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We need an emoticon for media splooging.
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People all over the world, join hands. Join the Lane Train. The Lane Train.
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*snicker*
Is Lane Kiffin making a case to succeed Nick Saban at Alabama someday?
By Kevin Scarbinsky
How much of an impact has Lane Kiffin had on Alabama four games into his coaching rehabilitation assignment as offensive coordinator?
You could do the math.
Second-best passing day by a Crimson Tide quarterback.
Most total yards by anyone against a Florida defense.
Most total yards after four games by an Alabama offense.
All in the history of ever, which in Alabama's case includes Hall of Fame passer Joe Namath and the juggernaut wishbone era.
But there may be an even better way to address what Kiffin has accomplished with the Alabama offense and quarterback Blake Sims during the Crimson Tide’s 4-0 start -- by asking a question:
One week shy of one year since USC fired him as head coach at LAX in a nightmarish conclusion to his dream job, is Kiffin starting to make a case to one day succeed Nick Saban?
It’s possible to ask that question without snark or sarcasm, without having everyone in earshot question your sanity. It’s possible to ask it because hot coordinators are always viewed as head coaching candidates, and at the moment, Kiffin could be considered the hottest coordinator in college football.
Hotter even than Kirby Smart, the long-presumed heir to Saban’s throne in Tuscaloosa.
Smart is still elite at his job, but his rep has lost a bit of luster for several reasons. He didn’t jump through the head coaching window of opportunity after Alabama’s dominant defensive seasons of 2009 and 2011, and the longer you stay, the more you risk getting labeled a next-generation Mickey Andrews. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but in some cases, the longer you’re second-in-command, the less you’re viewed as presidential material.
It’s also Smart’s misfortune to be a defensive coordinator as college football has become more and more of an offensive game for the Xbox generation.
“The fast pace of play and the way college football is right now definitely favors the offense,†Saban said Monday before his speech at Birmingham’s Monday Morning Quarterback Club. “That’s why we see the points that we see.â€
This may be the most important point in Kiffin’s favor. The time-honored tradition that offense sells tickets while defense wins championships has been invalidated. Now offense can sell tickets and win titles, which is a win-win deal for any AD in search of a new coach.
Gus Malzahn’s Auburn team became the first in SEC history to lead the country in rushing as it won the 2013 conference title. Jimbo Fisher’s Florida State team set a major college record for points in a season en route to the last BCS championship, outscoring Auburn in a last-team-with-ball-wins shootout.
Give Saban credit for bending to the way the game is trending by stockpiling playmakers and hiring Kiffin to deploy them in new, exciting and record-setting ways.
Saban’s not retiring to the lake anytime soon, and Kiffin has yet to help beat Ole Miss or Mississippi State, let alone Auburn, so this entire discussion is premature food for thought. But think big picture. It’s reasonable to project that the longer Kiffin stays at Alabama, the more success he’ll enjoy, the more his past mistakes as a head coach will recede and the more interest he’ll receive to run another major college program.
One day, that interest may even come from the program that employs him now.
Sound crazy? One month into his tenure as the starter, one game into the SEC schedule, Sims has outdone Namath, Jay Barker and AJ McCarron in the Alabama record book. So crazier things have happened in Tuscaloosa than AD Ozzie Newsome stepping to the podium on Jan. 15, 2020, and introducing the next head coach of the Crimson Tide ... Lane Kiffin.
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Is Lane Kiffin making a case to succeed Nick Saban at Alabama someday?
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SPLOOOOOOOOOOOGE
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Sigh.
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My prediction? LANE!
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Kicked off another radio show yesterday.
Fifteen minutes of the hosts blowing Cooper, sucking Cro Mag's dick, licking Saban's ass, dry humping Kiffin and so on and I had enough.
All I said was "if you guys will take your hands out of Bama's pockets for ten seconds, there's another team in the state that's already beaten two teams that would skull drag every team on Alabama's schedule so far... "
And they booted me. Not allowed on the air.
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Come on now...they're world beaters.
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I think Florida was badly overrated coming into the season. Not that anyone had them in the top 10 but tons of people in the media thought they would be significantly better. Myself included. But, I didn't look for much out of them against Bama after watching UF and Kentucky and thinking to myself how crazy it is that UK has better overall talent than Go Gaytah. They just do.
Now having said that, while the obligatory media splooge was inevitable, you have to say the Tahd handled business about as well as you can, dysfunctional Gaytah squad or not. I just find it funny how all you heard last week was that Sims was completely one dimensional and they'll be in trouble when they face a good defense. One game later, I even heard one "expert" say yesterday that Sims is easily the best QB in the conference and probably the nation.
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Come on now...they're world beaters.
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snap
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Kicked off another radio show yesterday.
Fifteen minutes of the hosts blowing Cooper, sucking Cro Mag's richard, licking Saban's ass, dry humping Kiffin and so on and I had enough.
All I said was "if you guys will take your hands out of Bama's pockets for ten seconds, there's another team in the state that's already beaten two teams that would skull drag every team on Alabama's schedule so far... "
And they booted me. Not allowed on the air.
I thought that I heard you on Rush Limbaugh yesterday.
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Floridy isn't very good. But, they had Mrs. Cooper's boy covered pretty well a lot of the time and Sims to Cooper still worked. That and Sims'ses mobility ability is what has me eating the crow.
I do not believe they would have the same success against AU but I certainly hope that we have Mr. Lawson back by then.
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Soooo, the mo bammer splooge the mo better when AU comes out of Tuskalooser with a win.
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Now having said that, while the obligatory media splooge was inevitable, you have to say the Tahd handled business about as well as you can, dysfunctional Gaytah squad or not. I just find it funny how all you heard last week was that Sims was completely one dimensional and they'll be in trouble when they face a good defense. One game later, I even heard one "expert" say yesterday that Sims is easily the best QB in the conference and probably the nation.
No doubt that the tahd has looked better than I thought they would. However, they haven't played anyone worth a shit...seriously, they have played some bad teams.
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from coacheshotseat.com
I thought this pretty much summed up the gatahs and Muschamp.
2. Will Muschamp, Florida –One of the main reasons we wanted to travel to Tuscaloosa, Alabama this weekend was to see the Florida defense in person was because there is only so much one can see when watching football on TV and what we saw in person at Bryant-Denny Stadium of the Florida defense should scare the Hell out of anyone that has an interest in the Gators winning a lot of games in 2014 and anyone interested in Will Muschamp’s immediate coaching future!
After giving up 20 points to Kentucky (in regulation) in the Gators first real football game of the season in Gainesville a good buddy of ours that played football at Florida in the 1960s told us over the phone….
“Even average offenses will shred this Florida defense because there are opposing wide receivers running wide-open on almost every play that even I could hit with a ball they are so wide-open!â€
What?
“Wide receivers running wide-open on almost every play against a Will Muschamp coached defense?â€
We had to see that for ourselves and what we saw against Alabama was exactly that because on almost EVERY Alabama offensive play there were….
1, sometimes 2, often 3 wide-receivers running WIDE-OPEN!
….and if Alabama had wanted to they could have beaten the Gators by 70 points EASY by just throwing the ball to open Bama wide-receivers that were shockingly left to run free in what looked like some kind of NUTSO zone defense that Muschamp was playing as if Muschamp was trying to hide the Gators’ weaknesses on defense.
What?
This is Will Muschamp’s FOURTH season at Florida and he still doesn’t have enough talent to play the Alabama wide-receivers man-to-man in a direct and challenging way on EVERY Damn play with only some safety help?
FOURTH Freaking Season at Florida for Will Muschamp!
Oh by the way…
Steve Spurrier WON 10 Games and WON the SEC Title in his SECOND season at Florida
Urban Meyer WON 13 Games and WON the SEC and National Titles in his SECOND season at Florida
AND
…in Will Muschamp’s FOURTH season at Florida it was only his former head coach in Nick Saban taking it easy on the Gators that kept the Florida – Alabama game on Saturday to within three touchdowns?
Hell, the Coaches Hot Seat Flag-Football Team with the quarterback it now has in the shotgun could have put up 50 points easy with wide-receivers running Wide-Freaking-Open all over the field with them hardly ever being challenged at all in a direct and meaningful way by Gator defenders!
Hell, the opposing quarterback could just throw the ball up 40 yards down the field on the Florida defense and there is a better than 50 – 50 chance that there will be one or more Wide-Freaking-Open wide-receivers there to catch the ball!
What do we think is wrong with the Florida defense then?
The TRUTH: There is precious little talent on the Florida defense in Will Muschamp’s FOURTH season at Florida and we will let you take that in for a moment because that is a Helluva statement for us to make because the TRUTH is there is…
Precious Little Talent on the Florida defense in Will Muschamp’s FOURTH season at Florida!
OK…whether if there is “Florida-like†talent on this Gators team or not this is now all about the WINS for Will Muschamp going forward and thus here is Florida’s remaining schedule:
At Tennessee
LSU
Missouri
Georgia in Jacksonville
At Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Eastern Kentucky
At Florida State
Well, both LSU and Missouri basically didn’t bother showing-up to play for their head coaches on Saturday in losses to Mississippi State and Indiana respectfully so who knows what those teams will be like when they show-up in Gainesville BUT they will both be better than Kentucky….right?
How many games CAN Florida win the rest of 2014?
Well, Florida COULD win all their remaining games…technically.
How many games WILL Florida win the rest of 2014?
Well, if that piss-poor and very Damn average Florida team that played against Alabama shows-up the rest of the season we would be STUNNED if the Gators won more than….
7 Games in 2014.
We have been told by someone we trust very close to the Florida football program that anything less than 8 wins AND a win over Georgia and the Will Muschamp-era at Florida will come to an end come December which raises the inevitable question:
What coach name will Florida AD Jeremy Foley yell out loud to himself while in bed to replace Will Muschamp at Florida come December?
Our recommendation to Jeremy Foley: After the hirings of Ron Zook and Will Muschamp who have posted to date a combined win/loss record at FLORIDA of…..
47 – 31 (.603)
….we would recommend you yell that coach’s name into a pillow so that you and no one else hears it and then move on to hiring a head coach at Florida that has actually….
WON as a head coach at another school FIRST!
Like Steve Spurrier and Urban Meyer did before they took over the Mighty Florida Football Program!
This is still FLORIDA FOOTBALL we are talking about……right?
RIGHT!
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Come on now...they're world beaters.
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I agree
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In all fairness, I think Scarbinsky wrote that article just so he could sit back and laugh at all of the retards.
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No doubt that the tahd has looked better than I thought they would. However, they haven't played anyone worth a shoot...seriously, they have played some bad teams.
We still won't know very much about Bama 2 weeks from now.
Things that I think we already know about us are that we have a pretty decent rush defense, we can run better than average and we've got a damn good receiver to throw to. We have more than one good ones but one that is exceptional.
Hopefully, playing a tougher schedule up front will pay dividends later in the season for us. We've been pretty fortunate concerning injury but we don't need any other players going squirrely and getting kicked off the team.
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Kicked off another radio show yesterday.
Fifteen minutes of the hosts blowing Cooper, sucking Cro Mag's dick, licking Saban's ass, dry humping Kiffin and so on and I had enough.
All I said was "if you guys will take your hands out of Bama's pockets for ten seconds, there's another team in the state that's already beaten two teams that would skull drag every team on Alabama's schedule so far... "
And they booted me. Not allowed on the air.
I want to hear more about this.
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I want to hear more about this.
yes.
what show?
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I want to hear more about this.
Found a clip:
http://youtu.be/wtfCRaNg5EU (http://youtu.be/wtfCRaNg5EU)
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*snicker*
that's some funny shit right there, if only they would entertain the idea. We would have ten fingers during and after his tenure. I guarantee.
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yes.
what show?
It was whatever was on WNSP at the time. Afternoon show. My call got "dropped" accidentally.
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It was whatever was on WNSP at the time. Afternoon show. My call got "dropped" accidentally.
Did you actually get on air or did they screen you out?
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Did you actually get on air or did they screen you out?
Never made it.
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Never made it.
Try wearing a disguise next time.
That might do the trick.
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they had Mrs. Cooper's boy covered pretty well a lot of the time
lolwut?
You doing the Stevie/Ray blind thing?
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lolwut?
You doing the Stevie/Ray blind thing?
o.k., at least one time. mofo
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lolwut?
You doing the Stevie/Ray blind thing?
I too, was not sure if serious.
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So we are to think Lane Kiffin is the new genius of the SEC.
That's what the media is indicating we should do.
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So we are to think Lane Kiffin is the new genius of the SEC.
That's what the media is indicating we should do.
Did you not see what his offense did to one of the best defenses and defensive minds in college football last weekend? It's not always just hype, you know.
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Did you not see what his offense did to one of the best defenses and defensive minds in college football last weekend? It's not always just hype, you know.
How do you explain John Chavous' D getting shredded by Mr. Prescott and Co. then Mr. Football of the X ?...hmmm? hmmm?
I threw in an extra hmmm for good measure.
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Did you not see what his offense did to one of the best defenses and defensive minds in college football last weekend? It's not always just hype, you know.
UAT's O is good, but calling Kiffin a great coordinator is pushing it. That offense lacks no identity.
The play calling consisted of inside runs that got bounced outside because the line sucks and throw the ball to Cooper.
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How do you explain John Chavous' D getting shredded by Mr. Prescott and Co. then Mr. Football of the X ?...hmmm? hmmm?
I threw in an extra hmmm for good measure.
I was being a little facetious. Gator d is nothing like the "experts" predicted and I believe Muscamp has been overrated as a d cor for most of his career, mainly because of his intensity.
I do think Kiffin makes Bama less predictable though.
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I was being a little facetious. Gator d is nothing like the "experts" predicted and I believe Muscamp has been overrated as a d cor for most of his career, mainly because of his intensity.
I do think Kiffin makes Bama less predictable though.
That's right! Dude can dial it up with the best of 'em.
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Color me unimpressed until the gumps beat a team that had a record better than 4-8 last year.
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Color me unimpressed until the gumps beat a team that had a record better than 4-8 last year.
Hey, pal, the mighty Florida Atlantic Owls finished the 2013 season at a robust 6-6.
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Hey, pal, the mighty Florida Atlantic Owls finished the 2013 season at a robust 6-6.
Hoot Hoot
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*snicker*
Gregg Doyle, American Hero, shits on Scar-bomb.
http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24723044/lane-kiffin-bama-genius-saban-aint-buying-it-and-neither-am-i (http://www.cbssports.com/general/writer/gregg-doyel/24723044/lane-kiffin-bama-genius-saban-aint-buying-it-and-neither-am-i)
Lane Kiffin, Bama genius? Saban ain't buying it, and neither am I
September 24, 2014 11:49 am ET
Where does Lane Kiffin fit in terms of Alabama's success? Nick Saban has that answer. (USATSI)
Where does Lane Kiffin fit in terms of Alabama's success? Nick Saban has that answer. (USATSI)
It's unbelievable, you know that? Lane Kiffin's luck, good fortune. That intersection where right place meets right time? That's the corner of Lane and Kiffin. The guy's so lucky, he could drive his car, get lost, look down at his phone for directions and run into the back of the car ahead of him -- as it was trying to get away from a bank robbery.
Lane Kiffin, hero.
That's some fiction for another day. The fiction for today?
Lane Kiffin, genius.
Every bit as laughable as the thwarted bank robbery example, only this one is really happening. Four games into his time as Alabama's offensive coordinator, Lane Kiffin is being seriously mentioned as the eventual replacement for Nick Saban.
Lane Kiffin, Alabama head coach.
Spit-out-your-coffee funny, that. But it's being proposed by the most influential sports writer in Alabama, a guy whose brain is really smart and whose work is really good, and now Lane Kiffin's greatness has been brought to the attention of Nick Saban himself.
Luckily for my sanity, Saban pulled a Saban and refused to play along. He was asked Tuesday if he'd given Kiffin "more latitude to open things up." The question continued, something about putting the ball into the hands of Alabama's playmakers, but Saban was already shaking his head and saying "no" and "not at all." Because Lane Kiffin isn't the genius behind Alabama's offense.
http://youtu.be/UWCQD_1BcFQ (http://youtu.be/UWCQD_1BcFQ)
The genius behind Alabama's offense? All those wonderful offensive players. And also Nick Saban, who recruited those guys and helped coach those guys and hired for those guys a top-flight staff of assistant coaches. Nick Saban is why Alabama is wonderful on offense. Blake Sims is why. Amari Cooper. Derrick Henry. T.J. Yeldon.
Alabama's third-best running back is Kenyan Drake, who was the top recruit in Georgia as a high school senior. State champion in the 100-meter dash. Ran for 694 yards last season as a sophomore. Averaged 7.5 yards per carry. This season he leads the team with four rushing touchdowns in four games, on only 22 carries. He has caught four passes out of the backfield. Scored on two. One went 87 yards.
Alabama's third-best running back.
Lane Kiffin, genius? Please. I mean it. Please stop this madness right now. Do what Nick Saban did Tuesday and refuse to go along. Saban spoke for almost five minutes on Lane Kiffin and gave him exactly two compliments. Now listen, he did give those compliments. I'm not saying Saban doesn't respect Kiffin. That would be stupid.
Saban could have hired pretty much anybody to be his offensive coordinator this season, and he picked Kiffin. Why? Because Kiffin's a pretty good offensive coordinator, I guess, though who really knows? He has been an OC at two schools, USC and Alabama. We've been over the talent Alabama has. Who did USC have when Kiffin was in that job (some of which he shared with an assistant named Steve Sarkisian, who's not so bad himself)? Two Heisman winners, Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush. LenDale White. John David Booty the next year. Future pros at receiver, tight end and offensive line.
Lane Kiffin, genius? Possibly in one regard: He has a genius for selling himself. The guy spun me like a top a few years ago when I went to Los Angeles to talk to him, now at USC, and ask him what in the world was wrong with him at Tennessee. Kiffin was so good that day, so humble and charming and seemingly mortified by his actions at Tennessee, that I bought it. Wrote this story about the new Lane Kiffin.
And then he proceeded to be same ol' Lane, lying about his No. 1 vote and doing weird things to footballs and jerseys -- took me only four months to write a whole other story on Kiffin -- and ultimately losing like USC should never lose before being fired midseason last year because everyone in Los Angeles was just so sick of the guy.
Back to Saban. He was asked Tuesday about Kiffin, and about Alabama's wide-open offense -- it has gained more yards after four games than any Alabama team ever has -- and Saban refused to give Kiffin all the credit. Hell, Saban wanted some for himself. Don't blame him either. Here's what he said, after he stopped shaking his head and saying "no" and "not at all."
"I've been begging the offensive coordinators around here to open it up ever since I've been here," Saban said. "Jimbo Fisher was the best offensive coordinator I ever had that did what I wanted to do -- and everybody [after him] wants to run the ball."
Saban allowed for the sensibleness of that strategy, noting Alabama has had great offensive lines and running backs and usually has the lead, leaving it unsaid that it worked -- Alabama won three national titles from 2009-12 -- while concluding that "it was smart to play the way we played."
But then Saban got back to the real secret behind his offense: the skill players. He eventually noted that "Lane does a really, really good job of taking advantage of what players can do," but then spent more time on this offense's negatives -- inconsistent line play, silly penalties -- before reminding everyone that Kiffin is just doing what Saban always wanted to do.
"My philosophy hasn't changed at all," Saban said. "I've always asked for this. 'You know, why don't we throw the ball on this look -- instead of running this play where we can't block everybody?' Which is what we do now."
But the offense everyone seems so crazy about? Still needs work, Saban said.
"In my opinion we have not arrived as an offense," Saban said. "[Kiffin] would be the first to tell you that, and I'd tell you that too. All right? So you know, I've already said, a lot of the things we did in the last game will get you beat. You turn the ball over four times and get nine penalties on offense, you're not going to win many games."
Not true. With Alabama's talent and Alabama's head coach, it's going to win a lot of games regardless of what happens on offense. And regardless of who the offensive coordinator is. Alabama beat Florida by 21 points on Saturday, and while the Gators hung around for a while, it wasn't anywhere near that competitive.
After his five minutes on Kiffin were up Tuesday, Saban had spent more time complimenting himself for hiring Kiffin than complimenting Kiffin. Saban was asked about how he gets along with Kiffin, whom he is often seen giving the stink-eye on the sideline. Saban was defensive at first, and I mean really defensive, before concluding like so:
"I thought it was a good hire," he said. "Nobody else did. I got beat up like a drum over doing it, and now all of a sudden it's great. You guys don't have any consequences for what you say and do. Our stuff ends up out here on the field on Saturday and if it isn't done right, there's consequences, in front of a lot of millions.
"It's a different kind of scorecard than you all got to live with."
So true. Sports writers do something stupid, and nobody notices. Sort of like the way Lane Kiffin has skated through life. He has been a head coach of three teams, all of them sensational football traditions -- Raiders, Tennessee, USC -- and was a disaster at all three. He has been an offensive coordinator at two places, arguably the two biggest football factories in college football (Alabama, USC), working under future Hall of Fame head coaches and working with an overload of future NFL talent.
Lane Kiffin, senator's son.
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Kiffin strikes me the same as Chizik and Muschamp; pretty good coordinators, not worth a shit as a head coach. All three have proven this. Suggesting that Kiffin could be Saban's successor at Alabama is laughable (or should be, anyway). I'm pretty happy with him as an OC at this point.
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Kiffin strikes me the same as Chizik and Muschamp; pretty good coordinators, not worth a shit as a head coach. All three have proven this. Suggesting that Kiffin could be Saban's successor at Alabama is laughable (or should be, anyway). I'm pretty happy with him as an OC at this point.
And you may be right.
Although I don't think Boom was even great at that. He was overrated. There is also the fact that Kiffin was extremely young when becoming a HC and immature. Its possible to learn and grow up. Who knows. The childish antics and immature personality wouldnt last long under Lord Sabynz anyway. I know I don't think anyone thought Simms would do this well. Objectively speaking without my O&B glasses on, Bama is better at this point in the season than I thought they would be.
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One thing that no one can deny about Kiffin is that he has almost single handedly guaranteed another National title and at least one Heisman winner for Bama this year. No one can take that away.