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Title: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: The Six on July 16, 2015, 06:25:22 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/verdict-colorado-movie-theater-shooting-trial-gunman-james-holmes-192828613.html (http://news.yahoo.com/verdict-colorado-movie-theater-shooting-trial-gunman-james-holmes-192828613.html)

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A jury has found Colorado movie theater shoorter James Holmes guilty of first-degree murder in the July 20, 2012 shooting that killed 12 people, making him eligible for the death penalty.


Arapahoe County District Chief Judge Carlos Samour Jr. revealed the jury’s verdict at 4:15 p.m. local time. The jury reached its decision on day two of deliberations after meeting for about 14 hours, and nearly three years to the day after the shooting.
Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 16, 2015, 07:44:25 PM
Day two of deliberations?  14 hours???  As a lawyer and someone who has served on two juries, I'll be the first to say that people in general are F'd up.  When you go into a room to talk about what you just heard, you start to wonder if these same people had headphones on and were watching Judge Judy on their iPhones...were they on the same planet...had the been doing meth on break?  This dude planned this out....walked in a theater and began blowing people away.  Intentionally...deliberately...and in a calculated manner...murdered and maimed dozens of people.

Walk in.  Close the door.  Foreman asks, "Anyone opposed to lethal injection for this demon?"  Walk back in.  All rise.
Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: Buzz Killington on July 16, 2015, 09:05:28 PM
I certainly know who I don't want representing me the next time I get charged with rear-ending someone.
Gay rape is a victimless crime according to VV
Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: Kaos on July 17, 2015, 11:51:04 AM
But maybe he was crazy.  He had to be crazy to shoot all those people, right?  If he was crazy he doesn't deserve punishment.  If he was crazy, set him free! 

Reasonable doubt means any doubt whatsoever. 
Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: Snaggletiger on July 17, 2015, 12:40:28 PM
But maybe he was crazy.  He had to be crazy to shoot all those people, right?  If he was crazy he doesn't deserve punishment.  If he was crazy, set him free! 

Reasonable doubt means any doubt whatsoever.

Totally get where you're coming from.  My take is if he's competent enough to plan this out, competent enough to carry it out, competent enough to stand trial, then he's competent enough to know why that needle is going in his arm. 
Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: dallaswareagle on July 17, 2015, 01:07:28 PM
Totally get where you're coming from.  My take is if he's competent enough to plan this out, competent enough to carry it out, competent enough to stand trial, then he's competent enough to know why that needle is going in his arm.


Won't happen but everyday for the rest of his time on earth he needs to be forced to watch that Batman movie and knowing one day that someone will come in and shoot him. Before the actual shooting do a couple (hundred) of dry runs with blanks.
Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: Jumbo on July 17, 2015, 04:24:59 PM
Gay rape is a victimless crime according to VV
He loves teh cocks.
Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: smooth_operator on July 18, 2015, 07:26:19 PM
blah blah humanitarian considerations like mental competency are stupid. We don't wonder if animals that attack humans are mentally competent, just shoot 'em. Someone is competent enough to kill innocent humans we oughta kill 'em immediately.  Not because of the vengeance, not because of the justice, but because its the safest, most efficient, closure giving act. Kill the mad dogs.
Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: Saniflush on July 23, 2015, 09:30:25 AM
I am surprised by this....Not of the guilty verdict or the time it took to deliberate.  But by the defense strategy. 
I felt sure they would claim that these were mercy killings since the Batman movie was THAT bad.
Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: Snaggletiger on August 08, 2015, 12:14:31 PM
So they gave him life in prison because one, lone juror couldn't vote for the needle.  Good thing this isn't Norway.  The guy might have gotten a ticket AND had to pay a fine.

Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: DnATL on August 08, 2015, 04:21:05 PM
So they gave him life in prison because one, lone juror couldn't vote for the needle.  Good thing this isn't Norway.  The guy might have gotten a ticket AND had to pay a fine.
Now do they have to isolate him too (mo $$), or can he go in GenPop?
Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: JR4AU on August 09, 2015, 05:30:41 PM
Day two of deliberations?  14 hours???  As a lawyer and someone who has served on two juries, I'll be the first to say that people in general are F'd up.  When you go into a room to talk about what you just heard, you start to wonder if these same people had headphones on and were watching Judge Judy on their iPhones...were they on the same planet...had the been doing meth on break?  This dude planned this out....walked in a theater and began blowing people away.  Intentionally...deliberately...and in a calculated manner...murdered and maimed dozens of people.

Walk in.  Close the door.  Foreman asks, "Anyone opposed to lethal injection for this demon?"  Walk back in.  All rise.

Juries are funny critters.  Never can tell what they hear or latch on to.
Title: Re: Colorado Batman Theater Shooter Guilty A Lot
Post by: JR4AU on August 09, 2015, 05:34:28 PM
But maybe he was crazy.  He had to be crazy to shoot all those people, right?  If he was crazy he doesn't deserve punishment.  If he was crazy, set him free! 

Reasonable doubt means any doubt whatsoever.

Most criminals are some form of crazy.  99.9% still know right from wrong, and that's the standard for whether you are criminally responsible.

And reasonable doubt means just that.  REASONABLE doubt.