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Title: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: Kaos on August 27, 2015, 08:24:00 AM
I can't believe we elected this stuffed-shirt, Israel-hating, socialist, Marxist, Muslim apologist. Twice.  We're fucking idiots.

After that newscaster in Virginia was killed, this fucking moron says:

"What we know is that the number of people who die from gun-related incidents around this country dwarfs any deaths that happen through terrorism."

That's "our" president. 


Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 27, 2015, 08:28:18 AM
I had just always assumed that you voted for Obama.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: wesfau2 on August 27, 2015, 08:29:11 AM
What, specifically, is your beef with the quote?
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 27, 2015, 08:33:03 AM
What, specifically, is your beef with the quote?
I have no problem with it. Do you have a problem with me or something? Quit trying to start some shit. I'm having a good day, damn you.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: Kaos on August 27, 2015, 08:37:38 AM
What, specifically, is your beef with the quote?

1) It's callous
2) It's not true
3) There's a huge difference between the motives of terrorists and those of the average idiots who shoot somebody.
4) It's political pandering, diminishing one tragedy in order to promote the bogus idea that we're worse than terrorists.  It's part of his overall theme that Muslims aren't terrorists.  On this topic I pretty much agree with Curt Schilling's insensitive tweet anyway.
5) He's a racist.  When blacks were killed by a white kid, his reaction was completely different. 

Want more?  He's the worst excuse for a president in the history of the United States.  He's done more to weaken this country than any other ever. 
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: wesfau2 on August 27, 2015, 08:40:48 AM
1) It's callous
2) It's not true
3) There's a huge difference between the motives of terrorists and those of the average idiots who shoot somebody.
4) It's political pandering, diminishing one tragedy in order to promote the bogus idea that we're worse than terrorists.  It's part of his overall theme that Muslims aren't terrorists.  On this topic I pretty much agree with Curt Schilling's insensitive tweet anyway.
5) He's a racist.  When blacks were killed by a white kid, his reaction was completely different. 

Want more?  He's the worst excuse for a president in the history of the United States.  He's done more to weaken this country than any other ever.

Not even worth the effort.  Sorry I asked.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 27, 2015, 08:48:16 AM
Not even worth the effort.  Sorry I asked.
You'd better be, bitch.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: Kaos on August 27, 2015, 09:40:51 AM
Not even worth the effort.  Sorry I asked.

What are you afraid of?  Why does reality bother you so?
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: wesfau2 on August 27, 2015, 09:44:33 AM
What are you afraid of?  Why does reality bother you so?

I fear head trauma from beating my cranium against that nonsense you posted.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: Kaos on August 27, 2015, 09:51:20 AM
I fear head trauma from beating my cranium against that nonsense you posted.

Ok.  Then do this:

1) Provide a list of positive things Obama has done. (Hint, Obamacare and lighting the White House in rainbow colors don't count).

2) Show me actions he's taken or decision's he's made that are pro-Israel.

3) Point out a list of behaviors or actions that indicate in any way that he's not Muslim or pro-Muslim.  He's made enough slips of the tongue (57 states?) to prove where his heart truly lies.

4) Show me the instances where he has NOT behaved in a manner that's only slightly better than the hateful rhetoric of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson in events that have possible racial undertones.  What was his stance on Zimmerman? On Ferguson?

You know I'm right but you just don't WANT to see it.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: wesfau2 on August 27, 2015, 10:30:51 AM
Ok.  Then do this:

1) Provide a list of positive things Obama has done. (Hint, Obamacare and lighting the White House in rainbow colors don't count).

2) Show me actions he's taken or decision's he's made that are pro-Israel.

3) Point out a list of behaviors or actions that indicate in any way that he's not Muslim or pro-Muslim.  He's made enough slips of the tongue (57 states?) to prove where his heart truly lies.

4) Show me the instances where he has NOT behaved in a manner that's only slightly better than the hateful rhetoric of Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson in events that have possible racial undertones.  What was his stance on Zimmerman? On Ferguson?

You know I'm right but you just don't WANT to see it.

Why would I waste that effort when your requests for proof proceed from your own bias?  There is no convincing you.

I'm not saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but this aging, privileged angry act is tiresome.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: jmar on August 27, 2015, 10:52:11 AM
The greatest problem I have with him is the Iran deal. Everything else pales by comparison. Everything else can be overcome except ACA which is here to stay.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: WiregrassTiger on August 27, 2015, 10:58:11 AM
Why would I waste that effort when your requests for proof proceed from your own bias?  There is no convincing you.

I'm not saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but this aging, privileged angry act is tiresome.
Call my friend aging just one more time buddy. That's where I draw the line.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 27, 2015, 11:22:57 AM
The real stooopid part is that we elected him the second time. I wanted to believe all the hype the first time. I have said this before, I had hoped he would be the first president who was black, he turned out to be the first black president. I also blame the repubs for part of this, they keep throwing out old white candidates that just don't cut it. For those of you with young children I truly feel sorry for them as they may see the end of this country.

 
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: CCTAU on August 27, 2015, 11:37:40 AM
I'm not saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but this aging, privileged angry act is tiresome.

If only he were younger, better educated, and more enlightened....
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: Kaos on August 27, 2015, 01:11:17 PM
A day later he added his perspective on the tenth anniversary of Katrina.

It's a black thing.  Shows how the poor old black peoples were mistreated by that mean old hurricane. Disproportionate treatment.  Blacks in NO got it worse.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: CCTAU on August 27, 2015, 01:12:54 PM
A day later he added his perspective on the tenth anniversary of Katrina.

It's a black thing.  Shows how the poor old black peoples were mistreated by that mean old hurricane. Disproportionate treatment.  Blacks in NO got it worse.

God hates blacks?
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: Kaos on August 27, 2015, 01:21:55 PM
Why would I waste that effort when your requests for proof proceed from your own bias?  There is no convincing you.

I'm not saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but this aging, privileged angry act is tiresome.

I told you what he was during his first campaign. All he's done is reinforce what I said.

Hillary is an evil bitch too.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: GH2001 on August 28, 2015, 07:55:22 AM
I told you what he was during his first campaign. All he's done is reinforce what I said.

Hillary is an evil bitch too.

Fundamentally transform. He warned everyone. This is a guy who worshipped Alinsky and Frank Marshall Davis. People just chose to ignore it and instead focused on cutesy rhetoric and slogans. Blaring music on a stage with confetti etc etc. It didn't hurt that he peddled some pandering non sense to the masses in the guise of populism.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 28, 2015, 09:46:50 AM
Fundamentally transform. He warned everyone. This is a guy who worshipped Alinsky and Frank Marshall Davis. People just chose to ignore it and instead focused on cutesy rhetoric and slogans. Blaring music on a stage with confetti etc etc. It didn't hurt that he peddled some pandering non sense to the masses in the guise of populism.


For us simpletons:  He was going to give them a bunch of free shit.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: GH2001 on August 28, 2015, 10:29:00 AM

For us simpletons:  He was going to give them a bunch of free shit.

Yes but in the guise of "caring for them" and "being on their side". Just as if it were from the pulpit of the AME church. Preach it. Tell the sheeple what they wanna hear. No one votes against the hand that feeds it.

Just like his hero Alinsky wrote about in Rules for Radicals. 
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 28, 2015, 12:40:21 PM
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Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: wesfau2 on August 28, 2015, 08:19:17 PM
This will likely fall on deaf ears, but:

A) Cops killing civilians will be judged differently from civilian shooter situations.
B) A shooter's ethnicity (and his/her targets) are important to understanding his/her motive.

If you cannot understand why the above statements are true, then you are being deliberately ignorant.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: smooth_operator on August 28, 2015, 09:35:58 PM
This will likely fall on deaf ears, but:

A) Cops killing civilians will be judged differently from civilian shooter situations.
B) A shooter's ethnicity (and his/her targets) are important to understanding his/her motive.

If you cannot understand why the above statements are true, then you are being deliberately ignorant.

In my opinion every time someone commits a horrific act of violence the media immediately launches into full coverage on the killer and whatever demented reasoning brought them to murder. Bonus points for an utterly insane manifesto, which will be poured over for haunting excerpts.

 Here's the thing though: every time we do that the next lunatic thinks (correctly) to himself "nobody ever seems to listen to my idiotic ramblings, but if I kill a few people, then people will listen". Now, that thought would never occur to you or I, because we aren't bat shoot crazy. However, if you were crazy, and you did have some sort of lunatic agenda you would look at the fame of the columbine killers, the boston bombers, the theater shooter, the church shooter (notice I'm not naming names) and so on and so forth. Everyone knows their names, the media has interviewed their families and co-workers and gone into endless details about what they think might have brought them to kill. We literally KNOW this most recent shooting was sparked by the media coverage of the church shooting.

There is no political motive that justifies killing the innocent, so we should not lend killers the platform. All murderers should be referred to as "murderous asshole" or something similar and there should be no media discussion of their motivations/manifestos/reasonings. Maybe, just maybe, if we stop glorifiying/publicizing this kind of idiocy it will plug the hole our failing mental health system is leaving open.

tl;dr The general public doesn't NEED to understand a killers motive, it does more harm than good.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: smooth_operator on August 28, 2015, 09:53:15 PM
This will likely fall on deaf ears, but:

A) Cops killing civilians will be judged differently from civilian shooter situations.
B) A shooter's ethnicity (and his/her targets) are important to understanding his/her motive.

If you cannot understand why the above statements are true, then you are being deliberately ignorant.

Also, even though I'm not one to publicly question our Commander and Chief if you're using the above rationale for the White House response to ferguson/trayvon/whoeverthatguyfromNYCwas compared to other hot button issues I'm afraid this time I can't agree with you. So far the CiC has been, on those issues and in my opinion: unnecessarily divisive, contrary to law, contrary to evidence and contrary to established social science. I can't imagine why a learned, progressive leader would chose to react that way but there it is.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 29, 2015, 12:21:56 AM
Could not be more spot on.
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: Kaos on August 29, 2015, 10:45:59 AM
The "Reverend President" giving the eulogy in Charleston:

CHARLESTON, S.C. – President Barack Obama brought a crowd 5,500 mourners to their feet and led them in singing “Amazing Grace” in an act of defiance Friday against the hatred that fueled the killings of nine African-Americans at the legendary Mother Emanuel church a block and a half away — a eulogy that was also a call to action to battle the systemic racism that he said the attack must force America to confront.

The "Black President" in response to the Virginia shootings:

"It's a testimony in this case to the fact that local journalists, they go into tough places. This isnt one of those situations. They should have been safe. I think it's one more argument for why we need to look at how we can reduce gun violence in this country."


The DOJ is opening a hate crime investigation into the Charleston shootings.  And all Confederate flags must be brought down and burned.  White people are the devil.

We need to take all the guns away.  Black people wouldn't act up if white folks didn't give them guns. 
Title: Re: Obama shows true colors again
Post by: dallaswareagle on August 31, 2015, 09:59:37 AM
Also, even though I'm not one to publicly question our Commander and Chief if you're using the above rationale for the White House response to ferguson/trayvon/whoeverthatguyfromNYCwas compared to other hot button issues I'm afraid this time I can't agree with you. So far the CiC has been, on those issues and in my opinion: unnecessarily divisive, contrary to law, contrary to evidence and contrary to established social science. I can't imagine why a learned, progressive leader would chose to react that way but there it is.

Who is this you speak of?