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Title: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 13, 2015, 07:59:37 PM
The sky is falling.

But I'm still going to get up for this one. There are only two opponents that emotionally affect me - Alabama and LSU. Georgia's more of a nuisance rivalry than anything.

Here's some food for thought from Philip Marshall:

Quote
Sept. 4, 1999: Auburn 22, Appalachian State (FCS) 15

Auburn was playing Appalachian State in Tommy Tuberville's first game as head coach because of a controversial decision to drop a scheduled game with Florida State. Ben Leard threw a 37-yard touchdown pass to Ronney Daniels with 38 seconds left to break a 15-15 tie and rescue the Tigers.

Earlier in the fourth quarter, disaster almost hit. With the ball at the Auburn 20-yard-line, Leard was not ready when the snap came. Freshman wide receiver Travaris Robinson, who would become an All-SEC safety, beat Appalachian State defenders to the ball and recovered inside the 5-yard line.

http://www.auburntigers.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102513aad.html

What else happened that year that hasn't happened since?

I won't do your homework. Look it up.

We comin'.

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Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: djsimp on September 13, 2015, 08:33:31 PM
I have a good feeling about Auburn beating LSU this Saturday.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 13, 2015, 08:36:05 PM
I have a good feeling about Auburn beating LSU this Saturday.
I want some of the shit you're smoking. Can we meet up tomorrow?
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: DnATL on September 13, 2015, 08:54:11 PM
I want some of the shit you're smoking. Can we meet up tomorrow?
He'll knock you up
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: chinook on September 13, 2015, 09:27:10 PM
I want some of the shit you're smoking. Can we meet up tomorrow?

I'm legal.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: djsimp on September 13, 2015, 09:36:54 PM
I want some of the shit you're smoking. Can we meet up tomorrow?

See chinooks response. He is my dealer.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: AUJarhead on September 14, 2015, 07:36:29 AM
What else happened that year that hasn't happened since?

Auburn victory at Tiger Stadium.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: The Six on September 14, 2015, 08:51:51 AM
(http://img.deseretnews.com/images/top/main/63686/63686.jpg)

I hope Cassanova is ready for this coming at him all day long.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Godfather on September 14, 2015, 09:14:51 AM
Auburn victory at Tiger Stadium.

We win this weekend I'll pass out the cigars.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: chinook on September 14, 2015, 09:18:02 AM
(http://img.deseretnews.com/images/top/main/63686/63686.jpg)

I hope Cassanova is ready for this coming at him all day long.

You're such a Sally.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: djsimp on September 14, 2015, 09:27:41 AM
We win this weekend I'll pass out the cigars.

Well, just to clarify sneaky ass, whom will you be passing these cigars out to?
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Catphish Tilly on September 14, 2015, 09:39:43 AM
I'll be there. I'm not sure of the outcome, but I'll be there.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 14, 2015, 10:18:05 AM
I got a bad feeling about this one. JJ looked rattled in his own stadium against far less competition. I have seen this season before, we keep hoping that the team and coaching staff get their poop together and they never do. If they blow us out I fear Gus loses the team and we may not even make a bowl game.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 14, 2015, 10:19:31 AM
AU rolls in this one, boys.  Look, we won by 7 Saturday and we only played for 3 minutes of that game. 
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 14, 2015, 10:27:55 AM
AU rolls in this one, boys.  Look, we won by 7 Saturday and we only played for 3 minutes of that game.
So less is more? I like it!
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 14, 2015, 10:35:05 AM
Should any team lose to Auburn, shouldn't that team be required to drop football?
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Catphish Tilly on September 14, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
AU rolls in this one, boys.  Look, we won by 7 Saturday and we only played for 3 minutes of that game.

And even that with no quarterback!
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: RottenBottom on September 14, 2015, 10:42:10 AM
Do I need to bring my cigars to Baton Rouge or not?
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 14, 2015, 10:50:31 AM
Do I need to bring my cigars to Baton Rouge or not?

We'll let you know on Saturday at about 6:00.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 14, 2015, 10:59:56 AM
Do I need to bring my cigars to Baton Rouge or not?
Make it Swisher Sweets to be safe. I wouldn't spend a lot.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Jumbo on September 14, 2015, 11:03:14 AM
Over/under on how many 3 and outs we have against Lsu? 10?
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 14, 2015, 11:07:47 AM
Over/under on how many 3 and outs we have against Lsu? 10?



I think an easier bet would be: Who does JJ complete a pass to first, us or them?
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 14, 2015, 12:32:14 PM
Over/under on how many 3 and outs we have against Lsu? 10?

I'll take the over
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 14, 2015, 12:38:27 PM
Over/under on how many 3 and outs we have against Lsu? 10?

I'll take the over

Without a running Q/B to keep the defense honest, this offense is pretty mediocre.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: chinook on September 14, 2015, 01:24:53 PM
Without a running Q/B to keep the defense honest, this offense is pretty mediocre.

that is ridiculous. 

look at Gus' stats at Tulsa and at Arkansas.  power running game and a QB that can throw.  almost equally spread in passing and rushing, i assume. 

our expectations of JJ were never a player to run...throw, yes.  Heisman hopeful got clouded in our brain.  unfortunately, the media relations guy we have on payroll sucks. 

Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: RottenBottom on September 14, 2015, 01:34:32 PM
Without a running Q/B to keep the defense honest, this offense is pretty mediocre.
The problem is the same shitty slant we run to Duke every play.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: AUJarhead on September 14, 2015, 01:38:44 PM
The problem is the same shootty slant we run to Duke every play.

Which we can't execute at all.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 14, 2015, 01:48:00 PM
that is ridiculous. 

look at Gus' stats at Tulsa and at Arkansas.  power running game and a QB that can throw.  almost equally spread in passing and rushing, i assume. 

our expectations of JJ were never a player to run...throw, yes.  Heisman hopeful got clouded in our brain.  unfortunately, the media relations guy we have on payroll sucks.
We weren't too shabby with the rag-armed transfer he started that ran a 6.9 40 either.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: AUChizad on September 14, 2015, 01:55:22 PM
We played (and beat) the mighty Idaho Vandals that year in another parallel.

Lost to Bama, both Mississippi Schools, Arkansas, Florida, & Tennessee, but at least we got it done in Baton Rouge & Athens that year.

Not enough to make a bowl though. Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: chinook on September 14, 2015, 02:03:17 PM
We played (and beat) the mighty Idaho Vandals that year in another parallel.

Lost to Bama, both Mississippi Schools, Arkansas, Florida, & Tennessee, but at least we got it done in Baton Rouge & Athens that year.

Not enough to make a bowl though. Sounds about right.

but we aren't playing Florida and Tennessee.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: AUJarhead on September 14, 2015, 02:21:20 PM
but we aren't playing Florida and Tennessee.

So we could lose to Kentucky and TAMU
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 14, 2015, 02:42:08 PM
I say we open up the playbook and party like it's 2008.
Have some fun.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: djsimp on September 14, 2015, 02:43:49 PM
So we could lose to Kentucky and TAMU

Would that be sort of like losing to the Reds?   :poke:
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: AUJarhead on September 14, 2015, 02:58:46 PM
Would that be sort of like losing to the Reds?   :poke:

Up your butt, Joe Boo.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 14, 2015, 04:58:41 PM
Keys to success against the Corndogs.

1. Get all our players healthy and back on the field, especially on the defensive side of the ball.  I heard today that Justin Garrett went out of the game this past weekend.  That means we were playing without Lawson, Matthews, Holsey, Garrett, Countess (kicked out) and Russell (missed most of the second half)

***Anyone know if Countess is back?  You normally serve a 1/2 game suspension for targeting.  Did the second half count?***

2. Open up the playbook.  Put some damn motion in.  Threaten the speed sweep every play.  Hey, we ran a screen Saturday.  Anyone see that?  Worked damn good too.  When's the last time a true screen was run at Auburn?

3. After you put a more wide open game plan in, go through drill after drill after drill with Johnson.

Is he covered?  Yes?  Option 1 is this guy.  Option 2 is run it if you can. Option 3 is throw it at the fat girl in the stands.  Got it? Good.  We've only run this drill 74 times so far today.  Run it again.  Is he covered?  Yes? ....
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: smooth_operator on September 14, 2015, 05:16:18 PM
Keys to success against the Corndogs.

1. Get all our players healthy and back on the field, especially on the defensive side of the ball.  I heard today that Justin Garrett went out of the game this past weekend.  That means we were playing without Lawson, Matthews, Holsey, Garrett, Countess (kicked out) and Russell (missed most of the second half)

***Anyone know if Countess is back?  You normally serve a 1/2 game suspension for targeting.  Did the second half count?***

2. Open up the playbook.  Put some damn motion in.  Threaten the speed sweep every play.  Hey, we ran a screen Saturday.  Anyone see that?  Worked damn good too.  When's the last time a true screen was run at Auburn?

3. After you put a more wide open game plan in, go through drill after drill after drill with Johnson.

Is he covered?  Yes?  Option 1 is this guy.  Option 2 is run it if you can. Option 3 is throw it at the fat girl in the stands.  Got it? Good.  We've only run this drill 74 times so far today.  Run it again.  Is he covered?  Yes? ....

A good plan but maybe we start even more basic.
"What color is this man's jersey, Jeremy? Good. Now what color jersey are you wearing? Does that make you teammates? Okay, so should you throw them the ball, Jeremy? Great. Now what about this man, what color is his jersey?..."
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: wesfau2 on September 14, 2015, 05:29:45 PM
***Anyone know if Countess is back?  You normally serve a 1/2 game suspension for targeting.  Did the second half count?***

Yes, his absence in the 2nd half satisfies his suspension penalty.  Countess will be back for LSU.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 14, 2015, 05:52:01 PM
I think a key to success is a hurricane. Pray for a hurricane. I hope no one gets hurt but Lord, we could use a hurricane headed straight for Baton Rouge.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 14, 2015, 06:02:35 PM
I think a key to success is a hurricane. Pray for a hurricane. I hope no one gets hurt but Lord, we could use a hurricane headed straight for Baton Rouge.
They have Hurricane Fournette and the over/under is 175.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 14, 2015, 06:04:18 PM
They have Hurricane Fournette and the over/under is 175.
There is no freaking way he runs 175 on us in the first half.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Jumbo on September 14, 2015, 06:29:33 PM
There is no freaking way he runs 175 on us in the first half.
Hopefully
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 14, 2015, 07:36:01 PM
Yes, his absence in the 2nd half satisfies his suspension penalty.  Countess will be back for LSU.

Thank you, sir. :thumsup:
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 14, 2015, 07:47:45 PM
I only watched bits and pieces of the LSU/State game.  From what I saw and read, looked like the Nutrias had control for most of it then State stormed back and could have/should have won the game.  I think I read they missed a 2 point conversion to tie and were set to kick the winning field goal from about the 47 but got a delay of game penalty that took em' out of range.

LSU moved it well on the ground (266 yards) but did diddly through the air (71 yards). State was the polar opposite.  Over 300 through the air (JJ is licking his chops  :facepalm:) and not much at all on the ground.

I did notice in the little I watched that LSU was playing several true freshmen on defense.  Two of which were DB's.  There's not going to be any smoke and mirrors here.  Miles is going to blast it straight at you with big backs, like he always has.  Harris has done exactly squat to show he's worth a damn at QB.  Stack the freakin' box and force Harris to shoulder a lot of the responsibility.   
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 14, 2015, 08:04:02 PM
Keys to success against the Corndogs.

1. Get all our players healthy and back on the field, especially on the defensive side of the ball.  I heard today that Justin Garrett went out of the game this past weekend.  That means we were playing without Lawson, Matthews, Holsey, Garrett, Countess (kicked out) and Russell (missed most of the second half)

***Anyone know if Countess is back?  You normally serve a 1/2 game suspension for targeting.  Did the second half count?***

2. Open up the playbook.  Put some damn motion in.  Threaten the speed sweep every play.  Hey, we ran a screen Saturday.  Anyone see that?  Worked damn good too.  When's the last time a true screen was run at Auburn?

3. After you put a more wide open game plan in, go through drill after drill after drill with Johnson.

Is he covered?  Yes?  Option 1 is this guy.  Option 2 is run it if you can. Option 3 is throw it at the fat girl in the stands.  Got it? Good.  We've only run this drill 74 times so far today.  Run it again.  Is he covered?  Yes? ....
We don't have enough bodies for this defense to hold up long. We still need to rack up scores anyway we can. I'm with you 120% on the playbook. Don't know how many wins this team has in it but we need far more point production. Seriously, Fournette can run for 200 and we can still win. We just have to score every time we get the fucking ball. 
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Godfather on September 14, 2015, 08:51:33 PM
Problem is you actually think the playbook isn't open? I thought JJ had been there 2 years and knew the playbook like the back of his hand.

I still think our biggest problem is on the offensive side of the ball.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Kaos on September 14, 2015, 09:03:57 PM
Problem is you actually think the playbook isn't open? I thought JJ had been there 2 years and knew the playbook like the back of his hand.

I still think our biggest problem is on the offensive side of the ball.

Yep. 

Let's reassess.  We aren't going to beat LSU.  Unless things change dramatically we won't beat Ole Miss or A&M either. 

Say what you want about the defense doing this or that or the other, it's by god decent enough to keep us in games.  We're not going to give up 56 to anybody this season.  We'll keep people under 30 and given the offensive firepower we've come to expect?  That should be plenty good. 

But it won't be.  Because we're borderline Moseley bad.  Barrett Trotter would have put 50 on KSU and 45 on Louisville. So would Chris Todd.  Cam? Marshall?  70s.  Think about that. 

Johnson may be a great practice player but so far when you turn the lights on he turns into a fucking pumpkin.  If there's a worse QB in the SEC right now, I haven't seen him. 

That has nothing to do with the allegedly cancerous Duke.  Because Williams isn't making him throw the ball right to the other team and think "all the greats do it."  The fucking GREATS?  Christ almighty.  I struck out a shit ton the last year I played competitive baseball.  I guess I was one of the greats, too, because as we know Reggie Jackson and Big Papi are not immune from whiffing a time or two.

FUCK.  I said I wasn't going to care, but Jesus Hoosous. 

Malzahn's post-game conference was an embarrassment. He obviously had no clue why what happened happened.  And Jeremy "One of the Greats" Johnson obviously forgot he'd just survived the fighting Cocks. 

AAARRGGGHHHH.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 14, 2015, 09:42:54 PM
Problem is you actually think the playbook isn't open? I thought JJ had been there 2 years and knew the playbook like the back of his hand.

I still think our biggest problem is on the offensive side of the ball.
Agree but every HC always yaps about putting their players in the best position to succeed and we are  only scratching the surface as far as what we've seen with Malzahn's offenses. That Todd run offense was a thing of beauty. Lots of window dressing? You bet, but the fuckers fell for then and the'll fall for it now.
We just need to stay away from the slow developing plays, deep handoffs and stupid deep pass attempts when we need only 6 or 7 yards for a 1st down.
Having JJ run the read option is really counterproductive. He needs to deal the ball in space to the twelve or so weapons he has and we need to lean on Barber for quick bursts. If we rush the ball 35 times and Barber totes it 20, we still have to account for 30+ plays and that leaves a heap of room for short/intermediate passes along with some shots deep. We lack a prolific run game but we also don't want JJ throwing it that much. So where is the rest of the offense?  We saw bits and pieces this past week.
This much: If JJ has this offense down, the playcalling is severely lacking. 
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 14, 2015, 09:49:37 PM

AAARRGGGHHHH.
Dammit. JJ and Gus done made Kaos turn into a pirate.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: chinook on September 14, 2015, 11:34:51 PM
Dammit. JJ and Gus done made Kaos turn into a pirate.

What is a pirate's favorite letter?
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 15, 2015, 12:00:23 AM
Just watched the AU/JSU game again.  Total reversal. First off, I watched this game and specifically JJ's performance and the announcer's comments.  Yep,,,he had a total brain fart and threw directly to a JSU defender. Let's break something down first.  Everyone said he locks in.  Sorry..watch the replay. Kamryn Pettway was his second option.  He looked to him after looking his initial receiver off and mistakenly pulled the trigger. The other..he misread the LB who made a great play.  The color guy said it's in his head.  Fuck him!

Now...otherwise...I dare you to show me where he wasn't solid. He threw a beautiful strike to Roc for 6.  He hit Melvin IN..THE...CLUTCH..for the wining score.  Second half..he had several times where he either hit his guy or ran it, or threw it away.  Go back and watch it.  This game was about our defense. Period!!!  Not JJ.  Not the greatest game but GO  BACK  AND  WATCH. You won't put this on Jeremy Johnson.

Bottom line...we take Red Stick by storm.  Go back and watch it!!   

   
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Jumbo on September 15, 2015, 03:05:15 AM
I'm with Snaggs, We're good again!  :thumsup:
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 15, 2015, 05:12:21 AM
I'm with Snaggs, We're good again!  :thumsup:
Hooray boys! We don't suck as much.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 15, 2015, 07:20:02 AM
Just watched the AU/JSU game again.  Total reversal. First off, I watched this game and specifically JJ's performance and the announcer's comments.  Yep,,,he had a total brain fart and threw directly to a JSU defender. Let's break something down first.  Everyone said he locks in.  Sorry..watch the replay. Kamryn Pettway was his second option.  He looked to him after looking his initial receiver off and mistakenly pulled the trigger. The other..he misread the LB who made a great play.  The color guy said it's in his head.  Fuck him!

Now...otherwise...I dare you to show me where he wasn't solid. He threw a beautiful strike to Roc for 6.  He hit Melvin IN..THE...CLUTCH..for the wining score.  Second half..he had several times where he either hit his guy or ran it, or threw it away.  Go back and watch it.  This game was about our defense. Period!!!  Not JJ.  Not the greatest game but GO  BACK  AND  WATCH. You won't put this on Jeremy Johnson.

Bottom line...we take Red Stick by storm.  Go back and watch it!!   

 
I know JJ talk has hurt you deeply because--and we're tying to break this gently but he may not lead us to the playoffs.

Srsly Snags. You are making excuses for him. He's had some good plays but 5 picks is bad. Really bad. And I don't care about the rest if there is 5 picks.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 15, 2015, 07:35:05 AM
I know JJ talk has hurt you deeply because--and we're tying to break this gently but he may not lead us to the playoffs.

Srsly Snags. You are making excuses for him. He's had some good plays but 5 picks is bad. Really bad. And I don't care about the rest if there is 5 picks.
Still if he is our guy he needs to keep chucking. We haven't seen the QB draw, reverses, involvement of the TE and barely any throws toward the sidelines. He needs to stay away from middle and better play selection will go a long way.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 15, 2015, 07:49:23 AM
What is a pirate's favorite letter?
B? For booty.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: The Six on September 15, 2015, 07:56:14 AM
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Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Catphish Tilly on September 15, 2015, 08:40:02 AM
Still if he is our guy he needs to keep chucking. We haven't seen the QB draw, reverses, involvement of the TE and barely any throws toward the sidelines. He needs to stay away from middle and better play selection will go a long way.

You are darn right. And let's not forget we haven't seen him line up at receiver and catch a pass thrown by a defensive back who was lateraled to by a water boy yet either. There is a lot left in the tank for Gus and JJ! Our time is now.
:wartim: :thumsup:
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: GH2001 on September 15, 2015, 08:51:11 AM
Just watched the AU/JSU game again.  Total reversal. First off, I watched this game and specifically JJ's performance and the announcer's comments.  Yep,,,he had a total brain fart and threw directly to a JSU defender. Let's break something down first.  Everyone said he locks in.  Sorry..watch the replay. Kamryn Pettway was his second option.  He looked to him after looking his initial receiver off and mistakenly pulled the trigger. The other..he misread the LB who made a great play.  The color guy said it's in his head.  Fuck him!

Now...otherwise...I dare you to show me where he wasn't solid. He threw a beautiful strike to Roc for 6.  He hit Melvin IN..THE...CLUTCH..for the wining score.  Second half..he had several times where he either hit his guy or ran it, or threw it away.  Go back and watch it.  This game was about our defense. Period!!!  Not JJ.  Not the greatest game but GO  BACK  AND  WATCH. You won't put this on Jeremy Johnson.

Bottom line...we take Red Stick by storm.  Go back and watch it!!   

 

Not sure if serious or not, and you my boy blue....but, NO.

Could not disagree more. We should always hang 40+ on an FCS team. ALWAYS. And with the talent we have now especially. as K said, the D wasnt great but was good enough - esp with lawson, tray and countess out. We give up 20, we should always win handily, and even moreso against an FCS school.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 15, 2015, 09:53:13 AM
Not sure if serious or not, and you my boy blue....but, NO.

Could not disagree more. We should always hang 40+ on an FCS team. ALWAYS. And with the talent we have now especially. as K said, the D wasnt great but was good enough - esp with lawson, tray and countess out. We give up 20, we should always win handily, and even moreso against an FCS school.

I'm not saying the guy had a great game. Just not the debacle so many have claimed.  And the "head case" comments by some are laughable.  You don't make the throws he made if you have the yips, especially at the end.   And I've harped on the fact that we had numerous starters out on the defense. Regardless, we should still have the athletes to roll em'...but we didn't.  20 points given up is not all that relevant when JSU ran 89 plays and weren't forced to punt until the 4th quarter.

Now, having said that....yeah...the "taking Red Stick by storm" was me dreaming of Care Bears and dolphins riding unicorns through the clouds.  But, I do think we can limit JJ to 2....3 interceptions, tops on Saturday.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: AUChizad on September 15, 2015, 09:53:17 AM
Just watched the AU/JSU game again.  Total reversal. First off, I watched this game and specifically JJ's performance and the announcer's comments.  Yep,,,he had a total brain fart and threw directly to a JSU defender. Let's break something down first.  Everyone said he locks in.  Sorry..watch the replay. Kamryn Pettway was his second option.  He looked to him after looking his initial receiver off and mistakenly pulled the trigger. The other..he misread the LB who made a great play.  The color guy said it's in his head.  Fuck him!

Now...otherwise...I dare you to show me where he wasn't solid. He threw a beautiful strike to Roc for 6.  He hit Melvin IN..THE...CLUTCH..for the wining score.  Second half..he had several times where he either hit his guy or ran it, or threw it away.  Go back and watch it.  This game was about our defense. Period!!!  Not JJ.  Not the greatest game but GO  BACK  AND  WATCH. You won't put this on Jeremy Johnson.

Bottom line...we take Red Stick by storm.  Go back and watch it!!   

 
Yeah...I watched the Louisville opener again and felt like this in the face of everyone blaming Johnson then. Granted, I didn't rewatch this one because I couldn't stomach it. But he looked like shit for 90+% of last week's game. The ints weren't even some of the worst throws. How about the two to Duke in a row that was EXACTLY the same play, that resulted in EXACTLY the same result. 20 feet over his head BOTH TIMES. Or the pass to the dirt 5 yards in front of wide ass open (Barber? Was it?). He was not good.

That said, I still don't think it's something impossible for him to shake. I also can see us using last week as a wake-up call, beating the pants off of LSU in Red Stick, and ESPN review show analysts scratching their heads about our Jeckyll & Hyde team. But I can just as easily see us tripping all over our dicks and having sorted nothing out, and the events of last Saturday being more psychologically damaging to that team than helping it. It's a crapshoot at this point. One thing's for sure, we won't know which extreme, or somewhere in the middle, is the reality until Saturday.

All I know is that I don't know nothin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HtUnubXAO4
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 15, 2015, 12:09:17 PM
B? For booty.

Arrrrrgh...everybody knows it's C
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: GH2001 on September 15, 2015, 12:50:52 PM
I'm not saying the guy had a great game. Just not the debacle so many have claimed.  And the "head case" comments by some are laughable.  You don't make the throws he made if you have the yips, especially at the end.   And I've harped on the fact that we had numerous starters out on the defense. Regardless, we should still have the athletes to roll em'...but we didn't.  20 points given up is not all that relevant when JSU ran 89 plays and weren't forced to punt until the 4th quarter.

Now, having said that....yeah...the "taking Red Stick by storm" was me dreaming of Care Bears and dolphins riding unicorns through the clouds.  But, I do think we can limit JJ to 2....3 interceptions, tops on Saturday.

Our O going three and out way too much has a lot to do with that though.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 15, 2015, 01:51:10 PM
Our O going three and out way too much has a lot to do with that though.


Pffffft.  We only went 3 and out like.....7 times.  9 at the most.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Godfather on September 15, 2015, 01:53:17 PM
Our O going three and out way too much has a lot to do with that though.
So do Turnovers 3 of those.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: djsimp on September 15, 2015, 02:03:45 PM
Rudy Ford says stopping Fournette shouldnt be much of a challenge.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/9/15/9331991/auburn-rudy-ford-lsu-leonard-fournette-whoops-bad-idea

Is Ford a psychology major?
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 15, 2015, 02:08:12 PM
Rudy Ford says stopping Fournette shouldnt be much of a challenge.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/9/15/9331991/auburn-rudy-ford-lsu-leonard-fournette-whoops-bad-idea

Is Ford a psychology major?

Well we do have a recent history of such balderdashery.  Remember how we were "Going to treat Amari Cooper like any other receiver"?
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 15, 2015, 02:11:56 PM
Well we do have a recent history of such balderdashery.  Remember how we were "Going to treat Amari Cooper like any other receiver"?
Yes and it worked like a charm.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 15, 2015, 02:16:13 PM
Yes and it worked like a charm.

To be fair, Fournette is no Troymaine Pope.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Godfather on September 15, 2015, 02:51:58 PM
Rudy Ford says stopping Fournette shouldnt be much of a challenge.

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/9/15/9331991/auburn-rudy-ford-lsu-leonard-fournette-whoops-bad-idea

Is Ford a psychology major?

I almost posted that because someone sent me the story, but don't be fooled that is al.com sensationalism at its best. 

If you read the whole story and quote Ford was referring to his own team being "ready" for Fournette, not that it would be an easy task, but that it would be "easy" for them to get ready as in motivation.

"That shouldn't be difficult, that much, of a challenge," Auburn safety Rudy Ford said. "We've got a great front seven and even on the back end we're all going to be ready to tackle, but our biggest thing is our energy level. As soon as we get off that bus, we're ready to tackle. Don't take anything lightly. We all have to be ready to go."

"The challenge is stopping No. 7," Ford said. "We have to get ready. It's going to be a big, physical game, get ready for pounding and that's what we're going to get ready for."
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 15, 2015, 03:00:17 PM
I almost posted that because someone sent me the story, but don't be fooled that is al.com sensationalism at its best. 

If you read the whole story and quote Ford was referring to his own team being "ready" for Fournette, not that it would be an easy task, but that it would be "easy" for them to get ready as in motivation.

"That shouldn't be difficult, that much, of a challenge," Auburn safety Rudy Ford said. "We've got a great front seven and even on the back end we're all going to be ready to tackle, but our biggest thing is our energy level. As soon as we get off that bus, we're ready to tackle. Don't take anything lightly. We all have to be ready to go."

"The challenge is stopping No. 7," Ford said. "We have to get ready. It's going to be a big, physical game, get ready for pounding and that's what we're going to get ready for."
So it's true...Rudy says he's gonna anihilate Fournette.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 15, 2015, 03:07:34 PM
I almost posted that because someone sent me the story, but don't be fooled that is al.com sensationalism at its best. 

If you read the whole story and quote Ford was referring to his own team being "ready" for Fournette, not that it would be an easy task, but that it would be "easy" for them to get ready as in motivation.

"That shouldn't be difficult, that much, of a challenge," Auburn safety Rudy Ford said. "We've got a great front seven and even on the back end we're all going to be ready to tackle, but our biggest thing is our energy level. As soon as we get off that bus, we're ready to tackle. Don't take anything lightly. We all have to be ready to go."

"The challenge is stopping No. 7," Ford said. "We have to get ready. It's going to be a big, physical game, get ready for pounding and that's what we're going to get ready for."

I fired off a tersely worded email to Mr. Marcello.  I suspect a clarification is forthcoming. 
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 15, 2015, 03:12:52 PM
I fired off a tersely worded email to Mr. Marcello.  I suspect a clarification is forthcoming.
Cease and desist bitch...or else. 
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: djsimp on September 15, 2015, 03:18:17 PM
I almost posted that because someone sent me the story, but don't be fooled that is al.com sensationalism at its best. 

If you read the whole story and quote Ford was referring to his own team being "ready" for Fournette, not that it would be an easy task, but that it would be "easy" for them to get ready as in motivation.

"That shouldn't be difficult, that much, of a challenge," Auburn safety Rudy Ford said. "We've got a great front seven and even on the back end we're all going to be ready to tackle, but our biggest thing is our energy level. As soon as we get off that bus, we're ready to tackle. Don't take anything lightly. We all have to be ready to go."

"The challenge is stopping No. 7," Ford said. "We have to get ready. It's going to be a big, physical game, get ready for pounding and that's what we're going to get ready for."

Honestly, after watching what dual threat QBs have done to AU so far, I'd rather LSU keep feeding the rock to #7.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 15, 2015, 03:20:51 PM
Clarification received.  Just got back from washing the egg off my face.  Marcello responded and asked me to watch the video.  Yep, that's exactly what Ford said. 
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Catphish Tilly on September 15, 2015, 03:37:16 PM
Clarification received.  Just got back from washing the egg off my face.  Marcello responded and asked me to watch the video.  Yep, that's exactly what Ford said.

You'll get nothing and like it.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: AUChizad on September 15, 2015, 04:30:38 PM
Clarification received.  Just got back from washing the egg off my face.  Marcello responded and asked me to watch the video.  Yep, that's exactly what Ford said.
I was about to lay into him on teh twatters, but it's clearly what Rudy said.

The question was "You started off saying you have to stop #7. How difficult of a challenge will that be Saturday?" His answer was "Nah, that shouldn't be that difficult, that much of a challenge." and went into how great the front 7 is.

Gotta spin pretty hard to say his quote was misrepresented.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 15, 2015, 04:37:51 PM
I was about to lay into him on teh twatters, but it's clearly what Rudy said.

The question was "You started off saying you have to stop #7. How difficult of a challenge will that be Saturday?" His answer was "Nah, that shouldn't be that difficult, that much of a challenge." and went into how great the front 7 is.

Gotta spin pretty hard to say his quote was misrepresented.


Thanks a lot, GF.  Do you know how much I hate crow?
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 15, 2015, 04:50:53 PM
I fired off a tersely worded email to Mr. Marcello.  I suspect a clarification is forthcoming.
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/d06f347fbcc21245fa2916093b719e26/tumblr_inline_mfo0k6Zs5B1rcx3nf.gif)
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Godfather on September 15, 2015, 05:04:28 PM
I was about to lay into him on teh twatters, but it's clearly what Rudy said.

The question was "You started off saying you have to stop #7. How difficult of a challenge will that be Saturday?" His answer was "Nah, that shouldn't be that difficult, that much of a challenge." and went into how great the front 7 is.

Gotta spin pretty hard to say his quote was misrepresented.
Fuck him and al.com anyways.

He was pretty complimentary of Fournette in his other quotes. I honestly don't think he meant it that way.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 15, 2015, 09:23:21 PM
Fuck him and al.com anyways.

He was pretty complimentary of Fournette in his other quotes. I honestly don't think he meant it that way.
You almost get Snags ass kicked by a writer named Brandon and this is your stance?
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: djsimp on September 15, 2015, 10:48:44 PM
Spin continues to start of the local news sports segment with a last few words of what Ford really meant. Typical. Got to get dem ratings before the truth be told.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: AUChizad on September 16, 2015, 12:19:20 PM
Hope?

Link from last year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2014/08/18/analysis-auburn-tigers-gus-malzahn-nick-marshall/14255825/

Quote
Circumstances may change, but Auburn's potency won't
 George Schroeder, USA TODAY Sports 1:04 a.m.

AUBURN, Ala. — The notion makes Gus Malzahn bristle. Auburn's run last season was a great story. It produced fantastic moments that will linger forever in college football's collective memory. But could it have been, well, a fluke?

This season, as the narrative goes, the schedule flips. Rivals will catch up to the Tigers' uptempo offense. Luck won't bounce their way. And – well, if you want to get Malzahn started, start with those premises.

"Sometimes it just gets the best of me," the usually stoic coach says — and he doesn't go further.

But the idea that in 2014 opponents will turn things around and get the best of Auburn? Malzahn clearly doesn't expect that to go far, either.

Not many saw the Tigers' turnaround, from 0-8 in the SEC to the BCS national championship game, coming. Even Malzahn says at this time last year, Auburn's coaches were still learning what they had and had no idea what might be possible.


That included at quarterback. Nick Marshall had just arrived on campus. He was just beginning to learn the offense. Coaches were just starting to figure out what the former defensive back could (and maybe couldn't) do.

Now, Marshall is seen as a potential Heisman Trophy candidate, despite his offseason citation for marijuana possession (as punishment, he won't start the opener against Arkansas). He'll lead a talented bunch that fully expects to pick up where last season left off — and, according to Malzahn, is motivated by what was almost accomplished.

"The fact we went to the national championship game and came up that close, came up short — you don't think about anything else except how you felt that last game," Malzahn says.

The "Kick-Six" is immortalized in several photographs around the Auburn Athletic Complex — including in the indoor practice facility, where a super-sized photo of the mosh pit Jordan-Hare Stadium became afterward.

"It's always gonna be part of our tradition," Malzahn says. "It is what it is."

What it wasn't, Malzahn insists, was a fluke. If it had gone to overtime?

Auburn had momentum and the home crowd and had put up 296 rushing yards against Alabama. "You rush for 300 yards in this league," he says, "you're gonna win."


For a lucky bounce, there was the scene two weeks earlier, when Marshall's desperation heave was deflected by two Georgia defensive backs into the hands of Ricardo Louis for a 73-yard touchdown. But Malzahn won't go there, either.

"There was a lot of hard work last year," he says. "We have a lot of guys back with experience, and big-game experience — numerous times, they found ways to win."

They'll have to find more ways. Based on preseason polls (Auburn is ranked No. 5 in the Amway Coaches Poll and No. 6 in the Associated Press media poll), not many expect a significant decline. But there are questions.

Although the bulk of the depth chart returns, notable losses include running back Tre Mason, a Heisman finalist last season whose emergence as one of the nation's best running backs fueled the Tigers' run, as well as offensive tackle Greg Robinson and defensive lineman Dee Ford. Although the bulk of the nucleus returns, as many as five returning starters could miss at least part of the season opener against Arkansas because of injury, suspension or other issues.

More critical, Auburn will face seven opponents who are currently ranked in the preseason polls. And, where the Tigers hosted Alabama and Georgia last season, they must go on the road for those games this fall. Tennessee rotates off the schedule, replaced by South Carolina, which along with Georgia is considered a favorite to win the SEC East. And there's also a nonconference game at Kansas State.

"It's unbelievable," Malzahn told SiriusXM Radio on Monday. "It's the 'who's who.' ... We're going to have to earn it."

There's also the continuing question of whether defenses will catch the Tigers, or at least slow them down. First, though, we should ask: What is the offense? Last year, Auburn led the nation in rushing — oddly, becoming the first SEC team to achieve that feat (which Malzahn says is "a testament to the defenses in this league"). But at Tulsa, Malzahn's quarterbacks passed their way to success.

Aside from prolific yards and points, there has been only one offensive consistent in Malzahn's eight seasons as a college coach. The goal, Malzahn says, is always "execution at a faster rate."

Even before last season had ended, Malzahn and others were privately saying they would pass much more this season. Malzahn says Marshall "learned the offense on Saturdays" last fall. It worked fairly well, but there was a fairly significant early-season revision. After a September loss to LSU, coaches retooled the offense. After throwing 103 passes in Auburn's first four games, Marshall threw 109 in their final eight of the regular season.

Turned out, Marshall ran the zone read very well. Mason emerged as one of the nation's best players. The Tigers gradually morphed into a nearly unstoppable unit.


Malzahn sees no reason why it can't happen again. The questions won't be answered for a few more weeks. In the end, there's at least this:

"Last year, we weren't even getting talked about," Malzahn says. "We have our program back where it needs to be. In the mix. In the discussion."
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Godfather on September 16, 2015, 12:31:39 PM
Hope?

Link from last year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2014/08/18/analysis-auburn-tigers-gus-malzahn-nick-marshall/14255825/

So you are saying you hope Jeremy gets hurt during LSU?   











Ha ha I keed......or do I?  :drevil:
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: GH2001 on September 16, 2015, 12:36:12 PM
Hope?

Link from last year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/sec/2014/08/18/analysis-auburn-tigers-gus-malzahn-nick-marshall/14255825/

Except JJ has tried the read option and failed horribly. NM ran it to a T. They hit on something with him. JJ is a pure drop back passer and is failing at that also. NM did something well , and they rolled with it. Just not sure I see that opportunity here.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Catphish Tilly on September 16, 2015, 01:14:32 PM
Chris Todd was slow as pond water but had a pump fake that broke ankles. Cam and Nick mastered the read option. Trotter and Mosley the fetal position. Surely JJ has SOME knack, besides saving the punter's leg, that the coaches can roll with to some consistency. Though I would've expected that to be determined prior to the season.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Godfather on September 16, 2015, 01:20:00 PM
Except JJ has tried the read option and failed horribly. NM ran it to a T. They hit on something with him. JJ is a pure drop back passer and is failing at that also. NM did something well , and they rolled with it. Just not sure I see that opportunity here.

(http://content.etilize.com/images/900/1011914334.jpg)??
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: GH2001 on September 16, 2015, 01:25:13 PM
(http://content.etilize.com/images/900/1011914334.jpg)??

Exactly.

As Catphish said, I thought they would have found his sweet spot by now. Its troubling that he has no identity. They hit gold with NM after LSU. Watching he and Cam run that thing was something of beauty. I just dont see what JJ's strength is, and by Gus trying to get him to run NM's offensive set, it tells me he doesnt know what it is either. The kid makes bad decisions. If the last two games were against Bama and LSU, I would slow my roll some. But if he is getting rattled by FCS teams and having issues with the "speed of the game" against them? Fuck sakes, shoot me now. Thats Moseley/Frazier-esque. I DO HOPE he turns it around. I just dont have much hope. Stranger things have happened.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 16, 2015, 02:15:21 PM
I want JJ to look at recvs. A and B then run it. He might fuck up and misread some and carry if 10-12 times a game even until he sees things better but this offense will be far better if he has to be accounted for. His handler's just need to use this as a condition for staying on the field. The guy just has too much talent to fail him as a coach. And that's what it would be!

Moreover I'm all but certain Gus and Lashlee are in agreement that if they can't get good QB play out of this guy, they oughta get out of coaching.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 17, 2015, 01:39:03 PM
I want JJ to look at recvs. A and B then run it. He might fuck up and misread some and carry if 10-12 times a game even until he sees things better but this offense will be far better if he has to be accounted for. His handler's just need to use this as a condition for staying on the field. The guy just has too much talent to fail him as a coach. And that's what it would be!

Moreover I'm all but certain Gus and Lashlee are in agreement that if they can't get good QB play out of this guy, they oughta get out of coaching.
I think the biggest difference in Cam/Nick running the zone read and JJ running it is that when they made the right decision to keep it was either a long gain or TD. With JJ, it will be a 2 yrd. gain. Just not much upside in his running a lot of zone read, imo.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: jmar on September 17, 2015, 02:30:37 PM
I think the biggest difference in Cam/Nick running the zone read and JJ running it is that when they made the right decision to keep it was either a long gain or TD. With JJ, it will be a 2 yrd. gain. Just not much upside in his running a lot of zone read, imo.
Don't have personnel to run zone read effectively where we could consistently move the chains.
Hell our defensive front is much better suited to rush a passer.
We have some real challenges beyond depth and health.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: GH2001 on September 17, 2015, 03:23:06 PM
Don't have personnel to run zone read effectively where we could consistently move the chains.
Hell our defensive front is much better suited to rush a passer.
We have some real challenges beyond depth and health.

yes we do. just isnt on the 2 deep at qb
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 17, 2015, 03:27:36 PM
yes we do. just isnt on the 2 deep at qb
So, 3 deep? Hey, Queeeeen!!! Or, guys that aren't even on the depth chart, I assume, with Smith or Wallace? I would assume you're talking about Smith.

Wouldn't surprise me at all to see some of him on Saturday. Wouldn't mind that at all.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: GH2001 on September 17, 2015, 03:42:03 PM
So, 3 deep? Hey, Queeeeen!!! Or, guys that aren't even on the depth chart, I assume, with Smith or Wallace? I would assume you're talking about Smith.

Wouldn't surprise me at all to see some of him on Saturday. Wouldn't mind that at all.

Smith is a helluva athlete. NM caliber type athlete.
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: smooth_operator on September 17, 2015, 04:12:00 PM
So, 3 deep? Hey, Queeeeen!!! Or, guys that aren't even on the depth chart, I assume, with Smith or Wallace? I would assume you're talking about Smith.

Wouldn't surprise me at all to see some of him on Saturday. Wouldn't mind that at all.

Tyroil Smoochie-Wallace? Baller
Title: Re: Time to Man Up - It's LSU Week
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 17, 2015, 04:39:45 PM
Tyroil Smoochie-Wallace? Baller

Don't forget that D'Glester Hardunkichud has really been pushing Smoochie-Wallace.  Many say he's the next Ozamatz Buckshank.