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Title: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 16, 2014, 12:38:10 PM
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SI.com has learned that Will Muschamp has been dismissed at Florida. Story upcoming.

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Will Muschamp will coach final 2 games, stepping down as UF’s coach, source told @ESPN
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: bottomfeeder on November 16, 2014, 12:52:21 PM
Let's hire him a our new DC.
 #winning
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 16, 2014, 01:06:17 PM
Let's hire him a our new DC.
 #winning

Thanks to Jay Jacobs and some nonsense about tickets at a bowl game, that ship sailed long ago in the Tubs era. Muschamp will get a chance again somewhere down the line and probably out of the SEC.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 17, 2014, 04:12:54 PM
Yeah, I'd take CWM in a second.  So, who does UF go after?  Could have a huge impact on the SEC if they get the right guy.

Big Game Bob?

Rich Rod?

Mullen?

Chip Kelley?

Been listening to PF some and most of the "experts" think the first 3 are no-go's.  To be honest, Kelley would scare the hell out of me.  I think the guy is a great coach and from what I've read, he's a workaholic when it comes to the foosballz.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: djsimp on November 17, 2014, 04:27:05 PM
Yeah, I'd take CWM in a second.  So, who does UF go after?  Could have a huge impact on the SEC if they get the right guy.

Big Game Bob?

Rich Rod?

Mullen?

Chip Kelley?

Been listening to PF some and most of the "experts" think the first 3 are no-go's.  To be honest, Kelley would scare the hell out of me.  I think the guy is a great coach and from what I've read, he's a workaholic when it comes to the foosballz.

The facepages says Vegas odds are on Gundy.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 17, 2014, 04:28:51 PM
Yeah, I'd take CWM in a second.  So, who does UF go after?  Could have a huge impact on the SEC if they get the right guy.

Big Game Bob?

Rich Rod?

Mullen?

Chip Kelley?

Been listening to PF some and most of the "experts" think the first 3 are no-go's.  To be honest, Kelley would scare the hell out of me.  I think the guy is a great coach and from what I've read, he's a workaholic when it comes to the foosballz.

I would put Todd Graham on the "to call list" if I were Foley.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Godfather on November 17, 2014, 04:35:33 PM
Why would Kelly leave the NFL? Philly loves him.

Rich Rod would be a mistake, IMO.

Bob ain't leaving Choklahoma, he can't cut it in Big 12 he definitely wont cut it in SEC.


The answer has been and will be Mullen.  (again this isn't an endorsement, I just saying that's who it will be.)  and no one else finds it a coincidence that the weekend Mullen loses they fire Muschamp.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Kaos on November 17, 2014, 04:36:36 PM
The first name brought up as a potential candidate on ESPN last night was....

Gus Malzahn

 :facepalm:

This after emphatically declaring the two names Florida would not consider were Mullen and Rodriguez.  I don't think they want their crazy/bitch wives. 
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 17, 2014, 04:43:04 PM
I think Muschamp is a pretty good DC, I just don't think he would be a right fit at AU (even if he would come back).  I don't know that Gus would put up with his outburst on the sidelines, but I think we need someone that will light into a players ass when they mess up.  Like Snaggs, I would take him back in a heartbeat though.

It was sad for me to see Rock on the their sideline Saturday night ripping into his line and a linebacker when coming off the filed during the 4th quarter when the game was well in hand.  I just wonder how rough our coaches are on our players.  Maybe I miss it, but I don't see it much on the D side of the ball during games.  I see out offensive coaches get pissed about plays.  Like I said, I might just be missing it.

Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: djsimp on November 17, 2014, 04:46:29 PM
The answer has been and will be Mullen.

This is what I am thinking. Mullen has already made his mind I believe.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Tiger Wench on November 17, 2014, 04:50:29 PM
This is what I am thinking. Mullen has already made his mind I believe.

Yet two weeks ago he was calling MissTake a "Destination job"...

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In an interview with FOX Sports Live, Mullen was asked about the possibility of other teams calling, and while he didn't entirely rule out the possibility of a departure, he also said that he is in "the primo destination place" and that his job is an enviable as any.

"If they do [make job offers], then who knows? I think that's one of the most challenging things in this profession, as a coach, you're either on the hot seat, or you're on the way out the door. This time last year, I was on the hot seat after the Alabama game. This time, this year now, I have all the answers. So you go from smart to dumb to smart in a hurry, I guess.

The grass isn't always greener. We're the No. 1 team in the country so I think maybe more people are wondering, they want this job more than I want other jobs. I'm at the primo destination place. We're No. 1."

What a fuck stick.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Tiger Wench on November 17, 2014, 04:52:04 PM
It was sad for me to see Rock on the their sideline Saturday night ripping into his line and a linebacker when coming off the filed during the 4th quarter when the game was well in hand.  I just wonder how rough our coaches are on our players.  Maybe I miss it, but I don't see it much on the D side of the ball during games.  I see out offensive coaches get pissed about plays.  Like I said, I might just be missing it.

I want Rock back SO DAMN BAD.  The only other one I would want more would be Takeo No Neck Spikes.  I don't even know if he could coach.  But he could sure as hell motivate some people to get off their asses and fuck the other guy up.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 17, 2014, 04:54:59 PM
Why would Kelly leave the NFL? Philly loves him.

Rich Rod would be a mistake, IMO.

Bob ain't leaving Choklahoma, he can't cut it in Big 12 he definitely wont cut it in SEC.


The answer has been and will be Mullen.  (again this isn't an endorsement, I just saying that's who it will be.)  and no one else finds it a coincidence that the weekend Mullen loses they fire Muschamp.

No Colonel Sanders, you're wrong.  Honestly, I have no clue whatsoever and really don't care as long as they don't hit a home run with this hire. Only speculating on Kelley from the standpoint of who knows if he's had a taste of both and he's not really in love with the NFL?  Haven't heard that but you wonder what it's like trying to corch multi million $$$ pre-Madonnas as opposed to college kids you can discipline how you see fit?
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: djsimp on November 17, 2014, 04:55:33 PM
Yet two weeks ago he was calling MissTake a "Destination job"...

What a fuck stick.

Thats funny. It was these same remarks from Mullen that I was thinking about when posting this. He has gone out of his way like many have before him to "ensure" he was staying put. Yeah right.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: GH2001 on November 17, 2014, 04:56:25 PM
The first name brought up as a potential candidate on ESPN last night was....

Gus Malzahn

 :facepalm:

This after emphatically declaring the two names Florida would not consider were Mullen and Rodriguez.  I don't think they want their crazy/bitch wives.

Texas job > Fla job.

Texas has more history, money, was supposed to be Gus' dream job, closer to his home, less recruiting battles, easier path to a Natty.

If Gus told Texas no then he will tell anyone in CFB no.

Personally I think Graham would be a great hire for them. And yes, Kelly would scare the shit out of me with Fla athletes.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 17, 2014, 05:00:01 PM
Thats funny. It was these same remarks from Mullen that I was thinking about when posting this. He has gone out of his way like many have before him to "ensure" he was staying put. Yeah right.

You're not saying he will leave Starkville in a pine box?
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Tiger Wench on November 17, 2014, 05:01:31 PM
Why would Kelly leave the NFL? Philly loves him.

My neighbor is a massive Philly born and bred Iggle and they think Kelly is the Moses to lead them back to the promised land.  He also thinks Cody Parkey is the fucking man.

He is right on the second one. 

But yeah, for the moment, Kelly is set.  As big an asshole as he is, he is a perfect fit for their fan base. 
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 17, 2014, 05:02:39 PM
Mullen doesn't have a choice. UF isn't calling. However, I think Todd Graham at AZ State and Patterson TCU would be likely contacted by Foley.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: GH2001 on November 17, 2014, 05:04:01 PM
Patterson and Briles are two more that are very good and established. Both built somethings out of nothings.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: djsimp on November 17, 2014, 05:09:29 PM
You're not saying he will leave Starkville in a pine box?

Well, that is a possibility if he doesn't leave in the middle of the night out the back door.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 17, 2014, 05:15:30 PM
It's obvious to anyone that knows the foosballs.  Gus was obviously preoccupied on Saturday night.  That means Jeremy Foley called him during pregame warmups and offered him the job. 
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 17, 2014, 05:19:41 PM
It's obvious to anyone that knows the foosballs.  Gus was obviously preoccupied on Saturday night.  That means Jeremy Foley called him during pregame warmups and offered him the job.

You may be on to something here.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: bottomfeeder on November 17, 2014, 06:17:33 PM
Auburn's issue on defense is coaching, not talent, says Ellis Johnson (http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2014/11/auburns_defensive_issue_is_coa.html?hootPostID=05d15d3395e200aaae81d28d6db2a162)

Auburn's issue on defense is coaching, not talent, says Ellis Johnson
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Prowler on November 17, 2014, 06:47:03 PM
Patterson and Briles are two more that are very good and established. Both built somethings out of nothings.
They'll all be in line, behind Jim Harbaugh.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: chinook on November 17, 2014, 07:25:41 PM
The first name brought up as a potential candidate on ESPN last night was....

Gus Malzahn

 :facepalm:

This after emphatically declaring the two names Florida would not consider were Mullen and Rodriguez.  I don't think they want their crazy/bitch wives.

I thought so...I couldn't for the love of missing remote gods rewind.   Thanks for your set of ears.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: bottomfeeder on November 17, 2014, 07:53:00 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Xh8PaJ8f4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Xh8PaJ8f4#ws)
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: AUJarhead on November 17, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
I thought so...I couldn't for the love of missing remote gods rewind.   Thanks for your set of ears.

Also some high quality contributions.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Godfather on November 17, 2014, 08:57:06 PM
Patterson and Briles are two more that are very good and established. Both built somethings out of nothings.
Patterson isn't going anywhere he has had better offers.  Briles isn't going anywhere because he has an easier path to the playoff. (as does Patterson)
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: GH2001 on November 18, 2014, 09:05:57 AM
Patterson isn't going anywhere he has had better offers.  Briles isn't going anywhere because he has an easier path to the playoff. (as does Patterson)

Offered a better gig than the HC gig at UF? UF isnt Texas or USC but damn its probably a top 5-6 job nationally.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: djsimp on November 18, 2014, 10:12:17 AM
I seriously think that Muschamp will be Auburns next DC......again. I know I know, there seems to be some issues with him and Jacobs but money talks and bullshit walks.

Imagine this, Mullen takes over the Florida job the day after they lose to Ole Miss and that Monday, Muschamp accepts the DC position at Auburn after an Iron Bowl victory. I'm sure the last two losses will be a distant memory at that point.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Godfather on November 18, 2014, 10:25:26 AM
I seriously think that Muschamp will be Auburns next DC......again. I know I know, there seems to be some issues with him and Jacobs but money talks and bullshit walks.

Imagine this, Mullen takes over the Florida job the day after they lose to Ole Miss and that Monday, Muschamp accepts the DC position at Auburn after an Iron Bowl victory. I'm sure the last two losses will be a distant memory at that point.
Not that I wouldn't mind it happening (him returning to Auburn), but I think Muschamp ends up DC at aTm. 

Personally and I'm not advocating CEJ being fired,because I still think 2 years even for a coordinator is way to short of a life span, I say we offer Coach Rock the head DC job.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: GH2001 on November 18, 2014, 10:41:26 AM
Not that I wouldn't mind it happening (him returning to Auburn), but I think Muschamp ends up DC at aTm. 

Personally and I'm not advocating CEJ being fired,because I still think 2 years even for a coordinator is way to short of a life span, I say we offer Coach Rock the head DC job.

Paul Rhodes?
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: RottenBottom on November 18, 2014, 10:42:39 AM
What about David Gibbs?
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 18, 2014, 10:46:43 AM
Hell, what about Chizik, we are already paying him, might as well get something out of it.  :haha:
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: GH2001 on November 18, 2014, 10:49:35 AM
Hell, what about Chizik, we are already paying him, might as well get something out of it.  :haha:

On paper? Sure. He was a good DC. He knows X's and O's and is pretty even keel as a DC. He's good at playcalling and scheming when he doesnt have to run an entire program.

Logically though? Hell no. Too much past, bad history, knowing what he did to our program at the end with the issues and he being back on our sidelines, bad mojo, working for a guy who was just working for him? Too weird...just weird.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 18, 2014, 11:02:10 AM
I seriously think that Muschamp will be Auburns next DC......again. I know I know, there seems to be some issues with him and Jacobs but money talks and bullshoot walks.

Imagine this, Mullen takes over the Florida job the day after they lose to Ole Miss and that Monday, Muschamp accepts the DC position at Auburn after an Iron Bowl victory. I'm sure the last two losses will be a distant memory at that point.
I have already spoken on the Mullen to UF scenario. Why do you people fail to recognize and appreciate my insight?

I'm the only real insider on here and I run in the same circles with other insiders. Others on here borrow their uncle's password to get on Inside the Auburn Tigers message boards or get info from their brother in law who has a membership at the Y and has a water aerobics class with "someone in the know".

Bitches, Mullen isn't going to Florida.

I don't like Muschamps personality but would take him in a second as DC. I kind of doubt it happens due to the aforementioned issues with Jackson and Jacobs.

If there are zero changes on the defensive staff, I expect zero change in the defense next season. I hope Gus will make changes as needed or that I'm wrong if he makes none.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: djsimp on November 18, 2014, 11:03:09 AM
Not that I wouldn't mind it happening (him returning to Auburn), but I think Muschamp ends up DC at aTm. 

Personally and I'm not advocating CEJ being fired,because I still think 2 years even for a coordinator is way to short of a life span, I say we offer Coach Rock the head DC job.

Damn, Coach Rock would be great.

As far as Johnson, I can hear the BSPN pundits now with their typically sissy remarks if Johnson is fired. Chizad will have to take a day off from work for his twatter battles.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: ssgaufan on November 18, 2014, 11:04:51 AM
Damn, Coach Rock would be great.

As far as Johnson, I can hear the BSPN pundits now with their typically sissy remarks if Johnson is fired. Chizad will have to take a day off from work for his twatter battles.

Who?
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Godfather on November 18, 2014, 11:14:31 AM
Who?

You know Chizad the Pirate...the guy that dresses up on our team like a Pirate.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 18, 2014, 11:14:50 AM
Who?
He was this gay guy who used to post on here a while back. And racist.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: AUJarhead on November 18, 2014, 11:28:49 AM
You know Chizad the Pirate...the guy that dresses up on our team like a Pirate.

Wait, there's a guy on our team who dresses like a pirate?
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Catphish Tilly on November 18, 2014, 11:34:27 AM
I've noticed we have a lot of great candidates on this here board. I don't know why Gus hasn't sent a PM to more than one of you already. Then again, maybe he already has. #auburnfast
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: GH2001 on November 18, 2014, 11:45:11 AM
I've noticed we have a lot of great candidates on this here board. I don't know why Gus hasn't sent a PM to more than one of you already. Then again, maybe he already has. #auburnfast

If thats the rule, then just about every thread in X history should be locked.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Godfather on November 18, 2014, 12:15:51 PM
Wait, there's a guy on our team who dresses like a pirate?

Chizad? Chizad the Pirate? "Scurvy."
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Catphish Tilly on November 18, 2014, 12:27:41 PM
If thats the rule, then just about every thread in X history should be locked.

Burn this motha down!
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: ssgaufan on November 18, 2014, 12:33:15 PM
I've noticed we have a lot of great candidates on this here board. I don't know why Gus hasn't sent a PM to more than one of you already. Then again, maybe he already has. #auburnfast

I received one, but politely turned Gus down.  Told him that I didn't want to ruin my reputation and chance to land at a bigger program.  You know, like Starkville. 
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: jmar on November 18, 2014, 12:35:14 PM
I have already spoken on the Mullen to UF scenario. Why do you people fail to recognize and appreciate my insight?

I'm the only real insider on here and I run in the same circles with other insiders. Others on here borrow their uncle's password to get on Inside the Auburn Tigers message boards or get info from their brother in law who has a membership at the Y and has a water aerobics class with "someone in the know".

Bitches, Mullen isn't going to Florida.

I don't like Muschamps personality but would take him in a second as DC. I kind of doubt it happens due to the aforementioned issues with Jackson and Jacobs.

If there are zero changes on the defensive staff, I expect zero change in the defense next season. I hope Gus will make changes as needed or that I'm wrong if he makes none.
Oh Swami,
Wouldn't you think EJ gets an extention rather than a pink slip?  I mean, we're gonna beat the Turds at their place right?

I could see EJ taking a DC job after his experience at Southern but I don't think Boom is apt to retrace his roots after being at the precipice with Texas and coming off the Florida gig with bulging pockets.

Is Coach Rock not the #2 man at UGA behind DC Jeremy Pruett?
Have we not enough room on the payroll for both he and Garner being as Garner is our recruiting chief?
That would put UGA in a fucking headlock and likely injure other programs pilfering talent in that state.

On another note: Other than Brian Kelly, Jim Harbaugh, Dan Mullen and our own HC, aren't Butch Jones and Mark Stoops young enough and better long term candidates for the UF job than the many we have seen mentioned? I think Foley will avoid anyone he doesn't think he can eventually manipulate.   
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Tiger Wench on November 18, 2014, 12:41:06 PM
Personally I think Foley will avoid anyone he doesn't think he can eventually manipulate.   

This.  Foley comes across as a meddling, power hungry mofo.  I can see how he and Coach Boom might not have been BFFs.  He looks like a wanna be drill sergeant and probably has delusions of grandeur.  Not very impressed with him.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Godfather on November 18, 2014, 12:44:00 PM
Oh Swami,
Wouldn't you think EJ gets an extention rather than a pink slip?  I mean, we're gonna beat the Turds at their place right?

I could see EJ taking a DC job after his experience at Southern but I don't think Boom is apt to retrace his roots after being at the precipice with Texas and coming off the Florida gig with bulging pockets.

Is Coach Rock not the #2 man at UGA behind DC Jeremy Pruett?
Have we not enough room on the payroll for both he and Garner being as Garner is our recruiting chief?
That would put UGA in a fucking headlock and likely injure other programs pilfering talent in that state.

On another note: Other than Brian Kelly, Jim Harbaugh, Dan Mullen and our own HC, aren't Butch Jones and Mark Stoops young enough and better long term candidates for the UF job than the many we have seen mentioned? Personally I think Foley will avoid anyone he doesn't think he can eventually manipulate.   

Foley has two things IMO opinion that drive his coaching search.
1. He has to go offense, as anemic the Gathas have been on offense, and with the fans clamoring I think this is the route he takes. (unless he were to pull off someone like Harbaugh, which if Harbaugh goes anywhere its Michigan)
2. He has to go proven Head Coach, he can't afford another coordinator no matter how good he appears.  This criteria might change depend on who turns them down, but I still think they won't really target any coordinator coaches.

Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Godfather on November 18, 2014, 12:46:05 PM
This.  Foley comes across as a meddling, power hungry mofo.  I can see how he and Coach Boom might not have been BFFs.  He looks like a wanna be drill sergeant and probably has delusions of grandeur.  Not very impressed with him.
Actually from what I have heard from actual bull gatahs and supposed PITK is that he is a great AD. He also has always had a pretty good reputation.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: djsimp on November 18, 2014, 12:47:42 PM
Who?

First name AU last name Chizad. He loves the twatters.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 18, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
First name AU last name Chizad. He loves the twatters.

He likes to battle
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: djsimp on November 18, 2014, 12:50:43 PM
He likes to battle

56/64th of the time.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: jmar on November 18, 2014, 01:23:32 PM
 :facepalm:

"Don't know if the problem is Obama, the polar vortex, Jeremy Foley, Kristy Malzahn or that embarrassing dance video that is distracting Gus. All I know is that it needs to be fixed...toot sweet!
Samford is gearing up for a showdown at JHSPDF."

I half- jokingly threw Foley's name out on another thread as possible reasons for our recent struggles on offense.

Somebody tell me we have no reason for concern and kindly list the reasons.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: GH2001 on November 18, 2014, 01:31:18 PM
Oh Swami,
Wouldn't you think EJ gets an extention rather than a pink slip?  I mean, we're gonna beat the Turds at their place right?

I could see EJ taking a DC job after his experience at Southern but I don't think Boom is apt to retrace his roots after being at the precipice with Texas and coming off the Florida gig with bulging pockets.

Is Coach Rock not the #2 man at UGA behind DC Jeremy Pruett?
Have we not enough room on the payroll for both he and Garner being as Garner is our recruiting chief?
That would put UGA in a fucking headlock and likely injure other programs pilfering talent in that state.

On another note: Other than Brian Kelly, Jim Harbaugh, Dan Mullen and our own HC, aren't Butch Jones and Mark Stoops young enough and better long term candidates for the UF job than the many we have seen mentioned? I think Foley will avoid anyone he doesn't think he can eventually manipulate.   

I dont think someone's first DC job needs to be at a big name SEC school. I like Rock but hes never been a DC. The top part of the SEC, especially at Auburn where our Defense sucks, is not a place to learn on the job as a coordinator.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 18, 2014, 01:34:03 PM
Actually from what I have heard from actual bull gatahs and supposed PITK is that he is a great AD. He also has always had a pretty good reputation.
He has a good rep but he's 1 for 3 on football hires and the one ended rather odd.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: jmar on November 18, 2014, 01:51:36 PM
I dont think someone's first DC job needs to be at a big name SEC school. I like Rock but hes never been a DC. The top part of the SEC, especially at Auburn where our Defense sucks, is not a place to learn on the job as a coordinator.
Actually I was sort of hoping to bring him back and us go Co DC's until EJ leaves.
Maybe that's asking too much.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 18, 2014, 01:53:05 PM
Paul Rhodes?

For a DC I think that would be a damn good hire.  You know where I stand on Tuberville and that I am not his biggest fan.  Never have been.  But he is a great defensive mind and was real high on Paul Rhoads.  Tired to hire him before he hired Muschamp.  Despite what happened at the end of the 08 season, Rhoads had us ranked #2 in total defense until the wheels feel off and we still managed to stay a top 20 D under him. 
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: jmar on November 18, 2014, 02:01:28 PM
For a DC I think that would be a damn good hire.  You know where I stand on Tuberville and that I am not his biggest fan.  Never have been.  But he is a great defensive mind and was real high on Paul Rhoads.  Tired to hire him before he hired Muschamp.  Despite what happened at the end of the 08 season, Rhoads had us ranked #2 in total defense until the wheels feel off and we still managed to stay a top 20 D under him.
He's a good one but I thought they loved him at ISU.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 18, 2014, 03:00:37 PM
He's a good one but I thought they loved him at ISU.

At 2-7 this year I have a faint feeling the love is wearing off.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 18, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
He's a good one but I thought they loved him at ISU.

There are some rumblings, he did go 3-9 last year and finished next to last in the Big 12.  This year he is 2-7 with last place all but locked up unless he beats Texas Tech, TCU, WVU.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 18, 2014, 03:35:56 PM
Why would Rhoades come back though?  I can't imagine his first experience was all that great. 

I like to picture these coaches as human beings.  Sort of like you and me.  Would you take a demotion to a job you held for a year and was fired from and in a small city you had no connections to?  Would you take that demotion when you could easily find another job someplace else?
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 18, 2014, 03:43:49 PM
Why would Rhoades come back though?  I can't imagine his first experience was all that great. 

I like to picture these coaches as human beings.  Sort of like you and me.  Would you take a demotion to a job you held for a year and was fired from and in a small city you had no connections to?  Would you take that demotion when you could easily find another job someplace else?


I don't look at it like a demotion, you are going from somewhere you really can't win (and he hasn't) to the power conference. He comes and changes (let's say AU) our defense, makes us top ten again and that opens up new doors for him later on. Waiting on another HC gig after leaving ISU gives him few options. (IMO)
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Catphish Tilly on November 18, 2014, 03:47:25 PM
:facepalm:

"Don't know if the problem is Obama, the polar vortex, Jeremy Foley, Kristy Malzahn or that embarrassing dance video that is distracting Gus. All I know is that it needs to be fixed...toot sweet!
Samford is gearing up for a showdown at JHSPDF."

I half- jokingly threw Foley's name out on another thread as possible reasons for our recent struggles on offense.

Somebody tell me we have no reason for concern and kindly list the reasons.

We have no reason for concern.

1) Florida wants to beat Georgia
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 18, 2014, 03:49:50 PM
We have no reason for concern.

1) Florida wants to beat Georgia

Point of order - they did that WITH Muschamp.

Anybody bothered to see Gus's buyout? Would have to pay remaining amount on his contract here AND any of the assistants that aren't retained at Auburn by next HC. Could have to pay $20-$22 million JUST TO GET HIM then they have to pay him.

Ain't. Happening.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 18, 2014, 03:51:04 PM

I don't look at like a demotion, you are going from somewhere you really can't win (and he hasn't) to the power conference. He comes and changes (let's say AU) our defense, makes us top ten again and that opens up new doors for him later on. Waiting on another HC gig after leaving ISU gives him few options. (IMO)

Good point.

I loved his defense and I loved his style on the sideline.  A real old fashioned, lunch-pail guy that really cared about his players.  If someone can find it, there's a great clip after the infamous 3-2 victory over Miss State of him getting his defense riled up in celebration of the shut out.  I want to say you can read his lips saying, "Shut those motherfuckers out!" 

I'd love to have him back. 
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 18, 2014, 03:55:02 PM
3-9 and 2-7 at ISU?  That makes him a prime candidate for a major D1 Head Corching job.



BOOOOOOOOOO....We want a leader, not a loser.  BOOOOOOOOOO...
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 18, 2014, 03:59:07 PM
3-9 and 2-7 at ISU?  That makes him a prime candidate for a major D1 Head Corching job.



BOOOOOOOOOO....We want a leader, not a loser.  BOOOOOOOOOO...

Paul Rhoades to Florida.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 18, 2014, 04:00:01 PM
Paul Rhoades to Florida.

Bingo.  Search over.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 18, 2014, 04:01:28 PM
Paul Rhoades to Florida.

Bingo.  Search over.

Chizik back to Iowa State?
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Townhallsavoy on November 18, 2014, 04:03:05 PM
Chizik back to Iowa State?

Les Miles to Michigan.

Hugh Freeze to LSU.

Tommy Tuberville to Ole Miss.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Catphish Tilly on November 18, 2014, 04:05:44 PM
Good point.

I loved his defense and I loved his style on the sideline.  A real old fashioned, lunch-pail guy that really cared about his players.  If someone can find it, there's a great clip after the infamous 3-2 victory over Miss State of him getting his defense riled up in celebration of the shut out.  I want to say you can read his lips saying, "Shut those motherfudgeers out!" 

I'd love to have him back.

I miss quality Auburn Defense. Speaking of coaches stopping some motherfuckers...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZSy2JH8iu4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZSy2JH8iu4)
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Godfather on November 18, 2014, 04:08:23 PM
Rhodes?


Where we are going we don't need Rhodes!
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 18, 2014, 04:09:15 PM
Les Miles to Michigan.

Hugh Freeze to LSU.

Tommy Tuberville to Ole Miss.


Since we are throwing spaghetti against the wall.

Les Miles to Meatchicken.

Nick Saban to LSU.

Tommy Tuberville to Arkansas.

Jenifer Lawrence to me.   
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 18, 2014, 04:16:43 PM

Jenifer Lawrence to me.

Mrs Dallas has her beat in the chesticles department. Plus your wife showers and doesn't smoke pounds of weed so she's ahead there too.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 18, 2014, 04:17:46 PM
Rhodes?


Where we are going we don't need Rhodes!

Great Scott! This is getting heavy.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 18, 2014, 04:20:18 PM

Since we are throwing spaghetti against the wall.

Les Miles to Meatchicken.

Nick Saban to LSU.

Tommy Tuberville to Arkansas.

Jenifer Lawrence to me.
The throwing the spaghetti comment is unwarranted. We have sources or legitimate reasons here. You can't just run off at the mouth willy-nilly around this place, ya know. Well, you can but you shouldn't.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 18, 2014, 04:37:59 PM
Chizik back to Iowa State?

What did Iowa State ever do to you?
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Godfather on November 18, 2014, 04:47:48 PM
What did Iowa State ever do to you?
Gave us Gene Chizik
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 18, 2014, 04:50:58 PM
Gave us Gene Chizik

Okay...the hussel is acknowledged
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: dallaswareagle on November 18, 2014, 05:12:27 PM
Mrs Dallas has her beat in the chesticles department. Plus your wife showers and doesn't smoke pounds of weed so she's ahead there too.


True, but she has Mrs. Dallas beat in the checking account dept.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: GH2001 on November 19, 2014, 09:18:44 AM

I don't look at it like a demotion, you are going from somewhere you really can't win (and he hasn't) to the power conference. He comes and changes (let's say AU) our defense, makes us top ten again and that opens up new doors for him later on. Waiting on another HC gig after leaving ISU gives him few options. (IMO)

This is very true. Getting canned at ISU as head coach and going to a top notch school as DC is a very decent move and puts him back on track for a smaller HC gig later if he does well. No one is going to be lining up to hire Rhodes for anything other than a DC position right now.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Prowler on November 20, 2014, 01:44:26 AM
Btw, Coach Rocker is no Defensive Coordinator...there's a reason why he hasn't been a DC anywhere he's been, minus Auburn High School (iirc). He's good with one group, he'll have those players running through brick walls for him, but to have control over the entire Defense? No. He would be in over his head. Just because he's a hell of a position coach does not mean he'd be a hell of a coordinator...same goes for coordinators and being a HCs.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Prowler on November 20, 2014, 01:52:51 AM
For a DC I think that would be a damn good hire.  You know where I stand on Tuberville and that I am not his biggest fan.  Never have been.  But he is a great defensive mind and was real high on Paul Rhoads.  Tired to hire him before he hired Muschamp.  Despite what happened at the end of the 08 season, Rhoads had us ranked #2 in total defense until the wheels feel off and we still managed to stay a top 20 D under him.
Fuck yeah. Let's get him. Paul Rhoads is very, very similar to Muschamp intense as a mutha fucka and makes you bring your hard hat and lunch pale to work everyday.

Rhoads
Muschamp
Either one of those will be fine.

Quick question, how's DC Brian Van Gorder doing at Notre Dame? I always thought he was being handcuffed by Coach Chizik.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: jmar on November 20, 2014, 04:40:33 AM
Yeah I wasn't aware Rock didn't project well as a coordinator. More of a fan favorite I suppose.

Speaking of which...as a fan I know I have thrown Joe Whitt Jr.'s name out several times. He is thought of highly as a secondary coach with the Dick Labeau led Steeler defense but that too might not translate to a coordinator post in either level or even as a college position coach.

We seem to have the front seven issues addressed as far as numbers go and brought in 5 or 6 DBs but the coverage problems still exists. Maybe E.J. needs to open a cornerback academy or up the pay scale. :big:
 

 
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: AUJarhead on November 20, 2014, 08:09:42 AM
Quick question, how's DC Brian Van Gorder doing at Notre Dame? I always thought he was being handcuffed by Coach Chizik.

The ND alums I work with love him.  But I think they are middle of the pack statistically.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 20, 2014, 08:57:45 AM
Lots of assumptions here that EJ is out as DC. I'm not so sure. There simply isn't enough evidence of how Gus operates as HC to know if he'll start making cuts to the staff or if he'll simply stay the course. I'm afraid some of you are getting your hopes up for nothing.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: GH2001 on November 20, 2014, 09:05:53 AM
Lots of assumptions here that EJ is out as DC. I'm not so sure. There simply isn't enough evidence of how Gus operates as HC to know if he'll start making cuts to the staff or if he'll simply stay the course. I'm afraid some of you are getting your hopes up for nothing.

As much as I hate what you just wrote, you may be right. Gus seems to be standing by his man so far. Although I do think EJ is only ONE of the issues we have.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: War Eagle!!! on November 20, 2014, 09:06:05 AM
Lots of assumptions here that EJ is out as DC. I'm not so sure. There simply isn't enough evidence of how Gus operates as HC to know if he'll start making cuts to the staff or if he'll simply stay the course. I'm afraid some of you are getting your hopes up for nothing.

Yep
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 20, 2014, 09:41:44 AM
I vote Coach Pornstache.  He had Jake running into a brick wall.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 20, 2014, 09:58:11 AM
Bovada IV Odds on Next UF Coach

Jim McElwain- Colorado State- 5/1

Mike Gundy - Oklahoma State - 5/1

Bob Stoops - Oklahoma - 11/2

Dan Mullen - Mississippi State - 11/2

Mike Shanahan - Former Denver Broncos, Washington Redskins, Oakland Raiders HC- 15/2

Rich Rodriguez - Arizona -17/2

Steve Spurrier - South Carolina -9/1

Hugh Freeze - Mississippi -10/1

Gary Patterson - TCU -14/1

Gus Malzahn - Auburn -14/1

Jim Tressel - Former Ohio State, Youngstown State HC -15/1

Greg Schiano - Former Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Rutgers HC -20/1
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 20, 2014, 10:00:36 AM
No matter if EJ goes or stays, the discussion around here is much more civil since Chizad offed himself after the Georgia loss.

People can say what they will about Internet bullying but sometimes it works for the greater good. And no one has taken time to thank me.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 20, 2014, 10:04:31 AM
I find it interesting that Vegas has Spurrier at 9/1 odds. What are his odds of retiring 5/1?

Should also be noted that in addition to the $6 mil Florida will pay Muschamp to not be there, some of those on the list there have serious buyout money. Gus's could get up around $20-$22 and even McElwain's at CSU is $7.5 mil.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 20, 2014, 10:07:16 AM
I can't see McElwain energizing the UF fan base because.....no...wait.  That's right. He's a Lord Saybinz disciple.  I can hear Vern and Gary now.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 20, 2014, 10:13:46 AM
I can't see McElwain energizing the UF fan base because.....no...wait.  That's right. He's a Lord Saybinz disciple.  I can hear Vern and Gary now.

His buyout is $7.5 mil at Colorado State. (Those weed sales subsidies must be better than projected.) And, no, I doubt that will jazz the Gators.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 20, 2014, 10:15:24 AM
Lots of assumptions here that EJ is out as DC. I'm not so sure. There simply isn't enough evidence of how Gus operates as HC to know if he'll start making cuts to the staff or if he'll simply stay the course. I'm afraid some of you are getting your hopes up for nothing.
Yeah, very premature conjecture. Gus is showing love and Johnson's buyout should make for a pause. Idiotic for him to have a big buyout in his contract, coming off a complete flop as a HC. But we have made a bunch of shittay contracts over the last few years.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 20, 2014, 10:16:29 AM
Yeah, very premature conjecture. Gus is showing love and Johnson's buyout should make for a pause. Idiotic for him to have a big buyout in his contract, coming off a complete flop as a HC. But we have made a bunch of shittay contracts over the last few years.

What is EJ's buyout? I didn't know it was substantial.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: WiregrassTiger on November 20, 2014, 10:20:44 AM
What is EJ's buyout? I didn't know it was substantial.
i don't remember but I think we would have to pay him thru 2017. Prob not substantial to Jacobs but damn when you are paying about 5 or six coaches to not coach? I don't know how many it is but it's a pile. And it's ridiculous. It adds up.

Someone prob knows for sure and can correct this if wrong but I believe that Dye and Chiz are still on the payroll. I don't know who else.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Snaggletiger on November 20, 2014, 10:24:05 AM
i don't remember but I think we would have to pay him thru 2017. Prob not substantial to Jacobs but damn when you are paying about 5 or six coaches to not coach? I don't know how many it is but it's a pile. And it's ridiculous. It adds up.

Someone prob knows for sure and can correct this if wrong but I believe that Dye and Chiz are still on the payroll. I don't know who else.

Doug Barfield and The Estate of Shug Jordan
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 20, 2014, 10:32:25 AM
Chiz got his last payment.

Dye will be on it for eternity. Are we still paying Barbee and Lebo?
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Godfather on November 20, 2014, 10:32:51 AM
Someone prob knows for sure and can correct this if wrong but I believe that Dye and Chiz are still on the payroll. I don't know who else.
Cam Newton
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: GH2001 on November 20, 2014, 10:52:06 AM
I find it interesting that Vegas has Spurrier at 9/1 odds. What are his odds of retiring 5/1?

Should also be noted that in addition to the $6 mil Florida will pay Muschamp to not be there, some of those on the list there have serious buyout money. Gus's could get up around $20-$22 and even McElwain's at CSU is $7.5 mil.

Who the fuck would pay 8 mill just to get the rights to McElwain and then pay him 3-4 mill a year? Sheesh.

Fla should be shooting big here. Stoops, Gundy, Patterson, Shannahan and make them all say no.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: jmar on November 20, 2014, 11:00:10 AM
Per Rivals Auburn Sports:
EJ was hired as a free agent on 12/5/12 to be paid a base of $800,000 thru 6/30/16.

Agree with others that he is likely retained by Gus and no he isn't THE problem. I actually think he's good when he has all of the parts he requires incl. Lawson.
And that's my gripe. He HAS to have them ALL.
-the secondary can't function without a velociraptor bearing down on the QB.

Understand the collective operating as a unit but the pass coverage sucks independent of everything else.
 
Honestly, I can't think of many DC's we have had that I didn't like at least for a year or two until the same old problem became evident. And if there's one thing an opposing OC can hang his hat on it's that Auburn can't defend the pass. 
 

 





Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Six on November 20, 2014, 11:07:33 AM
Who the fuck would pay 8 mill just to get the rights to McElwain and then pay him 3-4 mill a year? Sheesh.

Fla should be shooting big here. Stoops, Gundy, Patterson, Shannahan and make them all say no.

Gundy makes a ton of sense to me for them.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Kaos on November 20, 2014, 11:09:21 AM
Who the fuck would pay 8 mill just to get the rights to McElwain and then pay him 3-4 mill a year? Sheesh.

Fla should be shooting big here. Stoops, Gundy, Patterson, Shannahan and make them all say no.

And copy rival FSU?  I don't think so. 
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: GH2001 on November 20, 2014, 11:10:00 AM
Gundy makes a ton of sense to me for them.

Harbaugh too. But if Meatchicken wants him, its gonna be hard for anyone to get him. Thats home to him. And Big Blue is still a destination job. With big pockets.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: Godfather on November 20, 2014, 11:11:47 AM
And copy rival FSU?  I don't think so.

Don't worry everyone Kaos's account was hacked.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: jmar on November 20, 2014, 11:20:37 AM
Looking at Sixe's list I would probably have to pick Schiano just from those choices as the likeliest hire.

Hugh Freeze might turn up missing if he shows any interest.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: AUTiger1 on November 20, 2014, 02:04:43 PM
The ND alums I work with love him.  But I think they are middle of the pack statistically.

67th in total D.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: jmar on November 20, 2014, 02:35:50 PM
67th in total D.
We are short one mathmatician here but yeah that's nearly 1/2 of 128 FBS schools.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/gametracker/recap/NCAAF_20141101_ND@NAVY (http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/gametracker/recap/NCAAF_20141101_ND@NAVY)

And here's one example.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: wesfau2 on November 23, 2014, 09:20:25 AM
Dabo as head gaytor.  Just a feeling.  Could be gas.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: djsimp on November 23, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
Dabo as head gaytor.  Just a feeling.  Could be gas.

Both would smell about the same. Actually, I think I could stomach the gas better.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: The Prowler on December 28, 2014, 07:08:41 AM
Let's hire him a our new DC.
 #winning
Yes, let's do exactly that. Good call Bottomfeeder.
Title: Re: Muschamp Finished at Florida
Post by: CCTAU on December 28, 2014, 11:06:08 PM
Florida let Muschamp go?

Damn. Where have I been!