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Title: Well son of a.........
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 27, 2014, 11:08:18 AM
Didn't realize that Tracy Rocker joined Pruitt at UGA as DL coach this weekend until a few minutes ago.  Not a good thing.  If Pruitt is worth a damn at all their D will be legit.  Also Rocker was a pretty good recruiter as well was he not?  How did he not land another NFL gig?  Damn, I do not like this. 
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Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 27, 2014, 11:28:24 AM
Didn't realize that Tracy Rocker joined Pruitt at UGA as DL coach this weekend until a few minutes ago.  Not a good thing.  If Pruitt is worth a damn at all their D will be legit.  Also Rocker was a pretty good recruiter as well was he not?  How did he not land another NFL gig?  Damn, I do not like this.
Most of what I read and hear about Rocker is that he's a great coach but not so big into recruiting. He apparently doesn't like it and I understood that was part of the reason for the jump to the NFL.

Garner is thought of as the best recruiter. It appears to me that Garner does both coach and recruit at an elite level. But, yes-Rocker is a great hire by Pruitt.
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Post by: AUChizad on January 27, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
You know, the guy that coached Nick Fairley to be so damned dirty.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 27, 2014, 11:33:53 AM
You know, the guy that coached Nick Fairley to be so damned dirty.

So, do we have to hate Fairley by default now?
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: AWK on January 27, 2014, 12:43:15 PM
Fuck Georgia.  I bet they love him now.
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Post by: AUownsU on January 27, 2014, 02:41:55 PM
Most of what I read and hear about Rocker is that he's a great coach but not so big into recruiting. He apparently doesn't like it and I understood that was part of the reason for the jump to the NFL.
Garner is thought of as the best recruiter. It appears to me that Garner does both coach and recruit at an elite level. But, yes-Rocker is a great hire by Pruitt.
Some have said that he didn't really like the way Gene and Troop were running things. Kinda like Gus, he was just trying to get out before it all came crashing down. NFL thing was just an excuse.

That said, think alot of him and wish him good luck. That is untill J.B. Grimes Oline rips his Dline a new asshole anually, of course.

Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: CCTAU on January 27, 2014, 03:49:51 PM
Some have said that he didn't really like the way Gene and Troop were running things. Kinda like Gus, he was just trying to get out before it all came crashing down. NFL thing was just an excuse.

That said, think alot of him and wish him good luck. That is untill J.B. Grimes Oline rips his Dline a new asshole anually, of course.

If that is the case, did Malzahn even ask him to come back?

Or did he turn it down?
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: AUownsU on January 27, 2014, 04:21:36 PM
If that is the case, did Malzahn even ask him to come back?

Or did he turn it down?
Haven't heard that part. I'm not sure if the NFL is where he wants to be or not but I seriously doubt he would've signed up with the leghumpers if the Titans staff hadn't been let go. Same with Auburn.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: GH2001 on January 28, 2014, 10:34:58 AM
Same head guy is still running the car off a cliff. These guys will just be in it when he does now. As we saw with Gene, assts can only cover HC deficiencies so much for so long.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Godfather on January 28, 2014, 10:41:14 AM
Same head guy is still running the car off a cliff. These guys will just be in it when he does now. As we saw with Gene, assts can only cover HC deficiencies so much for so long.
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Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: GH2001 on January 28, 2014, 10:45:27 AM
:english:

Give it another try and take the libery of using a comma or two where I didn't.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 28, 2014, 11:14:00 AM
Give it another try and take the libery of using a comma or two where I didn't.
I'm going to the libery this afternoon.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Godfather on January 28, 2014, 12:10:57 PM
Give it another try and take the libery of using a comma or two where I didn't.
I still don't understand who the fuck you are talking about?

Richt...Gus....Stay Puffed Marshmallow Man?
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 28, 2014, 12:14:22 PM
Any chance of keeping Rocker was blown by JF'nJ. 
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: GH2001 on January 28, 2014, 02:08:43 PM
I still don't understand who the fuck you are talking about?

Richt...Gus....Stay Puffed Marshmallow Man?

Well since we are talking about Rocker at UGA, the head guy in this case would be Marky Mark. He's still in charge of the whole thing and that's all I need to know. Pruitt and Rocker can only do so much. Just like Gus and Rocker did with Gene. In the end, it will come unraveled because the main guy in charge is incompetent.

I say this in response to many of our fans worrying that UGA may become good suddenly because of these two decent hires. I just disagree with that assumption. 
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Godfather on January 28, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
Well since we are talking about Rocker at UGA, the head guy in this case would be Marky Mark. He's still in charge of the whole thing and that's all I need to know. Pruitt and Rocker can only do so much. Just like Gus and Rocker did with Gene. In the end, it will come unraveled because the main guy in charge is incompetent.

I say this in response to many of our fans worrying that UGA may become good suddenly because of these two decent hires. I just disagree with that assumption.
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Sure is taking a long time to unravel?

Don't get me wrong Richt seems to have a problem taking it to the next level, but to compare him to Gene....really?
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 28, 2014, 02:26:21 PM
AU sliced and diced Pruitt's awesome D a few weeks ago....when he had over a month to prepare.  I ain't skurrr'd
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: GH2001 on January 28, 2014, 02:29:02 PM
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Sure is taking a long time to unravel?

Don't get me wrong Richt seems to have a problem taking it to the next level, but to compare him to Gene....really?

Only comparing in re to asst coaches covering their flaws.

Believe me, I want him to stay there. But with the talent and resources he's had, UGA should have a natty or two by now. Underachiever.  The assts in the past weren't the issue for UGA. And the ones going forward won't solve it either. UGA should be like Texas or USC in theory. A half retarded gorilla should be able to go to any of those schools and win 6-7 games. He's just no one that invokes fear and making a couple of decent hires doesn't change that. Especially when the guy in charge of their D was just carved up by Gus.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: AUownsU on January 28, 2014, 02:37:46 PM
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Sure is taking a long time to unravel?

Don't get me wrong Richt seems to have a problem taking it to the next level, but to compare him to Gene....really?
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Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Godfather on January 28, 2014, 02:49:18 PM
Only comparing in re to asst coaches covering their flaws.

Believe me, I want him to stay there. But with the talent and resources he's had, UGA should have a natty or two by now. Underachiever.  The assts in the past weren't the issue for UGA. And the ones going forward won't solve it either. UGA should be like Texas or USC in theory. A half retarded gorilla should be able to go to any of those schools and win 6-7 games. He's just no one that invokes fear and making a couple of decent hires doesn't change that. Especially when the guy in charge of their D was just carved up by Gus.

You know as well as I do that team talent (AU 2004) and coaching (AU 2010) are not only what it takes to get to the MNC so to say he should have 2 is stretching it.  Should he have 1 yes, I think so.  Would I want him as our head coach...depends on when you asked.  Right now...no.   Tuberville was a great coach and he also didn't have any MNC's.

To use him as your example in this case is stupid, IMO. I don't think his assistants cover up deficiencies, assistants are crucial to any team.  Making the right hires that fit your team mold are just as important.  Even though I don't care for him I personally think Richt is a great coach.  He constantly has his team in the hunt, and what more could you want as a fan?

BTW Richt is 8-5 against us.

The other point you made which I have heard media members make is also immaterial.  That you should be able to hire anyone when talking about a certain team or geography.  When has that ever held true?  Name me one example of that happening.  USC was good back in the day and had fallen off the map until Pete Carrol got there.  Texas hadn't done shit after Darrell Royal until Mack Brown.  Ask bama how life had been after Bahr until thy Führer got there.  You need a good coach to coach a good team, it's how it works.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Godfather on January 28, 2014, 02:50:19 PM
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Funny....but missing the point.  If you think Gene earned that, I question your smarts as well.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 28, 2014, 02:54:54 PM
I say this in response to many of our fans worrying that UGA may become good suddenly because of these two decent hires. I just disagree with that assumption.
Whilst I agree with this here part, I do think Richt is a good coach and not underachieved overall. He has certain years but he's won a lot of games overall. I don't know the numbers but I would guess that he's one of the tops in the conference in relation to his tenure. That's a guess, mind you, but it will surprise me if he isn't.
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Post by: GH2001 on January 28, 2014, 02:55:07 PM
Funny....but missing the point.  If you think Gene earned that, I question your smarts as well.

All I'm saying is his hiring of Pruitt and Rocker don't do anything to make me fear them all of a sudden.  To hear an ugger tell it, they are a NC favorite now and should be feared. That's laughable.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Godfather on January 28, 2014, 02:57:26 PM
I'm not scared by who he hired.  I just didn't want Rocker at UGA I would prefer him at AU.
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Post by: Snaggletiger on January 28, 2014, 02:59:25 PM
From teh wikis.  (So, it must be true)

Mark Richt career numbers

126-45

8-4 in bowl games

6 Eastern Division Championships

2 SEC Championships

2 time SEC Corch of the Year
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 28, 2014, 02:59:42 PM
I'm not scared by who he hired.  I just didn't want Rocker at UGA I would prefer him at AU.
Over Garner? Not me. I like them both and Rocker MAY edge out Garner in coaching 'em up but I think Garner beats Rocker by a long way in recruiting.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Godfather on January 28, 2014, 03:30:59 PM
Over Garner? Not me. I like them both and Rocker MAY edge out Garner in coaching 'em up but I think Garner beats Rocker by a long way in recruiting.
I didn't say over anyone.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: AUTiger1 on January 28, 2014, 03:32:23 PM
Over Garner? Not me. I like them both and Rocker MAY edge out Garner in coaching 'em up but I think Garner beats Rocker by a long way in recruiting.

There was a rumor at one point during our assistant coaching search that Rocker was coming back to coach D-Line and Garner was going to coach TE's.  That would have been ideal to me.

I wasn't trying to say in my OP that I was scared b/c of the Pruitt and Rocker hires, but if you don't think those two guys can't come in, with the talent UGA has recruited that is SEC battled tested and make them better then you are crazy.  I am not saying they are automatically NC favorites but I do think those two hires made that game a little more difficult and would rather had seen Rocker go somewhere else. 
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 28, 2014, 03:35:08 PM
There was a rumor at one point during our assistant coaching search that Rocker was coming back to coach D-Line and Garner was going to coach TE's.  That would have been ideal to me.

I wasn't trying to say in my OP that I was scared b/c of the Pruitt and Rocker hires, but if you don't think those two guys can't come in, with the talent UGA has recruited that is SEC battled tested and make them better then you are crazy.  I am not saying they are automatically NC favorites but I do think those two hires made that game a little more difficult and would rather had seen Rocker go somewhere else.
I'm not sold on Pruitt yet. I think he's good but until we see how he coaches against SEC competition with similar talent, the jury is still out. It was a good hire, yes. But time will tell.

I think you are right in that it's prob an upgrade over Grantham.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: WiregrassTiger on January 28, 2014, 03:35:31 PM
I didn't say over anyone.
Under?
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Godfather on January 28, 2014, 03:36:50 PM
Under?
Rocker under Gardner might be a sight. 













One that would burn your retinas.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: dallaswareagle on January 28, 2014, 04:11:52 PM
From teh wikis.  (So, it must be true)

Mark Richt career numbers

126-45

8-4 in bowl games

6 Eastern Division Championships

2 SEC Championships

2 time SEC Corch of the Year

On October 27, 2007, during the Bulldogs' heated rivalry game against the Florida Gators, the entire Georgia football team rushed into the end zone to celebrate after Knowshon Moreno's one-yard touchdown run gave Georgia an early 7–0 lead. The celebration drew two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties that eventually forced the Bulldogs to kick off from their own eight-yard line; during halftime, Richt told CBS sideline reporter Tracy Wolfson that he had told his offense to celebrate the first touchdown until they received a penalty

Fine upstanding man right there.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Godfather on January 28, 2014, 04:55:19 PM
On October 27, 2007, during the Bulldogs' heated rivalry game against the Florida Gators, the entire Georgia football team rushed into the end zone to celebrate after Knowshon Moreno's one-yard touchdown run gave Georgia an early 7–0 lead. The celebration drew two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties that eventually forced the Bulldogs to kick off from their own eight-yard line; during halftime, Richt told CBS sideline reporter Tracy Wolfson that he had told his offense to celebrate the first touchdown until they received a penalty

Fine upstanding man right there.

Again, nothing to do with whether or not he is a good football coach.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Snaggletiger on January 28, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Again, nothing to do with whether or not he is a good football coach.

Honestly, if Malzahn stays that long and wins 126 games, you won't hear one gripe out of me.

Pat Dye won 99 at Auburn and we named the field after the guy.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: dallaswareagle on January 28, 2014, 05:41:21 PM
Honestly, if Malzahn stays that long and wins 126 games, you won't hear one gripe out of me.

Pat Dye won 99 at Auburn and we named the field after the guy.


I thinks its a combination of the 99 games and forcing the turds out of turd town. 
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Post by: The Prowler on January 28, 2014, 06:02:44 PM
From what I've seen of Coach Garner since he's been at Auburn and the NFL players he produced at UGA. I'd say that Coach Garner is on par with Coach Rocker as a DL Coach. They have the exact same tenacity on the practice fields when coaching these kids. As for recruiting, I'd take Coach Garner over Coach Rocker any day of the week.
So, in closing Coach Garner is the better DL coach of the two, but Coach Rocker is still a hell of DL Coach and with the type of talent UGA has already...they're going to be very, very strong in the front four (Coach Rocker is coaching Coach Garner's recruits).
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Post by: GH2001 on January 28, 2014, 09:22:01 PM
From teh wikis.  (So, it must be true)

Mark Richt career numbers

126-45

8-4 in bowl games

6 Eastern Division Championships

2 SEC Championships

2 time SEC Corch of the Year

He's had the same amount of resources and talent as Saban in a weaker division. Anyone have his numbers handy?
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Post by: JR4AU on January 29, 2014, 10:11:47 AM
Richt: good coach but not great.  He is too much of a "want to be liked by everyone good guy" to push UGA up to elite status.  Malzahn, on the other hand is a task-master like Saban but without being the supreme asshole.  Richt can hire who he wants.  Ill take our current staff any day and AU is what matters to me.
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Post by: wesfau2 on January 29, 2014, 10:27:06 AM
Richt: good coach but not great.  He is too much of a "want to be liked by everyone good guy" to push UGA up to elite status.  Malzahn, on the other hand is a task-master like Saban but without being the supreme ashhole.  Richt can hire who he wants.  Ill take our current staff any day and AU is what matters to me.

Rack him!
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Post by: DnATL on January 29, 2014, 11:42:14 AM
Tuberville was a great coach and he also didn't have any MNC's.
Technically no, but Tubs in 2004 exceeds Richt's best.  Richt has had opportunities to win at least two MNC's (opportunities which Tubs never really had in 04 due to status quo of preseason polls) - and Richt couldn't do it.  Not just opportunity as in talent and facilities, but being in actual control-your-destiny master-of-your-domain position in early December.

Of course, by that measure, Malzahn is 0-for-1 - getting there was amazing, but not sealing the deal in Pasadena will be held against him at some point down the line by someone looking to marginalize him.

Richt may be 8-5 against Auburn, but I hope he stays in Athens.  What is HDNutt's record against AU?  Chan Gailey is 2-0.  Context
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Post by: Snaggletiger on January 29, 2014, 12:01:06 PM
Georgia only beats us when we're down.
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Post by: jmar on January 29, 2014, 12:43:43 PM
Georgia only beats us when we're down.
We were better than they were on both sides of the line for a change and we still had to steal one from them. Richt's looking for the next Joe Fucking Cox as you read this.
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Post by: The Six on January 29, 2014, 08:06:36 PM
Richt's looking for the next Joe fudgeing Cox as you read this.

Hunter Mason is his name
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Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: GH2001 on January 29, 2014, 08:09:38 PM
Hunter Mason is his name
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The guy that looked like warm cat vomit against dysfunctional Pelini and his awful Nebraska Defense?

Im really starting to get scared now. The makings of a juggernaut up there in Stipe Town.
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: The Six on January 29, 2014, 09:53:23 PM
The guy that looked like warm cat vomit against dysfunctional Pelini and his awful Nebraska Defense?

Im really starting to get scared now. The makings of a juggernaut up there in Stipe Town.

Is it the end of the world of Richt as we know it?
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 29, 2014, 10:16:07 PM
Is it the end of the world of Richt as we know it?

Maybe after the Orange Crush
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Post by: The Prowler on January 30, 2014, 06:22:00 AM
Hunter Mason is his name
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Is that Jack Holland on the ground?
Title: Re: Well son of a.........
Post by: DnATL on January 30, 2014, 07:47:27 AM
Maybe after the Orange Crush
Richt, don't fall on me
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Post by: Saniflush on January 30, 2014, 06:22:35 PM
Richt, don't fall on me

They are gonna be shiny happy people.