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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on April 29, 2015, 12:11:05 PM
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http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/04/alabama_cornerback_cyrus_jones_2.html#incart_2box
Another day, another Alabama player arrest.
Saban:
"Nothing to see here. He's a good player and performs well on the field. This issue will be dealt with appropriately to the process, aight? We evaluate players based on how they well they do on the field of play, particularly when they are having to overcome difficult situations like this. No, I wouldn't say there is a pattern? What are you talking about? Seven arrests? Eight? I wouldn't call that a pattern, we're doing all we can to mold these fine young men into productive NFL players. You don't get this far by being timid, aight? How many players has the process put into the NFL? What? You say only a few of them are productive? We prepare them. If they do not maintain that process, if they choose to abide by the performance enhancement rules imposed by the NFL that we ignore here that's their fault. Cyrus will be suspended until the next time we need him. That's all there is to say about it. Next question. Don't make Nick Saban have to choke a bitch. "
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http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/04/alabama_cornerback_cyrus_jones_2.html#incart_2box
Another day, another Alabama player arrest.
Saban:
"Nothing to see here. He's a good player and performs well on the field. This issue will be dealt with appropriately to the process, aight? We evaluate players based on how they well they do on the field of play, particularly when they are having to overcome difficult situations like this. No, I wouldn't say there is a pattern? What are you talking about? Seven arrests? Eight? I wouldn't call that a pattern, we're doing all we can to mold these fine young men into productive NFL players. You don't get this far by being timid, aight? How many players has the process put into the NFL? What? You say only a few of them are productive? We prepare them. If they do not maintain that process, if they choose to abide by the performance enhancement rules imposed by the NFL that we ignore here that's their fault. Cyrus will be suspended until the next time we need him. That's all there is to say about it. Next question. Don't make Nick Saban have to choke a bitch. "
"Because I've got a step ladder and by God, I'll use it."
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"Does Saban have 'Bustin Loose Bail Bonds' on speed dial?" - Ron Higgins (New Orleans Times, former journalist in Memphis and Mobile).
This is the company logo...
(http://bustinloosebailbonds.com/images/BustinLooseLogoweb.jpg)
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May as well award the 2015 Fulmer Cup now.
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May as well award the 2015 Fulmer Cup now.
Hold up on that.
Signed,
Elijah Daniel
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Hold up on that.
Signed,
Elijah Daniel
Actually it was just theft of property. Please stop spreading rumors. Prayers sent.
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So, I heard on the radio that Jones domestic violence arrest was based on him yelling at a girl and smashing here cell phone? Surely I am missing something here.
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So, I heard on the radio that Jones domestic violence arrest was based on him yelling at a girl and smashing here cell phone? Surely I am missing something here.
That's a lot of equipment for a turd girl.
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u1/miked0003/first-car-phone1_zps4epz7pyk.jpg) (http://s164.photobucket.com/user/miked0003/media/first-car-phone1_zps4epz7pyk.jpg.html)
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Cyrus Jones is actually a hero and example for us all in handling familial/domestic disagreements and the people of Baltimore should take note.
Cyrus Jones vs the Baltimore mom: which is the villain?
By John Archibald | jarchibald@al.com
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There's a fine line between villainy and heroics these days.
Cyrus Jones, last week an exalted Alabama football hero, is today a goat. Just another in a long line of gridiron mistakes.
Toya Graham, last week a Baltimore unknown, is now a heroine – at least in some circles. She is a righteous mom demanding better of her son.
Jones, from what we can tell, threw a cell phone and said some pretty mean words during a fight with a girl.
Graham slapped her son repeatedly about the face and head and dragged him away from the Monday riots.
Jones is a villain.
Graham is a hero.
And the world is adrift on a sea of confusion.
It is time to admit we have a problem, America. Because the message is getting skewed.
It is not OK to hit your kids. It is not. It is not OK to condone abuse with the euphemism of "tough love." It is not.
I can't help but think of Birmingham's former mayor, Larry Langford, who preached a tough love doctrine. He used to boast about how his mother beat him with a cord from an iron after he was caught stealing as a child. He was hurt so badly he had to seek medical attention.
It was only late in life, when he was preparing to go to prison, that he acknowledged to reporter Chuck Dean that it was abuse, that despite all his preaching and get-tough bluster, there is a big difference between a spanking and a beating.
And his mama should have gone to jail.
I get the feelings Graham must have experienced as she saw her child caught up in the Baltimore riots, as she saw him with a mask on his face and mistakes in his future.
She was afraid for him. She was protective of him. And she was angry.
"That's my only son, and at the end of the day, I don't want him to be a Freddie Gray," she told the cameras. "But to stand up there and vandalize police officers, that's not justice."
It is an admirable thought. It is a heroic thought to a lot of people. But it is not OK to beat your kids. Even then. It is not.
Unless you want them to grow up to beat somebody else. Unless you think the only way to convince them to behave is – and I thought this is what those Baltimore protests were about in the first place – you think the only way to control people is with excessive force.
It's not OK to beat your kids.
And frankly, it is also not OK to devalue the power of the words "domestic violence" by attaching that label to somebody who got mad and threw a phone.
I'm not apologizing for Cyrus Jones. He let anger get the best of him. But not like Ray Rice did. Not like Jonathan Taylor apparently did. Not even like Graham did.
He threw a phone. Which is bad.
He spoke words in anger. Which is bad.
But he did not lay a hand on anyone. Which would have been far, far worse.
Domestic violence is a despicable act, a crime that now justifiably sticks to a person like a scarlet letter. A domestic abuser deserves that label.
But we desperately need to be careful not to cheapen it.
A domestic abuser is not a guy who threw a phone.
And a hero is not someone who hits their kids.
Violence is not the way to educate children or convince them to do right. Violence is not the way to settle arguments. Violence is not the answer.
But neither is injustice.
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/04/cyrus_jones_vs_the_baltimore_m.html#incart_river (http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/04/cyrus_jones_vs_the_baltimore_m.html#incart_river)
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http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/04/cyrus_jones_vs_the_baltimore_m.html#incart_river (http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/04/cyrus_jones_vs_the_baltimore_m.html#incart_river)
In a nutshell, this is what I thought when I heard what Jones had actually done. Not so much comparing with the Baltimore mom. Actually, I commend that mom and in my mind there should be many more moms/dads slappn some kids around in Baltimore. My thoughts were more towards the rioters burning up junk, etc. Not condoning what Jones was doing, I mean he is still a kid but he has to be smart enough to go find a trailer park somewhere to act out his rage. I still think it is ridiculous though that he was arrested for two counts of domestic violence and there are folks in Baltimore basically committing acts of terrorism.
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Fucking liberal America...the pussification continues. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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Honestly, I might as well just shut this website down. You know that one day we won't be allowed to post on the interwebs.
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Honestly, I might as well just shut this website down. You know that one day we won't be allowed to post on the interwebs.
We will riot!
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This is just the furtherance of the justificationism of intolerance and suppressionistic tactics of the mods that have been going on for years. We must stand unified in unison against the tyrannicalification the mods have endangered us with as they advance their unqualified oppression on the posters of this board.
And we need t-shirts with a catchy phrase.
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We will riot!
As long as that 10:00pm curfew is in effect, I get tired easily.
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Honestly, I might as well just shut this website down. You know that one day we won't be allowed to post on the interwebs.
#dumbasslivesmatter
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As long as that 10:00pm curfew is in effect, I get tired easily.
I can bring the beer if somebody will bring the grill and meats.
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I can bring the beer if somebody will bring the grill and meats.
We can just get everything when we get there. It will be free.
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It just so happens that breaking peoples cell phones (criminal mischief) and saying mean words (harassment) fall under Alabama's domestic violence statutes. Getting arrested for it isn't just for football stars either, domestic violence is one of the crimes that police officers in Alabama have no "discretion" in dealing with. It is also, by statute, one of two crimes that police can (and are required to) make arrests for misdemeanors that occur outside their presence.
So in essence, this illustrious al.com writer has very publicly taken the very popular stance that domestic violence laws are too tough. Real domestic violence, according to this reporter, is "devalued" by making other forms of abuse illegal. If the right people took that article to the right places (reddit's r/xx comes to mind) that guy would never get paid to write again.
With that said yes, those protests should've just been a sea of moms beating the shit out of their kids. The world would be a better place.
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Domestic violence charges against the Alabama CB were dropped today, according to Tuscaloosa police: "Although sufficient probable cause existed for both offenses, the dismissal is based on the fact that Mr. Jones in fact attempted to deescalate the situation by contacting the Tuscaloosa Police Department."
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Domestic violence charges against the Alabama CB were dropped today, according to Tuscaloosa police: "Although sufficient probable cause existed for both offenses, the dismissal is based on the fact that Mr. Jones in fact attempted to deescalate the situation by contacting the Tuscaloosa Police Department."
So, they felt like they had overused the "She started the whole thing and playa was just trying to protect himself" excuse?
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So, they felt like they had overused the "She started the whole thing and playa was just trying to protect himself" excuse?
The phone probably deserved it
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http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/05/charges_dropped_lesson_learned.html (http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2015/05/charges_dropped_lesson_learned.html)
Charges dropped, lessons learned for Cyrus Jones, Alabama and us
Before you can start the healing, you have to stop the bleeding. Or, even better, prevent any bleeding or bruising from happening in the first place.
Alabama cornerback Cyrus Jones apparently made some mistakes in that situation Tuesday with a female acquaintance, but according to Friday's statement from the Tuscaloosa Police Department, he did one thing that should be a lesson to anyone who finds himself or herself in an argument.
As the statement said, "He attempted to deescalate the situation."
How did he do that? By calling the police himself.
That call contributed to him getting arrested Tuesday. It also contributed to the Office of the City Attorney dropping the two third-degree misdemeanor domestic violence charges against him Friday.
The Tuscaloosa Police statement said that "sufficient probable cause existed for both offenses" because Jones allegedly damaged the woman's cell phone and threatened to assault her, but that the police recommended the charges be dropped because Jones called them and "attempted to deescalate the situation."
"Domestic Violence is a serious problem in communities across the United States, and there are very strict guidelines that officers are required to follow when enforcing domestic violence laws," the police statement said. "These guidelines often give the officers little to no discretion and require them to make decisions quickly to resolve the cases."
It sounds like Jones did the right thing by making that call. It sounds like the Tuscaloosa police also did the right thing - the only thing possible under the original circumstances - by making the arrest and later recommending that the charges be dropped.
As Alabama coach Nick Saban said in his statement after the incident, "We don't ever condone any behavior that shows any kind of disrespect. There was no physical contact in this situation. Once we get the facts, we will take the necessary steps to correct this behavior in the future."
Give Saban credit for taking the right approach, too.
The positive outcome of this situation doesn't erase the four previous arrests of Alabama football players in four separate situations this calendar year. It doesn't make up for two of those players, Jonathan Taylor and Tyren Jones, getting dismissed from the team.
It doesn't completely excuse the fact that Jones himself did enough to get arrested in the first place, but this outcome can be a teachable moment for him, his teammates, the entire program and anyone else observing from the outside.
Of course, it's better to avoid serious disagreements in the first place, but if you've figured out how to live a conflict-free life, please share that secret with the rest of us.
If you're human and you occasionally find yourself in a dispute with someone you care about, the right thing to do isn't to break something or threaten someone. Do whatever you can to pull the plug, douse the fuse, deescalate the situation.
Don't become another Floyd Mayweather or Ray Rice.
Ultimately, thankfully for him and his acquaintance, Jones didn't go the distance down that dark road. And hopefully, this will be the last brush with the law for the Alabama football program this year.
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