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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: The Prowler on September 28, 2014, 02:45:17 AM
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Compared to the 2009 team, the 2010 SEC & National Champion, 2011 team & the 2013 SEC Champion & National Champion runner-up?
2009 (45.25 ppg/allowed 24.25 ppg):
LaTech W 37-13
Mississippi State W 49-24
West Virgina W 41-30
Ball State W 54-30
2010 (32.75 ppg/allowed 22.75 ppg):
Arkansas State W 52-26
@ Mississippi State W 17-14
Clemson W 27-24 OT
South Carolina W 35-27
2011 (34.25 ppg/allowed 31 ppg):
Utah State W 42-38
Mississippi State W 41-34
@ Clemson L 24-38
Florida Atlantic W 30-14
2013 (28.5 ppg/allowing 22 ppg):
Washington State W 31-24
Arkansas State W 38-9
Mississippi State W 24-20
@ Louisiana State L 35-21
2014 (42.25 ppg/allowing 16.25 ppg):
Arkansas W 45-21
San Jose State W 59-13
@ Kansas State W 20-14
Louisiana Tech W 45-17
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Compared to the 2013 SEC Champion & National Champion runner-up?
2013 (28.5 ppg/allowing 22 ppg):
Washington State W 31-24
Arkansas State W 38-9
Mississippi State W 24-20
@ Louisiana State L 35-21
2014 (42.25 ppg/allowing 16.25 ppg):
Arkansas W 45-21
San Jose State W 59-13
@ Kansas State W 20-14
Louisiana Tech W 45-17
My gripe spoiled or not as you well know is that we aren't firing together up front and we are blocking poorly overall on the perimeter and it serves to make us look very average as a running team.. The rainbow for us is that we can still get it right. When we do so, Grant and Louis will break those outside runs which will in turn help with the read option, the passing, the PACE, help the defense EVERYTHING...is tied to advancing the football on the ground. WHEN WE DO THIS WE ARE UNSTOPPABLE!
Amen.
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My gripe spoiled or not as you well know is that we aren't firing together up front and we are blocking poorly overall on the perimeter and it serves to make us look very average as a running team.. The rainbow for us is that we can still get it right. When we do so, Grant and Louis will break those outside runs which will in turn help with the read option, the passing, the PACE, help the defense EVERYTHING...is tied to advancing the football on the ground. WHEN WE DO THIS WE ARE UNSTOPPABLE!
Amen.
The key is NM. I rewatched every AU play in slow motion. NM was terrible reading the option until the last part of first half. That is when he decided to run the ball when he was supposed to. This opened the game up. Made a huge difference. But he still is not running like he did last season. He is a bit reserved and looks like Onterrio headed to the sideline. Then it hit me, he is playing not to get hurt. Not sure if this is by design or not, but it affects the offense in a huge way.
Fulse is really not a good blocker right now. But I remember thinking at this time last year that Prosch was missing his blocks on the smaller DBS also. Hopefully he gets it. Watched Uzomah, not much better.
NM needs to keep in mind his relief valve. Several times wit was wide open and NM forced it deep.
Over all he finally did well, but my concern is that if we take too long to get it right, it might not turn out well against SEC foes.
LaTech used the DB on the slot to spy NM all night long. We never exposed it with. Short hitch behind him after the RB fake.
I imagine NM will finally turn it loose this week. If not, we will struggle.
Like I said, NM is the key. If he makes good decisions, we roll. If not, well...
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NM needs to keep in mind his relief valve. Several times wit was wide open and NM forced it deep.
This is the only thing that really bothered me and everything else flowed from it.
Every team we play is going to try to force us to throw to beat them. Ok. Why are we throwing it up for grabs so many times?
Marshall drops back, glances around (or scrambles) and heaves the ball as far as he can throw it. We were lucky to grab some of those yesterday, but those kind of passes into double coverage (sometimes) are iffy.
Is it some kind of crazy miracle that the moment Johnson enters the game, D.Williams is running free over the middle? Or the dig route is there? Or the comeback? Are those routes there when Marshall is dropping back and he's just ignoring them to throw the rainbow?
I'd really like to know, but don't want to try to break down film or anything that time consuming.
I'd like to see Johnson get more of a chance to show what he can do I guess. But if he comes in to pass and Marshall is in to run, we become ridiculously predictable.
When you can't consistently move the chains throwing the ball, there's no reason for defenses to give any significant effort to stopping it so the running lanes get clogged. I don't think the O_Line is playing all that well -- injuries is a big part of that -- but Payne isn't Mason yet either. He reminds me of Mario Fannin without the stone hands. Mason made three yards out of the holes Payne is getting one or less. That's just the way it was.
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This is the only thing that really bothered me and everything else flowed from it.
Every team we play is going to try to force us to throw to beat them. Ok. Why are we throwing it up for grabs so many times?
Marshall drops back, glances around (or scrambles) and heaves the ball as far as he can throw it. We were lucky to grab some of those yesterday, but those kind of passes into double coverage (sometimes) are iffy.
Is it some kind of crazy miracle that the moment Johnson enters the game, D.Williams is running free over the middle? Or the dig route is there? Or the comeback? Are those routes there when Marshall is dropping back and he's just ignoring them to throw the rainbow?
I'd really like to know, but don't want to try to break down film or anything that time consuming.
I'd like to see Johnson get more of a chance to show what he can do I guess. But if he comes in to pass and Marshall is in to run, we become ridiculously predictable.
When you can't consistently move the chains throwing the ball, there's no reason for defenses to give any significant effort to stopping it so the running lanes get clogged. I don't think the O_Line is playing all that well -- injuries is a big part of that -- but Payne isn't Mason yet either. He reminds me of Mario Fannin without the stone hands. Mason made three yards out of the holes Payne is getting one or less. That's just the way it was.
I've been wondering where our medium passing game is on third downs.
3rd & 4? BOMB into double coverage
3rd & 5? BOMB into double coverage
3rd & 6? BOMB into double coverage
3rd & 7? BOMB into double coverage
3rd & 8? BOMB into double coverage
etc.
Then the coaches say that "we aren't converting on third downs enough to keep drives going"...well, tell Marshall to stop throwing Hail Marys on every third down, because I'm sure there's atleast two more receivers running routes, unless we're doing some dumbass pass play were only one receiver runs the "Go to the endzone and wave your arms around" route.
Then Johnson comes in and it's like where the fuck have all these receivers been, because he's flinging it all over the damn place...there's receivers everywhere. Hell I thought Uzomah was injured or something and he was just a decoy, until Johnson hit him in the corner of the endzone while a DE was dangling off him.
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The issue with QB controversy is that as always, we don't know half the story. Johnson's looked great when he's been in, but how much of the playbook does he know? How many reps has he gotten with the starters?
How many games has he won? How many times has he played against a championship caliber team and won? Has he ever played a down in another team's stadium?
How would the other players feel if Marshall was benched after rushing for 70 yards a game while throwing six touchdowns and only 1 interception?
I agree that it's a bad predicament to have. At the beginning of the year, it was a great one. Two incredible quarterbacks. Now, it looks like Marshall has regressed, but there's just no way to smoothly transition to a new quarterback when the guy that took you to the BCSCG is still healthy.
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Something else to look at when comparing to the two seasons:
After four games this year, Auburn is averaging 47 carries a game, 5.46 yards a carry, 260 yards a game, with a total of 10 touchdowns.
Last year through four games, Auburn averaged 46 carries a game, 5.05 yards a carry, 232 yards a game and a total of 8 touchdowns.
We're technically better at this point than we were last season in terms of running the ball. I think if Marshall wasn't so careless with his deep throws, we probably wouldn't be all that worried.
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I've been wondering where our medium passing game is on third downs.
3rd & 4? BOMB into double coverage
3rd & 5? BOMB into double coverage
3rd & 6? BOMB into double coverage
3rd & 7? BOMB into double coverage
3rd & 8? BOMB into double coverage
etc.
Then the coaches say that "we aren't converting on third downs enough to keep drives going"...well, tell Marshall to stop throwing Hail Marys on every third down, because I'm sure there's atleast two more receivers running routes, unless we're doing some dumbass pass play were only one receiver runs the "Go to the endzone and wave your arms around" route.
Then Johnson comes in and it's like where the fuck have all these receivers been, because he's flinging it all over the damn place...there's receivers everywhere. Hell I thought Uzomah was injured or something and he was just a decoy, until Johnson hit him in the corner of the endzone while a DE was dangling off him.
Been evident since the first two plays of the Spring Game that they wanted to go deep down the sidelines this year come hell or high water. Baffling, this is.
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Here's another interesting comparison since we're not too happy about the 3rd and BOMBS:
Last season through four games: 40% conversion rate on 3rd down. 24/60.
This season through four games: 58% conversion rate on 3rd down. 35/60.
So on the exact same number of attempts to convert a 3rd down, we're better.
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Another!
In 2013, through four games, we had a turnover difference of -2. (6 turnovers caused and recovered, 8 turnovers given and lost).
In 2014, through four games, we have a turnover difference of +2. (8 turnovers caused and recovered, 6 turnovers given and lost.)
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2013's starting to look like a shit football team compared to this one.
Through four games last season: 6 sacks.
Through four games this season: 9 sacks.
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Here we go again:
2013, four games, total offense: 1758 yards. 6.06 yards per play.
2014, four games, total offense: 1920 yards. 6.64 yards per play.
The takeaway from this is that we need to cool off on the QB controversy, the questioning of this team's ability to win the SEC, and the state of woe that most Auburn sites seem to be going through. If we really think Malzahn is the genius that he seems to be, then he will most likely improve this team going forward. His offense has been a top 5, awe-inspiring, dominating force of destruction at every stop he's been at outside of 2011 when many would say that he was hindered by a poor head coach.
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Stop it with your stats, mister. We are in serious trouble here.
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Here we go again:
2013, four games, total offense: 1758 yards. 6.06 yards per play.
2014, four games, total offense: 1920 yards. 6.64 yards per play.
The takeaway from this is that we need to cool off on the QB controversy, the questioning of this team's ability to win the SEC, and the state of woe that most Auburn sites seem to be going through. If we really think Malzahn is the genius that he seems to be, then he will most likely improve this team going forward. His offense has been a top 5, awe-inspiring, dominating force of destruction at every stop he's been at outside of 2011 when many would say that he was hindered by a poor head coach.
Your comparisons prove how spoiled we've become...and rather quickly.
I'd have drowned a whole litter of kittens to have had these "concerns" in 2012.
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I'd have drowned a whole litter of kittens to have had these "concerns" in 2012.
I'm willing to do this without the payoff.
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Here we go again:
2013, four games, total offense: 1758 yards. 6.06 yards per play.
2014, four games, total offense: 1920 yards. 6.64 yards per play.
The takeaway from this is that we need to cool off on the QB controversy, the questioning of this team's ability to win the SEC, and the state of woe that most Auburn sites seem to be going through. If we really think Malzahn is the genius that he seems to be, then he will most likely improve this team going forward. His offense has been a top 5, awe-inspiring, dominating force of destruction at every stop he's been at outside of 2011 when many would say that he was hindered by a poor head coach.
Good stuff. I am cutting and pasting it all together to then steal and post all over Al Gore's interwebs.
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Good stuff. I am cutting and pasting it all together to then steal and post all over Al Gore's interwebs.
Here...
Four games into the season here we are in comparison to last year…
After four games this year, Auburn is averaging 47 carries a game, 5.46 yards a carry, 260 yards a game, with a total of 10 touchdowns.
Last year through four games, Auburn averaged 46 carries a game, 5.05 yards a carry, 232 yards a game and a total of 8 touchdowns.
Last season through four games: 40% conversion rate on 3rd down. 24/60.
This season through four games: 58% conversion rate on 3rd down. 35/60.
In 2013, through four games, we had a turnover difference of -2. (6 turnovers caused and recovered, 8 turnovers given and lost).
In 2014, through four games, we have a turnover difference of +2. (8 turnovers caused and recovered, 6 turnovers given and lost.)
Through four games last season: 6 sacks.
Through four games this season: 9 sacks.
2013, four games, total offense: 1758 yards. 6.06 yards per play.
2014, four games, total offense: 1920 yards. 6.64 yards per play.
Make sure you bitches give me credit for what I have stolen fair and square.
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We SHOULD be better off this season by now. NM only had a month of practice last year. This time he has had a whole off-season. That is why folks are a bit uneasy. And there is no QB controversy. The fact is that JJ needs to get a couple of series in a game, and not at the end.
NM has not progressed like we thought he would. But he is still good. To win it all again, he needs to be polished and smart. He needs to make better reads, in the option and the pass. Last season at this time we had not seen fully the chemistry between NM and Tre. So maybe it is about to kick in with one of the other guys. Like I said, after watching the game again, the times the RB had to bounce out were the times that NM made an awful read and sent the RB up in the middle of nothing while the outside was wide open for him. As soon as he started making better reads, we immediately started dominating.
As far the passes, I'm not sure he can see the middle of the field well. Or is comfortable throwing the ball there. How many ball were batted down by K-State? it seemed like every other one. So maybe his confidence is shot on those passes.
But like I said, it starts and ends with his decisions. On the bombs he threw, at least 2 of those had wide open RBs out to the side with open field. Hit those two and we convert 3rd down.
As for JJ, his first two handoffs should have been keepers. But by then we had worn them out and CAP did his thing. The one JJ did keep, Roc was upfield 7 yards before he was touched.
So no one is saying bring in JJ and sit NM. Just change it up some every now and then.
BTW, the ain't nothing wrong with CAP. Give him the ball with a small hole and he will make yards. Send him up in the middle of nothing, and he too will dance. But Grant is the same way. It is all about the read.
And just because you can sit down and show me numbers that are better at this point than last season, well, that doesn't mean we are where we should be after having an off season to hone this thing.
LSU will be the test. If NM plays balls to the wall, we win this thing going away. If he continues to play with uncertainty, we might fall to the hat. I don't see allowing LSU to hang around like K-State and us winning.
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Make sure you bitches give me credit for what I have stolen fair and square.
Done
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"Bitches, let not your weary little brains be troubled, merely because we are winning in a different manner than that of which you have become accustomed. Is it not still winning?"--W.T. Sept. 29, 2014
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Here we go again:
2013, four games, total offense: 1758 yards. 6.06 yards per play.
2014, four games, total offense: 1920 yards. 6.64 yards per play.
The takeaway from this is that we need to cool off on the QB controversy, the questioning of this team's ability to win the SEC, and the state of woe that most Auburn sites seem to be going through. If we really think Malzahn is the genius that he seems to be, then he will most likely improve this team going forward. His offense has been a top 5, awe-inspiring, dominating force of destruction at every stop he's been at outside of 2011 when many would say that he was hindered by a poor head coach.
There is no controversy so far as I'm concerned. That doesn't mean I have to wave a shaker and yell "Hey!" when there are things that seem concerning to me.
Much was made of Marshall's improvement as a passer in the offseason and how amazing it was going to be to have a quarterback working his second year under the same system. Those expectations set us up to see something that I don't think many of us feel like we're seeing. Marshall doesn't seem to be greatly improved as a passer and he's not breaking people's dicks in half running the ball like he seemed to do the second half of last season.
Spoiled? Maybe so. But it's more a matter of what we were led to expect than it is anything else me think.
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There is no controversy so far as I'm concerned. That doesn't mean I have to wave a shaker and yell "Hey!" when there are things that seem concerning to me.
Much was made of Marshall's improvement as a passer in the offseason and how amazing it was going to be to have a quarterback working his second year under the same system. Those expectations set us up to see something that I don't think many of us feel like we're seeing. Marshall doesn't seem to be greatly improved as a passer and he's not breaking people's richards in half running the ball like he seemed to do the second half of last season.
Spoiled? Maybe so. But it's more a matter of what we were led to expect than it is anything else me think.
I think there were a lot of unrealistic expectations, for sure. And Nick isn't passing like I thought he would, based on what I perceived a very much improved passer at A day. But, I still think that he's better. I don't think he's as far off (like out of the zip code) this season. He has more touch.
What has concerned me more is our 1st down performance with the zone read. I don't know why but it isn't working like last year. Yet, when winning convincingly, it's hard to complain. I feel like adjustments will be made when they need to be made. Which is likely this Sat.
Maybe more passes on 1st and second down. When is the last time that happened?
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I think Nick just needs to get back to the basics of smoking opposing defenses. He seemed blazing fast last season, while he was lighting up the rest of the SEC.
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I think Nick just needs to get back to the basics of smoking opposing defenses. He seemed blazing fast last season, while he was lighting up the rest of the SEC.
Maybe your expectations are too high, to be blunt.
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Maybe your expectations are too high, to be blunt.
Here we go again with this puffery.
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Here we go again with this puffery.
Well you knew it would be in the bag.
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Well you knew it would be in the bag.
Speaking of, he's not reading the dime and nickel packages like he did before he had that trouble with the law.
But, to cut through all the smoke......I haven't read everyone's comments fully so sorry (Not really) if this has been covered. I think we have every right to be concerned about this offense. For a variety of reasons, it wasn't in synch or back street boys in either of the last two games. Yeah, we won 45-17 but two of those scores were off a punt return and the interception run back inside the 5. Two of the TD passes should have never been thrown. Both into double coverage and one of them essentially a hell merry.
The concern for me is not that we're not really blowing people away as is kind of the expectation after the way we finished the season last year. It's that the offense is far from the well oiled machine we've been looking for and from this point on it's: LSU...MSU...A&M...Sakerlina...Ole Miss...Jawja...Turds.
Don't know if that's the order but you get the picture. The huge positive so far is our D is playing at a level that if our offense gets its collective shift together, we can run the table. If they play anything close to the last two games, this thing could get ugly quick. Every SEC team we face from here on out has more overall talent than anyone we've faced so far.
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Then Johnson comes in and it's like where the fuck have all these receivers been, because he's flinging it all over the damn place...there's receivers everywhere. Hell I thought Uzomah was injured or something and he was just a decoy, until Johnson hit him in the corner of the endzone while a DE was dangling off him.
Which BTW was friggin AUMAZING, La. Tech or not!!!
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Couple of my .03 cents.
I think we have a tendency to forget that regardless of how many folks we returned we still lost some crucial players that contributed to our huge success from last season. Prosch & Robinson obviously, but lets not forget that we also lost Kozan for the year. This is a new offensive line and sometimes it takes time to gel together.
I'm certainly not making excuses, because from my perspective we seem to have regressed on offense from the Arkansas game. Which I don't like to see. I do however have faith in our coaching staff, probably more so than any coaching staff this side of Dye, to get things worked out. LSU will be going down this Saturday book it!
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Good stuff. I am cutting and pasting it all together to then steal and post all over Al Gore's interwebs.
Ditto.
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Make sure you bitches give me credit for what I have stolen fair and square.
You forgot:
2013 (28.5 ppg/allowing 22 ppg):
Washington State W 31-24
Arkansas State W 38-9
Mississippi State W 24-20
@ Louisiana State L 35-21
2014 (42.25 ppg/allowing 16.25 ppg):
Arkansas W 45-21
San Jose State W 59-13
@ Kansas State W 20-14
Louisiana Tech W 45-17
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NM was terrible reading the option until the last part of first half.
He still is not running like he did last season. He is a bit reserved and looks like Onterrio headed to the sideline.
NM needs to keep in mind his relief valve. Several times wit was wide open and NM forced it deep.
Like I said, NM is the key. If he makes good decisions, we roll. If not, well...
THESE POINTS ^^^ all of em.
And yes the stats look good and better than last year but we also haven't played one team that is our equal. Our talent is winning us those games. The eye test just isn't right in the last 3 games.
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And yes the stats look good and better than last year but we also haven't played one team that is our equal. Our talent is winning us those games. The eye test just isn't right in the last 3 games.
Kansas State > Washington State
San Jose State = Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech < Mississippi State
Arkansas = LSU
Yeah, we had played two SEC teams, but I actually think the first four games of each schedule were not that far apart.
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Kansas State > Washington State
San Jose State = Arkansas State
Louisiana Tech < Mississippi State
Arkansas = LSU
Yeah, we had played two SEC teams, but I actually think the first four games of each schedule were not that far apart.
2014 (42.25 ppg/allowing 16.25 ppg):
Arkansas W 45-21
Louisiana Tech W 45-17
Not doubting that at all.
But this year a lot of our points seem to be coming from opportunities and the other side's mistakes, not just pure dominance and execution. Plus the D is playing better this year creating a lot of those opportunities. I just have to think this is going to catch up with us at some point against a high quality team if NM doesn't get the thing rolling with precision.
Like I said, its just an eye test thing.
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Like I said, re-watch the first half. When NM starts making the correct read and running the ball, we look unbeatable. The drive that ended with the most beautiful pass NM has ever thrown, had NM running the ball three times. And all three were correct reads.
Teams will be selling out to make NM beat them. Either with his feet or his arm. Last season they were scared of him. this season they see a chink in the armor.
And we have three, count them, three of the best WRs in the country and we cannot seem to get them the ball!
Duke in the 10-15 yd dig is money. If we can get him the ball. It may be that NM just cannot see over the line? I don't know.
But you can take your comparisons from this time last season and dispose of them. We were winning in a totally different fashion last year. The eye test does not usually lie. You have to rely on what you are normally capable of. Any kind of special teams score is a bonus and cannot be part of your expectations each week. Same with interceptions and turnovers. Take those away and what does the score look like so far? Yes, those are part of the game, but they cannot be a measuring stick as to where you are developmentally.
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When nick hands the ball off and runs unopposed around the end while the RB gets stuffed at the line--does this mean that he made an incorrect read? I don't think that it necessarily does, every time.
I don't know if he's reading the DE or LB and I assume it changes but whatever the deal is, it's hard for me to believe that he is worse at running it this year.
I'm deferring to Gus but as some others have mentioned, I'm thinking that we miss Prosch and Robinson a lot.
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When nick hands the ball off and runs unopposed around the end while the RB gets stuffed at the line--does this mean that he made an incorrect read? I don't think that it necessarily does, every time.
I don't know if he's reading the DE or LB and I assume it changes but whatever the deal is, it's hard for me to believe that he is worse at running it this year.
I'm deferring to Gus but as some others have mentioned, I'm thinking that we miss Prosch and Robinson a lot.
If the read man steps in toward the play, you pull and run because there a good chance he will not get you. For every step he takes toward the handoff, he takes himself out of the play almost 2 steps. If he sits back, you have the option to pull and run. You have to determine can you outrun the guy. K-State had a big slow white boy just sit there and that was enough to make NM hand the ball off. Last season, he would have pulled and outrun the guy.
By making the wrong read, I was watching the the read side of the defense and whether or not they crashed. If they crash, NM should run the ball.
Sometimes if they crash, that means they are filling in for the guy inside who is slanting to stop the inside run.
Either way, when the read side of the defense gives you the outside, you take it. If you don't. odds are the RB will get stuffed.
I was also very upset with the offensive coaches not seeing that the slot CB was also spying the QB. that could have been exploited very easily with a pull and quick hit to the slot as soon as the CB broke.
The option offense is a game of chess and right now, there are a lot fo DCs out there learning how to counteract our offense. I'm hoping Malzahn kicks it in high right about now.
I'm sure DCs have watched the last two games and are going to use some of the same tactics that have been used to slow us down so far.
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If the read man steps in toward the play, you pull and run because there a good chance he will not get you. For every step he takes toward the handoff, he takes himself out of the play almost 2 steps. If he sits back, you have the option to pull and run. You have to determine can you outrun the guy. K-State had a big slow white boy just sit there and that was enough to make NM hand the ball off. Last season, he would have pulled and outrun the guy.
By making the wrong read, I was watching the the read side of the defense and whether or not they crashed. If they crash, NM should run the ball.
Sometimes if they crash, that means they are filling in for the guy inside who is slanting to stop the inside run.
Either way, when the read side of the defense gives you the outside, you take it. If you don't. odds are the RB will get stuffed.
I was also very upset with the offensive coaches not seeing that the slot CB was also spying the QB. that could have been exploited very easily with a pull and quick hit to the slot as soon as the CB broke.
The option offense is a game of chess and right now, there are a lot fo DCs out there learning how to counteract our offense. I'm hoping Malzahn kicks it in high right about now.
I'm sure DCs have watched the last two games and are going to use some of the same tactics that have been used to slow us down so far.
I am hoping that the calls that were made were actual run calls. I am hoping that Gus told Nick to just hand the ball off. I am hoping that we are not showing anything because Gus knew that we could beat the first 4 teams on talent alone.
It seems like, especially during the K-State game, that NM made so many errors reading the defense. Either that is a scheme thing or a player thing. I would have to eliminate the "player" thing because I don't think Nick just forgot how to make the reads. It has to be a "scheme" thing.
With that said, is it a scheme that Gus is using or that the defense is using. I have a hard time believing that after torching UGA, ALabama, and also FSU all at the end of the year last year, that K-State came up with something that Gus hasn't thought about. So that leads me to believe that this is an Auburn scheme change...and that Auburn is running more straight hand offs and less read options right now.
LSU will be the big test. If Auburn gets less than 150 yards rushing against LSU, it is going to be tough to win the SEC this year.
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The glaring difference I see is the fast pace. Our pace doesn't seem to be anything close to what we were running last year.
Also I would like to ask where 2012's stats are?
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Also I would like to ask where 2012's stats are?
Only the number of loses number was large enough to not need an electron microscope to see.
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The glaring difference I see is the fast pace. Our pace doesn't seem to be anything close to what we were running last year.
Also I would like to ask where 2012's stats are?
ANother reason why I think this is by design...
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Also I would like to ask where 2012's stats are?
The offense was run at such a fast pace that year that it would be unfair to even bring those numbers in.
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The offense was run at such a fast pace that year that it would be unfair to even bring those numbers in.
Those 3 and out numbers are hard to match.
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ANother reason why I think this is by design...
Same question was poised to the group, except I called it sandbagging.
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Same question was poised to the group, except I called it sandbagging.
You sandbagging son of a bitch. They built for speed or comfort?
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You sandbagging son of a bitch. They built for speed or comfort?
Is she still in the house?
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If we get shit on first down, we fast. If not, we slow.
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LSU will be the big test. If Auburn gets less than 150 yards rushing against LSU, it is going to be tough to win the SEC this year.
Unless we still don't need 150 yards rushing to win.
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It 's not just Nick damnit!
It's pace to a degree but we aren't getting free on the edges with Grant and Louis as last season.
We aren't blocking well at the meshpoint to spring Nick as with last season. Only needs a step and a half.
Sure we see some poor reads but there have been defenders in place as soon as he pulls it away.
When Nick does get loose I assure you only a handful of other QBs can do what he does in heavy traffic.
There is little if any threat of a pass when a defense sees him move down the line at the point of attack...
And that's when defenses are waiting now instead of biting on the motion or pulling guard in the opposite direction.
It does hurt not having Robinson because he bulldozed defenders.
Prosch is missed too but there are NO holes big enough to drive a truck through as with last season.
Over a third of the time Prosch wouldn't even be near contact from a defender.
Don't you recall those two lane highways that were opened for Mason and others? Enormous run lanes!
Why is that?
We aren't plowing defenders up front to create those holes. It's not CAP.
Offensive Line Coach J.B. Grimes is not working with the same hungry bunch this season.
That's the only difference I see beyond the missed blocks on the perimeter.
The result is sloppy play, poor execution and that definitely affects pace.
*Don't care for platooning QBs but wouldn't mind seeing JJ come in to spell or run some scripted plays while NM gets a breather. I do think the dynamic of the offense changes with JJ though I wouldn't expect to see him for long periods unless it became necessary.
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I am hoping that the calls that were made were actual run calls. I am hoping that Gus told Nick to just hand the ball off. I am hoping that we are not showing anything because Gus knew that we could beat the first 4 teams on talent alone.
It seems like, especially during the K-State game, that NM made so many errors reading the defense. Either that is a scheme thing or a player thing. I would have to eliminate the "player" thing because I don't think Nick just forgot how to make the reads. It has to be a "scheme" thing.
With that said, is it a scheme that Gus is using or that the defense is using. I have a hard time believing that after torching UGA, ALabama, and also FSU all at the end of the year last year, that K-State came up with something that Gus hasn't thought about. So that leads me to believe that this is an Auburn scheme change...and that Auburn is running more straight hand offs and less read options right now.
LSU will be the big test. If Auburn gets less than 150 yards rushing against LSU, it is going to be tough to win the SEC this year.
I hope you are correct. And this is the one theory that is keeping me in check right now from going all out worry. If it were not Gus, I wouldnt think this.
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Trust in Gus...just sayin.
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Trust in Gus...just sayin.
No need to be coy, Roy
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No need to be coy, Roy
Just drop off the key, Lee
And get yourself free