Tigers X - Number one Source to Talk Auburn Tigers Sports

Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: AUownsU on October 24, 2015, 08:36:43 PM

Title: Sean White
Post by: AUownsU on October 24, 2015, 08:36:43 PM
Go ahead and cut to the chase. Do you think we can win a championship with him at QB? Most seem to think he can do it but there are some who are convinced Auburn needs dual threat QB. Honestly, I think  this guy might turn out to be better QB than snowboarder and he's a damn good snowboarder. Most accurate freshman QB at Auburn this 37 year old can remember. Wouldn't surprise me a bit to see him to lead Auburn to a win in any of our remaining games. Depending on if we can catch the ball and Carl Lawson returns of course.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: The Prowler on October 24, 2015, 09:37:53 PM
I agree, I can see him being our QB for the near future...until Auburn brings in a JUCO Dual Threat QB, then it's back to second string for him.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Jumbo on October 25, 2015, 01:55:32 AM
His father Stan was a kick ass freshman quarterback at Auburn.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: jmar on October 25, 2015, 03:07:14 AM
Go ahead and cut to the chase. Do you think we can win a championship with him at QB? Most seem to think he can do it but there are some who are convinced Auburn needs dual threat QB. Honestly, I think  this guy might turn out to be better QB than snowboarder and he's a damn good snowboarder. Most accurate freshman QB at Auburn this 37 year old can remember. Wouldn't surprise me a bit to see him to lead Auburn to a win in any of our remaining games. Depending on if we can catch the ball and Carl Lawson returns of course.
I like his toughness and we can win some games with him. Doesn't have a big gun but he has plenty of mustard on it for what we do inside forty yards or so. White had about six dropped balls yesterday and maybe three others that were a bit behind the receivers but still catchable.

Doesn't help that he has to deal with our ridiculously predictable play calling that puts added pressure on him. I want the long ball to be a choice and the first down calls and slow developing plays force him behind the sticks too often.

If this offense requires a running QB to be successful it is a failure of the coordinator and Head Coach, not White. They need to adapt to White, same as with Todd, not the other way around. And honestly as it is now I doubt he will be at Auburn for the remainder of his college career nor would I blame him for transferring should he feel they are getting too cozy with the dual purpose incoming while he gives his all.     
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: JR4AU on October 25, 2015, 07:06:27 AM
I agree, I can see him being our QB for the near future...until Auburn brings in a JUCO Dual Threat QB, then it's back to second string for him.

Kinda the way I'm thinking too.  He's good enough, especially with a good surrounding cast, but he'll be looking over his shoulder the entire time.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 25, 2015, 10:10:10 AM
19-34 for 254 yards.  Give him 5 of the 7 obvious drops back and he's 31-42..or something like that.  Probably goes for 350-400 if they just catch the damn ball.  One thing both he and Carry-on need to improve on, especially if we're going to keep increasing the number of Mildcat formations, is making the right reads.  Had to be 5 or 6 times either White or Johnson just blew the proper read.  Plays that would have gone for huge yardage.  But, I imagine that just takes experience.  Seeing it over and over.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: djsimp on October 25, 2015, 11:54:05 AM
I like Sean. I honestly believe this kid will be a star at Auburn. Of course we all know Gus will continue to recruit more QBs with one or two being JUCO. Gus needs to focus on getting some WRs to Auburn. Hard focus needs to be put here and perhaps save your JUCO focus for WRs and a LB or two. All of this helps White. I like the kid and hope his talent alone brings some guys in to catch his passes.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: GH2001 on October 25, 2015, 12:03:38 PM
Kinda the way I'm thinking too.  He's good enough, especially with a good surrounding cast, but he'll be looking over his shoulder the entire time.

He's not cam or nick. But I think he's a good enough runner to keep a D honest.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Jumbo on October 25, 2015, 01:21:45 PM
I like Sean. I honestly believe this kid will be a star at Auburn. Of course we all know Gus will continue to recruit more QBs with one or two being JUCO. Gus needs to focus on getting some WRs to Auburn. Hard focus needs to be put here and perhaps save your JUCO focus for WRs and a LB or two. All of this helps White. I like the kid and hope his talent alone brings some guys in to catch his passes.
I agree with you and Prowler I'm sure Gus is wanting to bail on Sean and grab a juco triple threat qb that has been in some minor trouble with drugs/domestic violence/ money laundering.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: djsimp on October 25, 2015, 02:04:57 PM
I agree with you and Prowler I'm sure Gus is wanting to bail on Sean and grab a juco triple threat qb that has been in some minor trouble with drugs/domestic violence/ money laundering.

You have to stay with the model.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 25, 2015, 02:38:15 PM
I agree with you and Prowler I'm sure Gus is wanting to bail on Sean and grab a juco triple threat qb that has been in some minor trouble with drugs/domestic violence/ money laundering.

Geez...what the hell are you talking about?  None of the guys Gus has recruited has had any hand in money laundering.  That we know of.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Jumbo on October 25, 2015, 06:19:41 PM
Geez...what the hell are you talking about?  None of the guys Gus has recruited has had any hand in money laundering.  That we know of.
I know nothing of money laundering.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: The Prowler on October 25, 2015, 06:36:44 PM
Geez...what the hell are you talking about?  None of the guys Gus has recruited has had any hand in money laundering.  That we know of.
I know nothing of money laundering.

I washed a few dollars with my pants yesterday.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Godfather on October 26, 2015, 10:16:27 AM
I counted 10 drops that were all catchable.  I will give back 3 just for the hell of it.  Dude is crazy accurate.

Funny thing is, he can run the ball too, not sure why we don't utilize him in that aspect. Unless Gus is afraid of him getting hurt.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Jumbo on October 26, 2015, 12:36:12 PM
Sean will look good in green and gold playing on the Southside next year.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: CCTAU on October 26, 2015, 03:20:55 PM
I counted 10 drops that were all catchable.  I will give back 3 just for the hell of it.  Dude is crazy accurate.

Funny thing is, he can run the ball too, not sure why we don't utilize him in that aspect. Unless Gus is afraid of him getting hurt.

I hear ya. I mean why not. We got the greatest QB of all time just raring to go!
He has really got his confidence back!
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: AUownsU on October 26, 2015, 04:55:41 PM
Stole from AUFamily. Since throwing that int against MSU, Sean White has now attempted 94 passes without an int. That streak currently ranks 4th all time in Auburn history. If that doesn't impress you, you are a being a bitch and need to eat a fucking Snickers.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: The Prowler on October 26, 2015, 06:24:17 PM
Stole from AUFamily. Since throwing that int against MSU, Sean White has now attempted 94 passes without an int. That streak currently ranks 4th all time in Auburn history. If that doesn't impress you, you are a being a bitch and need to eat a fucking Snickers.
...and that's why Coach Malzahn doesn't want to run him, because we all know that the "Interception King" is the backup.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Jumbo on October 27, 2015, 01:58:34 AM
Stole from AUFamily. Since throwing that int against MSU, Sean White has now attempted 94 passes without an int. That streak currently ranks 4th all time in Auburn history. If that doesn't impress you, you are a being a bitch and need to eat a fucking Snickers.
How many Td passes has he thrown? I'll hang up and listen.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: jmar on October 27, 2015, 06:30:12 AM
...and that's why Coach Malzahn doesn't want to run him, because we all know that the "Interception King" is the backup.
I'm ready to see a return on the investment for signing all of these tweeners-Roc Thomas, Jason Smith, Kerryon Johnson, Stanton Truitt...all basically slot guys that rarely see the field together. We don't use a tight end and when a guy like Pettway turns in a positive play we don't see him again. Use them! Put the personnel and packages on the field for White, get creative again and stop handing off to Barber on every first down.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: The Prowler on October 27, 2015, 06:59:26 AM
How many Td passes has he thrown? I'll hang up and listen.
He threw a two point conversion pass...does that count?
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: jmar on October 27, 2015, 07:50:01 AM
He threw a two point conversion pass...does that count?
I'm not so worried about our lack of TD passes when we lack sure hands and are trying desperately to avoid having to settle for FGs in the redzone.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: GH2001 on October 27, 2015, 08:14:44 AM
I'm not so worried about our lack of TD passes when we lack sure hands and are trying desperately to avoid having to settle for FGs in the redzone.

If running it is our bread n butter, then Im not sure why anyone has an issue with running in the TDs. When we get down there and try to pass it in, people accuse the staff of getting cutesy on playcalling. Can't have it both ways.

But the fans have it all figured out. 
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Townhallsavoy on October 27, 2015, 08:21:51 AM
How many Td passes has he thrown? I'll hang up and listen.

ZERO!

But JJ's biggest issue was turnovers, and we could barely beat JSU because of it. White's biggest strength seems to be not throwing interceptions, we barely lost to Arkansas because of it. Not sure which I would rather.

Sean White is limited with 4 games, but I think we can learn something through his stats:

63% completion percentage. 204 yards per game.

In 2012, when we really and truly sucked on offense, we averaged 80 yards per game passing and had a 54% completion percentage.

In 2011, which was more similar to this season than 2012 was, we averaged 155 yards per game and had a 56% completion percentage.

In 2009, which had a decent quarterback that wasn't spectacular, he averaged 209 yards per game and had a 60% completion percentage.

Cam and Nick's numbers were very similar to White's and Todd's. About 200 yards per game with 66% (Cam) and 60% (Nick) completion percentages.

Our running game seems to be clicking but still lacks the dual threat option at QB. If White (or some more wildcat) could get us 50 more rushing yards a game, we would be almost to 2010's yards per game and over 2009's yards per game.

So while White does not get us more points, he seems to have our offense almost back to what we're used to from Gus. Except in scoring points through the air. 

But whether you want scoreless White or turnover-man Johnson, it doesn't really matter. Every statistic on defense (the per/game categories) this season thus far is worse already than 2012's whole season. And 2012 at this point still had the Texas A&M, Georgia, and Alabama shellackings.

It might be safe to say that (at least at this point) this is by far the worst defense Auburn has ever fielded.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Godfather on October 27, 2015, 09:01:00 AM
If running it is our bread n butter, then Im not sure why anyone has an issue with running in the TDs. When we get down there and try to pass it in, people accuse the staff of getting cutesy on playcalling. Can't have it both ways.

But the fans have it all figured out.

All of this.  If we are scoring running the ball I could give a fuck if Sean throws a TD.  He will get his. 

Like jmar said though perhaps we could change-up our first down play consisting of running up the middle.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: GH2001 on October 27, 2015, 09:12:05 AM
All of this.  If we are scoring running the ball I could give a fuck if Sean throws a TD.  He will get his. 

Like jmar said though perhaps we could change-up our first down play consisting of running up the middle.

A Gus offense is mostly about rhythm. And for the most part it will get its yards once it gets in sync. But THS is right....at the moment, most of the issues are lying on the shoulders of the front 7 on D. And I think that is just gonna take time. Ej drove our D personnel to shit. Not that we don't have talent. But we don't have the correct personnel to run WM's D nor to stop most SEC O's regardless of scheme.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Godfather on October 27, 2015, 09:28:17 AM
But JJ's biggest issue was turnovers, and we could barely beat JSU because of it. White's biggest strength seems to be not throwing interceptions, we barely lost to Arkansas because of it. Not sure which I would rather.


The guy that doesn't turn the ball over and puts you in position to win.  The loss to Arky and lack of passing TD's in that game was not Sean's fault.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: wesfau2 on October 27, 2015, 09:29:08 AM
The guy that doesn't turn the ball over and puts you in position to win.  The loss to Arky and lack of passing TD's in that game was not Sean's fault.

Money.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: GH2001 on October 27, 2015, 10:16:09 AM
Money.

To add to it, he in fact gave us a chance to win it. Every turnover you don't have is 6 less points of potential the opposing team gets.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: djsimp on October 27, 2015, 06:04:46 PM
Da boy is a gamer.

http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102715aae.html

Quote
PRESSURE AND FUN: AUBURN'S SEAN WHITE EMBRACES QB ROLE
Oct. 27, 2015
SeanWhite
Auburn's Sean White will be looking for more success when he faces Ole Miss on Saturday

By Charles Goldberg
AuburnTigers.com

AUBURN, Ala. — Sean White had a long way to go, and had a short time to get there at Arkansas last Saturday.

The Auburn quarterback accepted the challenged.

White grabbed his two-minute offense and drove the Tigers to a tying field goal in the closing moments of regulation. Pressure?

"I think it's fun," White said. "The pressure's on for you to try to help your team to either tie or win the game, and that, as a quarterback, you like those situations. Those are situations you like to thrive in. Being down three points, I got my opportunity and, luckily, we were able to tie the game."

Daniel Carlson's field goal tied Arkansas with four seconds left, but the Razorbacks won 54-46 in four overtimes. Auburn will look for better results in Saturday's 11 a.m. home game against Ole Miss.

White's look at pressure, of talking up his receivers, of talking about leadership continued when he met the media Tuesday as he heads to his fifth career game.

"I think I'm just feeling more comfortable with every start," White said.

Auburn is 4-3 overall and 1-3 in the SEC. Ole Miss is 6-2 overall and 3-1 in the league.

Auburn was down by three with 1:07 to play and with no time outs when White moved Auburn from its own 26 to close enough for Carlson to tie Arkansas.

"Obviously, I wish we could have won a couple of those games, but I'm having fun playing with my teammates, playing for my coaches," White said. "Playing in the SEC, especially as a redshirt freshman, it's been a blessing. I'm just trying to take everything in stride and try to keep learning and get better because that's what I have to do."

"As a quarterback, you have to be a leader, but you don't want to step on the seniors' toes or anything like that, especially because I didn't start out the season as a starter. I feel as a quarterback I'm gaining my teammates' respect. My leadership role has to increase the more that I play. I think that's something that has been increasing and I'll continue to try to build that for my team."

White's stats: 63-of-97 for 805 yards. He was 19-of-32 passing for 254 yards against Arkansas, and could have had more if not for drops.

Auburn receiver Ricardo Louis had six catches, and said he should have had more if not for the balls that got away. White, as he did last Saturday, stood up for his receiver.

"He made a lot of good plays that put us in position to win and he's a great receiver," White said. "He'll use it as motivation. I think he was down on himself after the game, but I think now he's ready to use it as motivation for the rest of the season. He's going to be ready to go the rest of the season and keep making plays for us. I'm very confident in Ricardo."

Coach Gus Malzahn said White's attitude shows leadership.

"He's a tough kid," Malzahn said. "As a matter of fact, he was an encourager. 'Hey, I'm going to get it back to you.' That’s part of playing quarterback too — how you deal with your teammates and all that. I think he's got that pretty good hand on that, too."
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Pell City Tiger on October 27, 2015, 06:51:41 PM
He's a gamer and is going to be one of our all-time greats by the time he leaves.

Another plus for us on that last drive was the superhuman power of  Legatron. If we get within 60 yards of the goalpost, Carlson has a great chance of putting it through the uprights. The dude is a monster.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 27, 2015, 07:04:35 PM
He's a gamer and is going to be one of our all-time greats by the time he leaves.

Another plus for us on that last drive was the superhuman power of  Legatron. If we get within 60 yards of the goalpost, Carlson has a great chance of putting it through the uprights. The dude is a monster.

Legatron? Really?  That is absolutely, positively, without a doubt....one of the coolest names you've ever come up with.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: The Prowler on October 27, 2015, 08:25:49 PM
Da boy is a gamer.

http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102715aae.html
Auburn just offered JUCO QB John Franklin III (former FSU QB) & JUCO QB Jérod Evans will soon have his offer.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Jumbo on October 27, 2015, 08:52:53 PM
Auburn just offered JUCO QB John Franklin III (former FSU QB) & JUCO QB Jérod Evans will soon have his offer.
That tells me Gus doesn't want to ride the white horse.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Snaggletiger on October 27, 2015, 09:18:25 PM
That tells me Gus doesn't want to ride the white horse.

I hope not but QB is something you can never have too many of.  What they need to be offering are D-Linemen...D-Linemen...D-Linemen and then a few more D-Linemen.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: The Prowler on October 27, 2015, 09:32:37 PM
I hope not but QB is something you can never have too many of.  What they need to be offering are D-Linemen...D-Linemen...D-Linemen and then a few more D-Linemen.
Maybe throw in some mean & nasty LBers, like Mack on The Program. A linebacker that attacks the ball carrier to inflict as much pain as possible...one that throws his elbow into the throat of a offensive lineman trying to block him...one that when he grabs a facemask, everyone in the stadium knows that he grabbed it as he's holding the opponent's helmet in his hand...one that receivers fear when they're called on to go over the middle.

I want a Quentin Coryatt/Takeo Spikes mixture at all linebacker positions.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: WiregrassTiger on October 27, 2015, 09:55:45 PM
Maybe throw in some mean & nasty LBers, like Mack on The Program. A linebacker that attacks the ball carrier to inflict as much pain as possible...one that throws his elbow into the throat of a offensive lineman trying to block him...one that when he grabs a facemask, everyone in the stadium knows that he grabbed it as he's holding the opponent's helmet in his hand...one that receivers fear when they're called on to go over the middle.

I want a Quentin Coryatt/Takeo Spikes mixture at all linebacker positions.
You'll get Kris Frost and Jake Holland and like it.
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: The Prowler on October 27, 2015, 10:45:36 PM
You'll get Kris Frost and Jake Holland and like it.

(http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA2LzEzL2E4L3NtYXNoZWRjb21wLjVkMzdhLmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/46976450/cf5/smashed-computer.gif)

NO!
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: djsimp on October 28, 2015, 12:31:22 AM
Ok people, this thread is about Sean White.


Thank you,
Signed Godfather
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Godfather on October 28, 2015, 10:36:53 AM
That tells me Gus doesn't want to ride the white horse.
We sign QB's every year, like Nutless said you can never have enough of them.  White is da man!
Title: Re: Sean White
Post by: Buzz Killington on October 28, 2015, 12:07:20 PM
If ya wanna ride, ride the white pony