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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: CCTAU on February 22, 2016, 12:46:34 PM
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I have a quershion.
I have a friend on the Henry County PD. They are transitioning from the Glock .40 to the 9mm. Gonna use a hollow point plus p 124 grain round. Said they were shown a video with the two using the same grain bullet and the expansion was the same.
If you carry the .40, would you not use a bit heavier round, therefore creating more penetration by virtue of weight? this would make the comparison invalid, no?
The other reason was that .40 ammo was not as easily available.
What type service weapon do most of you carry? And if it was open selection, which would be your personal choice?
I'm a .45 ACP guy. But I don't carry for a living.
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i don't carry.
guns kill people and animals.
peace.
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i don't carry.
guns kill people and animals.
peace.
And trees. Guns kill trees. Don't they?
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And trees. Guns kill trees. Don't they?
You serious, Clark?
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A man asks a serious quershun and all he gets is static from the peanut gallery....
Sheesh. Take your pepper spray and move on!
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A man asks a serious quershun and all he gets is static from the peanut gallery....
Sheesh. Take your pepper spray and move on!
I typically carry a Hattori Hanzo sword and a bullwhip. Haven't needed much else.
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A man asks a serious quershun and all he gets is static from the peanut gallery....
Sheesh. Take your pepper spray and move on!
my pepper spray is GMO Free Certified as well as organic.
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my pepper spray is GMO Free Certified as well as organic.
Yeah but is it gluten free?
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Yeah but is it gluten free?
no...can't take a chance.
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DAMMIT!
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.45 for me
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this thread was a misfire.
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In short, the damage a .40 does compared to a 9mm is negligible. It makes more sense to carry a 9mm for less recoil, shooting faster, and the ability to carry more bullets.
With the way technology has advanced and 9mm has become a hotter load I don't see a need to carry a .40.
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I have a quershion.
I have a friend on the Henry County PD. They are transitioning from the Glock .40 to the 9mm. Gonna use a hollow point plus p 124 grain round. Said they were shown a video with the two using the same grain bullet and the expansion was the same.
If you carry the .40, would you not use a bit heavier round, therefore creating more penetration by virtue of weight? this would make the comparison invalid, no?
The other reason was that .40 ammo was not as easily available.
What type service weapon do most of you carry? And if it was open selection, which would be your personal choice?
I'm a .45 ACP guy. But I don't carry for a living.
I carry an issued .40 Glock 22 for service and .40 Glock 27 as backup. Most agencies went away from 9mm back in the 80s after the FBI ran a study and basically called them useless after a few of their agents were killed in a serious shootout. There have been more recent studies to suggest they are just as effective, but you'll see a slow push, if any, for LEO agencies moving back to 9mm. Basically the reason why is simple. Working for a Sheriff, if I respond to a local agency in a shooting situation, our magazines are interchangeable. Instead of trying to reload mags in a shooting situation, simply grab one of theirs and stay in fight.
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In short, the damage a .40 does compared to a 9mm is negligible. It makes more sense to carry a 9mm for less recoil, shooting faster, and the ability to carry more bullets.
With the way technology has advanced and 9mm has become a hotter load I don't see a need to carry a .40.
The 9mm is already loaded at full capacity from a powder standpoint. So how did it get hotter?
I figure you are talking about +P. But that has been around a long time.
And in truth, it is about the bullet you are allowed to use. IMO, 9mm FMJ(NATO) is a useless round in a combat setting. Might as well have a .38!
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I carry an issued .40 Glock 22 for service and .40 Glock 27 as backup. Most agencies went away from 9mm back in the 80s after the FBI ran a study and basically called them useless after a few of their agents were killed in a serious shootout. There have been more recent studies to suggest they are just as effective, but you'll see a slow push, if any, for LEO agencies moving back to 9mm. Basically the reason why is simple. Working for a Sheriff, if I respond to a local agency in a shooting situation, our magazines are interchangeable. Instead of trying to reload mags in a shooting situation, simply grab one of theirs and stay in fight.
You didn't say what your personal preference would be, if given the choice.
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I carry an issued .40 Glock 22 for service and .40 Glock 27 as backup. Most agencies went away from 9mm back in the 80s after the FBI ran a study and basically called them useless after a few of their agents were killed in a serious shootout. There have been more recent studies to suggest they are just as effective, but you'll see a slow push, if any, for LEO agencies moving back to 9mm. Basically the reason why is simple. Working for a Sheriff, if I respond to a local agency in a shooting situation, our magazines are interchangeable. Instead of trying to reload mags in a shooting situation, simply grab one of theirs and stay in fight.
What caliber do you use as your plant gun, to place next to the body of an unarmed threat? I would assume 25's and 22's are cheap. Are these department issued? Do they come by the box?
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Yeah.
.40, .41. Whatever it takes.
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Yeah.
.40, .41. Whatever it takes.
You want a beer?
It's 7 a.m.
Scotch?
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You didn't say what your personal preference would be, if given the choice.
Kimber 1911
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What caliber do you use as your plant gun, to place next to the body of an unarmed threat? I would assume 25's and 22's are cheap. Are these department issued? Do they come by the box?
Easy choice, Hi Point 9mm.
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Easy choice, Hi Point 9mm.
Good choice. Cheap, reliable, and looks really scary when aimed sideways. A very believable plant!
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Kimber 1911
Damn. And I took you for the cheap whore type!
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The 9mm is already loaded at full capacity from a powder standpoint. So how did it get hotter?
I figure you are talking about +P. But that has been around a long time.
And in truth, it is about the bullet you are allowed to use. IMO, 9mm FMJ(NATO) is a useless round in a combat setting. Might as well have a .38!
I disagree...A double tap to the chest and a failure to stop to the head works as well with any caliber.
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Damn. And I took you for the cheap whore type!
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He just likes that it says Crimson on it. Turd
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I disagree...A double tap to the chest and a failure to stop to the head works as well with any caliber.
Many soldiers would disagree with you.
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Many soldiers would disagree with you.
There's the problem....Soldiers probably would. They should be taught how to first.
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Glock 21 on duty .45, Glock 22 off duty .40
As for the grain amount and all that jazz, "I don't know what you call it, I just know the sound when it takes a man's life."
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Glock 21 on duty .45, Glock 22 off duty .40
As for the grain amount and all that jazz, "I don't know what you call it, I just know the sound when it takes a man's life."
Welcome. Post often. Prayers sent.
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Glock 21 on duty .45, Glock 22 off duty .40
As for the grain amount and all that jazz, "I don't know what you call it, I just know the sound when it takes a man's life."
bgreene!!! What's shakin' brother.
There were rumors of you getting pissed off and leaving. And one about you and smoothie getting legally married.
Anywho, welcome back!
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bgreene!!! What's shakin' brother.
There were rumors of you getting pissed off and leaving. And one about you and smoothie getting legally married.
Anywho, welcome back!
Sorry boys, just a leave of absence for some personal reasons. But I'm back.
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Glock 21 on duty .45, Glock 22 off duty .40
As for the grain amount and all that jazz, "I don't know what you call it, I just know the sound when it takes a man's life."
Are those dept. issue?
It's rare to see a .45 on a LEO.
Most depts seem to prefer smaller.
Grain is just a weight. 1 gn = 0.00228571 oz.
In perspective, I use 3.8 gns of Bullseye to push my 185 gn semi wad cutter out of my .45.
A normal .45 is about 230 gns.
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As for the grain amount and all that jazz, "I don't know what you call it, I just know the sound when it takes a man's life."
Oh my damn. Oh my damn.
Wasn't that it?