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Title: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: Jumbo on June 04, 2014, 01:31:59 PM
ESPN gives Auburn 3 percent chance of reaching College Football Playoff http://t.co/vkUH9WX6C3 (http://t.co/vkUH9WX6C3)
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: Townhallsavoy on June 04, 2014, 01:47:39 PM
NO ONE can stop Auburn's offense.  Not even Nick Saban.  It's going to dominate everyone they play.

Four losses. 
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: AUChizad on June 04, 2014, 01:58:22 PM
NO ONE can stop Auburn's offense.  Not even Nick Saban.  It's going to dominate everyone they play.

Four losses.
Anyone an insider? I'd love to see the logic that takes him from point A to point B.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfudgeer
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 04, 2014, 02:01:40 PM
Anyone an insider? I'd love to see the logic that takes him from point A to point B.
I'm an insider. But I don't discuss specifics of Auburn's strategy with pee-ons.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfudgeer
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 04, 2014, 02:12:21 PM
I'm an insider. But I don't discuss specifics of Auburn's strategy with pee-ons.

Stop being an butthole.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: Townhallsavoy on June 04, 2014, 02:37:51 PM
Anyone an insider? I'd love to see the logic that takes him from point A to point B.

From al.com's article:

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"The offense will dominate," according to the analytical piece, "but luck might finally run out for SEC champs."

Rod Gilmore uses analyst Brian Fremeau's projections in his piece, which breaks down the Tigers' offense and why the defense could be a problem as they try to repeat their success from a year ago against a tougher road schedule.

So we were only lucky, our defense cannot improve, and we have a tougher road schedule.

The road schedule has validity.  The other two are fanboys hee-hawing over warm beer outside their trailer. 
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfudgeer
Post by: dallaswareagle on June 04, 2014, 02:39:31 PM
I'm an insider. But I don't discuss specifics of Auburn's strategy with pee-ons.

Stop being an butthole.



No, go with your strengths.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 04, 2014, 02:55:14 PM
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Rod Gilmore

All I needed to read
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfudgeer
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 04, 2014, 02:59:13 PM
All I needed to read
For 20 bucks I'll call him a chicken fucker.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfudgeer
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 04, 2014, 03:03:08 PM
For 20 bucks I'll call him a chicken fucker.

Hurry up meow
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 04, 2014, 03:12:58 PM
Gilmore is a racist tool.  Screw him.  I didn't read it. 

I don't worry about predictions.  I just know that when you're in the SEC West, if you handle yo bidnezz, you will make the playoffs.  Having said that, Auburn does have one hell of a task in front of them.  The schedule is as brutal as we've had since 83'.  And that's saying something.  3 top 10 teams, 2 of which are on the road.  Plus, according to Athlon, #18 Ole Miss on the road, #19 LSU and #20 KSU on the road. 

The D has to get a good bit better than #86 in the country with that schedule.  And, we have to stay injury free, which is what we did last year for the most part.  Not being Debbie Downer (Waa Waaaaaa) because I think this team has a chance to be incredibly good and win the West.  But if I'm one of the "experts" in the business of analyzing teams and making predictions, I don't put us in with the schedule we play. 
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: AUChizad on June 04, 2014, 03:22:10 PM
From al.com's article:

So we were only lucky, our defense cannot improve, and we have a tougher road schedule.

The road schedule has validity.  The other two are fanboys hee-hawing over warm beer outside their trailer.
What's funny/frustrating (funstrating?) is that while we were "lucky" last year and our luck is inevitably going to run out (nevermind that we were beating UGA 27-7 and that Holland very clearly stopped Murray outside the goal line for the BS TD that the refs gifted UGA to give them the 1 point lead to begin with, or that had Chris Davis not ran back the Kick 6, Auburn would be going into OT with all the momentum in front of an insanely pumped home crowd), meanwhile Bama gets every benefit of every doubt. They are losing their whole goddamn team and we're virtually the same squad that beat them & everyone else in the SEC (besides LSU) last year. Oh and LSU is in just as much of a rebuilding year.

Bottom line, there is absolutely zero, zilch, nada reason not to at least assume going into the season that Auburn will win the SEC this year. Not saying it's 100% fact, because nothing ever is. But to default to Bama every year? And to default to us being the #19 team in these BS power rankings? How do you rationalize it? Bama would never have that coming off a season like we did last year. Such is the plight of the Auburn fan, I suppose.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfudgeer
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 04, 2014, 03:27:46 PM
I would think that a lot of the rationale is based on last year's luck and this years road schedule. Those are valid.

I think they just have to come up with something and I don't put a lot of stock into it. In reality, we likely know a lot more about our current state than most of these talking heads. They have 100 other schools to know something about.

We know that this years offense and Nick Marshall should very likely be more balanced and explosive than last years.

We also know that we will have an improved defense.

It doesn't bother me where they put us, although I do think ranking us outside of number 3 is crazy.

We have a mine field to get through but I'm expecting us to win the SEC again.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: Godfather on June 04, 2014, 03:34:29 PM
What's stupid though is every championship takes luck.  Fuck bama was lucky to be in 2 of the 3 they were in.  They needed teams above them to lose and it happened each time.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfudgeer
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 04, 2014, 03:40:35 PM
What's stupid though is every championship takes luck.  fudge bama was lucky to be in 2 of the 3 they were in.  They needed teams above them to lose and it happened each time.
Absolutely true. Our luck had the spotlight on it though. Mount Cody blocking the field goal against UT isn't even in the same zip code with the prayer at Jordan Hare or the kick 6.

I don't have any problem calling our season lucky. But I believe that you have to be damn good to create a lot of that luck. It was one of the luckiest seasons I can recall for AU. Maybe going back to 93?
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 04, 2014, 03:55:10 PM
Agree on the luck thing.  It was a lucky play and yes, you have to have some breaks go your way, whatever they may be, to have a championship type season.  Two keys to the season.  1. The D needs to get the points per game they give up to 20 or below.  Gave up 25 a game last season.  That way, even with a "bad game" offensively, we outscore everyone we play, bar none.  2. Injury free.

Improved D and stay relatively injury free and we should be one of the 4.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: AUChizad on June 04, 2014, 04:18:35 PM
Agree on the luck thing.  It was a lucky play and yes, you have to have some breaks go your way, whatever they may be, to have a championship type season.  Two keys to the season.  1. The D needs to get the points per game they give up to 20 or below.  Gave up 25 a game last season.  That way, even with a "bad game" offensively, we outscore everyone we play, bar none.  2. Injury free.

Improved D and stay relatively injury free and we should be one of the 4.
I'm not denying that both plays, especially the Prayer in Jordan Hare, involved luck. And lots of it, in the case of PIJH.

But what I'm saying is what has already been said.

A) You have to have some luck to win championships. Every champion in history had a few lucky bounces. Only when it's Auburn is it used to completely invalidate everything that was done on the field. If Bama had those same two outcomes zero analysts would be going on about lucky Bama was to get where they did and have no chance of repeating it next year. It would be about how much perseverance they have. Somehow it would be linked back to Saban and the no-quit attitude he instills in the team.

B) While, yes, there was some luck involved, there was a lot of skill to get us there too. It's not like UGA's deflection alone directly gave Auburn 7 points. Ricardo had to have his head in the right place and make the play, which he did. And also, as I said, the game should have been over at that point anyway. Not only had Auburn let off the gas big time in the second half and let a 20 point beatdown slip away, but the TD that finally gave UGA the lead was complete and utter BS, and I would argue much more "luck". And as I said, the Bama game really was much less about luck. Auburn had the slight upper hand the entire game and by the time the Kick 6 happened was clearly carrying all of the momentum. Bama was deflated and on the ropes. And Auburn had a home crowd losing their minds even before that miraculous play. If it had not been run back, we're going to overtime, and I'd have put all my money on Auburn at that point. But it was run back. And how "miraculous" was it really? It was Gus outcoaching "mastermind" Saban by putting a guy in the end zone and telling him to run it out. It was the infallible Lord Saban lining up a kicker and 10 tubs of lard against our speedsters because it never occurred to him that we might try to run it back. And it was Chris Davis burning all those fat fucks in a true display of athleticism. So I'm much less inclined to chock up the Kick 6 to "luck".

C) I would say Auburn caught as many unlucky breaks as we did lucky breaks, so if anything it evens out and we're right back where we started as still the best team in the SEC. Or is it only luck when it works out in Auburn's favor? The aforementioned UGA TD that never should have been. The LSU onside kick that was reversed. Come to think of it, the "bad luck" was much less that as it was piss-poor officiating. Man-made bad breaks.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfudgeer
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 04, 2014, 04:27:17 PM
I'm not denying that I go both ways.

But what I'm saying is what has already been said.

Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: noxin on June 04, 2014, 04:48:22 PM
If it had not been run back, we're going to overtime, and I'd have put all my money on Auburn at that point.

Pfffttt...

We all know bama had the edge with a 5-star field goal kicker
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: jmar on June 04, 2014, 06:58:25 PM
Pfffttt...

We all know bama had the edge with a 5-star field goal kicker
Yup that's why we opened as 23- point dogs.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: The Prowler on June 04, 2014, 09:09:13 PM
ESPN gives Auburn 3 percent chance of reaching College Football Playoff http://t.co/vkUH9WX6C3 (http://t.co/vkUH9WX6C3)

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Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: Tiger Wench on June 05, 2014, 07:36:02 AM
I think they pick Auburn to bash because they need the ratings, and we are a rational fan base (other than tomato boy).  So they know that if they told the truth about bammer, their psycho fan base of inbred ne'er do wells would go postal and blow up the internet and ain't no one got time for that.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 05, 2014, 08:53:22 AM
I think they pick Auburn to bash because they need the ratings, and we are a rational fan base (other than tomato boy).  So they know that if they told the truth about bammer, their psycho fan base of inbred ne'er do wells would go postal and blow up the internet Bristol, CT and ain't no one got time for that.

fixt
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: AUChizad on June 05, 2014, 09:42:57 AM
I think they pick Auburn to bash because they need the ratings, and we are a rational fan base (other than tomato boy).  So they know that if they told the truth about bammer, their psycho fan base of inbred ne'er do wells would go postal and blow up the internet and ain't no one got time for that.
Our national perception is we're a bunch of whiners.

"Wah wah, we think Cam Newton's innocent, while every "rational" person in the world knows he's guilty."

"Wah wah, Auburn should have played in the Championship in 2004"

"Wah wah, the media's out to get us."

We are whiney. I know I am. But we're not wrong.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfucker
Post by: dallaswareagle on June 05, 2014, 11:33:38 AM
Our national perception is we're a bunch of whiners.

"Wah wah, we think Cam Newton's innocent, while every "rational" person in the world knows he's guilty."

"Wah wah, Auburn should have played in the Championship in 2004"

"Wah wah, the media's out to get us."

We are whiney. I know I am. But we're not wrong.



damn skippy.
Title: Re: No Love in this Motherfudgeer
Post by: The Six on June 05, 2014, 12:36:53 PM
Well, I mean, you can only hear that Richard Gere gerbil story so many times...