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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: Jumbo on June 04, 2016, 04:15:24 AM
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Cassius Clay passed away....float like a butterfly sting like a bee.
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Great fighter, extremely charismatic.
And a Muslim. And an agitator. Anti American. No hero.
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"It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound sand. I beat people up."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejE-Do9PeJw
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Great fighter, extremely charismatic.
And a Muslim. And an agitator. Anti American. No hero.
Ridiculous, per the usual lately.
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I'm older (Obviously) so I do remember much of Ali in his prime. He was extremely polarizing and I look back on his career now with a lot more respect for what he did/was doing than I did back then. I think I read somewhere that he fashioned his persona after Pro Wrestler, Gorgeous George. The heavyweight class back in his prime was unbelievably good and boxing, heavyweight boxing in particular, was as popular as any sport going. But nobody in boxing came out with the brash talking, self-confidence of Ali. That just didn't happen. Again, it was so polarizing but he knew exactly what he was doing. And it was brilliant.
In one sense, he was the Tiger Woods of his time. Boxing was extremely popular, but Ali took the sport, and his brand, to a world-wide level of appeal. He was THE most recognizable sports figure, if not public figure, of his time. Woods, in the post Nicklaus, Palmer, Trevino era, took golf to that level and just about every guy on tour today knows what he did for the sport. Just as the boxers of that time period know full well what Ali did for their sport and the $$$ they were able to bank because of him.
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Ridiculous, per the usual lately.
You weren't alive then.
Your point of view is invalid.
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Great fighter, extremely charismatic.
And a Muslim. And an agitator. Anti American. No hero.
^^This.
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I'm older (Obviously) so I do remember much of Ali in his prime. He was extremely polarizing and I look back on his career now with a lot more respect for what he did/was doing than I did back then. I think I read somewhere that he fashioned his persona after Pro Wrestler, Gorgeous George. The heavyweight class back in his prime was unbelievably good and boxing, heavyweight boxing in particular, was as popular as any sport going. But nobody in boxing came out with the brash talking, self-confidence of Ali. That just didn't happen. Again, it was so polarizing but he knew exactly what he was doing. And it was brilliant.
In one sense, he was the Tiger Woods of his time. Boxing was extremely popular, but Ali took the sport, and his brand, to a world-wide level of appeal. He was THE most recognizable sports figure, if not public figure, of his time. Woods, in the post Nicklaus, Palmer, Trevino era, took golf to that level and just about every guy on tour today knows what he did for the sport. Just as the boxers of that time period know full well what Ali did for their sport and the $$$ they were able to bank because of him.
TL;DR. But you ain't never met no Cassius Clay.
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TL;DR. But you ain't never met no Cassius Clay.
No, but I met Martin Luther The King.
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He may have been the greatest, but he never had kitchen appliances named after him.
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He may have been the greatest, but he never had kitchen appliances named after him.
Foreman and Frazier.
True Americans. Ali? No. He refused to fight for the country. He joined with militant Islam and the white hating racist fuck Malcom X.
There was nothing heroic or admirable about his actions.
Great fighter. Entertaining. Lightning quick hands. Graceful style. Enjoyed his fights in the day. Still mesmerized by his command of the ring. But I also enjoy watching him get the shit knocked out of him. Frazier whipping his ass is among my favorite bouts ever.
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You weren't alive then.
Your point of view is invalid.
O.
K.
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Ridiculous, per the usual lately.
Say what you want, but you know good and well that the NoI is pretty anti white, anti American. Go watch many of his comments at the time about the white slave masters and all of the other anti whatever rhetoric.
Agree with K, in that he was a special special fighter and very charismatic. He is a special figure in American pop culture much like Elvis, mj and others. But he is no American hero. Joe Frazier, Jesse Owens, Joe Louis are all much more admirable. Owens (one of our own in this state) went over to Germany and stared down the barrel of a nazi monster and beat him without batting an eye. That is a hero.
I just wish Frazier and foreman had figured out Ali's rope a dope gimmick in fight instead of falling right in the trap. Those two along with Liston and Holmes were actually better punchers than Ali. He just knew how to play the game in ring masterfully.
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Say what you want, but you know good and well that the NoI is pretty anti white, anti American. Go watch many of his comments at the time about the white slave masters and all of the other anti whatever rhetoric.
Agree with K, in that he was a special special fighter and very charismatic. He is a special figure in American pop culture much like Elvis, mj and others. But he is no American hero. Joe Frazier, Jesse Owens, Joe Louis are all much more admirable. Owens (one of our own in this state) went over to Germany and stared down the barrel of a nazi monster and beat him without batting an eye. That is a hero.
I just wish Frazier and foreman had figured out Ali's rope a dope gimmick in fight instead of falling right in the trap. Those two along with Liston and Holmes were actually better punchers than Ali. He just knew how to play the game in ring masterfully.
I'm familiar with his stances and speeches.
Also, I find it endlessly amusing that a guy who calls himself "Kaos" and is rooting for the political apocalypse is upset that Ali was an "agitator."
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I'm familiar with his stances and speeches.
Also, I find it endlessly amusing that a guy who calls himself "Kaos" and is rooting for the political apocalypse is upset that Ali was an "agitator."
"Kaos" is really an homage to a TV show I used to watch with my dad years ago. Get Smart.
(http://www.myneatstuff.ca/store/img/getsmart/siegfried2.jpg)
A lot of the stuff I use... Planet of the Apes references, Batman references, Star Trek references, for instance... tie back to the TV shows and movies my dad and I watched when I was three, four and five years old. Same with Jungle Book.
My life can be chaotic, I admit that. But I prefer stability. I do believe that strength rises from conflict, I think that legitimate debate leads to a better resolution. Some of the best things this country has to offer came from heated, passionate disagreement and compromise. Sometimes you have to upset the applecart to get better apples.
I'm hardly rooting for political apocalypse. Quite the opposite. I'd like a government that is dedicated to the greater good of the people it purports to serve. I want government by, for and of the people. We're not going to get there with a same-old-shrew like Hillary. "Politician" was never intended to be a career. It was supposed to be a temporary honor. I'd almost rather elected officials be replaced by a lottery drawing. Short terms, anyone can serve if their name is called. But I'm not agitating for that. I'd like the system we have to solve itself. And again, it can't do that if we keep putting the same kind of loathsome creeps in office. Like her.
I don't think we should ever elect a president who's never held a real job (Obama, Hillary...), who's never had to survive on his/her own merits and earnings (Obama, Hillary).
We're making horrific mistakes putting people like this in charge of diplomacy. They've never negotiated anything and live under the utopian fantasy that discussion can solve all problems. It won't when the people you're talking to are completely committed to killing you.
We're failing by putting them in charge of the military. There have never been two people less fit to lead the military than Hitlary and Obama.
We're failing by putting them in charge of the economy. When you've never had to make your own way? When you claim to be "dead broke" when you're commanding $250,000 speaking fees? You don't have any clue how people survive or what it takes to truly improve their lives. I remember watching The View once where they were talking about policies to help the lower-middle classes. Babwa Wawas made the offhand comment "Nobody's living on less than $100,000 a year, are they?" And the dumb bitch being completely aghast that it was even possible. That's Hillary. That's Obama. You can say that's Trump, too, but he's at least had to manage a budget and make financial decisions that could impact his life. He's had to hire people and fire them. He understands the economy of building things.
Anyway, long answer. You don't get me at all.
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I'm familiar with his stances and speeches.
Did you see them on The Daily Show or on Last Week Tonight?
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Did you see them on The Daily Show or on Last Week Tonight?
I only watch The View.
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I only watch The View.
(http://i.imgur.com/BqHwppb.gif)
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I only watch The View.
You quit the gay porn? Even when Chizzy is in town?
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I guess this guy will never get to kiss Ali in the lips after all of the years he kissed his ass.
https://youtu.be/2KbMkzs9gQA
#winning
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You quit the gay porn? Even when Chizzy is in town?
You seen that bear-alicious hunk? Chiz IS the porn.
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You seen that bear-alicious hunk? Chiz IS the porn.
He's no Evan
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He's no Evan
Does he wear an eye patch for the full effect?