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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on September 02, 2017, 11:48:30 PM
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A buttload of meh.
I watched several games. We didn't look as effective or polished as a lot of teams.
Defense? Looked pretty stout.
Offense? Yawn. Again with the injuries and people not being available.
I wasn't wowed.
Don't know what I expected but I just wasn't moved.
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A buttload of meh.
I watched several games. We didn't look as effective or polished as a lot of teams.
Defense? Looked pretty stout.
Offense? Yawn. Again with the injuries and people not being available.
I wasn't wowed.
Don't know what I expected but I just wasn't moved.
Couldn't watch.
Went with Rod and Stan.
We can't have protection problems against Clemson the way this one started. It seemed to improve as the game went on although there could be some concern if Stidham holds the ball too long.
Defense stout as K noted.
Suspension's place us in sort of a bind with Pettway losing work and now that K.J. is lame. Should have shared carries but now...
White suspended for two?
There goes our experienced backup for the most important game of the season-the next one.
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Agree K but not sure how much of that is first game. Other than a few teams I saw more than not that looked rusty - from thurs night all the way up to last night. Haven't checked it but did I hear right somewhere that liberty had baylor down in the 4th??
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Agree K but not sure how much of that is first game. Other than a few teams I saw more than not that looked rusty - from thurs night all the way up to last night. Haven't checked it but did I hear right somewhere that liberty had baylor down in the 4th??
Yes but God is a Liberty fan.
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I think it's just in general.
Alabama has stomped all the fun out of the game for me. It's harder to care when they get every cheated advantage and every break.
If every other team is just hoping not to fuck up that sorta ruins it.
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I think it's just in general.
Alabama has stomped all the fun out of the game for me. It's harder to care when they get every cheated advantage and every break.
If every other team is just hoping not to fuck up that sorta ruins it.
With them I almost like having things stacked against us. It's the inexplicable loses to teams as shitty as last season's UGA that bother me.
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It wasn't as polished a performance as I was hoping for. Thankfully, the quality of the opponent gave us a larger than usual margin of error.
The offense showed little imagination and was pretty indistinguishable from a Malzahn-called game. Without Pettway hammering opponents into submission, this offense will struggle against our conference foes.
The defense looked amazing and it will be their responsibility to buy time for the offense to produce. I hope they don't grow tired of doing all the heavy lifting.
Legatron needs to settle into his groove...he will be a crucial piece of the puzzle.
Clemson looked pretty bad-assed with a new starting QB against slightly better competition. The Auburn defense I saw Saturday night, though, can wreak some havoc and should be able to get better push on the line than Kent State.
Maybe Gus and Chip were sandbagging Dabo. Maybe the new boss is the same as the old boss. I am the walrus.
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I agree. The offense looked meh and the defense looked lights out. For the love of all that is good in this world, Gus, let an offensive coordinator do HIS thing. You brought that style of triple option in an took the college football world by shock, but guess what, EVERYONE knows what you're doing now, it's not a surprise anymore to anyone. For god sake, the Georgia Southern coach even said they weren't surprised by what our offense was running.
:facepalm:
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There was some sandbagging going on. No need to show Clemson any more than we need to. Gonna be interesting to see what Hurricane Irma does this upcoming weekend
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I've never been a believer in the sandbagging theory. You always hear people say, "Well, they didn't want to show Team A what they've got." But if teams really do sandbag, last night was it. I'm not making excuses because the one thing they truly sucked at was pass protection. That's not sandbagging. That's shit that needs to get fixed. But the truth of the matter is, they ran ONE running play. The same one over and over and over.
Oh, and my prediction still stands. Will Hastings will have between 60 and 70 catches this year. (I'm pretty sure I predicted that somewhere. To somebody)
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There was some sandbagging going on. No need to show Clemson any more than we need to. Gonna be interesting to see what Hurricane Irma does this upcoming weekend
I am sick to fucking death of this bullshit excuse. Sick. To. Fuck. Ing. Death.
All the way back to the damned AU Fambly days I'd hear that "don't want to show the playbook" or "playing vanilla" shit. It was never true then. It has never been true one single time since. It's not true now. It won't be true the next time its rotted corpse is trotted out.
In fact, the next person who says that is going to get stomped into unconsciousness or beaten into oblivion with a golf club.
Quit telling yourself and others that fucking lie.
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I am sick to fudgeing death of this bullshoot excuse. Sick. To. fudge. Ing. Death.
All the way back to the damned AU Fambly days I'd hear that "don't want to show the playbook" or "playing vanilla" shoot. It was never true then. It has never been true one single time since. It's not true now. It won't be true the next time its rotted corpse is trotted out.
In fact, the next person who says that is going to get stomped into unconsciousness or beaten into oblivion with a golf club.
Quit telling yourself and others that fudgeing lie.
Actual conversation I heard:
Joe Maddon, Cubs Manager : "Hey, Nick, I think Auburn was playing vanilla."
Nick Saban, "Yep, they didn't want to show their playbook."
Make it happen, Kaos.
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I am sick to fucking death of this bullshit excuse. Sick. To. Fuck. Ing. Death.
All the way back to the damned AU Fambly days I'd hear that "don't want to show the playbook" or "playing vanilla" shit. It was never true then. It has never been true one single time since. It's not true now. It won't be true the next time its rotted corpse is trotted out.
In fact, the next person who says that is going to get stomped into unconsciousness or beaten into oblivion with a golf club.
Quit telling yourself and others that fucking lie.
Whenever Team A runs 1 or 2 running plays 50 times in a game, sprinkling in a few pass plays all out of the same formation against a lower tier team, first game of the season. Also, Team A plays the defending National Champs the following week...that's called Sandbagging, regardless if you believe it or not.
Now come at me with that golf club or just stop whining.
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We probably only have three or four true run plays and a few end around/ ( jet sweep) reverses to each side.
That's probably enough given we have more than three or four pass plays including the feared flanker (bubble) screen.
We have our best guards in there to mix in the counter trey (personal favorite) and power which has been a staple for us and now Alabama, see Damien Harris.
I'm just hoping for Chip to fully employ a college passing tree that doesn't emulate a 1A christian school with 23 players on the squad.
The talent is there to be more imaginative and versatile, we only need to execute and stay out of third and seven situations which make less than average defenses look much better.
Legatron shouldn't have to attempt 50+ yarders against bottom feeders given our talent level.
We looked like warmed over shit v. Climpsun last season and I still have visions of Watson and Mike Williams clowning us repeatedly in the second half.
Our two-headed, one dimensional "vanilla" offense kept our defense on the field forever and a day.
That was the day we made Brett Venable into something he's not- a defensive god.
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We probably only have three or four true run plays and a few end around/ ( jet sweep) reverses to each side.
That's probably enough given we have more than three or four pass plays including the feared flanker (bubble) screen.
We have our best guards in there to mix in the counter trey (personal favorite) and power which has been a staple for us and now Alabama, see Damien Harris.
I'm just hoping for Chip to fully employ a college passing tree that doesn't emulate a 1A christian school with 23 players on the squad.
The talent is there to be more imaginative and versatile, we only need to execute and stay out of third and seven situations which make less than average defenses look much better.
Legatron shouldn't have to attempt 50+ yarders against bottom feeders given our talent level.
We looked like warmed over shit v. Climpsun last season and I still have visions of Watson and Mike Williams clowning us repeatedly in the second half.
Our two-headed, one dimensional "vanilla" offense kept our defense on the field forever and a day.
That was the day we made Brett Venable into something he's not- a defensive god.
I did like that one slant for 6 that we threw...that was something new.
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I am sick to fucking death of this bullshit excuse. Sick. To. Fuck. Ing. Death.
All the way back to the damned AU Fambly days I'd hear that "don't want to show the playbook" or "playing vanilla" shit. It was never true then. It has never been true one single time since. It's not true now. It won't be true the next time its rotted corpse is trotted out.
In fact, the next person who says that is going to get stomped into unconsciousness or beaten into oblivion with a golf club.
Quit telling yourself and others that fucking lie.
I do think Gus does it to an extent due to his nature - which is being an overthinker. Not sure if he did that Saturday but I wouldn't be surprised. That said, there was some sloppy rust on our offense regardless as far as execution.
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I did like that one slant for 6 that we threw...that was something new.
I did wonder much did pettway being out and then subsequently carry-on - have an effect on any kind of creative passing game. Although both backs went over 100. The OL looked pathetic outside of the running game. I really hope much of this was game 1 rust.
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I did wonder much did pettway being out and then subsequently carry-on - have an effect on any kind of creative passing game. Although both backs went over 100. The OL looked pathetic outside of the running game. I really hope much of this was game 1 rust.
Didn't see the game so I was wondering how Wonogho sp. performed at LT especially as a pass blocker.
And I only bring this up given Malzahn's apprehensive nature to go with more experience rather than something from left field like a kid with three years of football.
Is the kid all that?
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Slightly more detailed breakdown.
Offense:
Gun shy gunslinger
Some of this is on the offensive line, but Stidham looked hesitant to pull the trigger. He can't be gunshy. He's got to hit the steps and put the ball in the air. Can't stand back there and hesitate. It sucks that he didn't have time to hesitate even a little against a rinky dink team, but still.
What you're looking for against a Georgia Southern is 15-20 completions and 300 yards passing. We threw the ball 26 times (24 by Stidham) and had 185 yards. Again, some was on the line, but Stidham can't get sacked by GSU three times. He can't almost throw and then change his mind.
I remember a Bama jackass honking "weyull, ya'll mebee gots a quarterback, but who tha hayull he gon' throw to?" I wonder that myself now. Do we have anybody who can get separation? Run decent routes?
Spun glass
I like Sean "Puffy" White and Kerryon Johnson. Both are apparently made of peanut brittle and spider webs. Johnson can't stay healthy.
We ran the ball 56 times. He ran it 16 and gimped up on that 16th run. There are 18 articles on al.com about Bama freshmen, bama linebackers, bama this and bama that. No update on Johnson's injury. Based on what I saw? Looked like a hamstring. I doubt we see him next week.
Should he have carried the ball 16 times midway through the second quarter? That seems excessive. Then again, we had to run a buttload of plays because GSU couldn't muster a first down. Part of that was because Pettway stupidly got himself suspended. With him in the lineup Johnson probably has 8-10 carries and possibly stays healthy. Possibly.
Defense
Yes it was Georgia Something State or whatever. But that looked like the kind of domination you'd achieve by adjusting all the settings in the old NCAA football for PlayStation.
Smothered them at the line, effective linebacker play. That was the kind of thing that would make Pat Dye and Tommy Tuberville smile. Long way to go, but it put me in mind of the big, fast, salty defenses Dye regularly fielded in the 80s.
Be curious to see how we perform against a Clemson offense that looked pretty polished in a win over Conecuh Sausage Technical College.
SO.....
Better get our shit together with the idiots being suspended. That's not a good start.
We don't have enough depth at running back considering Johnson is made of balsa wood. Pettway worries me because he made a stupid decision and doesn't have a full season under his belt either. After that it's a bunch of little skinny kids who bring back memories of Bowden's vision for RBs: Guys built like him.
I don't know if we have receivers who can make plays, which could lead to quarterback hesitation, which is exacerbated by an offensive line that looked weak against a weak opponent. That's a concern. I think Stidham can make throws White can't, but he's got to trust himself to make them.
I didn't really see a lot of difference offensively. That looked very much to me like a Malzahn finger-printed plan. Why the HELL is he still walking around with a laminated sheet full of plays? The biggest difference is that I didn't notice that scripted "first drive that works so well we get away from it for the rest of the game" deal.
I didn't see anything (except RB depth) that can't be improved in practice. BUT... if Malzahn holds true to form, we won't see much difference from week to week. He'll TALK about getting better, but what you saw is what you're going to see. THAT worries me a lot too.
We're a seven-point underdog at Clemson. I don't think that's unfair. I had this game marked as a win for us from the start, but I've changed my mind on that. I hate Dabo Swinney. He looks like a turtle having an orgasm from anal sex. I expected them to struggle a little in the absence of Watson and Williams. I expected our offense to have more sizz. Neither of those proved true. Thus, I haven't given up hope, but I no longer consider this an automatic.
As for the rest?
A&M? Wow. Only slightly better than the bonfire fail. They will, of course, play better later in the year, assuming that they aren't in the midst of a coaching change.
Florida? Chuckles. Michigan's uniforms blinded them.
South Carolina? Raise the banner! They beat NC State! Okay then.
Georgia? Meh.
Alabama? I'm not ready to crown them. Hurts looks like the same "one read and run" clown he was last year. They should be easier to stop than they are. FSU stopped them and FSU's defense is a joke.
LSU? Looked like a Les Miles coached team. I didn't see much energy or passion. They are a lot like us in that the defense appears nasty but the offense has questions.
Ole Miss and MSU? Fuck both of them. They didn't lose, that's about the best that can be said about either.
Arkansas? Bert is still fat. Allen looked better than I expected.
I don't care about Tennessee. Butch Jones is a red-faced fool. They'll never amount to much with him there.
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Alabama? I'm not ready to crown them. Hurts looks like the same "one read and run" clown he was last year. They should be easier to stop than they are. FSU stopped them and FSU's defense is a joke.
Meh. They finished 10th in the country last year, and returned all starters this year. Given some of the shitty games they had last year, I don't know how they finished 10th....but they did. I agree that Hurts looked about the same as last year, but he has a better deep ball it seems. Accuracy overall seems better.
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Malik miller is in no way skinny. Sad he only saw three plays!
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Malik miller is in no way skinny. Sad he only saw three plays!
God told Gus to take it easy on him.
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After that it's a bunch of little skinny kids who bring back memories of Bowden's vision for RBs: Guys built like him.
Leave Wes out of this.
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We're a seven-point underdog at Clemson. I don't think that's unfair. I had this game marked as a win for us from the start, but I've changed my mind on that. I hate Dabo Swinney. He looks like a turtle having an orgasm from anal sex. I expected them to struggle a little in the absence of Watson and Williams. I expected our offense to have more sizz. Neither of those proved true. Thus, I haven't given up hope, but I no longer consider this an automatic.
We are simpatico on this.
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We are simpatico on this.
Do you try to sound as gay as you can every day?
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We are simpatico on this.
Why exactly? Yes, Auburn did not look that great against Ga Southern but what did Clemson do? They played an outmatched Kent State team that has come out and said they weren't trying. The last two years, Clemson's game plan has been try not to screw up, and if they did, get Watson to throw a back shoulder ball to Williams. It was unstoppable. That's how they beat us last year. Until they prove they have that kind of bail out, I don't see how you can write this game off as a loss. If we can make a few first downs, I see the defense holding up all night. We will just have to keep the ball from them and party they don't have that third down safety valve.
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Honestly, I expect to see a completely different offense on Saturday night with a fresh and healthy Pettway and hopefully Kyle Davis in the lineup. The only thing that scares me is that quarterback taking off on most pass plays...could be a long night if we don't have a capable spy on him.
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Honestly, I expect to see a completely different offense on Saturday night with a fresh and healthy Pettway and hopefully Kyle Davis in the lineup. The only thing that scares me is that quarterback taking off on most pass plays...could be a long night if we don't have a capable spy on him.
Zero concerns about our defense.
ZERO.
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Honestly, I expect to see a completely different offense on Saturday night with a fresh and healthy Pettway and hopefully Kyle Davis in the lineup. The only thing that scares me is that quarterback taking off on most pass plays...could be a long night if we don't have a capable spy on him.
This guy laughs at you:
http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/deshaun_davis_907479.html
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Vanilla, vanilla, vanilla.
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Honestly, I expect to see a completely different offense on Saturday night with a fresh and healthy Pettway and hopefully Kyle Davis in the lineup. The only thing that scares me is that quarterback taking off on most pass plays...could be a long night if we don't have a capable spy on him.
You crazy. When has Gus ever altered anything?
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Until they prove they have that kind of bail out, I don't see how you can write this game off as a loss.
Who's doing that?
Thus, I haven't given up hope, but I no longer consider this an automatic.
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Who's doing that?
It looks like I can read words as well as Jeremy Johnson does defenses... Sorry about that confusion. I've just been seeing a good group of people other places saying Auburn has no chance so I guess I had that in my mind when I saw it.
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Zero concerns about our defense.
ZERO.
Don't you shout at me.
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I finished off a bottle of fireball Saturday night post game. Poured the last sip out for my homeboy Kerryon.
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I know there has been talk of sandbagging, well...
Auburn’s offense will be different
Offensive coordinator Chip Lindsey admitted the Tigers implemented six or seven new things against Georgia Southern in the season opener, which is technically a low amount of plays for a new coordinator introducing his own flavor to Gus Malzahn’s hurry-up, no-huddle offense.
Simply put, Auburn will implement and run more new plays and schemes than what you saw in the opener against Georgia Southern. These are plays Clemson may not have prepared for heading into this game, which gives Auburn an advantage on paper and on film (the coaches’ film study). Still, Auburn has to execute these plays and Jarrett Stidham has to improve after holding on to the ball too long at times against the Eagles last week.
Overall we’re expecting new looks, an expanded playbook and more deep shots down the field. So, stack that box, Clemson. Auburn is going to go over the top.
http://auburn.247sports.com/Gallery/5-reasons-why-No-13-Auburn-beats-No-3-Clemson-107076099
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Seems like a poorly considered philosophy to try implementing some new plays against a top 5 opponent, but what do I know?
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Haven't they learned from Trump?
You don't tell the enemy where you're going to be.
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What's the over and under on Auburn QBs and Wildcats that Gus alternates against Clemson?
Pettway rushes?
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What's the over and under on Auburn QBs and Wildcats that Gus alternates against Clemson?
Pettway rushes?
Wildcats=3
Pettway rushes=21
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What's the over and under on Auburn QBs and Wildcats that Gus alternates against Clemson?
Pettway rushes?
I hope to 8lbs 6 oz baby Jesus that Stidham doesn't go down because if he does, Gus has stated he "has a plan" for how to deal with that while Sean is sitting this one out as punishment. I'm 100% certain this translates to "We'll decide on a whim if we're gonna burn Malik's redshirt anyway, run some retarded Cox-Cat shit that's gonna result in zero yards every single time we deploy it, or just say fuck it and go back on our word and put White in, but probably some terrible combination of all of those things"
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probably some terrible combination of all of those things"
Guaranteed.
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Wildcats=3
Pettway rushes=21
First half numbers?
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Seems like a poorly considered philosophy to try implementing some new plays against a top 5 opponent, but what do I know?
I took that to mean they only ran six or seven plays in Lindsey's offense. Vanilla. Sandbagging. They did what they needed to do to handle GSU and no more. They didn't run half the stuff they ran in the spring or the scrimmage.
That said, the part about Stidham holding on to the ball too long scares the bejeezus out of me. I was pissed about the pass blocking, and it did in fact break down several times. But either JS was indecisive or the receivers weren't getting separation on several plays. Climpsum will slap a bitch if that happens Saturday.
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Wildcats=3
Pettway rushes=21
That's tenable. Hope three is on the money and Pettway can get as much as 90+ yards overall.
I like our chances if we can get close to 40 yards rushing from the others collectively.
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I took that to mean they only ran six or seven plays in Lindsey's offense. Vanilla. Sandbagging. They did what they needed to do to handle GSU and no more. They didn't run half the stuff they ran in the spring or the scrimmage.
That said, the part about Stidham holding on to the ball too long scares the bejeezus out of me. I was pissed about the pass blocking, and it did in fact break down several times. But either JS was indecisive or the receivers weren't getting separation on several plays. Climpsum will slap a bitch if that happens Saturday.
I'm making a kill list
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I hope to 8lbs 6 oz baby Jesus that Stidham doesn't go down because if he does, Gus has stated he "has a plan" for how to deal with that while Sean is sitting this one out as punishment. I'm 100% certain this translates to "We'll decide on a whim if we're gonna burn Malik's redshirt anyway, run some retarded Cox-Cat shit that's gonna result in zero yards every single time we deploy it, or just say fuck it and go back on our word and put White in, but probably some terrible combination of all of those things"
If that happens the Clemson fans should demand a refund for being hoodwinked into thinking they were attending a football game.
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I'm making a kill list
You need a manifesto to compliment that kill list in order to be taken seriously. This is 2017 fella.
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I'm making a kill list
You said you were doing that a while back. Stop sandbagging and get to it.
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You said you were doing that a while back. Stop sandbagging and get to it.
How many bitches have you actually cut?
Thought so.
#DBAP
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How many bitches have you actually cut?
Thought so.
#DBAP
https://youtu.be/sS2q6xIDRUc
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I'm making a kill list
He's just a bitch trying to get a slap