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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on August 27, 2015, 08:48:25 AM
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They started early this time.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/at-auburn-athletics-and-academics-collide-1440635278
Fear. They're afraid of us (again).
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Athletes take easy classes? Clutch the pearls!
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What a story about nothing.
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Athletes take easy classes? Clutch the pearls!
And This^^^
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Shocking
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This is the second time this assclown decided to "expose" Auburn for doing what every other program does.
Back in 2014 he wrote a huge piece bringing to light the fact that after a 3-9 season, Auburn didn't sell out season tickets and the remainder were bought by boosters.
His asinine premise is that if Auburn had waited until the season played out, the AD could have raised prices on the tickets and gotten even more money than if they'd made sure they were sold prior to the year.
Fuckwad. And what if the season didn't play out the way it did and those tickets remained unsold?
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T-Rex is angry on twatters.
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T-Rex is angry on twatters.
Is he reaching out to anyone for support?
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:yawn:
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http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2015/8/27/9214423/business-as-usual-at-auburn-public-administration-is-the-new-sociology
Business As Usual At Auburn - Public Administration Is The New Sociology
By Erik Evans @gothlaw on Aug 27, 2015, 8:46a
Wait, they have to read? - Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images
Predictably, Auburn partisans see no problem.
What is the least funny joke?
One that endures long past its sell-by date.
Like "deez nuts," "BOFA," "Bye, Felicia" or any other mindless half-baked meme you want to conjure up, Auburn University's athletics department is again monkeying in the academic side of the university. Having already dealt with SACS accreditation issues (founded,) impropriety in its sociology and criminology programs (founded,) and a million other academic fracases, now Auburn athletics finds itself in the spotlight for trying to save Public Administration.
This is despite that fact that the program was labeled by the faculty and academic administration as a curriculum that did not meet nor contribute to Auburn's mission as, well, you know -- a college.
Report: Auburn athletics tried to save athlete-heavy major
An extensive report Wednesday by The Wall Street Journal revealed that in 2013 the Auburn athletic department influenced top administrators to overrule the university curriculum review committee's vote to eliminate a public administration class that was not considered to be fulfilling the school's academic mission.
Think that's bad? Well, it gets worse.
Based on internal documents obtained by The Journal, top athletic officials offered to use athletic department funds to help pay professors and staff instead. Of the 111 students majoring in public administration in the fall of 2013, 51% were student-athletes.
That's right. Public Administration was so valuable to the football staff specifically (38% of the program's majors are football players) that Auburn's athletics department offered to pay educators to specifically not educate Auburn "student" athletes.
Think that's hyperbole? It absolutely is not.
At Auburn, Athletics and Academics Collide - WSJ
“If the public administration program is eliminated, the [graduation success rate] numbers for our student-athletes will likely decline,†a December 2012 internal athletic department memo said.
Oh, hey! We're not really giving people an education, and it's awful that the curriculum committee wants to scrap the whole sordid undertaking, but, by all means our APR and eligibility has to be aided somehow, and what better way than a series of sociology courses that the athletics department wants to pay for, because they know and have stated in writing their "students" need in order to graduate.
The WSJ piece is especially damning too in that Auburn officials admit that this was not the first such program that the athletics department was willing to support from its coffers. Those other programs were not disclosed, but the AD did cryptically suggest "[those programs] did not receive media attention."
What's the reaction at the Loveliest Trailer Park on the Plains? About what you'd expect.
Coffee and Magnolia: 27 August 2015. The Wall Street Journal Article and the Usual Stuff - College and Magnolia
The "outrage" from fans of other schools is stupid, too. Their ADs would do the same thing in the same situation. The fact that the athletic department offered to subsidize the major (the offer was rejected) makes me even less upset about it. If there's proof that this major gave easy grades, fake classes, etc (none of which has been alleged that I'm aware of), then I'll get outraged. But just lobbying to save a major that a large number of your athletes are in? Meh.
If anything, the story here is not that administrators tried (and successfully) pressured administrators to save certain courses in public administration. The story is the exact one CAM and others want to minimize: comingling of athletics funds to retain a major at Auburn that serves no academic mission. With that form of "meh" attitude, is it a wonder that Gene Chizik wound up at UNC, an institution facing NCAA penalties for sham courses, sham majors, non-attendance "classes" and a host of infractions that would arouse Barry Switzer.
Well, I'll give the Auburn PA grads this: When they go pro in something other than football, and are installed in city governments throughout Alabama and Georgia, they will have a head start on operating in an environment of deeply-instilled cronyism, corruption and cynicism.
https://twitter.com/rollbamaroll/status/636904162442153984
I know we're going to get "hater" tweets for the AU story. But Auburn is not a rival, the Vols are a rival. Auburn is the Big Lots of rivals
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http://www.rollbamaroll.com/2015/8/27/9214423/business-as-usual-at-auburn-public-administration-is-the-new-sociology
https://twitter.com/rollbamaroll/status/636904162442153984
Now that the credible media are on to the story, I'm quivering in my underoos.
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Guys, I'm about to get onto twitter and ruffle some feathers. You may want to stand back. This could get ugly. I have some statistics and everything.
Avoid any insensitive tweets.
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Guys, I'm about to get onto twitter and ruffle some feathers. You may want to stand back. This could get ugly. I have some statistics and everything.
how about shooting yourself in the head with a gun? or slit your wrists? or jump in front of a locomotive? or take heavy dose of rat poison?
shit is getting old.
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Here's what I think is a fair look at it from Kevin Scrablinskini.
Gene Chizik was the head football coach at Auburn. He is the defensive coordinator at North Carolina.
That, boys and girls, qualifies as an actual, factual link between the football programs at those two universities.
As opposed to, say, a nice, juicy insinuation by a major national publication that the Tigers and the Tar Heels maybe, possibly, could be linked by something more.
Like academic fraud.
Oh, The Wall Street Journal didn't use those exact words or make that direct charge in its story titled, "At Auburn, Athletics and Academics Collide," but the suggestion of a connection wasn't entirely subtle.
Witness this paragraph dropped into the middle of a story that's otherwise exclusively about Auburn.
For as long as universities have fielded big-time sports programs, many star athletes have gravitated to a handful of friendly majors that make it easier for them to meet the NCAA's academic eligibility requirements. At some schools, these majors have come under intense scrutiny. An internal investigation at North Carolina last year found that many football and basketball players were enrolled in "no attendance" classes in the African and Afro-American Studies department, where the only requirement was the submission of a single research paper. The NCAA has told North Carolina it is investigating the matter.
Wait. What?
Actually, the NCAA hit North Carolina in June with a Notice of Allegations alleging major violations, including a lack of institutional control, stemming from no-show classes and bogus grades that kept UNC athletes eligible for years.
But since The Wall Street Journal just happened to mention the North Carolina scandal, this story must've made similar allegations about Auburn, right?
Um, no. Not exactly.
This story is an interesting and well-documented investigative piece that makes two key points: 1.) Auburn football players in recent years have clustered in the public administration major; and 2.) After the school began a move in 2012 to eliminate that major, the athletics department rallied to save it, in part by offering to help pay for it.
The story says the school declined the financial assistance but retained the major.
That financial offer seems a bit unusual and presents at least the appearance of a conflict of interest. Was the athletics department throwing its weight around on an academic matter where it didn't belong? Were the athletics department and the administration complicit in preserving an easy major so some key football players wouldn't be overwhelmed by academic responsibilities during their pursuit of SEC and national championships?
Those are legitimate questions the story raises, but they're probably of more interest to SACS, the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, than the NCAA. It's a long way from saving a less-than-rigorous major to committing academic fraud. That distance rivals the career arc from national championship head coach to second-chance defensive coordinator.
Now, if Auburn's public administration major did involve no-show classes and bogus grades, if it was a fraud and a front, that would and should set off the NCAA's alarm, but The Wall Street Journal's story doesn't document or report anything of the sort.
It just invites the possibility with the brief and gentle mention of the alleged misbehavior at North Carolina. You're free to let your imagination take it from there.
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how about shooting yourself in the head with a gun? or slit your wrists? or jump in front of a locomotive? or take heavy dose of rat poison?
shit is getting old.
I liked Ratt & Poison.
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I liked Ratt & Poison.
Here we go; Round and round!
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Here we go; Round and round!
He didn't mean to say Ratt. That was a slip of the lip.
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He didn't mean to say Ratt. That was a slip of the lip.
You could tell by his body talk
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At least Auburn's athletes actually know what their majors are.
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At least Auburn's athletes actually know what their majors are.
What Ratt song is that from?
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What Ratt song is that from?
Very early album, they were just known as "Rat" then.
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Very early album, they were just known as "Rat" then.
Oh, that's back when they were way cool, Jr.
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Oh, that's back when they were way cool, Jr.
They kept coming back for more.
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They kept coming back for more.
They needed a push,push.
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They needed a push,push.
Nobody rides for free.
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Work day is just about over. Time to lay it down and head home.