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If Texas calls, Gus Malzahn should jump at chance to leave Auburn
Gus Malzahn
In one year, Gus Malzahn has completely revamped the Auburn football program. But is it sustainable?
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AUBURN, Ala. -- Toilet paper still draped the trees in Toomer's Corner on Tuesday morning. The nation still marveled in awe at Auburn's dramatic 34-28 Iron Bowl victory over Alabama, when -- maybe you've heard -- cornerback Chris Davis returned a missed field goal 109 yards for a touchdown on the game's final play.
It's been that kind of season for Auburn, as the Tigers have reeled off one dramatic victory after another -- Mississippi State, Texas A&M, Georgia and finally Alabama. It's also been a dramatic change from the state of affairs a year ago. In his first season as head coach, Gus Malzahn has taken a team that went 0-8 in the SEC in 2012 and led it to the league title game.
But as great as things are for Malzahn on the Plains right now, here's a piece of advice for the Tigers coach: Get out of Auburn as fast as you can.
There's an expectation that the Texas job will open in the next few weeks. According to a source, Malzahn has told friends privately that coaching the Longhorns is his dream job. If confronted with the choice between Auburn and Austin, it's a no-brainer move for Malzahn to bolt. The best job in the Big 12 is a much more stable place than The Plains, as even a play-caller of Malzahn's acumen isn't likely to make adjustments to historical trends.
History tells us that Auburn coaches -- no matter how successful -- don't have long and stable professional careers. Just ask Terry Bowden, who started 11-0 in 1993. Or Tommy Tuberville, who went 13-0 in 2004 after a failed coup to hire Bobby Petrino. Or Gene Chizik, who got fired two seasons after going 14-0 and winning the national title.
Eventually, serendipity meets reality. The pendulum of good fortune swings the other way. Charmed runs meet market corrections. There's a lot about the way this season unfolded that has been a unicorn. And unicorns don't often travel in packs.
Meddling boosters have been a huge problem at Auburn in the past, and the Tigers coach is seemingly always a 7-5 campaign away from a millionaire batting his eyelashes at the next hot name. That booster may just charter a plane to go talk to him.
In the 14-team SEC, Auburn will never be better than the fifth-best job, as Alabama, Florida, Georgia and LSU are widely considered a notch above the Tigers' position. So if Malzahn gets a chance to go to the Longhorns, he should jump at the opportunity. That's in part because of the boundless potential in Texas, where recruiting talent is flush and national championship expectations are realistic. (Think the Texas high school coaches wouldn't all love Malzahn?)
Look at the careers of Bowden, Tuberville and Chizik, all of whom atrophied since leaving The Plains. There have been too many prying boosters, too many NCAA investigations and too much off-field tumult the past two decades to think that it can all be cleared away with a few improbable victories.
That's what's been the most striking part of Auburn's 2013 season -- the near absence of off-field issues. From the time Auburn won the national title in '10 until the firing of Chizik last November, nine Tigers players were arrested. While that total isn't jarring relative to the rest of the SEC, four of those arrests were for armed robbery in March '11. That incident, along with the murder of two former players near campus in June '12, cast a pall over the program.
An analysis by AL.com in January 2012 showed that 43 percent of Auburn's 2009 and '10 signees left the program. The school had enough concerns about its players' off-field behavior that it paid an outside company nearly $75,000 to monitor its players to uphold an 11 p.m. curfew last season.
Since Malzahn has taken over, all has essentially been quiet off the field. He has thrown three players off the team, including the leading returning tackler from 2012, Demetruce McNeal, who was arrested in August for marijuana possession. But that's been the closest thing to controversy, a far cry from the 13-month NCAA investigation into allegations relating to Cam Newton and four other Auburn football players.
SEC commissioner Mike Slive credited Auburn for the recent spell of stability. "I've been impressed with [athletic director] Jay Jacobs and [president] Dr. Jay Gogue and how they have made two decisions on the football side that have served them well," Slive said. "They deserve a whole lot of credit here. Needless to say, so does Gus. It's certainly a historic turnaround."
Slive added about the lack of trouble: "It shows you there's real stability at the highest levels here."
Betting on that lasting would be betting against history. Perhaps this is the start of a long and prosperous run of success on the field and a lack of issues off it. But history has shown that impatience and power struggles are the norm. Bobby Lowder, the infamous mega-booster, has decreased power since his fortune shrunk late last decade. But there's still enough pockets of booster power that some agents steered their clients away from pursuing the Auburn job last year. (Chizik's time at Auburn, even with the national title, still seems to haunt him. His name rarely comes up in job searches.)
Malzahn deserves all the credit for cleaning things up off the field and reviving the Tigers' fortunes on it. His offense is imaginative, his recruitment of Nick Marshall showcases his eye for talent and his leadership has been exquisite in transforming the team's culture. In less than a year, he's changed the image and fortunes of the program more significantly than even the most optimistic Auburn fan could have envisioned.
Who could have guessed this summer that Malzahn may be more likely to go to Texas than Nick Saban? Meanwhile, Alabama is having a season that includes an uncharacteristic number of off-field issues.
University of Texas' regents have made it clear that Saban is their top target, but there's little optimism in Austin that he'll jump. While Alabama's presumed absence from the national title game increases the slim possibility of Saban leaving -- it eliminates the awkward timing element if he's playing for a BCS championship -- it's hard to envision that happening. (Ironically, both Malzahn and Saban have the same agent, Jimmy Sexton.)
And that's arguably the biggest reason Malzahn should jump. One 109-yard field goal return doesn't supplant Alabama as the premier program in the state, country and SEC West. Chasing Saban isn't a wise way to spend one's prime coaching years.
So if Texas calls Malzahn, he would be foolish not to listen. Considering the combination of Texas' potential and Auburn's history, it could be Malzahn's savviest escape yet.
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So...I was completely wring about Gus...so I could be wrong again...
But...
This is the type of thing that I think fuels Gus. He has a completely different makeup of every coach at Auburn I have seen besides Pat Dye. I truly don't feel like this is about him. Gus don't have time for that shit. He is about making sure that his team is prepared, focus and wins. That's it. I don't buy into the fact that Gus would go any other place, especially with articles like this are out there. In my opinion, these are the kinds of things that make Gus want to prove everyone that says shit like this is wrong. I can see him running Saban out of town long before he leaves...
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Fuck Thamel in da' mouf.
And if Gus leaves, we'll go get another coach. I'd hate it but hell, coaches come and go every year. Would he leave? Have no clue. But, he ain't from around these parts and if Texas doubled that salary and wanted him to come from the most competitive conference in the nation to a conference where your competition consists of a grand total of ONE constantly overrated program....wouldn't be the biggest surprise on earth. But still....
Fuck Thamel in da' mouf.
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There's an easy retort -
Name the last coach hired away from Auburn to a "better" program.
He nor anyone else can answer it.
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Can we put Thamel's face on the elephant and Gus hanging out the window of the express?
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There simply are not words for the national sense of butthurt over Auburn's resurgence. It's like they think Harvey Hero Updyke convinced the state and federal governments to shutter the doors of the school.
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And if Gus leaves, we'll go get another coach. I'd hate it but hell, coaches come and go every year.
There's an easy retort -
Name the last coach hired away from Auburn to a "better" program.
He nor anyone else can answer it.
Which brings me to this:
Despite conventional wisdom, Auburn IS one of the best coaching jobs in the country.
Heisman, Donahue, and Jordan not withstanding, just in my lifetime, every coach has been mural-worthy in their own ways. If I had the ability, I wouldn't go back in time and trade anyone for anyone.
Dye - Obviously a legend. Goes without saying.
Bowden - This is the one most people here will disagree with me on. But not only did he provide us the first undefeated season of my lifetime, he also, until Gus, had the highest win percentage in Auburn history. And you can't really count Gus, due to sample size. If you took Gus's first year, vs. Terry's first year, he's still got the edge with 100%. And 47-17 overall is pretty damn impressive, regardless of whoever's daughter he may have fucked.
Tuberville - Was an Iron Bowl winning machine. Six in a row. Got us our next undefeated season. Second coach in a row to do that (hard to believe Dye never did). Should have won a national championship, but fuck the media. For whatever reason, eventually he lost the edge he once had. Really only Tubs' first and last years did he fail to be bowl eligible and only had less than 8 wins two other times. But one of those times was his last season. 5-7 isn't going to cut it. We thank you for your time. Remains a good sport about it, as evidenced by his presence at the Iron Bowl.
Chizik - Came in at the right time and assembled an amazing staff. A staff that could recruit lights out, even competing on the trail with Lord Saban Almighty. And a staff that included one Gustav Malzahn. Two "average" 8-5 seasons bookended one very magical season that I wouldn't have traded for the world. The one season (so far) whose culmination brought me to tears of joy. We had finally done it. We finally overcame all the bullshit stacked against us and won it all. Oh, you're back to winning National Championships and now you're even winning a Heisman now, Bama? Well, we're going to win those too, the very next year. However, two years after that: Dumpster fire. And thank you Gene, for failing in such flagrant fashion in 2012. Had he floundered to a 7-5 season, we'd have given him another chance. It wouldn't have been so clearly obvious that it was time to move on. And we would have missed out on...
Malzahn - Auburn connection set in place by Chizik. Investment paid dividends. Did what only Bowden has done in recent memory, which is beat Bama and win the West in his first season. Or either of those things. Threw down the gauntlet and made it known Saban's reign of terror was over, if you can really call two independent "streaks" of two in a row a "reign". We'll never be in danger of fearing any thumbs, at least not until long after Saban is dead and rotted.
In short, they've ALL had at least one dream season. They've ALL played integral roles in establishing dominance over Bama in different ways.
I'd put them all on the Mount Rushmore of Auburn next to Shug, Heisman, & Donahue.
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I totally agree that AU is on par with any program in the country. No one has to pimp this place. It speaks for itself and fuck Thamel in da' mouf for acting like Auburn is a black hole of coaching. I also have no reason to believe that Gus Malzahn has any interest in leaving....or that he's even been contacted by Texas or anyone else.
Just saying I'd hate like hell if he did bolt, but I'd totally get it. Nothing at all against Auburn. But look at some of the scenarios (If they are in fact, realistic) that we've seen laid out. You're the hot ticket right now and you know you're going to get a good bump for the season you just had. So, he goes to what, $3.75....$4.25 Million? Texas comes calling. Yo, Hans.....bubie....how's $6 million sound and you don't have to recruit against or fight it out with Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, LSU....? Instead, you've got Bob Stoops and.....uumm....Bob Stoops. You win here and you can be a god.
Guess it depends on what your goals are.
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You need to update that. Selena belongs in there before Palmer.
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People also forget that Auburn is a cash cow for college football. We have a rabid fanbase with big support from huge money people.
No, we can't offer $15 million to a coach like Texas can, but I guaran-fucking-tee you no school out there is going to offer more than $7 million to a coach right now. And as much as I like Gus, he's only one year into his experience as a head coach at a big time program. They'd be idiots to offer that much. Honestly, we'd be idiots to counter that offer.
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People also forget that Auburn is a cash cow for college football. We have a rabid fanbase with big support from huge money people.
No, we can't offer $15 million to a coach like Texas can, but I guaran-fucking-tee you no school out there is going to offer more than $7 million to a coach right now. And as much as I like Gus, he's only one year into his experience as a head coach at a big time program. They'd be idiots to offer that much. Honestly, we'd be idiots to counter that offer.
See, this has been my contention for quite some time. Let a coach have a great season and especially one that includes beating Bama, and our trustees, AD...whoever...all go full tard and give him the keys to the city and a mammoth buyout. Bump the guy like he deserves and let him prove himself over a few years.
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I don't remember the numbers but I assume Gus will get a boost this year. I don't think he should be the highest paid guy in the SEC by any stretch but he deserves an increase. He needs to be at least in the top 25%. And, I hope they go heavier on the incentives for winning west, SEC champ and BCS. When we win the west, make it drizzle pretty good. If we win the SEC, make it rain hard. BCS, make it flood. Buy him a Waffle House.
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I don't remember the numbers but I assume Gus will get a boost this year. I don't think he should be the highest paid guy in the SEC by any stretch but he deserves an increase. He needs to be at least in the top 25%. And, I hope they go heavier on the incentives for winning west, SEC champ and BCS. When we win the west, make it drizzle pretty good. If we win the SEC, make it rain hard. BCS, make it flood. Buy him a Waffle House.
Agree 100% with this.
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Back to this pile of shit. I will be borrowing snark from The Auburner's tweets.
There's an expectation that the Texas job will open in the next few weeks. According to a source, Malzahn has told friends privately that coaching the Longhorns is his dream job.
There you go with your sources again... :facepalm:
If confronted with the choice between Auburn and Austin, it's a no-brainer move for Malzahn to bolt. The best job in the Big 12 is a much more stable place than The Plains, as even a play-caller of Malzahn's acumen isn't likely to make adjustments to historical trends.
No brainer. Right. To follow the only coach to win a National Championship since Woodstock, which is when their only other coach in the history of their program won one. After that Championship nearly a decade ago, he proceeded to run the program into the ground. Their only competitor bolted for the one unequivocal best conference, which is where Malzahn is now. The Big 12 is on the verge of extinction. Getting INTO the SEC is the end goal. Even if it's Vandy. USC for all their perceived dominance. Franklin told them thanks, but no thanks.
Meanwhile Malzahn is well on his way to being the guy that usurps Saban's crown and replaces him as the greatest coach in college football.
No brainer, my ass.
History tells us that Auburn coaches -- no matter how successful -- don't have long and stable professional careers. Just ask Terry Bowden, who started 11-0 in 1993. Or Tommy Tuberville, who went 13-0 in 2004 after a failed coup to hire Bobby Petrino. Or Gene Chizik, who got fired two seasons after going 14-0 and winning the national title.
They don't have long and stable professional careers. Now here's some guys that have long and stable professional careers. What is your measuring stick for "long and stable professional careers"?
The average tenure of a college football coach is about 4 years.
Bowden, six years. Tuberville, a decade. Chizik, an average 4 years. As I already mentioned above, all of them had great careers. Tubs is still coaching in D1. He would love to still be at Auburn if it were up to him, but we moved on. Bowden has been coaching college football for decades. Chizik's story's really still yet to be written. I'd be shocked if he remained a head coach, but I highly doubt if he had tried his hand at coaching at Texas instead, he would have had a long sustainable career.
Eventually, serendipity meets reality. The pendulum of good fortune swings the other way. Charmed runs meet market corrections. There's a lot about the way this season unfolded that has been a unicorn. And unicorns don't often travel in packs.
"Unicorns are not real. 1993, 2004 and 2010 actually happened." - The Auburner
Meddling boosters have been a huge problem at Auburn in the past, and the Tigers coach is seemingly always a 7-5 campaign away from a millionaire batting his eyelashes at the next hot name. That booster may just charter a plane to go talk to him.
"Seemingly" is code for "not at all". As discussed, it took a lot more than 7-5 campaigns to bring any Auburn coach down. It took not making a bowl game, or in Chizik's case, not winning a single game in the SEC and dropping your only halfway decent non-conference.
In the 14-team SEC, Auburn will never be better than the fifth-best job, as Alabama, Florida, Georgia and LSU are widely considered a notch above the Tigers' position. So if Malzahn gets a chance to go to the Longhorns, he should jump at the opportunity. That's in part because of the boundless potential in Texas, where recruiting talent is flush and national championship expectations are realistic. (Think the Texas high school coaches wouldn't all love Malzahn?)
This is based on absolutely fucking nothing but his own bias.
"The Thamel piece is someone trying *very* hard to rationalize Auburn's success with a belief that Auburn is an inferior program." - The Auburner again.
Look at the careers of Bowden, Tuberville and Chizik, all of whom atrophied since leaving The Plains. There have been too many prying boosters, too many NCAA investigations and too much off-field tumult the past two decades to think that it can all be cleared away with a few improbable victories.
What prying boosters? Lowder has been gone for over a decade. This is a boogieman. Too many NCAA investigations? There was ONE in the history you mentioned, and it was complete bullshit fabricated mostly by YOU. And the NCAA agree.
That's what's been the most striking part of Auburn's 2013 season -- the near absence of off-field issues. From the time Auburn won the national title in '10 until the firing of Chizik last November, nine Tigers players were arrested. While that total isn't jarring relative to the rest of the SEC, four of those arrests were for armed robbery in March '11. That incident, along with the murder of two former players near campus in June '12, cast a pall over the program.
Again, completely irrelevant, and as you said, not at all unusual. Also using completely innocent players being murdered in cold blood as proof the program is run amok is deplorable. This is basically Pete saying "I tried super hard to come up with ANYTHING to latch on to as an off the field issue, and I just can't come up with SHIT! DAMMIT! Let me bring up the past then."
An analysis by AL.com in January 2012 showed that 43 percent of Auburn's 2009 and '10 signees left the program. The school had enough concerns about its players' off-field behavior that it paid an outside company nearly $75,000 to monitor its players to uphold an 11 p.m. curfew last season.
Again, the curfew thing is exaggerated. A coach is literally chastised for having an undisciplined team for disciplining his team. And the 2009 signees left because most of them graduated. That's a novel idea. Many in both classes left for the NFL. This is nowhere near as sinister as it sounds.
Since Malzahn has taken over, all has essentially been quiet off the field. He has thrown three players off the team, including the leading returning tackler from 2012, Demetruce McNeal, who was arrested in August for marijuana possession. But that's been the closest thing to controversy, a far cry from the 13-month NCAA investigation into allegations relating to Cam Newton and four other Auburn football players.
What four other players? First I've heard of that. Are you talking about the HBO 4? Who were from the Tuberville era, and also clearly proven to be liars?
SEC commissioner Mike Slive credited Auburn for the recent spell of stability. "I've been impressed with [athletic director] Jay Jacobs and [president] Dr. Jay Gogue and how they have made two decisions on the football side that have served them well," Slive said. "They deserve a whole lot of credit here. Needless to say, so does Gus. It's certainly a historic turnaround."
Slive added about the lack of trouble: "It shows you there's real stability at the highest levels here."
Betting on that lasting would be betting against history. Perhaps this is the start of a long and prosperous run of success on the field and a lack of issues off it. But history has shown that impatience and power struggles are the norm. Bobby Lowder, the infamous mega-booster, has decreased power since his fortune shrunk late last decade. But there's still enough pockets of booster power that some agents steered their clients away from pursuing the Auburn job last year. (Chizik's time at Auburn, even with the national title, still seems to haunt him. His name rarely comes up in job searches.)
Again, Lowder is made out to be some boogie man, like he was doing anything nefarious outside of jetgate. Which is hardly a monstrous offense.
Malzahn deserves all the credit for cleaning things up off the field and reviving the Tigers' fortunes on it. His offense is imaginative, his recruitment of Nick Marshall showcases his eye for talent and his leadership has been exquisite in transforming the team's culture. In less than a year, he's changed the image and fortunes of the program more significantly than even the most optimistic Auburn fan could have envisioned.
Who could have guessed this summer that Malzahn may be more likely to go to Texas than Nick Saban? Meanwhile, Alabama is having a season that includes an uncharacteristic number of off-field issues.
University of Texas' regents have made it clear that Saban is their top target, but there's little optimism in Austin that he'll jump. While Alabama's presumed absence from the national title game increases the slim possibility of Saban leaving -- it eliminates the awkward timing element if he's playing for a BCS championship -- it's hard to envision that happening. (Ironically, both Malzahn and Saban have the same agent, Jimmy Sexton.)
And that's arguably the biggest reason Malzahn should jump. One 109-yard field goal return doesn't supplant Alabama as the premier program in the state, country and SEC West. Chasing Saban isn't a wise way to spend one's prime coaching years.
Yep. That 109 yard field goal scored us 34 points, you know. We had no chance until then. It is 100% fact that they would have won in overtime, despite Auburn having the momentum basically the entire game.
So if Texas calls Malzahn, he would be foolish not to listen. Considering the combination of Texas' potential and Auburn's history, it could be Malzahn's savviest escape yet.
Keep wishing douche.
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As Jarhead so succinctly put it last night...
Thamel also thought Manti Te'o's girlfriend was real.
Fuck him.
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Bowden - This is the one most people here will disagree with me on. But not only did he provide us the first undefeated season of my lifetime, he also, until Gus, had the highest win percentage in Auburn history. And you can't really count Gus, due to sample size. If you took Gus's first year, vs. Terry's first year, he's still got the edge with 100%. And 47-17 overall is pretty damn impressive, regardless of whoever's daughter he may have fucked.
Because you were in what 5th grade when this happened. You do realize that his firing had nothing to do with him fucking someone other than the football team right?
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Because you were in what 5th grade when this happened. You do realize that his firing had nothing to do with him fudgeing someone other than the football team right?
What are you talking about? He took the best running back in college football and consensus preseason All-American and made him a 4th round draft pick. Only a great coach can do something like that.
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Because you were in what 5th grade when this happened. You do realize that his firing had nothing to do with him fucking someone other than the football team right?
Also...a retarded monkey could have averaged 9 wins a season for the 93 and 94 seasons as head coach with the loaded roster that was there. 1993 could very well have been Dyes most talented starting 22. Up there at least with 85 and 88 on talent alone.
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Also...a retarded monkey could have averaged 9 wins a season for the 93 and 94 seasons as head coach with the loaded roster that was there. 1993 could very well have been Dyes most talented starting 22. Up there at least with 85 and 88 on talent alone.
He averaged 10 and 0.5 and 0.5.
I know he got booted mid season after five losses two four ranked teams, two in the top 5 and another in the top 10, and wasn't allowed to complete the year. And was replaced by an interim that continued to do just as bad. To Thamel's point, he was booted after one bad season, just like every coach that proceeded him, except he wasn't even given the chance to right the ship.
A .731 win percentage is better than Dye, better than Tuberville, better than Chizik, better than Heisman, Shug, or Donahue.
He won football games at Auburn. Lots of 'em.
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He averaged 10 and 0.5 and 0.5.
I know he got booted mid season after five losses two four ranked teams, two in the top 5 and another in the top 10, and wasn't allowed to complete the year. And was replaced by an interim that continued to do just as bad. To Thamel's point, he was booted after one bad season, just like every coach that proceeded him, except he wasn't even given the chance to right the ship.
A .731 win percentage is better than Dye, better than Tuberville, better than Chizik, better than Heisman, Shug, or Donahue.
He won football games at Auburn. Lots of 'em.
Again also not why he was fired.
That season was not why he was fired. He was fired because he had made a shambles of recruiting network, every high school coach hated his guts, we were recruiting 145lb running backs. We were heading down a black hole that would have set us back years. I was there...at least Chizik could recruit.
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Again also not why he was fired.
That season was not why he was fired. He was fired because he had made a shambles of recruiting network, every high school coach hated his guts, we were recruiting 145lb running backs. We were heading down a black hole that would have set us back years. I was there...at least Chizik could recruit.
This^^^ When the coach who follows you publically says he's never seen so little talent on an SEC team....there was a huge problem.
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Again also not why he was fired.
That season was not why he was fired. He was fired because he had made a shambles of recruiting network, every high school coach hated his guts, we were recruiting 145lb running backs. We were heading down a black hole that would have set us back years. I was there...at least Chizik could recruit.
I'll have you know that Markeith Cooper was every bit of 160.
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I'll have you know that Markeith Cooper was every bit of 160.
He might have been but DeMontray Carter was every bit 140 soaking wet.
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He averaged 10 and 0.5 and 0.5.
I know he got booted mid season after five losses two four ranked teams, two in the top 5 and another in the top 10, and wasn't allowed to complete the year. And was replaced by an interim that continued to do just as bad. To Thamel's point, he was booted after one bad season, just like every coach that proceeded him, except he wasn't even given the chance to right the ship.
A .731 win percentage is better than Dye, better than Tuberville, better than Chizik, better than Heisman, Shug, or Donahue.
He won football games at Auburn. Lots of 'em.
I can't argue this BUT I'm not so sure Bowden was canned mid season. There are two sides to that story. One side is that Bowden knew he was likely gone at the end of the season and when he didn't receive the security that he wanted, he chose to leave. That's the side I believe. And I think this hurt his career by doing so.
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I can't argue this BUT I'm not so sure Bowden was canned mid season. There are two sides to that story. One side is that Bowden knew he was likely gone at the end of the season and when he didn't receive the security that he wanted, he chose to leave. That's the side I believe. And I think this hurt his career by doing so.
I believe he was still there but no one could see him behind the furniture. They assumed he left.
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I believe he was still there but no one could see him behind the furniture. They assumed he left.
It wasn't until he started to peak out past the sides of the furniture.
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I believe he was still there but no one could see him behind the furniture. They assumed he left.
He couldn't hide behind an entertainment center any more.
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He is not fat he is
big boned Ok he be Hugh. :facepalm: :facepalm:
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He is not fat he is big boned Ok he be Hugh. :facepalm: :facepalm:
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That man is a picture of robust, manly sex appeal.
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That man is a picture of robust, manly sex appeal.
More chins than a Chinese phonebook.
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That man is a picture of robust, manly sex appeal.
Even while doing German beer ads.
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Even while doing German beer ads.
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Verdammt heiß Wes sind
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Even while doing German beer ads.
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That's where Zoolander copped "Blue Steel."
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That's where Zoolander copped "Blue Steel."
Water is the essence of wetness, wetness is the essence of beauty.
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That's where Zoolander copped "Blue Steel."
The man has only one look, for Christ's sake! Blue Steel? Ferrari? Le Tigra? They're the same face! Doesn't anybody notice this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!
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I can't argue this BUT I'm not so sure Bowden was canned mid season. There are two sides to that story. One side is that Bowden knew he was likely gone at the end of the season and when he didn't receive the security that he wanted, he chose to leave. That's the side I believe. And I think this hurt his career by doing so.
I know this for an absolute fact. He went in, asked for a commitment and/or an extension because he knew things were a mess. When the administration told him they would not discuss the matter until after the season was over, he said he would walk out unless they gave him assurances right then and there. He got none and made good on his threat.
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Tot post 94: 27-16. 16-13 in Sec play.
And it was just gonna get worse.
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All of that is irrelevant to me. '93 alone is enough to cement him in the Auburn coaching HOF (along with everyone except Barfield since Shug). Having the best record amongst all of them is icing.
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All of that is irrelevant to me. '93 alone is enough to cement him in the Auburn coaching HOF (along with everyone except Barfield since Shug). Having the best record amongst all of them is icing.
:oh: :oh: :oh: :oh: :oh: :oh: :oh: :oh: :oh: :oh: :oh: :oh: :oh:
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Oh yeah, finebaum had Thamel on as a special guest today to talk about Malzahn and how he'll jump at the opportunity to coach at Texas. Then they both bashed Auburn for a about five minutes or more, I switched stations because I don't like listening to people that have no clue about what they're talking about...especially Pete Thamel.
Thamel is still pissed about his Syracuse team not winning the National Championship back in '88, iirc, because Auburn went for the tie. The butthurt is strong with that douche bag.
Reading the tea leaves, this is a ploy to get Auburn off their game as they (the bammer mediots and 75-80% of the State) pull for Missouri this weekend. Also, there's something going on down at uat that the State media is trying to keep under wraps.
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That man is a picture of robust, manly sex appeal.
Is that your next avatar ?
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http://trackemtigers.com/?p=22406#more-22406 (http://trackemtigers.com/?p=22406#more-22406)
Dear Pete,
Pete Thamel of Sports Illustrated published an article earlier this week advising Gus Malzahn to bolt from Auburn upon the first chance he got along with some reasons as to why he should do so. After double-checking that he hadn’t inadvertently published an article intended for The Onion by mistake, I decided to respond to his unsolicited “advice†and also return the favor.
Dear Pete,
First of all, I sincerely hope you were paid to write this piece [advising Malzahn to bolt from Auburn]. I don’t mean paid your standard salary for whatever it is gossip/advice columnists are making these days. I mean I hope you were literally a hired gun on this – otherwise you have become the sole party responsible for the pettiest, childish, and most baseless piece of sports-journalism ever.
It is ridiculous. It is ‘North Korean newspaper Kim Jong-Il golf escapades story’ ridiculous.
The worst part of the “you being a hired gun theory†is that you didn’t even earn the bounty. Instead of carrying out the hit, you placed a whoopee-cushion in your target’s seat only to later realize it was your own chair all along.
Your motivations aside, why does any of this even matter? Was Auburn’s recent success too much to digest? Because Auburn is some “white whale†you have been chasing through the sea of your own malevolent idiotic ramblings of the past in hopes of restoring some of the credibility you once possibly had?
Oh, and speaking of fictional creatures…
At any given point in the article, you can’t even seem to make up your mind as to what profound point you are trying to make. It is literally just a list of unrelated negative things that have happened with the football program – with questionable cryptozoology conjecture regarding the migration habits of unicorns used to “really drive home your point†I guess?
Allow me to provide a brief summary of your position:
Malzhan should leave Auburn because he’s too good of a coach to have his career ruined by being at Auburn because he is having a great season but it is a lucky season because pendulums have to swing both ways otherwise I guess they wouldn’t be pendulums – they’d be something else – and you might see one unicorn but never more than that because Bobby Lowder pays them to travel solo and players are getting in to too much trouble at Auburn – not too much when compared to other SEC schools – but too much for a school whose integrity I am attacking and selectively holding different aspects of to varying standards of quality and something about a terrible awful 13-month NCAA investigation that actually found absolutely nothing wrong and- WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT, PETE?
I am sure you are pleased with this article’s attention and the traffic it has generated for both you personally and Sports Illustrated. Money is king – and I understand publishing stories that stir emotion are good for business these days.
Just remember what other people say about those who play in traffic.
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Good response
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http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2012/pete-thamel-accusations-tyrann-mathieu/ (http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2012/pete-thamel-accusations-tyrann-mathieu/)
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http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2013/12/iron-bowl-journalism-part-2-the-bad/#.UqIxEBCHASM (http://www.thewareaglereader.com/2013/12/iron-bowl-journalism-part-2-the-bad/#.UqIxEBCHASM)
Iron Bowl Journalism, Part 2: The Bad
Written by John Carvalho Columns, Football, Sports, The Sports Page Dec 6, 2013
Thank goodness there was not as much bad as there was good, in my opinion. I will present only two examples — because they are examples of not only bad journalism (in my opinion), but also bad trends.
Here is the obvious disclaimer of being an Auburn fan and faculty member. I am at least equally as passionate about professional journalism practices. But you can factor that into these comments and judge for yourself.
Kevin Scarbinsky’s column on Tre Mason — in which he called Mason’s confidence in Auburn’s running game “foolishness†— was a definite turkey, as well as a bad prediction on his part.
Mason responded to Scarbinsky’s click-inducing trolling with class (as Ryan Black noted in my column yesterday). But Scarbinsky compounded the misstep by appearing to take partial credit for Mason’s performance: He tweeted, “Who lit a fire under Tre Mason?â€
Even in Scarbinsky’s follow-up column, he shrugged his shoulders, noting that he never used the specific words “trash talk.†No, but his point was clear.
He proudly noted his courage in introducing himself to Mason after the game. Scarbinsky does not pick up, however, that the friendly and gregarious Mason responded to his greeting with two words. If you know Mason at all, that is telling.
Besides the obvious missteps, Scarbinsky is also reflecting the attitude that seemed to have crept into the articles and tweets of many Alabama beat writers: a smug inevitability about Alabama’s success. Some writers buck the trend: Marc Torrence of the Crimson White is an exception that might surprise you. Aaron Suttles of the Tuscaloosa News is another.
I don’t want to go into too much detail. I don’t want the orange and blue to obscure the page, and it’s true that Alabama provided a lot of success to be smug about. But there seemed to be such a grasping for a dynasty narrative — both locally and nationally — that it seemed to creep into the tone of the articles.
Pete Thamel on Texas and Gus Malzahn — This was amateur hour on so many levels. It’s no wonder that it produced a mere blip on the radar, soon forgotten. First, let’s start with Thamel’s gem: the one piece of information that seemed to qualify as reporting.
“According to a source, Malzahn has told friends privately that coaching the Longhorns is his dream job.â€
That’s it. Thamel fills the rest with his opinions. The article is titled “Viewpoint,†so it can be expected to reflect opinion. But as I tell my sports reporting students, a column is supposed to be a reporting exercise. The best columns give readers information, not just shallow analysis.
On that count, this article fails. Let’s look at how.
First, note that Malzahn did not say that to Thamel’s source directly. The source knows that Malzahn has told this to other people. Not firsthand. Not secondhand. Thirdhand.
Thamel stops at that one sentence. No further background or information from this source on why Malzahn feels that way. No poignant descriptions of seeing Texas play as a kid. Just one sentence to run with.
If I’m not mistaken, the reports of Saban’s interest in Texas were just as poorly sourced and researched.
Second, Thamel does no other reporting on this. Just out of casual interest, my curiosity piqued, I did a Google search. Typed in “Gus Malzahn†and Texas.
Guess what I found out on Wikipedia? Malzahn was born in Irving, Texas. (If that induces irrational panic, seek help.) I’m not presenting that as any big revelation. By his high school years, he had moved to Arkansas, where he would go to school, work and live for at least the next 22 years.
My point is that Thamel could not even be troubled to look up or include that fact or anything else in his column. He took one thirdhand, anonymously sourced quote and made it into a column.
As I told my students walking into class, “You guys know what I do when you pull a stunt like that in one of your assignments.†Sometimes they will drop an interesting morsel into an article and then abandon it because, at this point in their journalism development, they get distracted or maybe a little lazy.
That fact is usually circled, with a comment in the margin: “You opened this door. Now you gotta walk through it and do the work. Don’t leave your reader hanging.â€
But Thamel is supposed to be a seasoned, well-paid pro, not a college junior trying to juggle school, work, and a football team that produces Internet obsession-worthy content.
The writing and, yes, even the YouTubes have enhanced the memorable week that it is. A late addition from a TWER reader — a column in the Stanford Daily— was a Thursday treat for us.
In a week of memorable sports journalism that showed what can be when event and writing combine, Scarbinsky and Thamel sadly showed also how bad it can be.
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He proudly noted his courage in introducing himself to Mason after the game. Scarbinsky does not pick up, however, that the friendly and gregarious Mason responded to his greeting with two words. If you know Mason at all, that is telling.
I do hope those 2 words were, "Fuck off".
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I do hope those 2 words were, "Fuck off".
other responses come to mind, such as:
Eat Shit
Fuck You
Douche Bag
Bite Me
Butt Hole
Ass Hole
feel free to add more
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War Eagle