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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: The Six on January 02, 2014, 09:34:40 AM
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Give Florida State and Auburn their due, but Alabama still best team
This is the perfect ending to the BCS era, because Florida State vs. Auburn is the right national championship game, even if the best team in the country -- my opinion -- is neither of them.
So we can bid adieu to the BCS with gratitude for doing what it usually did, putting the most deserving teams in the title game, while also being thankful that a better system is coming next year. One that would have allowed the best team in the country this season, Alabama, to have a shot at the national championship.
Two separate opinions here, so try not to lose sight of either: Florida State and Auburn deserve to play for the national title. They did what they had to do to earn their spot in the championship game Monday in Pasadena, Calif.
AJ McCarron had Alabama programmed for another BCS title game appearance, until ... (USATSI)
This is the perfect ending to the BCS era, because Florida State vs. Auburn is the right national championship game, even if the best team in the country -- my opinion -- is neither of them.
So we can bid adieu to the BCS with gratitude for doing what it usually did, putting the most deserving teams in the title game, while also being thankful that a better system is coming next year. One that would have allowed the best team in the country this season, Alabama, to have a shot at the national championship.
Is that disrespectful to Florida State and Auburn? Maybe. You tell me. But it would be a disservice to the truth -- the truth as I see it, and that's my picture up there next to what we in the business call "the byline" -- to not come out and say what I'm thinking, and what I bet a lot of people are thinking: Alabama is the best team in the country. - Really? Maybe they think it because you and others won't shut up about it.
The beauty and cruelty of football is that it's not like the NBA or Major League Baseball. Teams don't play a best-of-7 series. It's a knockout bracket, and Auburn knocked out Alabama. Could Auburn beat Alabama four times out of seven? Doubt it, but it doesn't matter because Auburn had to beat the Crimson Tide just once. And did. In the most incredible fashion possible, at home, after a coaching miscue by Nick Saban that beat the clock by a fraction of a second. Hey, all of those things happened and Auburn won. Kudos to Auburn. - Stupid comparison. A best of series in a contact sport? Really?
But all of those things happened. And that's what it took for anybody to beat Alabama.
And so Alabama will play Oklahoma on Thursday night in the Sugar Bowl, and that's fair, and if this game were in October and the Crimson Tide needed to win to keep alive their national title hopes, they'd blow the Sooners out. Alabama is that much better than an Oklahoma team that struggled with mediocre Texas Tech, bad TCU and even worse Kansas.
But this is early January and Alabama is the two-time defending national champion playing out the string on a season that turned cruelly in its last game, so if Alabama plays uninspired and Oklahoma comes to win, well, maybe Oklahoma wins. That's not me backing off my opinion about Alabama's greatness, but supporting it: In a vacuum, Alabama crushes Oklahoma. But they're not playing in a vacuum, are they? They're playing in a game nobody at Alabama wants to play. So we'll just have to see. - This attitude that the returned kick was for 28 points or something. - In a vacuum are the ashes of the burned dreams of Saban and these mediots
Whatever happens in the Sugar Bowl, the right teams will play Monday night in California. Florida State navigated its weak schedule by eviscerating everyone on it, and when you're loaded with a great coach and Sunshine State speed and the Heisman Trophy winner, and when you come from a BCS league, and you're all of those things and you're also undefeated? You belong in the national title game.
Ditto for Auburn. The Tigers absolutely belong there, in part for things they did and in part for the fortuitous timing with which they did them. Is Auburn lucky to be here? Not saying that. Auburn deserves to be here because it did everything asked of it in the system we have. The Tigers put up the single most impressive victory of the season, against Alabama, and they did it at the right time -- late in the season. So late that voters forgave Auburn for its loss to LSU way back in September, and also so late that voters couldn't forgive Alabama for its only loss. That's the thing with the BCS: If you're going to lose, lose early. Auburn lost early, then made sure Alabama lost late. Ergo, Auburn gets the bid. - That dang ole system let the out of bounds stepping cheaters in it, Pawwwwl.
Hey, it's fair. Had the two human elements in the BCS formula -- the Harris and coaches' polls -- decided to put Alabama ahead of Auburn because, you know, they think Alabama is better, I'd have screamed about it. Even if I'd have agreed with it. Because this is what I think:
1. Alabama is better.
2. But Auburn did beat Alabama.
3. So Auburn deserves its spot in the title game.
(4. As does Florida State.)
Next year, though, we'll have a system that ought to remove some of the BCS impurities. Namely, the timing of a loss. Early loss, late loss, one shouldn't matter more than the other. But in the unforgiving BCS, where only two teams qualify for the national title "playoff," someone has to be ranked ahead of someone else. And so last year when Alabama and Oregon entered November undefeated, but Alabama had the good fortune to lose at home to No. 15 Texas A&M a week before Oregon lost at home to No. 14 Stanford, the human element slotted Oregon behind Alabama. Timing was everything. - Bullshoot. That committee looks like a corruptible clusterfudge waiting to go off.
Next year the national championship committee will have four slots to give out. Had the committee been in place in 2012, I suspect Oregon would have made it into the playoff as the No. 4 seed (behind No. 3 Florida) and beaten top-seeded Notre Dame in one semifinal, giving the Ducks the chance to settle things with Alabama. Sadly, especially for Oregon fans, we'll never know. - I know, Greg. But they're just so fast...
If the committee were in place this season, Alabama would be the No. 3 seed and playing, again, No. 2 Auburn. And as good as Gus Malzahn is -- he just might be as good as any coach in college football, on par with Nick Saban and therefore a step ahead of Urban Meyer and David Shaw -- my guess is he's better off trying to beat Florida State in an elimination game than trying to beat Alabama in an elimination game. - Kids, this is what they call a backhanded compliment. Pat little Aubrn on the head, but use the other hand to stroke the Bama schlong.
Because Florida State is one of the best teams in America -- but Alabama is better.
So much FAIL in this...
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Some people just can't fathom that Auburn is better than uat...it's absolutely shocking.
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Mr. Doyal, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
What's even worse in my mind is that we are about to move to a system that for example would have rewarded an Alabama for not playing in the SEC championship game.
This is why conference championship games need to go bye bye.
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That is a prime representation of the old school geriatric patients that will hate the new playoff system and will probably keel over and die when it expands.
He's harping on the playoff system in his article, I know. But he doesn't mean it.
Just wait until we have a rollercoaster season with teams #2-#10. #1's undefeated and is a traditional school like Alabama, Ohio State, or USC. #4 that gets into the playoffs is a 2 loss Texas Tech team that gets hot in January and wins the championship. Doyel and his ilk will then write articles wondering if the playoff really determines the best team of the season.
Fuck him.
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By his logic, Ohio State is Lao better than Michigan State because they won last year and all of this year and Sparty just got them at the right time. :facepalm:
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What's even worse in my mind is that we are about to move to a system that for example would have rewarded an Alabama for not playing in the SEC championship game.
This is why conference championship games need to go bye bye.
Or make it a requirement to be in the 4 team playoff, you have to win your conference.
FSU vs Michigan State
Auburn vs Stanford
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Or make it a requirement to be in the 4 team playoff, you have to win your conference.
FSU vs Michigan State
Auburn vs Stanford
Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth. The inbred nation would have to get new dogs and new wives after that happens.
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Or make it a requirement to be in the 4 team playoff, you have to win your conference.
FSU vs Michigan State
Auburn vs Stanford
I seriously don't understand how this doesn't make 100% perfect sense to 100% of everyone with a brain in their skull.
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I seriously don't understand how this doesn't make 100% perfect sense to 100% of everyone with a brain in their skull.
It does. They just won't admit it because in years like this one, and two years ago their favorite team would get left out.
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Oh Bama, what brought you to this lowly state? Please tell us no matter how it hurts. What did we do?
It twas... it twas....
(http://www.flicklives.com/pics/022_acs_025_soap_poisoning.jpg)
...victory poisoning!!
Waaaaaah....
"I think one of our players said it best: Our victory is what defeated us," Saban said. "When you win, sometimes you start to lose focus on the things that are important to being successful. .. And I think sometimes when you have a disappointment that you're a little more ready to respond to get back to doing the things that you need to do to be successful.
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So, they got blinded by all that crystal? Sounds legitimate. :taunt:
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Oh Bama, what brought you to this lowly state? Please tell us no matter how it hurts. What did we do?
It twas... it twas....
...victory poisoning!!
Waaaaaah....
A Bama fan recently bragged to me that they've been winning so much for so long that they've become bored with it. It's why Saban had to coach up the fanbase to keep supporting the team even in victory.
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A Bama fan recently bragged to me that they've been winning so much for so long that they've become bored with it. It's why Saban had to coach up the fanbase to keep supporting the team even in victory.
Then he pushed the cart to your car.
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So, they got blinded by all that crystal? Sounds legitimate. :taunt:
The broken shards got in their eyes.
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Then he pushed the cart to your car.
giggles
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The broken shards got in their eyes.
I was thinking more along the lines of meth.
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ESPN is all over this narrative in the Sugar Bowl pregame show.
May & Holt emphatically stated the same thing.
Alabama was unlucky. Only not playing in their rightful place in the Championship Game because Auburn got ridiculously lucky against UGA.
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Doesn't matter.
Let them babble. We've said for years AU was the best team in the country in '04. Didn't get to prove it.
They can claim whatever they want. Can't back it up.
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Like I said before, after uat beats OU and Auburn beats FSU, there will be a huge push from the REC to have the AP voters to put uat ahead of Auburn.
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Obviously they are now the best 2 loss team EVAR to step foot on the foosball field. Auburn was lucky and Oklahoma didn't beat them...they beat themselves.
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Just heard this one from a few offices over..."Well, aubveeously they dint come ta play, cause it wadnt a game sabbin wanted to be in"
These tears really are delicious
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These tears really are delicious
Tasty and sweet
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Best one I have seen this morning was "the last time Alabama won a game Nelson Mandella was still alive".
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Bama's losing streak spans two years.
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Stewart Mandel started the Twitter campaign last night that Michigan State should get the AP if Auburn wins the BCSCG. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Stewart Mandel started the Twitter campaign last night that Michigan State should get the AP if Auburn wins the BCSCG. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Guess he looked past their ugly loss to mighty notre dame.
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Stewart Mandel started the Twitter campaign last night that Michigan State should get the AP if Auburn wins the BCSCG. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Don't shoot me for this, but I agree. If it weren't for them, Auburn wouldn't even be there.
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Don't shoot me for this, but I agree. If it weren't for them, Auburn wouldn't even be there.
Nope. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to shoot you.
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Nope. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to shoot you.
Damn. It was fun while it lasted
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Just heard this one from a few offices over..."Well, aubveeously they dint come ta play, cause it wadnt a game sabbin wanted to be in"
These tears really are delicious
What time today are you gonna say Bama by 24? Boy is that going to make you sound like an idiot. I sent my credit card info.
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I get that Saban has this process but what I don't get is how insane it is to continue to do the same ol shit, just do it better mentality. At what point do you look at your three man DL (v. an inspired opponent) and maybe just bring Hubbard up as a pass rushing end while occaisionally bringing a safety to alter what their offense is doing. Who doesn't pressure a freshman QB that is cutting your secondary up?
And Alabama is so good AJ doesn't have to go through progressions just never look off and float a long out to Cooper because nobody can stop it.
Which one of the Kuandjo's (sp) became a verbal to AU for an afternoon?
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Which one of the Kuandjo's (sp) became a verbal to AU for an afternoon?
Cyrus--the one that got his ass whipped all night.
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Cyrus--the one that got his ass whipped all night.
And by Lawson on a wonderful day about a month ago.