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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Jumbo on September 20, 2016, 10:21:20 AM
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1. Jim Tressel
2. Art Briles
3. Chad Morris
4. Mark Hudspeth
5. Guy from last Chance U
6. Kaos with prowler as Oc
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1. Kyle Wittingham
2. Bryan Harsin
3. Jeff Brohm
4. Kaos with Prowler at OC
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I had forgotten all about Jim Tressel. He's just wasting away in DII or FwhateverS. I think I could get on board with Tressel.
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I had forgotten all about Jim Tressel. He's just wasting away in DII or FwhateverS. I think I could get on board with Tressel.
Currently the President of Youngstown State University in Youngstown, Ohio.
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What's Tommah Bowden doing these days?
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What's Tommah Bowden doing these days?
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I had forgotten all about Jim Tressel. He's just wasting away in DII or FwhateverS. I think I could get on board with Tressel.
We have a surplus of sweater vests.
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What's Tommah Bowden doing these days?
He used to spend his nights out in a bar room.
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Cool. Tressell would give us two coaches that had to go through Show Cause hearings to get back in.
Tats for everyone.
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1. Jim Tressel
2. Art Briles
3. Chad Morris
4. Mark Hudspeth
5. Guy from last Chance U
6. Kaos with prowler as Oc
Took out the non-starters, and you're left with "up and comers"...no thanks.
1. Kyle Wittingham
2. Bryan Harsin
3. Jeff Brohm
4. Kaos with Prowler at OC
Maybes...3rd tier list
Let's throw the bank at Dantonio. Make Petrino and Gary Patterson say "no," as well.
Maybe Chip Kelly is tired of the NFL (though I've spoken ill of him in the past, he'd know what to do with this roster).
Larry Fedora, sans the Chiz, might warrant a look.
Pat Narduzzi at Pitt seems to have a nice toughness to his teams.
Fuck, this is depressing.
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Took out the non-starters, and you're left with "up and comers"...no thanks.
Maybes...3rd tier list
Let's throw the bank at Dantonio. (health issues aint gonna happen, Power 5 and a hell of a lot easier schedule) Make Petrino and Gary Patterson say "no," as well. (We have said fuck you to Patterson already... Petrino maybe, should have done this 4 years ago.)
Maybe Chip Kelly is tired of the NFL (though I've spoken ill of him in the past, he'd know what to do with this roster). Fuck no, besides he is going to have to get fired 2 more times in the NFL before he is back in college.
Larry Fedora, sans the Chiz, might warrant a look. (maybe- below my "3rd tier")
Pat Narduzzi at Pitt seems to have a nice toughness to his teams. (only 2 years head coaching, would rather have Herman, below my "3rd tier")
Fuck, this is depressing.
Yes...yes it is.
Kyle Whittingham isn't 3rd tier IMHO, although I doubt his name would even be mentioned for the job. 13 years HC 98-46 at fucking Utah.
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Fuck, this is depressing.
Trapped in a revolving door it is.
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Trapped in a revolving door it is.
Whatever happened to that Boise State fucker? Did he flame out somewhere?
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Whatever happened to that Boise State fucker? Did he flame out somewhere?
Petersen is with the Washington Huskies.
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Petersen is with the Washington Huskies.
Who are suddenly good now? 3-0, Top Ten. But he's out, right?
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Who are suddenly good now? 3-0, Top Ten. But he's out, right?
Still there according to GoHuskies.com
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Y'all really have zero interest in Herman?
He's #1 with a bullet.
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Y'all really have zero interest in Herman?
He's #1 with a bullet.
Based on what? The talking heads? He has 3 more games experience then Gus Malzahn had at Arky State.
Not saying he isn't intriguing but I don't think we have a shot at him.
Every team in the country including LSU will be after him, and believe it or not Houston has some big money behind them as well, expect an all out bidding war.
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Y'all really have zero interest in Herman?
He's #1 with a bullet.
Yes but I guess that all depends on who fires and hires first. Herman will not be at Houston next season and will likely be in the SEC.
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Based on what? The talking heads? He has 3 more games experience then Gus Malzahn had at Arky State.
Not saying he isn't intriguing but I don't think we have a shot at him.
Every team in the country including LSU will be after him, and believe it or not Houston has some big money behind them as well, expect an all out bidding war.
Ed Zachary. As I said earlier, he may turn out to be the next Urban Cryer. Maybe. Maybe not. He's looked great so far but in the pump yo' brakes category...
A. ^^^No more real experience than Gus had. How many times have we harped on here about us (JJ) jumping the gun on a guy that didn't have enough experience to take over an SEC West team? Now to be fair, I think most everyone has been open about Malzahn not being choice #A. But since he's floundered the last year and a half, that's the narrative. Is Herman really ready?
2. Show of hands. How many here have down played any success Gus has had in the past due to "lucking" into QB's like Cam and Nick? Does the name Greg Ward Jr. ring a bell?
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Based on what? The talking heads? He has 3 more games experience then Gus Malzahn had at Arky State.
Not saying he isn't intriguing but I don't think we have a shot at him.
Every team in the country including LSU will be after him, and believe it or not Houston has some big money behind them as well, expect an all out bidding war.
I forgot Arkansas State went from obscurity to National Championship contenders in one year...
Last year they only dropped one game by 3 points. But also beat Louisville, Tulsa, blanked Vandy 34-0, Cincinatti, #21 Memphis, #15 Navy, #22 Temple and then #9 Florida State in the bowl game.
So far this year they unseated #3 convincingly and crushed Cincinnati 40-16.
The year before he got there they lost to Cincinatti. They also lost to the Texas San Antonio Roadrunners 27-7 and to Grambling State 47-0 among several other bad losses.
They hired him in December and they beat Pitt in their bowl game in January.
You are high off your ass if you don't think he's a significant difference maker.
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I forgot Arkansas State went from obscurity to National Championship contenders in one year...
Last year they only dropped one game by 3 points. But also beat Louisville, Tulsa, blanked Vandy 34-0, Cincinatti, #21 Memphis, #15 Navy, #22 Temple and then #9 Florida State in the bowl game.
So far this year they unseated #3 convincingly and crushed Cincinnati 40-16.
The year before he got there they lost to Cincinatti. They also lost to the Texas San Antonio Roadrunners 27-7 and to Grambling State 47-0 among several other bad losses.
They hired him in December and they beat Pitt in their bowl game in January.
You are high off your ass if you don't think he's a significant difference maker.
I don't disagree with any of that. And if we hired the guy, I'm sure I'd get on the Herman....umm....Sherman Tank (All I could think of right now). He's so hot right now. Hansel.
I'm just pointing out all the same arguments we've been using recently to imply that Gus didn't have enough experience and discredit any of his successes because he was lucky enough to have a great QB at the helm in certain seasons.
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Kevin Steele!
at least for a few months...
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I agree with getting Herman is a lot like getting Malzahn. I do not want to go down that road again.
Doesn't Petrino have a ridiculously large buyout at UofL? I think I heard that UofL put that in his contract to help him grow some roots this time.
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Found it,
Jurich said the buyout clause from Petrino's initial contract, which stated that the coach would owe the school $10 million if he left for another job, remains in place under the original terms. That buyout decreases as the years pass and will be $5 million in the final two years of the new contract, continuing what it was set to be in the sixth year of the original deal.
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I forgot Arkansas State went from obscurity to National Championship contenders in one year...
Last year they only dropped one game by 3 points. But also beat Louisville, Tulsa, blanked Vandy 34-0, Cincinatti, #21 Memphis, #15 Navy, #22 Temple and then #9 Florida State in the bowl game.
So far this year they unseated #3 convincingly and crushed Cincinnati 40-16.
The year before he got there they lost to Cincinatti. They also lost to the Texas San Antonio Roadrunners 27-7 and to Grambling State 47-0 among several other bad losses.
They hired him in December and they beat Pitt in their bowl game in January.
You are high off your ass if you don't think he's a significant difference maker.
Not saying Herman isn't better than Malzahn (in fact I'm sure he is) but Malzahn also took Auburn from 3-9 to 12-2 in one season and was 5-0 starting 2014. Not to mention that you are going to have to pay a coach with (2 years HC experience in excess of 5 million, to come to your program). It's just a big gamble brother.
Plus we have a snow balls chance in hell of getting him. It just isn't going to happen. Don't get me wrong BTW I think the chances are the same for Kyle Wittingham as well.
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I'd like to add that in reality, I still don't see the PTB firing Gus yet.....yet.
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What about Turner Gill? Chizad, weren't you on that bandwagon too?
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Since nobody has said anything, I heard Jon Gruden wants to get back into coaching. :taunt:
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Took out the non-starters, and you're left with "up and comers"...no thanks.
Maybes...3rd tier list
Let's throw the bank at Dantonio. Make Petrino and Gary Patterson say "no," as well.
Maybe Chip Kelly is tired of the NFL (though I've spoken ill of him in the past, he'd know what to do with this roster).
Larry Fedora, sans the Chiz, might warrant a look.
Pat Narduzzi at Pitt seems to have a nice toughness to his teams.
Fuck, this is depressing.
all the men you mention are worth mentioning. I say Patterson and Dantonio are worth mentioning several times.
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all the men you mention are worth mentioning. I say Patterson and Dantonio are worth mentioning several times.
Patterson and Dantonio
Patterson and Dantonio
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Patterson and Dantonio
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I still contend he's not going to be fired. Who's going to do it? The President is retiring. That takes time to fill. The AD isn't going to do it; he's made that very clear. This pointless speculation is just going to compound this board's set of coaching blue balls.
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Ok. Fine. I will take the job. I need 1/2 Malzahn's salary and a four year deal. $1 million buyout no matter when. I guarantee we wouldn't be any worse than 1-2 now.
Prowler cannot be OC. I have somebody else in mind. Guy I used to know who drew up fantastic plays in the dirt. He can be associate DC.
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Ok. Fine. I will take the job. I need 1/2 Malzahn's salary and a four year deal. $1 million buyout no matter when. I guarantee we wouldn't be any worse than 1-2 now.
Prowler cannot be OC. I have somebody else in mind. Guy I used to know who drew up fantastic plays in the dirt. He can be associate DC.
Oh please. That guy was so predictable. He was just a back yard coach running a gimmicky offense. He always threw to the bottle cap on 3rd down. Everyone caught on.
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Oh please. That guy was so predictable. He was just a back yard coach running a gimmicky offense. He always threw to the bottle cap on 3rd down. Everyone caught on.
Ha! Shows what you know. Sometimes third down was "go long." Same as Nick Marshall 2014.
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Ok. Fine. I will take the job. I need 1/2 Malzahn's salary and a four year deal. $1 million buyout no matter when. I guarantee we wouldn't be any worse than 1-2 now.
Prowler cannot be OC. I have somebody else in mind. Guy I used to know who drew up fantastic plays in the dirt. He can be associate DC.
I want to be in charge of ticket sales and maybe shadow JFIII to make sure he doesn't get into any trouble.
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I want to be in charge of ticket sales and maybe shadow JFIII to make sure he doesn't get into any trouble.
Buzz Jackson
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Ha! Shows what you know. Sometimes third down was "go long." Same as Nick Marshall 2014.
Yeah but, "go long" was always a fly pattern to the last azalea bush.
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I want to be in charge of the hydration crew and Team motivational activities.
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I want to be in charge of removing the big screen. I will sell off the parts and pieces and we go back with the old scoreboard and signs about Bo and Pat.
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I want to be in charge of "Who hates Gus the most"
I know what to look for.
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I'll take the cheerleaders and Tiger Paws.
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Kaos, we are gonna need some answers here. Who's getting what job and what's my salary looking like?
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I'll take over as AD.
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Kaos, we are gonna need some answers here. Who's getting what job and what's my salary looking like?
Salary? This is Auburn, What's my buyout?
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Salary? This is Auburn, What's my buyout?
Whoa dallas. First you got to go in and have a good season and a half with a salary, and only when you start tanking at your job will you get a raise and a buyout. GF is part of the Auburn Family, he's not going to break tradition and just start giving buyouts away like candy before you've proven yourself to be a bad coach.
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Whoa dallas. First you got to go in and have a good season and a half with a salary, and only when you start tanking at your job will you get a raise and a buyout. GF is part of the Auburn Family, he's not going to break tradition and just start giving buyouts away like candy before you've proven yourself to be a bad coach.
Not even if I don't try real, real hard?
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No, not even then. And shame on you for thinking otherwise. I'm beginning to question your true abilities as a part of this program.
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No, not even then. And shame on you for thinking otherwise. I'm beginning to question your true abilities as a part of this program.
Most folks get that before 700 posts. :haha:
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No, not even then. And shame on you for thinking otherwise. I'm beginning to question your true abilities as a part of this program.
You gotta' hate that guy.
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I will announce my staff selections in the coming days.
Sani has first dibs on tight ends.
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I will announce my staff selections in the coming days.
Sani has first dibs on tight ends.
Not campaigning here or anything, but my first act as Offensive Coordinator will be to find the page with the twirlybird play on it and rip it the fuck up.
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Not campaigning here or anything, but my first act as Offensive Coordinator will be to find the page with the twirlybird play on it and rip it the fuck up.
I had a play in intramural football one time in which everyone but two guys laid down and started screaming and flopping around as a distraction. Then the other 2 guys would take off on 2 long routes.
You can borrow it if you want.
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Not campaigning here or anything, but my first act as Offensive Coordinator will be to find the page with the twirlybird play on it and rip it the fuck up.
Well, will we be able to recruit fullbacks then?
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Not campaigning here or anything, but my first act as Offensive Coordinator will be to find the page with the twirlybird play on it and rip it the fudge up.
Well it's official, Buzz isn't qualified for the job.
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Based on what? The talking heads? He has 3 more games experience then Gus Malzahn had at Arky State.
Not saying he isn't intriguing but I don't think we have a shot at him.
Every team in the country including LSU will be after him, and believe it or not Houston has some big money behind them as well, expect an all out bidding war.
And has beaten more top 25 teams the last two years...with half the talent.
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I don't disagree with any of that. And if we hired the guy, I'm sure I'd get on the Herman....umm....Sherman Tank (All I could think of right now). He's so hot right now. Hansel.
I'm just pointing out all the same arguments we've been using recently to imply that Gus didn't have enough experience and discredit any of his successes because he was lucky enough to have a great QB at the helm in certain seasons.
Not even close head bobbing creeper carer. Resumes aren't close at this stage as far as quality wins and progress at the program.
Gus was left with a pretty decent Arky State program from another guy who is a pretty good coach. As Chizad stated, Herman has taken them from a 2/3 to a 9/10 in 1-2 years. Malzahn maintained the status quo at ASU and left. This is an apples and oranges argument.
There is nothing that guarantees Herman is a slam dunk but he is a hotter commodity than Gus was at ASU. Also remember what he did before becoming HC - won the Broyles and led tOSU's O to a Natty while making do with TWO backup Qbs against mighty Sabenz. Hell yes.
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I'd like to add that in reality, I still don't see the PTB firing Gus yet.....yet.
And then there is that.....this will be an expensive fire if it happens. Fans always use blank imaginary checks when making predictions.
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Not even close head bobbing creeper carer. Resumes aren't close at this stage as far as quality wins and progress at the program.
Gus was left with a pretty decent Arky State program from another guy who is a pretty good coach. As Chizad stated, Herman has taken them from a 2/3 to a 9/10 in 1-2 years. Malzahn maintained the status quo at ASU and left. This is an apples and oranges argument.
There is nothing that guarantees Herman is a slam dunk but he is a hotter commodity than Gus was at ASU. Also remember what he did before becoming HC - won the Broyles and led tOSU's O to a Natty while making do with TWO backup Qbs against mighty Sabenz. Hell yes.
Aren't even close? Now you listen up there, Triathlon Boy. Gus had a MNC title under his belt and won 10 games at ASU. How much more could he improve? And those back ups at tOSU weren't exactly Kadreel Frazha and Fetal Mosely. That was a roster of Sabenz level talent, top to bottom. Oh, and Gus too, won the Broyles award. I'll give people Oklahoma and FSU on Herman's resume. (How's things been working out lately for those 2) But please stop using the term "Quality win" when referring to Memphis, Cincinnati, Tulsa, Navy, Temple etc. The American Athletic Conference..home of the lowest tier 3* player. Not that hard when you inherit one of the most dynamic playmakers in the country.
And Mods: Please delete all arguments stating the total sum of Malzahn's success being due solely to lucking into 2 of the most dynamic playmakers in the country.
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And then there is that.....this will be an expensive fire if it happens. Fans always use blank imaginary checks when making predictions.
We as fans have to do our part.
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Patterson and Dantonio
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Patterson and Dantonio
His name is Robert Paulson.
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And has beaten more top 25 teams the last two years...with half the talent.
I like Herman, I wouldn't be upset if we were to hire Herman. However my point still stands I believe you are going to have to pay a guy that has 2 years HC experience excess of 5 million a year to coach. It's a big risk IMO.
The end of the day it isn't up to any of us and JJ would probably hire Paul Petrino, "What you guys said you wanted Petrino? This is on you fans!"
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I like Herman, I wouldn't be upset if we were to hire Herman. However my point still stands I believe you are going to have to pay a guy that has 2 years HC experience excess of 5 million a year to coach. It's a big risk IMO.
The end of the day it isn't up to any of us and JJ would probably hire Paul Petrino, "What you guys said you wanted Petrino? This is on you fans!"
Right now we are paying someone 4 million who is not coaching.
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It doesn't matter much about Saturday when we are talking long term or prolonging the inevitable. Money is always a huge issue but stringing this out will not cure our offensive woes or win any for the Gipper.
I say we go Arkansas circa BFP and name mainstay staff member, recruiter and non-impressive D-line Coach Rodney Garner as interim HC...get down on the wheel for potential candidates ahead of the competition. This has a freezing effect on recruiting to a degree and minimizes defections from the current roster while signaling to everyone that Auburn is dead serious about winning and you might want to consider who we might hire before bolting to a non Power 5 school or being shelved because your skillset doesn't mesh with a coaching philosophy.
And look, none of us want JJ anyway near this but the guy IS NOT LEAVING. Does he make the hire himself? Does he do the ceremonial Bo, Sully, Mac thing again?
IDK, they may tell him to go fuck himself but at least we have an outside chance at getting a solid hc that is far more consistent instead of a coordinator that is rattled that doesn't trust his own judgement. That triad of Malzahn, Lashlee and now Hand just isn't producing any points and will soon be a detriment to Steel's hard work.
All I'm saying is let's not waste anymore time and take a restart with some face saving and some hope. Good God how long has it been since we won a winnable home game against an SEC team and will it mean any more coming against Miles or Mullen after what we have witnessed recently. We are an embarrassment offensively. Doug Barfield could pile up points with this talent. We lacked depth back then on both sides of the ball and only a few would start on the better teams but at least he produced up to our total team potential. And he wasn't the recipient of a well stocked roster to have a leg-up.
No I don't want anything less than a great hc.
No I don't want an up and comer with little experience.
No I don't want anybody with baggage or questionable ethics.
What I want is a guy who can deliver wins and be consistent, one that recruits well, develops talent and runs a tight ship.
We know what anyone thrown in a hat is up against in this league, IN THIS STATE.
But the bottom line is...win this state and you should have a contender. The guy up the road might hang in there a few more years but they will not be the brunt of jokes when he walks away from football. And if we don't act now and responsibly we might not have a better opportunity to even draw even again, or even pull one out every four or five years.
Who knows, maybe we find the right man.
All I know is, or feel in my heart of hearts, is that this isn't the answer, it hasn't been and it looks as it will continue.
It's not personal, it's football, and we want a winner.
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I just received word that I'll have $200,000 budget for vehicles and I know where I can get a deal on 2017 chargers.
Where do I sign?
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I just received word that I'll have $200,000 budget for vehicles and I know where I can get a deal on 2017 chargers.
Where do I sign?
Oh it's not about mere Chargers anymore. It's about stock in the car company. And this is the place to start your future in po- poin' young man. You made the right choice Roll Tide!
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I like Herman, I wouldn't be upset if we were to hire Herman. However my point still stands I believe you are going to have to pay a guy that has 2 years HC experience excess of 5 million a year to coach. It's a big risk IMO.
The end of the day it isn't up to any of us and JJ would probably hire Paul Petrino, "What you guys said you wanted Petrino? This is on you fans!"
We don't have the AD to hire him anyway. Want him, yes. Would we get him? Pfffttt
Besides its an expense move at this point with both buyouts.