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Title: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: The Prowler on November 29, 2016, 08:19:42 PM
#1. bama
#14. Auburn
#15. Florida
#21. LSU
#22. Tennessee

Auburn is very likely Sugar Bowl bound, when bama beats Florida.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: Kaos on November 29, 2016, 08:46:01 PM
#1. bama
#14. Auburn
#15. Florida
#21. LSU
#22. Tennessee

Auburn is very likely Sugar Bowl bound, when bama beats Florida.

That's ugh.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 29, 2016, 09:39:36 PM
If White is back (he won't be), then yay. If not, we're going to be embarrassed.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: chinook on November 30, 2016, 12:47:19 AM
If White is back (he won't be), then yay. If not, we're going to be embarrassed.

Great analysis, Debbie.

Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: GH2001 on November 30, 2016, 09:06:45 AM
If White is back (he won't be), then yay. If not, we're going to be embarrassed.

Likely Oklahoma barring an upset right?

The poll also shows the saban effect in cfb. As much as I'm frustrated with Gus, this shit is happening at almost every program that actually plays a schedule. It's that 6-9 win range. Behind Bama everyone looks meh down to about the 40th best team. This is not fun.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 30, 2016, 09:30:23 AM
Likely Oklahoma barring an upset right?

The poll also shows the saban effect in cfb. As much as I'm frustrated with Gus, this shit is happening at almost every program that actually plays a schedule. It's that 6-9 win range. Behind Bama everyone looks meh down to about the 40th best team. This is not fun.

Like I said, it's not a level playing field.  And that playing field has nothing to do with X's and O's.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: GH2001 on November 30, 2016, 09:44:46 AM
Like I said, it's not a level playing field.  And that playing field has nothing to do with X's and O's.

The guy is in just about every coaches' head. Look how many he has sent packing from the sec - fulmer, tubs, richt, meyer, nutt, miles possibly even spurrier. Now Meyer and Harbaugh are cannabizing each other up there. Every sec coach aside from Derek Mason has lost their mind trying to figure Bama out. It's obvious. The desperation, the frustration, the pressure. It all weighs on these guys. They start going tard. Going away from what they do good. Do stupid shit. Etc Etc.  I know butch jones probably felt it more than anyone this year to start the season. Down in flames....I'm sorry but this just isn't good for cfb.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 30, 2016, 10:53:46 AM
The guy is in just about every coaches' head. Look how many he has sent packing from the sec - fulmer, tubs, richt, meyer, nutt, miles possibly even spurrier. Now Meyer and Harbaugh are cannabizing each other up there. Every sec coach aside from Derek Mason has lost their mind trying to figure Bama out. It's obvious. The desperation, the frustration, the pressure. It all weighs on these guys. They start going tard. Going away from what they do good. Do stupid shit. Etc Etc.  I know butch jones probably felt it more than anyone this year to start the season. Down in flames....I'm sorry but this just isn't good for cfb.

But why are they so good?  Why is it that they just have so many more quality players than everyone else?  Nick Saban's bubbly personality?  Every young man's desire to live in Tuscaloosa?
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 30, 2016, 11:32:00 AM
But why are they so good?  Why is it that they just have so many more quality players than everyone else?  Nick Saban's bubbly personality?  Every young man's desire to live in Tuscaloosa?

At first it was cheating their ass off. I don't even think they have to any more. Every media outlet is an Alabama splooge-fest. I think the program is on fucking cruise control right now because they are in on every single recruit whether they want them or not.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: djsimp on November 30, 2016, 12:54:30 PM
As mentioned my Prowler and GH, this is the current projection for Auburn in the bowl games.

Allstate Sugar Bowl

Mercedes-Benz Superdome, New Orleans
8:30 p.m. Jan. 2 (ESPN)

Schlabach: Auburn vs. Oklahoma
McMurphy: Auburn vs. Oklahoma State
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: Kaos on November 30, 2016, 01:07:52 PM
At first it was cheating their ass off. I don't even think they have to any more. Every media outlet is an Alabama splooge-fest. I think the program is on fucking cruise control right now because they are in on every single recruit whether they want them or not.

Good analysis. 

I remember when Saban first got to Tuscaloosa.  First thing he did was run off the hangers on, and all the good old boys who hung around the program.  Really pissed off a friend of mine who'd worked for Stallings and was used to having the run of the athletic complex.  Saban told him to his face to get out and never come back unless he had a specific purpose there.  He wanted Saban fired after his first season.  Would eat the little debbie crumbs out of his turds now.  Then he got control of the booster network. Before it was a wild west show and as inept and corrupt as the war between Tony Soprano and Phil Leotardo. He took charge of that, cut off a bunch of the small fry bag men and put the whole thing in the hands of a select few.  Was able to do it because Mal Moore was old and weak by that point. He also threw a rope around the high school coaches. Hired a bunch of them and gave every single one the hope that one day they, too, could become part of the Bama staff. 

His second year, I ran into an Auburn coach who was in Fairhope doing some recruiting.  He told me that after Saban arrived, the landscape changed.  Where they'd once been able to talk to recruits and give the Auburn pitch, now every single time a kid got high on the radar somebody would appear as a go-between.  A freshly discovered "uncle."  A high school coach.  A principal.  A "family friend."   Every message was filtered through those intermediaries and there was little chance to have an honest conversation.  Each one of those people also asked for some form of quid pro quo before granting an audience with the player.  He said that Saban had found ways to skirt the rules by giving jobs and benefits to girlfriends, the kid's friends and other people around them without directly handing stuff to the players.  He also said Auburn wasn't going to do that stuff and if it meant a few years in the wilderness?  Well, that's what it was going to be.  Wasn't worth it and just not our way. 

The next thing was the steroid program.  Does anybody seriously believe that braying moron Cochran has some miracle weightlifting program that is light years above everybody else?  Does nobody pick up on the fact that the "monsters" in Turdscaloosa typically become meerkats in the NFL?  Ingram off the juice was awful.  Richardson off the juice was terrible. Henry off the juice is a sluggish caveman with little durability. Many of the players coming out of there are suddenly injury magnets in the NFL. 

But they get there. 

At this point they know what they get playing for Saban.  Used up, on TV all the time, fawned over by the media and a shot at the NFL that will fizzle out when the juice remnants wear off.  They hope by that time they've made enough to live.  Like Richardson.  Worthless, but has money now. 

Finally there's the connection with the NCAA.  Saban knows where the dirt on Emmert is buried.  No way will they touch him because if they did, he'd bring the whole house down. 

We are in a non-competitive situation.  No coach, no scheme, no plan can overcome it.  Just like in the 70s, we have to wait this cheating garbage out, keep ourselves as relevant as possible and hope that there's somebody else like Pat Dye out there to crush them when Saban eventually starts to falter and the cracks begin to appear.


Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: GH2001 on November 30, 2016, 01:43:15 PM
At first it was cheating their ass off. I don't even think they have to any more. Every media outlet is an Alabama splooge-fest. I think the program is on fucking cruise control right now because they are in on every single recruit whether they want them or not.

That ^^^

No matter what it is, they are a machine. Saban has invoked fear in every damn major program. It's obvious to see.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: bgreene on November 30, 2016, 02:05:47 PM
Good analysis. 

I remember when Saban first got to Tuscaloosa.  First thing he did was run off the hangers on, and all the good old boys who hung around the program.  Really pissed off a friend of mine who'd worked for Stallings and was used to having the run of the athletic complex.  Saban told him to his face to get out and never come back unless he had a specific purpose there.  He wanted Saban fired after his first season.  Would eat the little debbie crumbs out of his turds now.  Then he got control of the booster network. Before it was a wild west show and as inept and corrupt as the war between Tony Soprano and Phil Leotardo. He took charge of that, cut off a bunch of the small fry bag men and put the whole thing in the hands of a select few.  Was able to do it because Mal Moore was old and weak by that point. He also threw a rope around the high school coaches. Hired a bunch of them and gave every single one the hope that one day they, too, could become part of the Bama staff. 

His second year, I ran into an Auburn coach who was in Fairhope doing some recruiting.  He told me that after Saban arrived, the landscape changed.  Where they'd once been able to talk to recruits and give the Auburn pitch, now every single time a kid got high on the radar somebody would appear as a go-between.  A freshly discovered "uncle."  A high school coach.  A principal.  A "family friend."   Every message was filtered through those intermediaries and there was little chance to have an honest conversation.  Each one of those people also asked for some form of quid pro quo before granting an audience with the player.  He said that Saban had found ways to skirt the rules by giving jobs and benefits to girlfriends, the kid's friends and other people around them without directly handing stuff to the players.  He also said Auburn wasn't going to do that stuff and if it meant a few years in the wilderness?  Well, that's what it was going to be.  Wasn't worth it and just not our way. 

The next thing was the steroid program.  Does anybody seriously believe that braying moron Cochran has some miracle weightlifting program that is light years above everybody else?  Does nobody pick up on the fact that the "monsters" in Turdscaloosa typically become meerkats in the NFL?  Ingram off the juice was awful.  Richardson off the juice was terrible. Henry off the juice is a sluggish caveman with little durability. Many of the players coming out of there are suddenly injury magnets in the NFL. 

But they get there. 

At this point they know what they get playing for Saban.  Used up, on TV all the time, fawned over by the media and a shot at the NFL that will fizzle out when the juice remnants wear off.  They hope by that time they've made enough to live.  Like Richardson.  Worthless, but has money now. 

Finally there's the connection with the NCAA.  Saban knows where the dirt on Emmert is buried.  No way will they touch him because if they did, he'd bring the whole house down. 

We are in a non-competitive situation.  No coach, no scheme, no plan can overcome it.  Just like in the 70s, we have to wait this cheating garbage out, keep ourselves as relevant as possible and hope that there's somebody else like Pat Dye out there to crush them when Saban eventually starts to falter and the cracks begin to appear.

And do you think Gus is that man?
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: GH2001 on November 30, 2016, 02:06:48 PM
Good analysis. 

I remember when Saban first got to Tuscaloosa.  First thing he did was run off the hangers on, and all the good old boys who hung around the program.  Really pissed off a friend of mine who'd worked for Stallings and was used to having the run of the athletic complex.  Saban told him to his face to get out and never come back unless he had a specific purpose there.  He wanted Saban fired after his first season.  Would eat the little debbie crumbs out of his turds now.  Then he got control of the booster network. Before it was a wild west show and as inept and corrupt as the war between Tony Soprano and Phil Leotardo. He took charge of that, cut off a bunch of the small fry bag men and put the whole thing in the hands of a select few.  Was able to do it because Mal Moore was old and weak by that point. He also threw a rope around the high school coaches. Hired a bunch of them and gave every single one the hope that one day they, too, could become part of the Bama staff. 

His second year, I ran into an Auburn coach who was in Fairhope doing some recruiting.  He told me that after Saban arrived, the landscape changed.  Where they'd once been able to talk to recruits and give the Auburn pitch, now every single time a kid got high on the radar somebody would appear as a go-between.  A freshly discovered "uncle."  A high school coach.  A principal.  A "family friend."   Every message was filtered through those intermediaries and there was little chance to have an honest conversation.  Each one of those people also asked for some form of quid pro quo before granting an audience with the player.  He said that Saban had found ways to skirt the rules by giving jobs and benefits to girlfriends, the kid's friends and other people around them without directly handing stuff to the players.  He also said Auburn wasn't going to do that stuff and if it meant a few years in the wilderness?  Well, that's what it was going to be.  Wasn't worth it and just not our way. 

The next thing was the steroid program.  Does anybody seriously believe that braying moron Cochran has some miracle weightlifting program that is light years above everybody else?  Does nobody pick up on the fact that the "monsters" in Turdscaloosa typically become meerkats in the NFL?  Ingram off the juice was awful.  Richardson off the juice was terrible. Henry off the juice is a sluggish caveman with little durability. Many of the players coming out of there are suddenly injury magnets in the NFL. 

But they get there. 

At this point they know what they get playing for Saban.  Used up, on TV all the time, fawned over by the media and a shot at the NFL that will fizzle out when the juice remnants wear off.  They hope by that time they've made enough to live.  Like Richardson.  Worthless, but has money now. 

Finally there's the connection with the NCAA.  Saban knows where the dirt on Emmert is buried.  No way will they touch him because if they did, he'd bring the whole house down. 

We are in a non-competitive situation.  No coach, no scheme, no plan can overcome it.  Just like in the 70s, we have to wait this cheating garbage out, keep ourselves as relevant as possible and hope that there's somebody else like Pat Dye out there to crush them when Saban eventually starts to falter and the cracks begin to appear.

Last paragraph pretty much sums it up well. Bide time. Keep program above water.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 30, 2016, 02:08:34 PM
And do you think Gus is that man?
In a word.  Hell no.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: Godfather on November 30, 2016, 02:09:36 PM
In a word.  Hell no.
That's two
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 30, 2016, 02:11:22 PM
That's two
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G52aaTFibHo
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: The Six on December 01, 2016, 09:07:35 AM
This playoff committee is just as subjective (if not more) than the old polls system. All about name branding and sizzle.Screw what happens on the field head to head unless it supports their narrative. It is ridiculous.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: GH2001 on December 01, 2016, 02:39:40 PM
This playoff committee is just as subjective (if not more) than the old polls system. All about name branding and sizzle.Screw what happens on the field head to head unless it supports their narrative. It is ridiculous.

Didn't they put fsu ahead of Louisville? Same record. Louisville destroyed them head to head. Fsu will get the better bowl.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 01, 2016, 03:24:38 PM
Didn't they put fsu ahead of Louisville? Same record. Louisville destroyed them head to head. Fsu will get the better bowl.

The talking heads on every sports show are making my head spin with all the possible scenarios after this weekend.  So, the top 4 are Bama, tOSU, Climpsum and Husky Guys.  So Michigan doesn't play in the Big 10 Championship.  UW plays Colorado in the Pac 12 finale.  Does UW have to destroy the Buffs to retain the spot because if they squeak by on a field goal, the committee may jump Michigan to 4th because they killed Colorado earlier this year. tOSU doesn't play in the championship game either.  If Sandusky U whips Badger Badger Badger, shouldn't they jump tOSU because they beat them head to head?  Or would the committee feel that the Buckeyes overall SOS far outweighs the head to head win that PSU got.  But what if Clemson....

Fuck sake, stop it!

However....isn't this the exact reason they chose to toss the BCS rating system and go with a committee?  So the college football playoffs dominate the conversation every single day?  Doesn't matter if it's fair or somebody gets jobbed.  It's the most popular thing going right now.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: wesfau2 on December 02, 2016, 08:32:52 AM


However....isn't this the exact reason they chose to toss the BCS rating system and go with a committee?  So the college football playoffs dominate the conversation every single day?  Doesn't matter if it's fair or somebody gets jobbed.  It's the most popular thing going right now.

B-I-N-G-FUCKING-O

It's broadcast fodder, creating drama to get eyes on tv sets.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: djsimp on December 02, 2016, 09:30:03 AM
B-I-N-G-FUCKING-O

It's broadcast fodder, creating drama to get eyes on tv sets.

Too bad we don't get paid for talking it up on forums. Get paid to post.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: Godfather on December 02, 2016, 12:58:31 PM
Too bad we don't get paid for talking it up on forums. Get paid to post.
You didn't get yo movie check? 







Uhhhh....see wesfau2 about that.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: djsimp on December 02, 2016, 03:54:19 PM
You didn't get yo movie check? 







Uhhhh....see wesfau2 about that.

DamnIt man, I knew there was shade tree shit goings on around here.
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: wesfau2 on December 02, 2016, 06:16:05 PM
You didn't get yo movie check? 







Uhhhh....see wesfau2 about that.


I'mmmmmm the chucklehead.?.?.?
Title: Re: College Football Playoff Poll #5...
Post by: djsimp on December 03, 2016, 01:24:29 AM
Quote from: wesfau2 link=topic=28001.mstg429598#msg429598 date=1480720565

I'mmmmmm the chucklehead.?.?.?

In a world gone mad, we will not spank the monkey, but the monkey will spank us.