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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on September 27, 2015, 08:45:53 AM
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- We have now lost two straight games to the armpit of the SECW. I remember in 2007 losing to Mississippi State, and that was the first "sky is falling" loss I ever experienced. It was in-fucking-conceivable to lose to Miss State.
But here we are. Two in a row. Miss State has a winning streak against Auburn University in football.
Last year was forgivable. Sorta. Miss State had their best team in history and we had to play them in Starkville right at the peak of their hype train. Even then, we probably should have won.
This year? That looked like the Mississippi State I know. Dak Prescott is pretty good, but he's not an elite QB. He was surrounded by talent last year, which made him look a lot better than he is. But he's not that great. There was no reason why even a down Auburn team shouldn't beat a normal Miss State team.
- I've read some commentary on how the defense was better. They were much better. I think a lot of that had to do with the offense eating up clock and more so with Mississippi State have typical Mississippi State mistakes. They had a lot of dropped passes and their play calling was extremely predictable.
I think benching five guys and starting a bunch of true freshmen on the first drive was a mistake. Maybe it wasn't. I don't really know. I do know the only drive that featured MSU just marching down the field on us was their opening drive. I wonder if we have an actual chance at winning if we keep them from scoring a touchdown there.
- I also keep reading about Sean White sputtering and being "uneventful" as al.com put it. Uhh, what the hell? Is everyone blind?
Jeremy Johnson routinely put us in a position to LOSE. Seriously. Nearly ever series Johnson had in three games featured him nearly giving the ball away or doing something stupid.
Sean White was much more consistent. Yeah, he made a mistake in the red zone and he wasn't Tom Brady there at the end. But he HAS to be the quarterback of the future. He was accurate most of the game and played with guts.
- Though what does all of this matter? I think I'm going to sit at the bus stop and wait for the next driver. Gus Malzahn's play calling, team preparation, and adjustments are just not working.
His red zone history in big games is now officially atrocious. For someone who is supposed to be an offensive genius, it's ridiculous that his teams cannot score with that kind of field position. We should have beaten Miss State, Texas A&M, and Alabama in 2014 but didn't because we couldn't capitalize on drives. We should have beaten Miss State in 2015 but again came away with 6 points after four opportunities on the ten yard line.
- Should have.
We should have a starting quarterback at the beginning of year 3 that knows how to run the offense.
We should have an offensive line that can protect the passer for longer than two seconds.
We should have a game plan that utilizes a wide receiver talent that could be a top ten pick in the NFL draft.
We should have a defense that isn't giving up 216 yards per game on the ground going into week 4.
We should still be ranked in the top 25 after being preseason ranked #6. A loss or poor showing? It happens. To be questioning our status as a bowl team after week 4? That should never happen at Auburn.
- ESPN can blow a dick by the way. I loved how they played Tammy's call in the 1st quarter and then cut to our fans in the stands like that's the representation of us.
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Pretty spot on.
Although I will say this is not quite the Miss State of old. Mullen (as much of a dick wad that he is) is a pretty solid coach in general. They are a solid team (not great, not good, but decent). And Diaz is a helluva DC. He dialed up blitzes and pressure which exposed Gus/Rhett. MSU really should have beaten LSU.
Im puzzled by our OL's ability to road grind on running plays and inability to protect our QB for more than 1.5 seconds on pass plays. Such a contrast. Statistically we beat these guys - TOP, Yards, First Downs. A few dumb mistakes, lack of OL protection, lack of DL penetration and awful play calling in the redzone were our doom. Convert just 1, maybe 2 of those redzone trips - and we are talking about a great win and how the season looks up now. The difference is we didn't convert - the stats are the same, but the score is different.
But in the end, you are right. This is a solid Miss State team, but.....an average or down Auburn team should still be beating a decent MSU team 80% of the time. On O, they were Dak/Derunya....thats it. And they made plays when they needed to, and most of all they protected their QB for an eternity. Our D played well enough but the DL is atrocious without Lawson against the pass. Dak was never threatened.
The DL getting no penetration combined with the OL not being able to pass protect = the game was ultimately won in the trenches. This will always hold true. Cutesy play calling and dumb coaching aside - we got beat in the trenches badly for the most part. Which is also coaching.
Gus needs to start coaching like his job is on the line. Like, he did when he got here.
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Other thoughts -
- Florida vs. Tennessee was an example of how great college football should be. I would HATE to be on Tennessee's side losing a game like that, but I think would take that loss over the win against JSU, the blowout loss against LSU, and the boring game against Miss State.
- I was very right about Oregon. 62-20? Put a fork in that coach. He'll be gone in two years.
- Michigan is back in terms of Big 10 back. I don't think that means anything.
- USC vs. UCLA will be an interesting rivalry game this year.
- But Utah may end up winning the Pac 12.
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This year will probably end in anywhere 4-8 to 6-6. The board will be dry as dust until next spring. The Spring Game will come and go with little fanfare. The media will pick Auburn to finish 7th in the West. Then, hope will sprout eternal again. We'll sneak up and beat a couple teams, people will get excited, and we'll go 7-5 but with a lot of promise. Then, we'll go 6-6. Then, we'll go 4-8 and by then the buyout will be low enough to move on to another coach. Rinse. Repeat.
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This year will probably end in anywhere 4-8 to 6-6. The board will be dry as dust until next spring. The Spring Game will come and go with little fanfare. The media will pick Auburn to finish 7th in the West. Then, hope will sprout eternal again. We'll sneak up and beat a couple teams, people will get excited, and we'll go 7-5 but with a lot of promise. Then, we'll go 6-6. Then, we'll go 4-8 and by then the buyout will be low enough to move on to another coach. Rinse. Repeat.
Our program is too rich and proud to go through that cycle.
I like your prediction though up until the final 4-8. Gus will be gone if he is not in direct contention for the SECCG in 2016.
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The DL getting no penetration combined with the OL not being able to pass protect = the game was ultimately won in the trenches. This will always hold true. Cutesy play calling and dumb coaching aside - we got beat in the trenches badly for the most part. Which is also coaching.
This is 100% troof. Prescott was in the back field knitting a sweater most of the night.
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- And what happened to Kerryon? He was running really hard in the 1st half. Disappeared in the 2nd. Roc Thomas got a bunch of carries and killed a drive by himself.
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Look I have no illusions of this season, but if Sean had been playing from game 1 we would have won last night. He needs more reps.
I actually hold out hope that this season is salvageable. The only team I mark as a definite loss at this point is UGA. Everyone else is beatable if we get our shit together, but they are all going to be catfights!
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Look I have no illusions of this season, but if Sean had been playing from game 1 we would have won last night. He needs more reps.
I actually hold out hope that this season is salvageable. The only team I mark as a definite loss at this point is UGA. Everyone else is beatable if we get our shit together, but they are all going to be catfights!
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- We have now lost two straight games to the armpit of the SECW. I remember in 2007 losing to Mississippi State, and that was the first "sky is falling" loss I ever experienced. It was in-fucking-conceivable to lose to Miss State.
But here we are. Two in a row. Miss State has a winning streak against Auburn University in football.
Last year was forgivable. Sorta. Miss State had their best team in history and we had to play them in Starkville right at the peak of their hype train. Even then, we probably should have won.
This year? That looked like the Mississippi State I know. Dak Prescott is pretty good, but he's not an elite QB. He was surrounded by talent last year, which made him look a lot better than he is. But he's not that great. There was no reason why even a down Auburn team shouldn't beat a normal Miss State team.
- I've read some commentary on how the defense was better. They were much better. I think a lot of that had to do with the offense eating up clock and more so with Mississippi State have typical Mississippi State mistakes. They had a lot of dropped passes and their play calling was extremely predictable.
I think benching five guys and starting a bunch of true freshmen on the first drive was a mistake. Maybe it wasn't. I don't really know. I do know the only drive that featured MSU just marching down the field on us was their opening drive. I wonder if we have an actual chance at winning if we keep them from scoring a touchdown there.
- I also keep reading about Sean White sputtering and being "uneventful" as al.com put it. Uhh, what the hell? Is everyone blind?
Jeremy Johnson routinely put us in a position to LOSE. Seriously. Nearly ever series Johnson had in three games featured him nearly giving the ball away or doing something stupid.
Sean White was much more consistent. Yeah, he made a mistake in the red zone and he wasn't Tom Brady there at the end. But he HAS to be the quarterback of the future. He was accurate most of the game and played with guts.
- Though what does all of this matter? I think I'm going to sit at the bus stop and wait for the next driver. Gus Malzahn's play calling, team preparation, and adjustments are just not working.
His red zone history in big games is now officially atrocious. For someone who is supposed to be an offensive genius, it's ridiculous that his teams cannot score with that kind of field position. We should have beaten Miss State, Texas A&M, and Alabama in 2014 but didn't because we couldn't capitalize on drives. We should have beaten Miss State in 2015 but again came away with 6 points after four opportunities on the ten yard line.
- Should have.
We should have a starting quarterback at the beginning of year 3 that knows how to run the offense.
We should have an offensive line that can protect the passer for longer than two seconds.
We should have a game plan that utilizes a wide receiver talent that could be a top ten pick in the NFL draft.
We should have a defense that isn't giving up 216 yards per game on the ground going into week 4.
We should still be ranked in the top 25 after being preseason ranked #6. A loss or poor showing? It happens. To be questioning our status as a bowl team after week 4? That should never happen at Auburn.
- ESPN can blow a dick by the way. I loved how they played Tammy's call in the 1st quarter and then cut to our fans in the stands like that's the representation of us.
I agee pretty much on White. He was better than what we've seen from JJ, and it was his first college game. I think he will be ok. We could have won last night with that defense. I think if White had another game or 2 under his belt we would have.
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Let's kick some San JuanFranciscoSalvadorDiego Spartan ass this weekend. They are the Spartans, aren't they?
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Let's kick some San JuanFranciscoSalvadorDiego Spartan ass this weekend. They are the Spartans, aren't they?
Their running back had 275 yards rushing last night against Fresno State. :gig:
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Look I have no illusions of this season, but if Sean had been playing from game 1 we would have won last night. He needs more reps.
I actually hold out hope that this season is salvageable. The only team I mark as a definite loss at this point is UGA. Everyone else is beatable if we get our shit together, but they are all going to be catfights!
I wondered out loud the same thing about SW. If he ha been the guy from jump, we would be clicking pretty well right now.
At least I am excited to see how much better he gets.
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I wondered out loud the same thing about SW. If he ha been the guy from jump, we would be clicking pretty well right now.
At least I am excited to see how much better he gets.
Yep
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I wondered out loud the same thing about SW. If he ha been the guy from jump, we would be clicking pretty well right now.
At least I am excited to see how much better he gets.
Kind of the same thing as just saying it, amirite?
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Kind of the same thing as just saying it, amirite?
You are so right.
Only swell guys drink Landshark.
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Sonny Golloway paid the price for this debacle.
He's gone. Problem solved. It's got to get better now.
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BTW, that nauseating photo comes from an article the day prior to the NC game against FSU where Jacobs said this:
“It’s not going to be (a one-hit wonder),†Jacobs said. “I’m not going to allow it to be. Nor is Gus. We’re building a program back here.â€
Jacobs vows that this season (2013) won’t be an outlier. What makes him so confident?
“My confidence is me being on alert to watch for those things that cause erosion,†he said. “That doesn’t mean I’m going to see everything, but I’m not turning a blind eye to any of it. That comes with experience.
“It’s not about the coaches or the players. It’s my confidence in knowing what to look for and when I see something that can cause erosion, I’m going to put an end to it. Gus and I have that mutually agreed upon. We both want to make sure there’s no slippage.â€
Jacobs seems a changed man a year after firing Chizik and hiring Malzahn. The AD is more vocal, more assertive and more aware of the ways little issues can grow into a major problem.
He should be. The responsibility of making sure Auburn repeats 2010 and 2013 and not 2012 lies as much with him as it does Malzahn.
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I swear that picture looks like biggest bulldyke in Auburn, AL..
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I swear that picture looks like biggest bulldyke in Auburn, AL..
What he sed.^^^
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Kind of the same thing as just saying it, amirite?
Not really. I was all by myself when I wondered out loud.
Therefor I had no one to "say" it to!
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Like most others here, I feel pretty good about Sean White. The red zone play calls, no so much.
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First drive ended and Jeremy said, "Shit man, at least I hit em' between the numbers."
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Carl Lawson (even with the worst of hip flexor injuries) should be back around the road trip to Fayetteville or *at home on Halloween against the Ackbars. If Malzahn can manufacture some nifty play calling and Muschamp's boys can stop the opposition on the first couple of series in each contest we could bludgeon the Spartans, reflect during the open date and possibly snatch victory from the Wildcats in Lexington. Stoked?
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Carl Lawson (even with the worst of hip flexor injuries) should be back around the road trip to Fayetteville or *at home on Halloween against the Ackbars. If Malzahn can manufacture some nifty play calling and Muschamp's boys can stop the opposition on the first couple of series in each contest we could bludgeon the Spartans, reflect during the open date and possibly snatch victory from the Wildcats in Lexington. Stoked?
Look at you still holding on to hope
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I swear that picture looks like biggest bulldyke in Auburn, AL..
For once, I agree with you.
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Look at you still holding on to hope
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Look at you still holding on to hope
For the record...we were NEVER in the game at Starkvegas last season when we were steamrolled. Same for UGA. I don't feel so comfy with what's ahead the way our fronts are responding. But all we've heard is how the heart and soul of the team is Carl Lawson. Realistically, based on how we are currently playing I'm not so positive but where do we go from here? Has he lost the team? Where is the HUNH that put us back on the map?
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Look at you still holding on to hope
Look at you constantly negative, do you even like Auburn football?
Honestly, I agree with him (can't believe I'm saying that). I know we lost, but I saw a lot of positives for the first time this year. I could be wrong but I actually do believe we are going to get better from this point and do have the possibility of beating some folks. I think you are going to see some good things happen.
It is tremendously disappointing that expectations were not tempered at all. No it's not the team I hoped for, but I would rather hold up hope than be pissed all the time.
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Look at you constantly negative, do you even like Auburn football?
Honestly, I agree with him (can't believe I'm saying that). I know we lost, but I saw a lot of positives for the first time this year. I could be wrong but I actually do believe we are going to get better from this point and do have the possibility of beating some folks. I think you are going to see some good things happen.
It is tremendously disappointing that expectations were not tempered at all. No it's not the team I hoped for, but I would rather hold up hope than be pissed all the time.
I'm with you here.
Never been a rainbows and cotton candy type. But I saw a lot of good, and some hope Sat night. Not saying we are great but I think the season is salvageable. Say, we finish 6-6, 7-5, possibly even 8-4 with a few breaks. Thats probably about the caliber of team we are to be honest. Expectations were way too high. Thats on the media, on our coaches, and on us. An attitude adjustment is what we have received the last 3 games. We deserved it. Sean White will get better, and he's already not bad. Better than JJ. Some of the players commented on how they liked his "swagger". That is a good sign. They have confidence in him. and best of all SW has confidence in SW. UGA is our only certain loss to me. Everyone else on our schedule has "issues" of their own. Look what OM did at Vandy. Bama has their issues. Kentucky is meh. Arky is meh. And Aggie even showed that they are not unbeatable. Arky gifted them that win. Any given Saturday.
I would put myself on the cautiously optimistic train right now.
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Agree with THS's write-up for the most part. The offense looked like it was going through some growing pains with a new QB, but I never felt a sense of dread watching them trudge back out on the field. White/Barber/KJohnson is a potent offense and they looked like they can get on the same page with more reps.
Asshole alert: IF Roc is hurt (and I truly do not wish for any of our guys to be injured), it may be the best opportunity for the aforementioned offensive trio to take full control of the playing time. The timing of Roc's insertion into the game is puzzling and, combined with Malzahn's statement regarding the RBs last week ("keeping them happy"), makes me wonder if Mal/Lash are trying to honor some recruiting promises despite the obvious production of other players.
The defensive starters that sat on the bench to start the game (McKinzy, Frost and Ford) looked to have learned their lesson from said benching. Frost in particular was playing with determination and picking up the D on the sidelines. Frankly, I was puzzled by the McKinzy benching...he looked like he's been playing everyone's position heretofore and trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
With a little pass rush, the Prescott/Wilson train is derailed and we probably see a different outcome.
All in all, I feel better about this loss and the direction (if SW remains the starter) of the team (both off and def...c'mon, Carlson!) than I have all year.
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Look at you constantly negative, do you even like Auburn football?
Honestly, I agree with him (can't believe I'm saying that). I know we lost, but I saw a lot of positives for the first time this year. I could be wrong but I actually do believe we are going to get better from this point and do have the possibility of beating some folks. I think you are going to see some good things happen.
It is tremendously disappointing that expectations were not tempered at all. No it's not the team I hoped for, but I would rather hold up hope than be pissed all the time.
It was a joke. Go take some Midol, Erma.
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I was honestly disappointed in the play of the defense in the first quarter and the pass blocking of the OL all game long. Otherwise, I saw a lot of positives that can be built on for the balance of the year.
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Look at you constantly negative, do you even like Auburn football?
Honestly, I agree with him (can't believe I'm saying that). I know we lost, but I saw a lot of positives for the first time this year. I could be wrong but I actually do believe we are going to get better from this point and do have the possibility of beating some folks. I think you are going to see some good things happen.
It is tremendously disappointing that expectations were not tempered at all. No it's not the team I hoped for, but I would rather hold up hope than be pissed all the time.
I have little sunshine pumping in me aside from what is required for everyday life. But like you I do see some positves.We have talent and playmakers first and foremost but the offensive line looks lethargic and we aren't going have many sustained drives the way this group is playing. Would be perfectly happy to not attempt a pass v. SJState before the bye just to get it right.
I'm conditioned to the feast or famine nature of Auburn football. Doesn't mean I have to like it.
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Despite all of the sunshine pumping that I read on here today, I would just like to remind you that you are all about to die.
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It's just frustrating/infuriating to have to be looking for slivers of possible hope and a turd-tier bowl four games into a season that most thought would be a bust if it didn't include ten wins.
I can understand that sometimes things don't go as expected. What I can't understand and what slaps the give a shit right out of your mouth is the crash and burn. Okay, so you find out you're not really a playoff-type team. Why does that mean ass rape? Why does that have to mean hoping to win an SEC game or two?
2003 - as painful as that was - AU was a dropped Obomanu pass in the endzone against Ole Miss from being in the hunt for the SEC title with an LSU team that won the NC. Still finished third in the SEC with a 5-3 record.
Then 2009. Crash and burn? Not really. Five point loss to LSU. One point to Vandy. Three to Arkansas. Second half stumble against WVU. Ten to Ole Miss. Four to Georgia. Give up against Bama when Tuberville was told he wasn't coming back. Competitive in every game at least.
2012 was a crash and burn. Worst season in history.
Since the loss to A&M it's been one shit the bed after another. We were supposed to remember 13 seconds and be so motivated that nobody could stop us. Instead we remembered the last two minutes of the A&M game and have not played well since. That carried over into this season where we've stunk from halftime of the Louisville game on.
A&M was supposed to be a doormat in the SEC, can't compete. Unless there's a miracle, AU's gonna be 1-3 against them. We're 1-3 against MSU the last four. 1-4 against LSU. 2-7 against Georgia the last nine with two close wins and five blowout losses. 2-5 against Alabama. 3-3 vs Arkansas.
5-1 against Ole Miss, though.
That's not what a program that sustains success looks like. And that's what worries me.
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Despite all of the sunshine pumping that I read on here today, I would just like to remind you that you are all about to die.
I'm too young and inexperienced to die.
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Agree with THS's write-up for the most part. The offense looked like it was going through some growing pains with a new QB, but I never felt a sense of dread watching them trudge back out on the field. White/Barber/KJohnson is a potent offense and they looked like they can get on the same page with more reps.
Asshole alert: IF Roc is hurt (and I truly do not wish for any of our guys to be injured), it may be the best opportunity for the aforementioned offensive trio to take full control of the playing time. The timing of Roc's insertion into the game is puzzling and, combined with Malzahn's statement regarding the RBs last week ("keeping them happy"), makes me wonder if Mal/Lash are trying to honor some recruiting promises despite the obvious production of other players.
The defensive starters that sat on the bench to start the game (McKinzy, Frost and Ford) looked to have learned their lesson from said benching. Frost in particular was playing with determination and picking up the D on the sidelines. Frankly, I was puzzled by the McKinzy benching...he looked like he's been playing everyone's position heretofore and trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
With a little pass rush, the Prescott/Wilson train is derailed and we probably see a different outcome.
All in all, I feel better about this loss and the direction (if SW remains the starter) of the team (both off and def...c'mon, Carlson!) than I have all year.
ohCassanova benching surprised me as well, and he came out like a man possessed. I will say this about Roc even though his being brought in at the time was puzzling, because we actually had a productive offense, with a respected passing game, Roc did well.
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It was a joke. Go take some Midol, Erma.
Not really, look you don't have to be constantly positive, I don't give a fuck.
However, some of your posts make me wonder if you enjoy watching football. Don't watch angry.
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Yeah, the pass blocking or lack thereof, is a head scratcher, especially with Coleman and Young manning the tackles. There was a good long stretch where the run blocking looked like things were back to normal. And the good thing was it was obvious that was what they were going to do, no threat of passing, and they lined up and big boy'd em'. Barber is definitely the main guy with the way he hits the hole and his size. But, I get the occasional change up to Roc too. I just think Malzahn is trying to use Barber to pound it over and over and then hit em' with Roc to try and break a long one.
It looks like they're bringing Kerryon Luggage along slowly, expanding his role a little more each game. I'm fine with that and I'd be wary of running him up inside too much. Roc seems to be put together a little better than KJ and more suited to taking on the big nasties inside.
One thing I'd really like to see Saturday is them getting Duke involved. This freakish athlete has 11 catches in 4 games. Many of those coming late after they seemingly ignore the guy for 3 quarters. He ought to be a safety net for a young QB like White.
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It's just frustrating/infuriating to have to be looking for slivers of possible hope and a turd-tier bowl four games into a season that most thought would be a bust if it didn't include ten wins.
I can understand that sometimes things don't go as expected. What I can't understand and what slaps the give a shit right out of your mouth is the crash and burn. Okay, so you find out you're not really a playoff-type team. Why does that mean ass rape? Why does that have to mean hoping to win an SEC game or two?
2003 - as painful as that was - AU was a dropped Obomanu pass in the endzone against Ole Miss from being in the hunt for the SEC title with an LSU team that won the NC. Still finished third in the SEC with a 5-3 record.
Then 2009. Crash and burn? Not really. Five point loss to LSU. One point to Vandy. Three to Arkansas. Second half stumble against WVU. Ten to Ole Miss. Four to Georgia. Give up against Bama when Tuberville was told he wasn't coming back. Competitive in every game at least.
2012 was a crash and burn. Worst season in history.
Since the loss to A&M it's been one shit the bed after another. We were supposed to remember 13 seconds and be so motivated that nobody could stop us. Instead we remembered the last two minutes of the A&M game and have not played well since. That carried over into this season where we've stunk from halftime of the Louisville game on.
A&M was supposed to be a doormat in the SEC, can't compete. Unless there's a miracle, AU's gonna be 1-3 against them. We're 1-3 against MSU the last four. 1-4 against LSU. 2-7 against Georgia the last nine with two close wins and five blowout losses. 2-5 against Alabama. 3-3 vs Arkansas.
5-1 against Ole Miss, though.
That's not what a program that sustains success looks like. And that's what worries me.
I don't know what the answer is. I was afraid that 2013 would cause us problems and it has. We had nowhere to go but down. Again I think with Sean at the helm starting the season we may not have a blowout against LSU, not saying we win but I think it would have been closer. Who knows.
I'm not enamored with the coaching right now, I know it could always be worse (see arky and UT). I guess I still have hope, and would like to see how this season plays out before making any kind of judgement.
If we went 8-4 or 9-3 would we consider it a bad year? With what our expectations were yes. But to consider year 3 with injuries, and starting a RS Freshman? I don't know.
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I don't know what the answer is. I was afraid that 2013 would cause us problems and it has. We had nowhere to go but down. Again I think with Sean at the helm starting the season we may not have a blowout against LSU, not saying we win but I think it would have been closer. Who knows.
I'm not enamored with the coaching right now, I know it could always be worse (see arky and UT). I guess I still have hope, and would like to see how this season plays out before making any kind of judgement.
If we went 8-4 or 9-3 would we consider it a bad year? With what our expectations were yes. But to consider year 3 with injuries, and starting a RS Freshman? I don't know.
Pre-season, I would have been upset with 8-4. At this point, I would be ecstatic with it. Not sure how that makes me feel in the whole scheme of things...
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It's just frustrating/infuriating to have to be looking for slivers of possible hope and a turd-tier bowl four games into a season that most thought would be a bust if it didn't include ten wins.
I can understand that sometimes things don't go as expected. What I can't understand and what slaps the give a shit right out of your mouth is the crash and burn. Okay, so you find out you're not really a playoff-type team. Why does that mean ass rape? Why does that have to mean hoping to win an SEC game or two?
2003 - as painful as that was - AU was a dropped Obomanu pass in the endzone against Ole Miss from being in the hunt for the SEC title with an LSU team that won the NC. Still finished third in the SEC with a 5-3 record.
Then 2009. Crash and burn? Not really. Five point loss to LSU. One point to Vandy. Three to Arkansas. Second half stumble against WVU. Ten to Ole Miss. Four to Georgia. Give up against Bama when Tuberville was told he wasn't coming back. Competitive in every game at least.
2012 was a crash and burn. Worst season in history.
Since the loss to A&M it's been one shit the bed after another. We were supposed to remember 13 seconds and be so motivated that nobody could stop us. Instead we remembered the last two minutes of the A&M game and have not played well since. That carried over into this season where we've stunk from halftime of the Louisville game on.
A&M was supposed to be a doormat in the SEC, can't compete. Unless there's a miracle, AU's gonna be 1-3 against them. We're 1-3 against MSU the last four. 1-4 against LSU. 2-7 against Georgia the last nine with two close wins and five blowout losses. 2-5 against Alabama. 3-3 vs Arkansas.
5-1 against Ole Miss, though.
That's not what a program that sustains success looks like. And that's what worries me.
Those numbers tell a story about a football team not prepared to play.
I saw this act in 2008 and 2012. Every week we hoped they get better, every week the came out and looked worst. Right now I just don't have it in me to see any rainbows.
Those numbers will get worst before they get better.
We are Auburn, we deserve better.
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Gus actually used the words young and inexperienced in the post game presser. He shit the bed in four of the last five last season. And now we are at .500 with unrealistic expectations. Mismanaged?
All I know is that he and the staff have a couple of weeks to get it right. Fuck the excuses. There are none.
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Gus actually used the words young and inexperienced in the post game presser. He shit the bed in four of the last five last season. And now we are at .500 with unrealistic expectations. Mismanaged?
All I know is that he and the staff have a couple of weeks to get it right. Fuck the excuses. There are none.
Gus is 3-6 in his last 9 games. There's no excuse for that.
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Gus is 3-6 in his last 9 games. There's no excuse for that.
Maybe not. Or maybe, he was using smoke and mirrors left over from Chiz.
I am disappointed but not as disappointed as most. I didn't buy the playoff. We lost really good offensive players, new QB, new DC, new punter. The end of last season also was an indicator.
Still, I expected MUCH better than what we saw the first 3 games. There is no excuse for how pitiful those were.
I'm still on the Gus bus. I think that he's still learning how to be a head coach. Maybe he needs to relinquish some of the play calling or day to day. I don't know the answer but he needs to do something. If I were to make any change, it would be to substitute less, run qb more and throw it to Duke and Ray.
My suggestion would be to go wildcat with Jason Smith in the red zone for starters. That's the biggest problem, imo.
If the D keeps making strides like the 2nd half of State and doesn't disappear like with LSU and we start making red zone work--we're at least a bowl team. We have to scratch to get there but that will be an accomplishment. Then, we should look more like a legit contender for next year.
We were paper tigers this year. No doubt in my mind. We are not ready.
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I was honestly disappointed in the play of the defense in the first quarter and the pass blocking of the OL all game long. Otherwise, I saw a lot of positives that can be built on for the balance of the year.
After that first drive, we gave up 250 yards the entire game. Yes, that is very encouraging. Especially against the SEC's most experienced QB/WR combo.
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Maybe not. Or maybe, he was using smoke and mirrors left over from Chiz.
I am disappointed but not as disappointed as most. I didn't buy the playoff. We lost really good offensive players, new QB, new DC, new punter. The end of last season also was an indicator.
Still, I expected MUCH better than what we saw the first 3 games. There is no excuse for how pitiful those were.
I'm still on the Gus bus. I think that he's still learning how to be a head coach. Maybe he needs to relinquish some of the play calling or day to day. I don't know the answer but he needs to do something. If I were to make any change, it would be to substitute less, run qb more and throw it to Duke and Ray.
My suggestion would be to go wildcat with Jason Smith in the red zone for starters. That's the biggest problem, imo.
If the D keeps making strides like the 2nd half of State and doesn't disappear like with LSU and we start making red zone work--we're at least a bowl team. We have to scratch to get there but that will be an accomplishment. Then, we should look more like a legit contender for next year.
We were paper tigers this year. No doubt in my mind. We are not ready.
Except for the paper tigers part, but only because I wanted to believe, not because it isn't true. I am with you 100%.
My biggest thing is that I want to see game improvement from this point forward. As far as I'm concerned the season started with State. Now show us what you got.
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Gus is 3-6 in his last 9 games. There's no excuse for that.
Pretty much since halftime at A&M last year like K stated. Or to a lesser degree even going back to MSU last year. Something happened at halftime at that A&M game. Its scary. Its eerie. I dont know what happened, but it was powerful. And I wish I knew what the frick it was.
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Maybe not. Or maybe, he was using smoke and mirrors left over from Chiz.
I am disappointed but not as disappointed as most. I didn't buy the playoff. We lost really good offensive players, new QB, new DC, new punter. The end of last season also was an indicator.
Still, I expected MUCH better than what we saw the first 3 games. There is no excuse for how pitiful those were.
I'm still on the Gus bus. I think that he's still learning how to be a head coach. Maybe he needs to relinquish some of the play calling or day to day. I don't know the answer but he needs to do something. If I were to make any change, it would be to substitute less, run qb more and throw it to Duke and Ray.
My suggestion would be to go wildcat with Jason Smith in the red zone for starters. That's the biggest problem, imo.
If the D keeps making strides like the 2nd half of State and doesn't disappear like with LSU and we start making red zone work--we're at least a bowl team. We have to scratch to get there but that will be an accomplishment. Then, we should look more like a legit contender for next year.
We were paper tigers this year. No doubt in my mind. We are not ready.
On so we are starting over...like Michigan or building like Tennessee?
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And I wish I knew what the frick it was.
(http://i.qkme.me/35ak4o.jpg)
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(http://i.qkme.me/35ak4o.jpg)
Young and inexperienced aliens at that.
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Pretty much since halftime at A&M last year like K stated. Or to a lesser degree even going back to MSU last year. Something happened at halftime at that A&M game. Its scary. Its eerie. I dont know what happened, but it was powerful. And I wish I knew what the frick it was.
Don't know how many times I gots to say it.
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/stateofwoe.png)
Coincidence? I think not!
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ohCassanova benching surprised me as well, and he came out like a man possessed. I will say this about Roc even though his being brought in at the time was puzzling, because we actually had a productive offense, with a respected passing game, Roc did well.
I like using him for the in space plays and sweeps. Running him up the middle is a waste, imo.
I really like when PB and KJ/Roc are in at the same time. With SW running more read option, this could be the winning formula. I saw PB laying a block better than either of the H-backs. And the play action off of this lineup would be effective.
And really, what happened was a big whiff on a QB that everyone thought was the tits. he still may be a great option in the redzone. If he hauls the rick like a man possessed, he may be useful too us. Its hard to stop all of that beef once it gets going.
But I really like how SW plays the game. he knows he's not the tallest or the fastest, so he relies on the intangibles and plays all out. I cannot ever ask for more in a QB. And he has a good arm with excellent accuracy. He got hit hard and still delivered a shot n one of those plays. Bounced up and was ready to go again. That fires up an offense.
And like many have stated, if we just stuck with the run and added on a couple of short passes, we could have worn them out. Practice a true option and we can do some damage.
And one more thing I saw, was our first short crossing route of the year. Of course it was 3rd and 20 and JS dropped it, but there is hope.
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I don't know what the answer is. I was afraid that 2013 would cause us problems and it has. We had nowhere to go but down. Again I think with Sean at the helm starting the season we may not have a blowout against LSU, not saying we win but I think it would have been closer. Who knows.
I'm not enamored with the coaching right now, I know it could always be worse (see arky and UT). I guess I still have hope, and would like to see how this season plays out before making any kind of judgement.
If we went 8-4 or 9-3 would we consider it a bad year? With what our expectations were yes. But to consider year 3 with injuries, and starting a RS Freshman? I don't know.
How did we have no where to go but down? I think we had no where to go but up.
2013 featured some fortunate bounces that went our way. But that team had serious flaws. The defense was rather soft for a championship caliber team. The offense was unstoppable but was definitely a single-headed monster (read-option run game).
Malzahn should have been able to start moving this team in a better direction after that season. Better defense, more dynamic offense.
Instead, the defense got worse and the offense has become 2008/2012 bad.
If we can go 9-3, I'll consider it a good year. That would mean wins against all but one of the following: Ole Miss, Alabama, Georgia, and @Texas A&M. 8-4 would at least get me hoping for next year. 7-5 or worse, and I'm thinking about how to plan my Saturdays in fall of 2016 away from college fooball
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Don't know how many times I gots to say it.
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/stateofwoe.png)
Coincidence? I think not!
Yeah we hupped when nobody say hup.
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Don't know how many times I gots to say it.
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/stateofwoe.png)
Coincidence? I think not!
Which Nov 7th is that?
Because last year's game was in Auburn.
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How did we have no where to go but down? I think we had no where to go but up.
2013 featured some fortunate bounces that went our way. But that team had serious flaws. The defense was rather soft for a championship caliber team. The offense was unstoppable but was definitely a single-headed monster (read-option run game).
Malzahn should have been able to start moving this team in a better direction after that season. Better defense, more dynamic offense.
Instead, the defense got worse and the offense has become 2008/2012 bad.
If we can go 9-3, I'll consider it a good year. That would mean wins against all but one of the following: Ole Miss, Alabama, Georgia, and @Texas A&M. 8-4 would at least get me hoping for next year. 7-5 or worse, and I'm thinking about how to plan my Saturdays in fall of 2016 away from college fooball
Not going 9-3. That's a pipe dream.
This season has convinced me to do something I need to do anyway. Will make me $200-500k a year working hard for about two months. I haven't done it because those two months are September and October.
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How did we have no where to go but down? I think we had no where to go but up.
2013 featured some fortunate bounces that went our way. But that team had serious flaws. The defense was rather soft for a championship caliber team. The offense was unstoppable but was definitely a single-headed monster (read-option run game).
Malzahn should have been able to start moving this team in a better direction after that season. Better defense, more dynamic offense.
Instead, the defense got worse and the offense has become 2008/2012 bad.
If we can go 9-3, I'll consider it a good year. That would mean wins against all but one of the following: Ole Miss, Alabama, Georgia, and @Texas A&M. 8-4 would at least get me hoping for next year. 7-5 or worse, and I'm thinking about how to plan my Saturdays in fall of 2016 away from college fooball
My 2015 fall Saturdays have opened up. We have become insanity, doing the same thing that is not working and expecting different results. Right now this team get pounded by Ole miss, Georgia and turds.
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Not going 9-3. That's a pipe dream.
This season has convinced me to do something I need to do anyway. Will make me $200-500k a year working hard for about two months. I haven't done it because those two months are September and October.
Don't know how many times I gots to say it.
(http://www.tigersx.com/images/stateofwoe.png)
Coincidence? I think not!
You do know there is no money to be made building tomato force fields?
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Not going 9-3. That's a pipe dream.
This season has convinced me to do something I need to do anyway. Will make me $200-500k a year working hard for about two months. I haven't done it because those two months are September and October.
I was around the fucker all day Saturday, and had no idea Snags had a chauffeur opening. You think you know people. You think people are your friends. And he goes and does this kind of shit. Enjoy the cavier and fine wine bud. The few, the proud....the friends of Snags.
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Which Nov 7th is that?
Because last year's game was in Auburn.
Stupid Googles. However it was Nov 8th last year so my point still stands.
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All I know is my genius ain't geniusing any more. Don't have a sales receipt either.