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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: War Eagle!!! on August 30, 2008, 05:17:17 PM
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I hope the new offense goes better for us tonight than it has been going for Meeechigan.
At halftime:
98 Passing yards
4 Rushing yards
The only TD scored was on a Utah fumble on about the 20 yard line.
I bet the Meeechigan fans are getting restless...
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Well, ours couldnt look much worse than it has so far. Hell, we even 3 plays and punted at mid field.
I don't mind giving both qb'a snaps but I hat the one series in one out shit. Give them a few series at a time.
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I hope the new offense goes better for us tonight than it has been going for Meeechigan.
At halftime:
98 Passing yards
4 Rushing yards
The only TD scored was on a Utah fumble on about the 20 yard line.
I bet the Meeechigan fans are getting restless...
A-FUCKING-BYSMAL so far. Does Borges have a job yet?
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The bad thing is...when we run the ball, we pick up big chunks. THen we go to the slips screens and screen passes and it is punt...
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The new O sucks ass! We could line up in the I with Ben Tate and run the ball down there fucking throats. We need to pick 1 qb and stay with them for more than 1 series.
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The new O sucks ass! We could line up in the I with Ben Tate and run the ball down there fucking throats. We need to pick 1 qb and stay with them for more than 1 series.
Agree with the QB statement. I was a believer in Todd after watching practice but Burns brings something special to the table. I think we should go solely with him at this point.
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Auburn is in trouble if Burns is hurt bad...
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todd has looked horrible.
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Tate and Smith both looked good. Other than that, I wasn't too impressed with the offense. I hope we can pull it together before next weekend. Southern Miss is no pushover.
At least we didn't lose to La Tech....cough....Mississippi State....cough cough....
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First off doesn't anyone have a brother's ...cousins... friends... aunt at 31 flavors that saw Kodi Burns? Any word on his injury??? Hope its not a broken shin.
My analysis would be to say, we looked rusty as shit. However, does that surprise anyone we always look rusty in the first games. After all we are Auburn, god knows we can never blow a team out by 65 points in the first half. IMO Burns definitely look better at QB, he had some good throws, that one down field that went right threw the WR's hands was nice and he had some nice runs. Although the fact that he is already hurt worries me, in the SEC it is hard for a running QB to make it through an entire season without getting injured. Todd however had no umph on his throws, the only series he had that he looked good in was the last drive.
So my questions are these....how much of tonights game was game plan? In other words I am sure the playbook was limited in order to save things for future big games. How much of the gameplay by the QB's were nerves? Remember this is the first time in front of a big crowd for some of these boys and if the QB is nervous it can effect the team. I think the reason uat did so well tonight was because of Sarah Jessica, that was probably the best game I have ever seen him play, but the guy is a senior, he should be playing like that. Finally how much is rust, I watched a bunch of games today, nobody really stood out. Even mighty super Teabow had a very mediocre game.
On a positive note the running game was great the frosh Smith played well and Tate looks like a beast. Defense looked very... very... solid and the shutout looked good. Kudos to Dunn for our first punt return TD in 12 years, that stopping cut he made was incredible!!
I am gonna leave my verdict on the AU spread at even right now, I will give them the benefit of the doubt and say that rust, nerves and inexperience were a factor. Lets see how we look next week.
War Eagle Everyone, I'll take the win.
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Granted, I was unable to see the game, but what was the score?
A 34-0 shutout win isn't anything to be distraught over. At least we didn't lose 21-14.
Like Brian said, I wasn't expecting us to bring out the big guns, and we were playing all backups by the 4th quarter.
The sky is not falling. Looks pretty sunny to me.
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Just read that Swinton and Pierre-Louis suffered knee injuries. Swinton they didn't coment on, but it sounds like Pierre-Louis is gone, Tubs said injury did not look good. This really sucks for them, especially if Swinton is gone for the year, finally coming into his own.
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Granted, I was unable to see the game, but what was the score?
A 34-0 shutout win isn't anything to be distraught over. At least we didn't lose 21-14.
Like Brian said, I wasn't expecting us to bring out the big guns, and we were playing all backups by the 4th quarter.
The sky is not falling. Looks pretty sunny to me.
Just got back from the game, and I can say that even after ALL the things typed, BK and Chizad get it. We'll know more about injuries by tomorrow and the days to follow. Had a great time today and tailgated with Ben Tate's father and Brad Lester's mom. Great people!
Highlight of the night (outside of Dunn's return of course) was the lick Neiko Thorpe put on some poor soul towards the end of the game. I swear I felt the barometric pressure drop a few points as that hit occurred!
Things will be fine folks! Defense looked great once they got the butterfly's out, and started hitting people. Offense was just going to be vanilla. Pure and simple. This wasn't a bowl game vs. a top 10 opponent, and you weren't going to see that gameplan installed today. I hope Kodi is okay, but it was good to see Todd get his shit together when he was left to it the rest of the game. I think he was a little gun-shy and afraid of making a mistake early in the game. He seemed to settle as time went on.
First time I've had to drive back to Birmingham after a game.... Fuck me, I thought that drive from Auburn to Montgomery was long and miserable.... Ugh.... next time, I'm getting a room!
War Damn Eagle!
Remember bammers, congrats on your win vs. Thunder and Lig...wait, I mean, "Fart and Spark.... , but you do this every fucking year, build up a little brick tower for your eventual Peter Pan to reality and a 6 - 6 record. Don't quite pull the up the travel sites to BCS games yet...
I'm tired, and done rambling.....
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Kodi's Injury:
It wasn't a broken bone or even a sprain. I've been told that when he was hit, after that long run, part of the ULM helmet caught part of Burn's leg, right under his knee cap, and Stripped His Skin Down To His Sock.......Fuckin' OUCH. He's gonna be out for, atleast........a couple of days.
As for Todd:
Wow, is all I can say. After he checks his first and Sometimes second receiver, if they aren't open....He starts to Freak the Fuck Out and just throws it, with no real intention of trying to complete the pass. I counted atleast three times where Todd threw it Right at the ULM defender and they dropped it, Thank GOD. Guys, uat's defenders probably won't drop most of those direct passes.
My question for y'all, if anyone knows, is......is Todd color blind? Or was this just the first game jitters? He also might want to shed that #12 (somewhat Jinx and all). The number jinx would be similar to an Olineman wearing the #69. If y'all don't know who I'm talking about that wore the #69, then y'all, apparently, don't watch the Offensive Line....like I do. I'll give y'all a hint......his name ryhmes with Mark Pera. I can't tell y'all how many times are QBs were HAMMERED because of #69, but Jumbo will tell you that nearly every time the QB was sacked, I'd ask him, "Guess who's man that was, Jumbo."
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I will point out a few positives that I saw.
1. Ben Tate is ready for a breakout year, he carried the offense on his back tonight.
2. Eric Smith the freshman running back from Fla, is going to be a special player. He has big play potential everytime he touches the ball.
3. Big Tez Doolittle and Jake Ricks looked great tonight, they will add some depth to our D-line.
4. Neiko (Lipscomb) Thorpe is a beast on the field, I think he can be a shutdown corner with a mean streak.
5. Josh "Big Daddy" Bynes will be and All American linebacker before he leaves the plains. He made some big plays tonight in the second half.
Thats just my observation from the cheap seats.
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As for Todd Cox:
Wow, is all I can say. After he checks his first and Sometimes second receiver, if they aren't open....He starts to Freak the Fuck Out and just throws it, with no real intention of trying to complete the pass. I counted atleast three times where Todd Cox threw it Right at the ULM defender and they dropped it, Thank GOD. Guys, uat's defenders probably won't drop most of those direct passes.
My question for y'all, if anyone knows, is......is Todd Cox color blind? Or was this just the first game jitters?
Fixed it so it looks more familiar. 34 - ZERO. I'm not putting a gun to my head yet.
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Fixed it so it looks more familiar. 34 - ZERO. I'm not putting a gun to my head yet.
85 yards passing, a quarterback who threw at least two balls directly to defenders (no receiver in sight on either) and an offense that looks like something you'd see a junior high private school team running. The gun is not to my head, but it's damn sure in my hand and I'm looking at it.
Franklin looked like a frenetic douchebag on the sidelines, too. He needs to get his monkey ass up in the booth.
After one game you can put me squarely in the "holy SHIT, what a mistake I hope we can survive this" camp. Things that have me seriously, seriously concerned:
1) Todd looked like a complete loser. No touch on his passes and a complete inability to make a decision. Standing back in the pocket for ten seconds and no idea where to throw the ball? Panicking and throwing it to the other team? Perhaps the worst quarterback debut I've seen in a long time.
2) Franklin has always seemed out-of-control. From his off-season sound bites to his refusal to pick a quarterback, he's bothered me. I got nothing good out of Saturday. He looked like a sweaty, disorganized bum. The stubborn decision to swap series with the QBs kept both afraid to make a mistake and didn't allow either to develop any kind of rhythm. But he's a douchebag who's going to do things his own way.
3) Franklin's ability to evaluate talent in SEC terms seems woefully. woefully lacking. Todd is further from ready to be an SEC quarterback than Paul McCartney's one-legged former wife. Burns is ahead. A drunken orangutan could see that. But Franklin's bull-headed insistence on making Todd "his guy" kept Burns from getting the number of number one reps he should have and has stunted his development. I was really hesitant about Franklin from the beginning, but after watching one outing, I pretty much think he is an assclown. Not impressed. He's rinky-dink.
4) If we'd been playing an SEC-caliber team last night we might have played well enough on defense to hold them to 10-14 points, but we wouldn't have come close to scoring that much. Not anywhere near. You can write that off to "not showing all our cards" and "playing vanilla" but isn't that the same bullshit we've heard for the last couple of years? What if we just don't have any true playmakers on offense other than the backs and our O-line? If that is really the case, Franklin's gimmick shit isn't the way to get them moving or to hide the defencies under center and at wideout.
I hate to complain about a 34-0 win, and I appreciate the desire to see silver linings, but there were a hell of a lot of dark clouds, too. Yeah, it's all sunshiny today, no question. Don't look at the weather. Just ignore that monster hurricane brewing off the coast.
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Holy shit then. We're obviously screwed. I'll just sit here and rock in my chair, and fear what might happen then....
"Tito, get me a tissue".... :bag:
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85 yards passing, a quarterback who threw at least two balls directly to defenders (no receiver in sight on either) and an offense that looks like something you'd see a junior high private school team running. The gun is not to my head, but it's damn sure in my hand and I'm looking at it.
Franklin looked like a frenetic douchebag on the sidelines, too. He needs to get his monkey ass up in the booth.
After one game you can put me squarely in the "holy SHIT, what a mistake I hope we can survive this" camp. Things that have me seriously, seriously concerned:
1) Todd looked like a complete loser. No touch on his passes and a complete inability to make a decision. Standing back in the pocket for ten seconds and no idea where to throw the ball? Panicking and throwing it to the other team? Perhaps the worst quarterback debut I've seen in a long time.
2) Franklin has always seemed out-of-control. From his off-season sound bites to his refusal to pick a quarterback, he's bothered me. I got nothing good out of Saturday. He looked like a sweaty, disorganized bum. The stubborn decision to swap series with the QBs kept both afraid to make a mistake and didn't allow either to develop any kind of rhythm. But he's a douchebag who's going to do things his own way.
3) Franklin's ability to evaluate talent in SEC terms seems woefully. woefully lacking. Todd is further from ready to be an SEC quarterback than Paul McCartney's one-legged former wife. Burns is ahead. A drunken orangutan could see that. But Franklin's bull-headed insistence on making Todd "his guy" kept Burns from getting the number of number one reps he should have and has stunted his development. I was really hesitant about Franklin from the beginning, but after watching one outing, I pretty much think he is an assclown. Not impressed. He's rinky-dink.
4) If we'd been playing an SEC-caliber team last night we might have played well enough on defense to hold them to 10-14 points, but we wouldn't have come close to scoring that much. Not anywhere near. You can write that off to "not showing all our cards" and "playing vanilla" but isn't that the same bullshit we've heard for the last couple of years? What if we just don't have any true playmakers on offense other than the backs and our O-line? If that is really the case, Franklin's gimmick shit isn't the way to get them moving or to hide the defencies under center and at wideout.
I hate to complain about a 34-0 win, and I appreciate the desire to see silver linings, but there were a hell of a lot of dark clouds, too. Yeah, it's all sunshiny today, no question. Don't look at the weather. Just ignore that monster hurricane brewing off the coast.
I think you're taking it too far. The only mistake that has been made is not picking a #1 QB. Franklin doesn't take showers, he's ugly, and he loses his temper. However, that doesn't mean he can't coach or devise a good gameplan. I think Franklin imagined his QB situation being a good thing when in reality it wasn't. You're exactly right saying that Burns didn't get enough reps to function as a #1 QB.
If you ask me, I say make Burns the starter, and let's run the spread like West Virginia.
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And to add -
What's one common denominator between Al Borges' inept passing offense and Tony Franklin's (so far) inept passing offense?
Coach Greg Knox.
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IMO, the defense looked great. Bynes is a big physical kid that moved sideline to sideline really well. Thorpe might be my favorite player in the secondary now. Having Doolittle back is nice also.
The only bright spots on Offense was Tate and the new kid E. Smith. Damn, Smith is going to be a stud! Todd must tuck Franklin in at night or something, because he sure looked, and played like shit. That was one of the worst passing performances I've seen in a long, long time. Stick with Kodi, he's our best bet for a good season. Dunn can return punts and kicks, but quit putting him on the field to drop fucking passes. While I'm on the subject of dropped passes, does Slaughter need Burns to run down the field and carefully place the ball in his fucking hands? How the fuck do you get a scholly as a receiver if you can't catch the fucking deep ball? If this shit doesn't get straightend out, we will be in for a long season.
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The biggest gripe I had all night was with our receivers. They couldn't catch a cold.
Defense was pretty damn good. Like someone mentioned earlier, it was nice to see the DB's turn to look at the ball.
Todd does not plant his feet.
Waaaaaaayyyyyy too many boo's from the fans last night (mostly aimed at Todd). That is disgusting. We (Auburn people) are supposed to be better than that.
Other news from the PCT camp:
Tailgated with the Pell City folk on the corner of MLK and Donohue. Had the mother of all BBQ/Smoke trailers in the parking lot. People walking to the stadium stopped and checked it out.
Todd Jones, the former Astros and Detroit Tigers closer, tailgated with us. He's married to a girl I went to school with. Great guy. Said his rotator cuff is torn and his career is over. Retirement ceremony in Detroit at the end of the season.
After the game, got to speak with the Warhawks Punter, Scott Love. He's my friends first cousin. His folks drove over for the game and tailgated with us. Great young man. Had a lot of good things to say about playing in Jordan-Hare.
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The biggest gripe I had all night was with our receivers. They couldn't catch a cold.
I hear that. Slaughter missed a big one he should of had, Dunn missed one or two. The balls the RB's missed were just poorly thrown. SOOO close on the TD from Kodi. Good effort by Rod there.
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More thoughts -
Our coaches have become softies on the offensive side of the ball. I just realized what our coaches having been doing - BABYING our fucking quarterbacks. It seems like every practice, the coaches were giving the QBs time to come into their own. They were allowing them to learn the offense. They were waiting for one QB to pull away. Well it didn't happen. You know why? Because they had nobody pushing them. The coaches need (or needed) to tell the QBs, "Okay, this is the day. Whoever does the best gets the job. Go compete."
I damn-well bet you that the true starter would emerge.
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Our coaches have become softies on the offensive side of the ball. I just realized what our coaches having been doing - BABYING our fucking quarterbacks. It seems like every practice, the coaches were giving the QBs time to come into their own. They were allowing them to learn the offense. They were waiting for one QB to pull away. Well it didn't happen. You know why? Because they had nobody pushing them. The coaches need (or needed) to tell the QBs, "Okay, this is the day. Whoever does the best gets the job. Go compete."
I damn-well bet you that the true starter would emerge.
Did you see anything -- anything -- that indicated there should have been some great decision to be made in the first place?
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I did not see our game, but there seems to be some kvetching about the lack of execution in the passing game...drops/bad throws/bad routes/whathaveyou...since I didn't see it, I can't and won't comment on anything specific.
I will say that one of Burns or Todd needs to step up and be the alpha dog at QB. When you've got 2 undistinguished QBs, you really don't have a QB at all.
One game does not make a trend line. I know there is a great need on the part of fans to be prescient so that if something happens to go right or wrong down the line, they can pat themselves on the collective back and say "see that? I saw it coming a mile away...why couldn't you?" and pump up their perceived football IQ.
If some of the same issues are present toward the end of the season, then that will be a problem.
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I was waiting and watching, hoping they would put in Trotter and laugh my ass off when he would hit everything open. Of course they never did, but for some reason, I think he is one of those unknown surprises like that Smith kid and thorpe.
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I did not see our game, but there seems to be some kvetching about the lack of execution in the passing game...drops/bad throws/bad routes/whathaveyou...since I didn't see it, I can't and won't comment on anything specific.
I will say that one of Burns or Todd needs to step up and be the alpha dog at QB. When you've got 2 undistinguished QBs, you really don't have a QB at all.
One game does not make a trend line. I know there is a great need on the part of fans to be prescient so that if something happens to go right or wrong down the line, they can pat themselves on the collective back and say "see that? I saw it coming a mile away...why couldn't you?" and pump up their perceived football IQ.
If some of the same issues are present toward the end of the season, then that will be a problem.
I concur.
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85 yards passing, a quarterback who threw at least two balls directly to defenders (no receiver in sight on either) and an offense that looks like something you'd see a junior high private school team running. The gun is not to my head, but it's damn sure in my hand and I'm looking at it.
Franklin looked like a frenetic douchebag on the sidelines, too. He needs to get his monkey ass up in the booth.
After one game you can put me squarely in the "holy SHIT, what a mistake I hope we can survive this" camp. Things that have me seriously, seriously concerned:
1) Todd looked like a complete loser. No touch on his passes and a complete inability to make a decision. Standing back in the pocket for ten seconds and no idea where to throw the ball? Panicking and throwing it to the other team? Perhaps the worst quarterback debut I've seen in a long time.
2) Franklin has always seemed out-of-control. From his off-season sound bites to his refusal to pick a quarterback, he's bothered me. I got nothing good out of Saturday. He looked like a sweaty, disorganized bum. The stubborn decision to swap series with the QBs kept both afraid to make a mistake and didn't allow either to develop any kind of rhythm. But he's a douchebag who's going to do things his own way.
3) Franklin's ability to evaluate talent in SEC terms seems woefully. woefully lacking. Todd is further from ready to be an SEC quarterback than Paul McCartney's one-legged former wife. Burns is ahead. A drunken orangutan could see that. But Franklin's bull-headed insistence on making Todd "his guy" kept Burns from getting the number of number one reps he should have and has stunted his development. I was really hesitant about Franklin from the beginning, but after watching one outing, I pretty much think he is an assclown. Not impressed. He's rinky-dink.
4) If we'd been playing an SEC-caliber team last night we might have played well enough on defense to hold them to 10-14 points, but we wouldn't have come close to scoring that much. Not anywhere near. You can write that off to "not showing all our cards" and "playing vanilla" but isn't that the same bullshit we've heard for the last couple of years? What if we just don't have any true playmakers on offense other than the backs and our O-line? If that is really the case, Franklin's gimmick shit isn't the way to get them moving or to hide the defencies under center and at wideout.
I hate to complain about a 34-0 win, and I appreciate the desire to see silver linings, but there were a hell of a lot of dark clouds, too. Yeah, it's all sunshiny today, no question. Don't look at the weather. Just ignore that monster hurricane brewing off the coast.
TRUTH! preach it!
There's trouble brewing on the plains, not just your new offense either, TT has gotten AU in a fix. I know it's only one game, but some of you guys have become blinded by your own hype and squeaky-clean attitude.
'' The jury's still out on Auburn's passing game: Kodi Burns and Chris Todd, alternating series in Tony Franklin's new spread offense, combined for just 28 yards passing through the first three quarters, and their longest pass play heading into the final quarter was 7 yards. The Tigers finished with 85 yards passing''
You'll win your share but when you hit the SEC schedule, you'll see what a lot of the other fan bases already knew about what the ''ol riverboat gambler'' has gotten you guys in.
Again, only one game but my prediction is becoming clearer.
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There were a lot of out of sync teams this weekend. I'm reserving judgment on our demise until a few games into this season. As I mentioned earlier, the biggest changes in execution are seen between games 1 and 2. I'm not pressing the panic button just yet.
Bama caught Clemson on a horrible night. Let's see how you roll later in the schedule. Methinks the Dawgs will put up a little more fight than Tommy Bowden's guys did. Congrats on your win. Remember though, 3 years ago under Shula, you destroyed a very good Florida team. Last year, you blew out the Vols. How did the end of your season go? I quote the Book of Saban, Chapter 2 Verse 8, "Enjoy it while you can."
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Yes, of course we'll have a harder time against the SEC opponents. Still, we didn't annoint Clemson #9 or MNC contenders.
Here is what Tommy Bowden thinks
''We got whipped about every way you get whipped," Bowden said. "… I don't think we've been beat that bad physically probably in three years."
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You lost at home to the ULM team that we supposedly monumentally struggled against, and beat 34-0. Get out of here, idiot. :taunt:
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:popcorn:
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:rofl:
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Yes, of course we'll have a harder time against the SEC opponents. Still, we didn't annoint Clemson #9 or MNC contenders.
Here is what Tommy Bowden thinks
''We got whipped about every way you get whipped," Bowden said. "… I don't think we've been beat that bad physically probably in three years."
Bls, your team just blew out the best team in the Acc. After the first game what are your expectations for the rest of the season?
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Bls, your team just blew out the best team in the Acc. After the first game what are your expectations for the rest of the season?
There going to Disneyland! :vn: Wait, is that near Shreveport?
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Bls, your team just blew out the best team in the Acc. After the first game what are your expectations for the rest of the season?
To early to tell. It's only the first game but we looked disiplined ( on the field anyway :rofl: ) and they did look sharp and comfortable in the new offense for a first game. A few penalties on the offense (3) I think. Not a bad showing but far from where we need to be as far as SEC play goes.
If we can stay healthy and have a couple breaks we could win 8.
We have a tough schedule, away games are brutal and TTown hasn't been kind to us when we play you guys so again 8 wins I think is possible.
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We have a tough schedule, away games are brutal and TTown hasn't been kind to us when we play you guys so again 8 wins I think is possible.
So which way is going to be, the piece of shit cumdumpster you've been so far, or realistic participant like right here. Your lucky Jumbo invited you here, and is continuing to put his blinders on to your cock in the mouth behavior, but the rest of us aren't. So, which way is it going to be nutsack?
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Well with your comments, regardless of what I post, It's a bit hard to try and be sensible. I tried to be a respectable member of the forum but you keep showing what you are about and your intentions constantly.
I'm responding to you in the manner in which you've been addressing me since I came here. Unfortunately it takes almost all the fun outta this place for me so I don't get much of a chance at being realistic or enjoying some of the other members. Before you started this ‘‘runs this Bammer off campaign’’ by baiting your fucking comments (knowing no one is going to put up with your insults constantly) I didn't have any problems with anyone here.
You are by far the most hypocritical Au poster in the history of message boards. That includes a shit load of fucked up Bama posters I've seen.
You’re nothing but a resident shit stirrer intent on fucking up this place and you do your job very well.
You want a respectable member of the site to talk and enjoy football then try acting like one. You may get surprised and find that you'll get a little respect in return. That's not happening because that's not what you want anyway so the situation is not going to change.
As far as Prowler inviting me and me being lucky I'm here, you people have the power to ban my ass, if you feel the need go ahead.
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We don't ban people over here, thats the other shitty, heavily moderated, poorly ran Auburn message board.
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We don't ban people over here, thats the other shitty, heavily moderated, poorly ran Auburn message board.
Right, we're the other shitty, poorly ran Auburn message board. They're the on their own on the heavily moderated thing.
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Well with your comments, regardless of what I post, It's a bit hard to try and be sensible. I tried to be a respectable member of the forum but you keep showing what you are about and your intentions constantly.
I'm responding to you in the manner in which you've been addressing me since I came here. Unfortunately it takes almost all the fun outta this place for me so I don't get much of a chance at being realistic or enjoying some of the other members. Before you started this ‘‘runs this Bammer off campaign’’ by baiting your fucking comments (knowing no one is going to put up with your insults constantly) I didn't have any problems with anyone here.
You are by far the most hypocritical Au poster in the history of message boards. That includes a shit load of fucked up Bama posters I've seen.
You’re nothing but a resident shit stirrer intent on fucking up this place and you do your job very well.
You want a respectable member of the site to talk and enjoy football then try acting like one. You may get surprised and find that you'll get a little respect in return. That's not happening because that's not what you want anyway so the situation is not going to change.
As far as Prowler inviting me and me being lucky I'm here, you people have the power to ban my ass, if you feel the need go ahead.
There's a lot of compliments in this one. Do I get a prize of some sort? You can post, and you can be mad at me all you want, but I'm sorry, your were the fucktard Gridiron first, and you held nothing back. You did it LONG before I called you out here and treated you like I do.
I'll tell you what, get on your knees, clasp your hands and say you're sorry for being the the biggest bammer douche ever, suck jumbo's dick a little more, and maybe, I'll leave you alone. Deal? :vn: