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Title: All the same old cliches...
Post by: wesfau2 on September 07, 2016, 08:44:10 AM
Is that a woman or a man?

Time to turn the page on week 1.  Whether your sky is falling or you're encouraged by the non-blowout loss to #2, we've got a new opponent looming. 

Reading Gus's comments, he's made it clear that JJ is #3...and hopefully will spend his time exclusively on the sideline for the remainder of the season.  Not because I don't like JJ or think that he is the sole reason for our offensive woes, but because it means that Gus has (for really reals this time) picked a #1 and (a few MC snaps to JF3 aside) Sean should be seeing the lion's share of our offensive snaps.

I saw a lot to like from the receivers (when they were given a chance, read: not lined up at RB) and, obviously, the defense.  Let's use Saturday to establish the run.  We ought to be able to lean on ASU for 4 quarters and grind yardage with Pettway/KJ.

Getting a running game established will help Sean and the new WR corps get in a rhythm in the friendly confines of JHS before the October road show.

What about ASU?  I don't know much except that Trooper is coaching their DBs and his kid (Blaise?) returns kicks, I think.  Toledo pounded them...but Toledo also beat Arkansas last year.  What does that mean?  Fuck if I know.

Maybe I'm Charlie Brown and Gus is going to pull that ball away at the last second again, but fuck it: I had Clemson chalked up as a loss before the season started and I still think there's plenty of talent on this team to win 9.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: ssgaufan on September 07, 2016, 09:41:26 AM
I'd like to see Kam Martin get some carries as well.  Wasn't he one of the top RB's in the country coming out of HS?
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 07, 2016, 10:10:30 AM
Even if it takes a quarter or so and looks boring, I want to see our line get the chance to get in a rhythm and grind out some drives.  I have a feeling that's going to be the case.  I can see a few 3 and outs and the natives getting restless but our D should be able to hold off ASU while we get some things established.  No cutesy super spin moves, wide receiver runs or triple fakey reverse play action passes.  Just ground and pound and pop some quick passes.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Saniflush on September 07, 2016, 10:11:07 AM
And when the fuck did the back up walk on kicker start catching passes?  I think we just found our Hicks Poor.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 07, 2016, 11:03:47 AM
I'd like to see Kam Martin get some carries as well.  Wasn't he one of the top RB's in the country coming out of HS?


Prolly why you won't see him.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Godfather on September 07, 2016, 11:10:43 AM
I still think there's plenty of talent on this team to win 9.

I actually see more wins and unlimited potential if Gus gets out of his own way.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 07, 2016, 11:16:46 AM
And when the fudge did the back up walk on kicker start catching passes?  I think we just found our Hicks Poor.
I told y'all to remember his name.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 07, 2016, 11:48:35 AM
Cliché:  The future is bright....IF we get some goot corchin'.  From Auburntigers.com

Here are the 17 players who made their Auburn debut

True freshmen: Marlon Davidson, Nate Craig-Myers, Derrick Brown, Kyle Davis, John Broussard Jr. and Tre' Threat.

Redshirt freshmen: Darius Slayton, Javaris Davis, Mike Horton, Tyler Carr and Griffin King.

Sophomore: Markell Boston

Senior: Greg Hall Jr.

Transfers: Paul James III, Darius James, T.J. Neal and John Franklin III.

Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Godfather on September 07, 2016, 12:32:47 PM
Transfers: Paul James III, Darius James, T.J. Neal and John Franklin III.
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Fuck you man!

Signed,
TJ
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 07, 2016, 12:36:48 PM


Maybe I'm Charlie Brown and Gus is going to pull that ball away at the last second again, but fuck it: I had Clemson chalked up as a loss before the season started and I still think there's plenty of talent on this team to win 9.

Outside of one or two offensive linemen, we have the talent to win 11.

But if Gus continues this trend of sticking his head straight up his ass when planning and calling the offense, we'll be lucky to win 6.

The fact that we are even having these conversations in year four of a tenure that has had incredible recruiting classes is enough to warrant a coaching search.

Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 07, 2016, 12:39:58 PM
'
Fuck you man!

Signed,
TJ

His account was hacked.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: CCTAU on September 07, 2016, 12:50:58 PM
Cliché:  The future is bright....IF we get some goot corchin'.  From Auburntigers.com

Here are the 17 players who made their Auburn debut

True freshmen: Marlon Davidson, Nate Craig-Myers, Derrick Brown, Kyle Davis, John Broussard Jr. and Tre' Threat.

Redshirt freshmen: Darius Slayton, Javaris Davis, Mike Horton, Tyler Carr and Griffin King.

Sophomore: Markell Boston

Senior: Greg Hall Jr.

Transfers: Paul James III, Darius James, T.J. Neal and John Franklin III.

Will Hastings would like to have a word with thee!
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 07, 2016, 02:47:50 PM
Will Hastings would like to have a word with thee!

Troof.  When I was giving some tidbits, observations and various nuggets of wisdom from the practice I went to, I said the best receiver on the field (They didn't play the starters much) was a little 5'9" white kid named James Owens Moss.  He and Hastings are almost identical in size.  Moss was #35 and Hastings is #33.  I'm wondering if I just looked at the number wrong.  I did just have another burfday and my eyesight ain't what it used to be.

And get the hell off my lawn.   
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Godfather on September 07, 2016, 02:54:59 PM
Troof.  When I was giving some tidbits, observations and various nuggets of wisdom from the practice I went to, I said the best receiver on the field (They didn't play the starters much) was a little 5'9" white kid named James Owens Moss.  He and Hastings are almost identical in size.  Moss was #35 and Hastings is #33.  I'm wondering if I just looked at the number wrong.  I did just have another burfday and my eyesight ain't what it used to be.

And get the hell off my lawn.

This is true

































he is old.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 07, 2016, 03:29:53 PM
Troof.  When I was giving some tidbits, observations and various nuggets of wisdom from the practice I went to, I said the best receiver on the field (They didn't play the starters much) was a little 5'9" white kid named James Owens Moss.  He and Hastings are almost identical in size.  Moss was #35 and Hastings is #33.  I'm wondering if I just looked at the number wrong.  I did just have another burfday and my eyesight ain't what it used to be.

And get the hell off my lawn.


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Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 07, 2016, 03:58:36 PM
This is true

































he is old.

Why are you still on my lawn?
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: djsimp on September 07, 2016, 04:06:49 PM
Is that a woman or a man?
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 07, 2016, 04:10:06 PM
Is that a woman or a man?
The preferred term is Zhe
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: djsimp on September 07, 2016, 04:16:48 PM
The preferred term is Zhe

And you always seem outnumbered
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: oldautiger on September 07, 2016, 07:59:10 PM
And you always seem outnumbered
You don't dare make a stand
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 07, 2016, 08:06:38 PM
Here I am, on the road again
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: CCTAU on September 07, 2016, 11:44:20 PM
Here I am, on the road again

What? You couldn't be laid up in a hospital close to home?
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Kaos on September 08, 2016, 07:48:16 AM
What? You couldn't be laid up in a hospital close to home?

A million miles away from the format.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 08, 2016, 09:51:29 AM
A million miles away from the format.

What does Lenny Kravitz have to do with any of this?
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: djsimp on September 08, 2016, 09:55:09 AM
A million miles away from the format.

Every ounce of energy he is trying to give away.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 08, 2016, 03:41:05 PM
What? You couldn't be laid up in a hospital close to home?
I have been out of the hospital for 6 days.

It is nice to pee in a toilet again.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: CCTAU on September 08, 2016, 03:46:20 PM
I have been out of the hospital for 6 days.

It is nice to pee in a toilet again.

Can you hit the cheerios?
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: wesfau2 on September 12, 2016, 10:07:53 AM
I saw a lot to like from the receivers (when they were given a chance, read: not lined up at RB) and, obviously, the defense.  Let's use Saturday to establish the run.  We ought to be able to lean on ASU for 4 quarters and grind yardage with Pettway/KJ.

Getting a running game established will help Sean and the new WR corps get in a rhythm in the friendly confines of JHS before the October road show.


Nostra.
Fucking.
Dumbass.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: CCTAU on September 12, 2016, 11:54:45 AM
Nostra.
Fucking.
Dumbass.

Actual!y the first play was a pass. So maybe we got the passing game established and the running game worked.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: jmar on September 12, 2016, 12:13:27 PM
Actual!y the first play was a pass. So maybe we got the passing game established and the running game worked.
Off the top of my head I'm gonna say it was to Marcus Davis for a four yard gain.
Tell me what I won.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: wesfau2 on September 12, 2016, 01:40:42 PM
Off the top of my head I'm gonna say it was to Marcus Davis for a four yard gain.
Tell me what I won.

Was actually a Tony Stevens catch...14 yards or so.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: jmar on September 12, 2016, 02:01:16 PM
Was actually a Tony Stevens catch...14 yards or so.
Can I be invited back? I so like to play trivia with very smart people.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: The Six on September 12, 2016, 02:06:28 PM
Can I be invited back? I so like to play trivia with very smart people.

Do you like movies about gladiators?
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: jmar on September 12, 2016, 02:11:23 PM
Do you like movies about gladiators?
Actually no, I saw Spartacus around 27 times. But I like movies about aviators.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: JR4AU on September 14, 2016, 08:40:29 AM
Outside of one or two offensive linemen, we have the talent to win 11.

But if Gus continues this trend of sticking his head straight up his ass when planning and calling the offense, we'll be lucky to win 6.

The fact that we are even having these conversations in year four of a tenure that has had incredible recruiting classes is enough to warrant a coaching search.


I read from time to time.  I have not posted in a while.  THS is pretty much spot on IMHO.  I said to a couple of my buds pre-season that I think this is Gus' last season.  I think Gus is an OK coach, but he has major weaknesses. 

Talent, we do have some, but are missing some key components...ie a great QB, and a great Left Tackle.  There's few on this team that wow you at all, but it's not devoid of talent, just seems to be devoid of game changing talent.

The good: He does win when has has talent.  Some coaches can't even manage this.  That said, some of his talented teams under-perform.  This can be said of any coach really, but most great coaches manage to win even when under-performing.  Great coaches manage to make average teams look better than average, and get the most from them.  Gus wins when he has the better team more often than not, but looks silly and in above his head when he doesn't have the talent.  He understands offense (Clemson game be damned...please read on and don't focus on that one line).  He's a good teacher, and that's the biggest part of coaching, but not all there is at this level. 

The bad: You saw it vs Clemson.  His ego gets in the way.  He knows he doesn't have world beater talent, and he is lacking at the QB position, but White should be enough, so rather than try to work with that, he got cute and came up with a game plan that can only be described as "What the fuck?"  :facepalm: Cuteness, tricks, QB changes...all made him look stupid...beyond stupid, with some crazy mixed in.  Compound that with what we saw vs ASU, and you see he missed the boat on what he really has to work with at QB and RB.  We have enough to win...11 maybe?  We have the defense to win games IF...IF Gus will run the ball, throw play action pass, and shorten games.  Give the defense a chance to carry us, and not put them on the field constantly with 3 trick plays and out.  Run the ball.  People might complain that it looks boring at times, but we can win games running and playing defense with what we have, but Gus has to put aside SOME of what he does...he doesn't have to completely change his stripes, but he has to reach in to his tool box and find the right tools, and he has to understand his personnel better.  OL is not a strength though they are not horrid across the board.  As a unit, probably the weakest on the team really, but they show signs of being serviceable.  Gus apparently doesn't handle average talent well.  He doesn't handle not having a QB that just screams "I'm the guy" with his performance.  I get THINKING JJ was the guy...he looks the part...he's a bust, and that's been clear to all but Gus...til now?  I get bringing in JF3...he has some athleticism.  He probably should have a small roll on this team...instead of the wildcat...he could be a nice change of pace with some option and a vague threat to throw.  The wildcat, as a package...if you have an entire series built on it...can work...it's not working for us the way it's being used...way, WAY too predictable.  Sean White, serviceable, accurate, and takes care of the ball.  THIS should have been the default for a guy that thought he had a defense.  Not flashy, but can get it done with a defense and running game.  It bothers me that he continues to look at all other options when it's clear White is the best he's got, AND he's good enough! 

Anyway...I'm somewhat encouraged, not so much by the win over ASU, but by the changes I saw in Gus' DNA...or was it just window dressing...will he revert to the old tricks at the first sign of adversity.

Always liked Gus as a man, and even as a coach, but there's much more to it at this level than having tricky offensive plays, and right now (last season, and game one this year) he's not showing he can handle it, though he maybe he's willing to change...

Happy football season, and War Eagle. 

Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Godfather on September 14, 2016, 09:56:56 AM
With great coach, comes great responsibility.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Jumbo on September 14, 2016, 10:31:57 AM
The sign says you've got to have a membership card to get inside.
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: wesfau2 on September 14, 2016, 10:40:04 AM
The sign says you've got to have a membership card to get inside.

I got me a pen and a paper
and I made up my own fuckin' sign
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: GH2001 on September 14, 2016, 01:40:48 PM
I got me a pen and a paper
and I made up my own fuckin' sign

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Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: bgreene on September 14, 2016, 02:07:23 PM
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Man you some kinda sinner
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 14, 2016, 02:08:58 PM
Man you some kinda sinner

Hey, what gives you the right?
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 14, 2016, 02:19:30 PM
Long haired, freaky people need not apply
Title: Re: All the same old cliches...
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 14, 2016, 02:26:56 PM
Your scroll thingy is blocking out the scenery.