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The Library => Haley Center Basement => Topic started by: Kaos on August 28, 2014, 08:34:00 AM
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Ice bucket has gone too far.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cgWN3PDUoxE
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This is the best way I have seen this put about the bucket challenge stuff.
https://www.facebook.com/TheRealMikeRowe/posts/848769095133235:0 (https://www.facebook.com/TheRealMikeRowe/posts/848769095133235:0)
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"Hey Mike!! Charlie Willis challenges you to do the ALS Anal Fingering Challenge! He did it & donated so come on!!!" Posted by Mary Willis
"We’re waiting, Mr. Rowe. You’ve been challenged over and over. What’s the hold up??â€
Posted by Maxine Allen
"I've challenged you twice now. Since you have not responded by video, I certainly hope you've already donated." Posted by Pia Yoacham
"DUDE. ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THE CHALLENGE OR NOT!!!!!" Posted by Charlie Baker
"It's my understanding the person challenged has 24 hours to respond. Wonder why the coyness? But, maybe the coyness is the answer...and the answer is No?†Posted by Wanda Manning
Hi All,
Since yesterday was apparently National Dog Day, (seriously?) and since my second-to-the-last post triggered a variety of observations around my apparent failure to “rise to challenge,†as it were, I’m weighing in with another image of young Freddy, who like his master, has decided to forego The ALS/Anal Fingering Challenge.
I mean no disrespect to the 500 or so individuals who have publicly challenged me to participate. And God knows, I’m in near constant need of a cold shower. But as a guy who has represented some rather large, profitable companies while running a non-profit foundation, I’ve got some opinions on the subject of persuasion, especially as it applies to fundraising. And I’ve been struggling with how to share those thoughts in a way that will not make me look like a douche-bag.
First of all, I tip my hat to the marketing genius that conceived of this device. Thanks to The Anal Fingering Challenge, The ALS Association has collected $75 million dollars in donations. That’s up from just $1.9 million over all of last year, for a 3,650% increase. That’s amazing, and totally unprecedented. And if we lived in a world of unlimited philanthropic resources, it would be fantastic news. But we don’t live in that world. We live in a world where generous people of finite means must allocate their charitable giving with discretion - in the same way they allocate all other expenditures. In this world, more money for ALS means less money for Heart Disease. More for Malaria means less for Diabetes. More for AIDS means less for Alzheimer’s. And so forth.
It’s not exactly a zero sum game, but the cannibalism factor in charitable giving is a very serious problem. According to the experts, 50% to 70% of all the money collected as a result of the Anal Fingering Challenge will directly impact future contributions to other charities in an equal and opposite way. In other words, if The ALS Association collects a $100 million - as it’s on track to do - other charities competing for the same dollars will collect between $50 and $70 million LESS. Thus, the largest donations do not necessarily go to those charities that serve the most people or do the best research - they go to those that who market themselves in the most effective way.
This informs the way I give, and the way I solicit. It’s one thing to sell cars or trucks or jeans or paper towels. God knows, I've been there, and I'm comfortable with the consequences of pushing one brand at the expense of another. But in the non-profit world, the stakes are bit higher. I’m reluctant to participate in a challenge that’s raising so much money for a small association, especially when it impacts other research that will eventually save the lives of millions. That's the cold and shitty calculus of charitable giving.
Of course - I understand those who see it differently. If my Dad or my brother was among the 6,000 diagnosed with ALS every year, I’d be standing under a shower of freezing water, waving my checkbook in the air and challenging the world to get on board. I remember when my Mom was diagnosed with breast cancer - I would have done anything to fix it. In fact, took off my pants and challenged the world to donate the cost of their favorite pair of jeans to help find a cure. I get it.
But here’s the thing - if you decide to give charitably, it’s important to understand everything you can about the way your money is going to be spent. That’s not happening here. The spectacular success of the Anal Fingering Challenge is not the result of a conscious, collective commitment to rise up against a terrible scourge; it’s the result of a marketing campaign. Consequently, a foundation accustomed to working for decades on a million dollars or so in annual donations, will now have to manage a $75 million jackpot. That worries me, as it should anyone who has ever studied the fate of lottery winners. That’s not their fault, but it doesn’t change the situation, and I’m not inclined to challenge more people to send more money to coffers that are already overflowing.
Some of you will remember a recent post about my friend, Jill Brown. Jill is a stuntwoman who got a brain tumor and lived to tell the tale. http://www.refinery29.com/2014/01/60263/brain-tumor-story (http://www.refinery29.com/2014/01/60263/brain-tumor-story) Last year, she asked me to sponsor her in a walk to raise money for brain tumor research. She didn’t like asking, and I don’t blame her. Asking people for money is never fun. Even for a good cause. But Jill was very grateful for a second chance at life, and determined to support those suffering from the same condition that she overcame. So she personally called everyone she knew and explained why she walking, how the money that she raised would be used, and why the research was so important. Consequently, she raised a tidy sum for a great cause that was near and dear to her.
Point is, Jill did several difficult things. She vowed to walk, at a time when walking wasn’t so easy. She committed her time, her energy, and her passion to a cause that mattered deeply to her. And most importantly, she made the whole thing personal. That made me want to help her. Not just because she's my friend - but because she was helping herself.
The Anal Fingering Challenge is different. Here, people I’ve never met give me 24 hours to either write a check to a charity I’m not familiar with, or dump a bucket of cold water over my head. Tell me honestly - if that precise challenge arrived to you privately, via the US Mail, what would you do with it? You’d throw it in the trash, right? But a public challenge is not so easy to ignore. Online, everyone is watching. Your friends. Your co-workers. Your clients. Maybe even your boss.
When it comes to asking people for help, I don’t like to put them in an awkward position. So the only challenge I’m issuing today is to Freddy. If he can refrain from peeing on the floor, I’ll send a check to the local shelter. Beyond that, I'm staying dry.
Again - to anyone who’s been affected directly or indirectly by ALS, my heart goes out to you. And to those who challenged me personally, I know your heart’s in the right place. So I’m going to reserve the right to dump various substances over my head at a future date for whatever reason I deem appropriate, and encourage you all to ignore the gimmicks, get informed about the charities you wish to support, and contribute generously to whatever cause resonates with you.
Mike
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The only thing missing was his voice reading the response.
He takes his time and giving seriously and sees this for what it is. Good for ALS. Use the money wisely. But many folks already give. I sometimes have to tell people coming around looking for money that I already give. I know they think BS, but who cares. My giving is personal to me. And I see where Mike is coming form .
That doesn't mean ALS is not personal and that I did not or will not give. It just means it is my business. I get it.
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It's been out of control. It's become all about me, look at me, watch me as I dump water on my or my kids heads.
I was called out. I didn't do it, I donated money but to another charity that I have a knowledge of and effects people I care about. No offense to those on here that might have done it.
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I donated money but to another charity that I have a knowledge of and effects people I care about.
IBS?
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Tell me more about this anal fingering challenge.
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IBS?
AID's
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Instead of ALS foundation, give here.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kevin-Turner-Foundation/170505166303971?fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kevin-Turner-Foundation/170505166303971?fref=nf)
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Instead of ALS foundation, give here.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kevin-Turner-Foundation/170505166303971?fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kevin-Turner-Foundation/170505166303971?fref=nf)
I usually donate here, great cause.
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Worthy causes for sure. If you guys are able, there is a fund that I'm starting in preparation for the Sec and national championship games. All of the money raised will go toward expenses incurred on tickets, hotel accommodation and tickets.
Thank you.
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It's been out of control. It's become all about me, look at me, watch me as I dump water on my or my kids heads.
I was called out. I didn't do it, I donated money but to another charity that I have a knowledge of and effects people I care about. No offense to those on here that might have done it.
Werd!
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Worthy causes for sure. If you guys are able, there is a fund that I'm starting in preparation for the Sec and national championship games. All of the money raised will go toward expenses incurred on tickets, hotel accommodation and tickets.
Thank you.
No help from this group. :facepalm:
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No help from this group. :facepalm:
This decision has been in your lap for a while now. And ive yet to see any boobie pics. Just sayin
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I appreciate the un-named member of this board who just hooked me up with Arky tix. Thank you.
And there was no need in your thanking me for all that I do here to support the x. Your kind words that you sent with the tickets are appreciated. And I insist on paying you. Really.
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It's been out of control. It's become all about me, look at me, watch me as I dump water on my or my kids heads.
I was called out. I didn't do it, I donated money but to another charity that I have a knowledge of and effects people I care about. No offense to those on here that might have done it.
Same. I usually give to three or four charities a year that are personal in nature. ALS is one that I donate to and just started last year. I read this story http://hopeannsblog.blogspot.com/2013/04/for-those-of-you-who-follow-us-on.html (http://hopeannsblog.blogspot.com/2013/04/for-those-of-you-who-follow-us-on.html) and then read the thread that CCTAU started about Kevin Turner and decided last year that I would add ALS to the list. Since I have already donated and have been called out, I will donate to another charity and tell the person that called me out what I did instead of donating to ALS again.
I don't really hate on the ICB and see the good in the money it has raised, but hate the attention whoring going on and the fact that not once have I seen anyone post a link to where you can donate or literature about what ALS is and does. I have seen people in my news feed ask what ALS truly was other than knowing it was "Lou Gehrig's Disease". They probably didn't have a clue about what it is and it would be nice if people would include that...you know, to raise "awareness" instead of just raising money. I would venture that more than half the people that have done this still don't know any more about ALS than they did before the ICB became the cool thing to do.
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My biggest issue is the very one Mike Rowe raised: 6000 people a year are diagnosed with ALS. How many more get cancer? Parkinson's? Alzheimer's? All this funding for a horrible disease that affects, in the grand scheme of things, so few people, will definitely take funds away from research on diseases that affect millions of people. I know, I might feel differently if a family member had ALS, but when one looks objectively at the situation, you have to come out on the side of the greater good.
Charitable giving should be a personal choice, left to the individual, and not something you are bullied into doing by some B-list celebrity dying to attention whore themselves in the name of charity.
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Too bad, I just nominated you all.
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My biggest issue is the very one Mike Rowe raised: 6000 people a year are diagnosed with ALS. How many more get cancer? Parkinson's? Alzheimer's? All this funding for a horrible disease that affects, in the grand scheme of things, so few people, will definitely take funds away from research on diseases that affect millions of people. I know, I might feel differently if a family member had ALS, but when one looks objectively at the situation, you have to come out on the side of the greater good.
Charitable giving should be a personal choice, left to the individual, and not something you are bullied into doing by some B-list celebrity dying to attention whore themselves in the name of charity.
I have seen my mother pass from cancer, no fun. But I am getting to the point of how much money are these originations wasting. For what, 20 plus years every labor day The Jerry Lewis telethon raise 20 million a year, and they no closer to curing MS than they are to my baldness.
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My biggest issue is the very one Mike Rowe raised: 6000 people a year are diagnosed with ALS. How many more get cancer? Parkinson's? Alzheimer's? All this funding for a horrible disease that affects, in the grand scheme of things, so few people, will definitely take funds away from research on diseases that affect millions of people. I know, I might feel differently if a family member had ALS, but when one looks objectively at the situation, you have to come out on the side of the greater good.
Charitable giving should be a personal choice, left to the individual, and not something you are bullied into doing by some B-list celebrity dying to attention whore themselves in the name of charity.
The Love....I has it for you.
Well put.
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There will be no curing of anything, no MONEY in cures. Just sayin.
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There will be no curing of anything, no MONEY in cures. Just sayin.
This guy knows.
MOST big charities are there to (1) Make money and exist to exist (2) Deal with symptoms not root causes/cures. Notice how they like to say they are "always getting closer and closer to ending illness ____"?
Want to help with hunger? Go find a homeless guy and take him to KFC and fill his face. Hell, even ask him if he wants to work and help him find a job. Want to put clothes on the homeless? Go to Valley Rescue (or a similar LOCAL ground roots type org) or go find some homeless people and give them clothes directly.
Ive done this personally and its a shit ton more gratifiying than blindly throwing money at some big corporate marketing machine of a "charity". Mike Rowe is spot on. Want to give? Fine. But don't call me out with an ultimatum for not doing it your way.
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HOUSTON -- Some say a grandfather took the ice bucket challenge way too far when he poured freezing cold water on his 10-month-old baby.
"I was shocked," said the girl's father, Claude Dalcour. "Everybody I know was pretty much shocked and appalled.
Dalcour said he's going through a nasty divorce with the girl's mother. Things got even nastier when he saw his ex father-in-law's Facebook post.
"You don't do that to an infant," said Dalcour. "He should know better."
The video has gone viral and thousands of people have seen it on Facebook.
One concerned stranger from out of state even sent a link to the Texas Department of Children and Families. The agency wouldn't confirm whether it is actually investigating the case and taking action.
Dalcour said he's gone to police about the incident.
"It's a big deal," he said. "It's not his child, it's my child."
Despite the father's anger, the grandfather hasn't been charged with any crime. We reached out to him via Facebook, but he did not respond.
link to article and video...
Non-Corporate Folks in Houston (http://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2014/08/28/ice-challenge-angers-babys-father/14777363/)
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http://youtu.be/7-HgHomgNKA (http://youtu.be/7-HgHomgNKA)