddamn it!"
Well if they get permits and get it approved then the police will provide support and barricade those streets. I don't like it and I think it's a waste of resources but I wouldn't try and stop it.
Wouldn't you think that's a better way to show their disdain or a cause?
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March in the street with signs...how many here have said "I'll run a sumbitch over, goddamn it!"
Will you be marching?
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Well if they get permits and get it approved then the police will provide support and barricade those streets. I don't like it and I think it's a waste of resources but I wouldn't try and stop it.
Wouldn't you think that's a better way to show their disdain or a cause?
You realize people are still talking about Colin Kaepernick's protest from over a year ago right? Now more players are protesting this year, across multiple sports including amateur sports...all from the original protest.
Kneeling during the National Anthem was the best way of a peaceful protest (kinda hard to have agitators during the kneeling protest).
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You realize people are still talking about Colin Kaepernick's protest from over a year ago right? Now more players are protesting this year, across multiple sports including amateur sports...all from the original protest.
Kneeling during the National Anthem was the best way of a peaceful protest (kinda hard to have agitators during the kneeling protest).
I get it dude. I just think that when they are doing it is the worst possible time to do so.
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I get it dude. I just think that when they are doing it is the worst possible time to do so.
I liked the way that the Dallas Cowboys did it. Though, it wouldn't have sparked as much interest as it is now...Aaaand a lot of Americans wouldn't have shown their true colors and admit that they'd rather live like the Germans did back in the 30s or like the North Koreans do now.
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I liked the way that the Dallas Cowboys did it. Though, it wouldn't have sparked as much interest as it is now...Aaaand a lot of Americans wouldn't have shown their true colors and admit that they'd rather live like the Germans did back in the 30s or like the North Koreans do now.
Disagree on all fronts. If none of this had been going on (The Anthem kneeling) and the Dallas Cowboys walked out arm in arm to midfield and knelt just before the Anthem, the media would be going crazy to find out why. They would all have a platform to speak about why and there would be almost zero negativity and push back from the public. As for the rest of it, despite the fact that you served, there are millions of other Americans who did as well and find the fact that they have chosen to protest during the 2 minutes we pay tribute to the flag and our country, extremely offensive. It makes no difference what the protesters say their intent is, their actions are flat out offensive to so many. And unlike this snowflake generation, their being offended makes no difference. They have no say. Their opinions don't matter.
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Disagree on all fronts. If none of this had been going on (The Anthem kneeling) and the Dallas Cowboys walked out arm in arm to midfield and knelt just before the Anthem, the media would be going crazy to find out why. They would all have a platform to speak about why and there would be almost zero negativity and push back from the public. As for the rest of it, despite the fact that you served, there are millions of other Americans who did as well and find the fact that they have chosen to protest during the 2 minutes we pay tribute to the flag and our country, extremely offensive. It makes no difference what the protesters say their intent is, their actions are flat out offensive to so many. And unlike this snowflake generation, their being offended makes no difference. They have no say. Their opinions don't matter.
Write as if you actual have gonad. And sense. Unusual for you.
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You realize people are still talking about Colin Kaepernick's protest from over a year ago right? Now more players are protesting this year, across multiple sports including amateur sports...all from the original protest.
Kneeling during the National Anthem was the best way of a peaceful protest (kinda hard to have agitators during the kneeling protest).
Not so. The message has been lost. All anyone cares about is that they are kneeling. Don't care why!
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Not so. The message has been lost. All anyone cares about is that they are kneeling. Don't care why!
And that's the problem now. Need to change it up like the Cowboys did. Kneel before the anthem so that the snowflakes won't get all in a hissy fit that the players aren't standing at attention for the anthem, while they sit in their recliners, wearing their American flag tank top, eating cheesy puffs.
As for the millions that served and have a problem with their protest, they should look back and remember that they swore an oath to the constitution. It is because of them, that the players are able to protest. I've said it before, protesting is the most American thing anyone can do, it's how America was created...though it wasn't as peaceful as say kneeling during the anthem.
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And that's the problem now. Need to change it up like the Cowboys did. Kneel before the anthem so that the snowflakes won't get all in a hissy fit that the players aren't standing at attention for the anthem, while they sit in their recliners, wearing their American flag tank top, eating cheesy puffs.
As for the millions that served and have a problem with their protest, they should look back and remember that they swore an oath to the constitution. It is because of them, that the players are able to protest. I've said it before, protesting is the most American thing anyone can do, it's how America was created...though it wasn't as peaceful as say kneeling during the anthem.
It's not a problem. I don't give a shit. I'm done. And so are a shitload of others.
Your crusade has been lost!
Classic. A snowflake attempting to call others what HE is.
You lose twice today!
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And that's the problem now. Need to change it up like the Cowboys did. Kneel before the anthem so that the snowflakes won't get all in a hissy fit that the players aren't standing at attention for the anthem, while they sit in their recliners, wearing their American flag tank top, eating cheesy puffs.
As for the millions that served and have a problem with their protest, they should look back and remember that they swore an oath to the constitution. It is because of them, that the players are able to protest. I've said it before, protesting is the most American thing anyone can do, it's how America was created...though it wasn't as peaceful as say kneeling during the anthem.
I got no problems with people wanting to protest, but do it on their own time. I pay to watch a sport, either through cable subscriptions or actual tickets, I don't give a shit about your stance go to work and perform.
This is the difference to me.
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I got no problems with people wanting to protest, but do it on their own time. I pay to watch a sport, either through cable subscriptions or actual tickets, I don't give a shit about your stance go to work and perform.
This is the difference to me.
Dance, monkey!
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Dance, monkey!
Damn skraight!
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I got no problems with people wanting to protest, but do it on their own time. I pay to watch a sport, either through cable subscriptions or actual tickets, I don't give a shit about your stance go to work and perform.
This is the difference to me.
Real skreets right here folks.
The rest is fake news.
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And that's the problem now. Need to change it up like the Cowboys did. Kneel before the anthem so that the snowflakes won't get all in a hissy fit that the players aren't standing at attention for the anthem, while they sit in their recliners, wearing their American flag tank top, eating cheesy puffs.
As for the millions that served and have a problem with their protest, they should look back and remember that they swore an oath to the constitution. It is because of them, that the players are able to protest. I've said it before, protesting is the most American thing anyone can do, it's how America was created...though it wasn't as peaceful as say kneeling during the anthem.
Yawl are gonna run out of flags to protest pretty soon.
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Disagree on all fronts. If none of this had been going on (The Anthem kneeling) and the Dallas Cowboys walked out arm in arm to midfield and knelt just before the Anthem, the media would be going crazy to find out why. They would all have a platform to speak about why and there would be almost zero negativity and push back from the public. As for the rest of it, despite the fact that you served, there are millions of other Americans who did as well and find the fact that they have chosen to protest during the 2 minutes we pay tribute to the flag and our country, extremely offensive. It makes no difference what the protesters say their intent is, their actions are flat out offensive to so many. And unlike this snowflake generation, their being offended makes no difference. They have no say. Their opinions don't matter.
He speaks for most of us.
And that's all I'm sayin. You wanna protest? Have at it. Got no issue with it. It's WHEN they are doing it I have an issue with. I listed out a few scenarios in my reply up top they could choose instead. 2 mins. 2 friggin mins that are sacred. And that's when you choose to be a crybaby. Screw that.
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He speaks for most of us.
And that's all I'm sayin. You wanna protest? Have at it. Got no issue with it. It's WHEN they are doing it I have an issue with. I listed out a few scenarios in my reply up top they could choose instead. 2 mins. 2 friggin mins that are sacred. And that's when you choose to be a crybaby. Screw that.
I don't even care about that. Your right to free speech is unlimited.
But I can sure as shit disagree with your protest. I can call the premise itself stupid and unfounded, and the method in which it's carried out to be at the very least unpatriotic.
Like I said before, freedom of speech does not mean everyone has to like it, and it doesn't mean your employer has to give you a platform. It doesn't mean you're free from consequence. Somehow this was all I heard from the left when it came to James Damore and Brendan Eich, and hell, Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulis. But all of the sudden that aspect of free speech is a goddamn alien concept to them.
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I don't even care about that. Your right to free speech is unlimited.
But I can sure as shit disagree with your protest. I can call the premise itself stupid and unfounded, and the method in which it's carried out to be at the very least unpatriotic.
Like I said before, freedom of speech does not mean everyone has to like it, and it doesn't mean your employer has to give you a platform. It doesn't mean you're free from consequence. Somehow this was all I heard from the left when it came to James Damore and Brendan Eich, and hell, Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulis. But all of the sudden that aspect of free speech is a goddamn alien concept to them.
All that said. I don't want it to be illegal or banned. I really hate they are doing it but like you said it's their right. But.....I will not watch. And I will do my part to be part of the "consequences" they suffer due to poor choices.
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All that said. I don't want it to be illegal or banned. I really hate they are doing it but like you said it's their right. But.....I will not watch. And I will do my part to be part of the "consequences" they suffer due to poor choices.
You are not alone, tee times are starting to get harder to get on Sunday.
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You are not alone, tee times are starting to get harder to get on Sunday.
I agree to get to totally to get your post.