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Title: On Cam...
Post by: Kaos on January 10, 2015, 11:16:34 PM
Hate Pete Carroll. Fuck him right in the pussy.

But that game clinching pick was on Cam.  Hate to see them lose.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on January 11, 2015, 08:21:08 AM
I was thinking last night how amazing it was that Carolina was even in that game.  I watched them play around week 4 or 5 and thought the whole team looked dead.  It looked like Cam was bored, tired, and ready to get the fuck out of dodge.  Granted, the NFC South was one of the worst divisions in NFL history this year, but the small run Carolina was able to put together to end the season was impressive.

I still think Cam needs to find a new team if Carolina won't get rid of Shula and Rivera or make some decent GM moves in the offseason.  I don't think Cam will ever be an elite NFL QB, but he has the tools to be one of the more exciting players in the league and could definitely win a Super Bowl if he had a good offensive line.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: djsimp on January 11, 2015, 12:03:27 PM
I don't think Carolinas OL is that bad. Whatever mix they had towards the end of season they need to stick with. Cam needs one more big body WR that can make plays. They have the other pieces in place to be a very good offensive football team. Their D is pretty good also. This team will only get better. Heck, it's amazing how many rookies they have in the starting lineup and still make a decent playoff run.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Kaos on January 11, 2015, 12:22:25 PM
I don't think Carolinas OL is that bad. Whatever mix they had towards the end of season they need to stick with. Cam needs one more big body WR that can make plays. They have the other pieces in place to be a very good offensive football team. Their D is pretty good also. This team will only get better. Heck, it's amazing how many rookies they have in the starting lineup and still make a decent playoff run.


I nearly threw up listening to the announcers blow Seattle's quarterback. 
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: djsimp on January 11, 2015, 12:28:49 PM

I nearly threw up listening to the announcers blow Seattle's quarterback.

Yeah, they were hanging off his nut sack like monkeys on the vine. 

I will give it to the Seahawks, their D is pretty damn good too. They have an excellent secondary. I knew it would be a tall order for the Panthers to come out of Seattle with a win. The first half my hopes were high. The second, not so much. Cam threw some bad picks and part of that was just Seattles D making shit happen. Cam needs more touch on his deep throws. Hit short and intermediate passes are like lasers.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: GH2001 on January 12, 2015, 08:52:49 AM

I nearly threw up listening to the announcers blow Seattle's quarterback.

Well, wait until you hear the Luck/Rodgers/Brady orgy on air next weekend.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 12, 2015, 09:49:55 AM
Unfortunately, several really questionable calls have impacted the playoffs so far.  Dallas had one in their favor against Detroit and one that killed em' yesterday against GB.  Honestly, I didn't watch the Dallas/Detroit game so I have no clue where in the game the PI/Woops Not PI call came.  I imagine it was at a critical time because they showed it 3,856 times per hour.  I'm a Dallas fan but no question it was, at a very minimum, holding when the defender tried to undress the receiver.  Should have been called.

I thought calling no catch on the Dez Bryant play was a huge hose job.  Definitely at a critical time in the game.  Jason Garrett handled it well in the interview I saw with Chris Meyers.  He basically said it's a 60 minute game and one call doesn't determine the outcome. 

Last night, Denver could get nothing going offensively.  For some reason, everything Manning threw was a 3-7 yard pass.  The Colts played press all night and stifled the Broncos offense.  But down one score, the Broncos punted.  The receiver dropped the ball when one of his guys was blocked into him and cleaned his clock.  Broncos recovered.  While reviewing, they brought one of the former officials on to analyze the call, as they often do now.  The official said it was clearly Broncos ball (Deep in Colts territory)  After further review, the receiver was down by contact.  Colts ball.  Horse hockey.  The guy never had it.  He was out on his feet and never had it.

Anyway, now that the Falcons are out, I have very little interest.     

Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Kaos on January 12, 2015, 09:53:19 AM
Anyway, now that the Falcons are out, I have very little interest.   

So you haven't cared since August?
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 12, 2015, 09:56:01 AM
So you haven't cared since August?

They were 2-1 after week three.  They were rising up.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: GH2001 on January 12, 2015, 10:02:04 AM
Unfortunately, several really questionable calls have impacted the playoffs so far.  Dallas had one in their favor against Detroit and one that killed em' yesterday against GB.  Honestly, I didn't watch the Dallas/Detroit game so I have no clue where in the game the PI/Woops Not PI call came.  I imagine it was at a critical time because they showed it 3,856 times per hour.  I'm a Dallas fan but no question it was, at a very minimum, holding when the defender tried to undress the receiver.  Should have been called.

I thought calling no catch on the Dez Bryant play was a huge hose job.  Definitely at a critical time in the game.  Jason Garrett handled it well in the interview I saw with Chris Meyers.  He basically said it's a 60 minute game and one call doesn't determine the outcome. 

Last night, Denver could get nothing going offensively.  For some reason, everything Manning threw was a 3-7 yard pass.  The Colts played press all night and stifled the Broncos offense.  But down one score, the Broncos punted.  The receiver dropped the ball when one of his guys was blocked into him and cleaned his clock.  Broncos recovered.  While reviewing, they brought one of the former officials on to analyze the call, as they often do now.  The official said it was clearly Broncos ball (Deep in Colts territory)  After further review, the receiver was down by contact.  Colts ball.  Horse hockey.  The guy never had it.  He was out on his feet and never had it.

Anyway, now that the Falcons are out, I have very little interest.   

Both calls yesterday were bad.

People can reference the Article 3 Calvin Johnson rule until they are blue in the face but the ruling was about subjectivity. The refs deemed the "catch it, tuck it, take possession, take 3 steps, and head for the endzone lunge" all one big fall to the ground and part of the catch, thus they could reference the Article 3 rule to deem it incomplete. If you consider all of that one big step, then yes, the rule called for it being incomplete.

Common sense will tell you that what Dez did was not one big catch and fall to the ground. He took posession, and then was advancing it with 3 steps. Only when he goes to the ground at the end of the lunge does he bobble the ball. My big burn with it is that it is supposed to take an Act of Congress to overturn an on field ruling, and this was a subjective judgement at best. To say that "the steps dont count as possession" is such a slippery slope and dangerous statement to make.

In the end, the NFL and its refs look like a bunch of buffoons - not just for that play but for all of their snafus the last couple of weeks. Yes, including picking up the PI last week. Just don't throw it in the first place if it wasn't. But if you are going to throw the flag, picking it up looks bad.

The Clay Matthews late hit on Romo not being called bewildered me. It was a TD on the play, but a penalty could have sent a message. Instead, Matthews and the rest of the GB DL teed off on his knees the whole game. The GB OL holds more than any OL not named Alabama.

Just bad officiating all around in general.

And I hope Russell Wilson pisses all over the Brady/Rodgers/Luck love fest. Seattle is truly the only team that really deserved to win this weekend. Patriots = Cheaters.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Saniflush on January 12, 2015, 10:16:32 AM
So you haven't cared since August?

of 1981
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: GH2001 on January 12, 2015, 10:38:43 AM
of 1981
or ever?

Too LEGIT....TOO LEGIT TO QUIT!
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Godfather on January 12, 2015, 10:47:09 AM
All I kept thinking during the Seahawks game was how amazing Cam would look at QB for them.  Don't get me wrong Wilson is good, but that is more of a system QB, I think Cam would look better.  Shula is a moron.

I am officially on the Peyton manning is a great QB but not the GOAT bus.  Dude is a choke artist. All that talent in Denver and you can only muster 13 vs the Colts.  For shame.  Even though I hate the fucking PAT's Brady deserves to be called GOAT more than Manning stats or not.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 12, 2015, 10:58:16 AM
All I kept thinking during the Seahawks game was how amazing Cam would look at QB for them.  Don't get me wrong Wilson is good, but that is more of a system QB, I think Cam would look better.  Shula is a moron.

I am officially on the Peyton manning is a great QB but not the GOAT bus.  Dude is a choke artist. All that talent in Denver and you can only muster 13 vs the Colts.  For shame.  Even though I hate the fucking PAT's Brady deserves to be called GOAT more than Manning stats or not.


What does RWS have to do with any of this?
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: djsimp on January 12, 2015, 11:11:08 AM

What does RWS have to do with any of this?

Yeah, seriously, the Cowboys lost.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 12, 2015, 11:49:32 AM
Cam made some bad throws but he def isn't the only reason Panthers lost. I still think that the story is that they even got things in order to be in a position to advance.

If that RB makes the catch on that 15 yd slant, they are possibly going down to make it an interesting game. If's and but's.

Seahawks have a good D. I just think Panthers need to figure out a way to get Cam more protection. Don't know if it's players or play calling.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: DnATL on January 12, 2015, 01:26:04 PM
Cam made some bad throws but he def isn't the only reason Panthers lost. I still think that the story is that they even got things in order to be in a position to advance.

If that RB makes the catch on that 15 yd slant, they are possibly going down to make it an interesting game. If's and but's.

Seahawks have a good D. I just think Panthers need to figure out a way to get Cam more protection. Don't know if it's players or play calling.
Maybe a chauffer would help too
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: The Six on January 12, 2015, 01:49:22 PM
Cam is due to earn $14,666,666 which will also be the cap hit he is on the Panthers' salary cap. Anyone think they let that happen since it is not guaranteed? No way. They have $17,885,405 in cap space. He'll have to resign and for far less if he wants to stay in Carolina methinks.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/cam-newton/ (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/cam-newton/)
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: CCTAU on January 12, 2015, 02:31:27 PM
Cam made some bad throws but he def isn't the only reason Panthers lost. I still think that the story is that they even got things in order to be in a position to advance.

If that RB makes the catch on that 15 yd slant, they are possibly going down to make it an interesting game. If's and but's.

Seahawks have a good D. I just think Panthers need to figure out a way to get Cam more protection. Don't know if it's players or play calling.

He needs some WRs. The Benji kid is good, but he is lazy. He  has no fight in him. If the ball isn't right on the money, he'll sit back and watch an interception.

Steve Smith Jr. is laughing...
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: GH2001 on January 12, 2015, 02:47:47 PM
He needs some WRs. The Benji kid is good, but he is lazy. He  has no fight in him. If the ball isn't right on the money, he'll sit back and watch an interception.

Steve Smith Jr. is laughing...

He is also a back of the endzone kind of WR. Not exactly a burner.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Godfather on January 12, 2015, 02:48:29 PM
He needs some WRs. The Benji kid is good, but he is lazy. He  has no fight in him. If the ball isn't right on the money, he'll sit back and watch an interception.

Steve Smith Jr. is laughing...
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Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 12, 2015, 02:58:24 PM
Olsen is a heckuva' TE and Benjamin is someone to build around in the receiving corp.  After that, it's a bunch of no names.  Carolina completely gutted their receivers and Cam came into this season having never thrown to any of these guys.  The D is solid enough to go deep in the playoffs.  They either need to go get Mr. Newton some playmakers or trade the guy and start over. 
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Godfather on January 12, 2015, 03:01:54 PM
I think the pieces are already there, they could use 1 other receiver maybe, but other teams do more with less. 

I think the problem is Shula.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 12, 2015, 03:10:09 PM
I think the pieces are already there, they could use 1 other receiver maybe, but other teams do more with less. 

I think the problem is Shula.

Teams only beat Carolina when they're down.
Title: Re: On Cam...
Post by: CCTAU on January 12, 2015, 10:12:08 PM
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