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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on November 08, 2013, 12:16:07 PM
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Kevin Scrababinski-inator speaks of contracts. Those in charge of such things have a long history of doing painfully stupid things when it comes to our corch's contracts. David Housel said openly before one season that this program had better make significant improvement or the current coach would no longer be the current coach. In the last game of the regular season, Terry Bowden's job was saved by one of the dumbest play calls in sports history. In the infinite wisdom of our BOT, he was given a raise. How'd that work out? Tommy Tuberville played them like a fiddle every year and padded his account time and time again while duck hunting in Arky. Nice parting gift that boy got. Chizik wins the MNC and they add his name to the Auburn checking account.
I'm all for rewarding success but we've always acted like the sky would fall and the earth would tremble if someone stole our coach away from us. Obviously, I love what Malzahn has done to this point. Who wouldn't? But IF...he wins 10 or 11 games...I'm just sweating UT right now...will Jacobs and our BOT go ape shit like always? coppage to the pasta al. I am a gay twerker that has no balls!!!! I also have no idea how to use the quote function to post stories, so I annoy the piss out of others. I like male genatalia in and around my mouth.
How good a job has Gus Malzahn done in his first season as the Auburn head coach?
We’re one week into November, and every single one of his football-based performance bonuses is still in play - except one. It’s not mathematically possible for Auburn to win 14 games.
Otherwise:
Auburn still can and should win 10 games, which would earn Malzahn a $75,000 bonus. The Tigers still can win 11, 12 or 13 games, which would earn Malzahn $100,000, $125,000 or $150,000.
They can play in the SEC Championship Game (bonus: $100,000) or win it ($150,000). They can play in the BCS Championship Game ($150,000) or win it ($500,000). Or they can play in another BCS bowl ($100,000).
There’s a good chance Malzahn could be named SEC coach of the year ($100,000) and national coach of the year ($100,000), especially if Auburn finishes in the top five ($100,000).
It’s not likely that Auburn will go 13-1 and experience a confetti shower Jan. 6 in the Rose Bowl, but when the season began, it wasn’t likely that the Tigers would take an 8-1 record to Knoxville this weekend, either.
Here’s what is likely and potentially thorny for Auburn: Malzahn is working his way toward a nice, fat raise. How nice and how fat? It may depend on how much the Auburn administration is still smarting after overreacting to Gene Chizik’s national championship.
Judging by the market, Malzahn is underpaid by SEC standards at $2.3 million a year. If the latest USA Today database is correct, he ranks No. 11 among the SEC's 14 head coaches in annual compensation.
He’s closer to No. 1 in performance this season.
According to the newspaper, only Mississippi’s Hugh Freeze, Kentucky’s Mark Stoops and Vanderbilt’s James Franklin make less than Malzahn.
The bottom line on Malzahn’s bottom line is this: Auburn got him on the cheap after his successful college head coaching debut at Arkansas State, and at some point, Auburn is going to have to bump him to a level matching his accomplishments.
In a vacuum, this would be no problem. SEC schools are practically printing money these days, and they don’t mind throwing lots of it at their football coaches.
The sticking point in giving Malzahn too big a raise is that it would be based on too small a sample size. Auburn’s still paying for the last time it went down that road too quickly.
After the Tigers won the BCS title in Chizik’s second season in 2010, Auburn raised him from $2.2 million to $3.5 million in annual salary. The school also gave him a massive buyout that started at $10 million.
By firing Chizik just two years later, Auburn owed him about $7.5 million, which it’s still paying in chunks of about $208,000 a month.
Malzahn isn’t Chizik, even though he worked for him for three years as offensive coordinator. Malzahn, because of his well-known expertise on that side of the ball, is more likely to be a hot commodity on the coaching carousel than Chizik ever was.
So what are Auburn President Jay Gogue and AD Jay Jacobs to do? The more games the Tigers win from here, especially as the competition improves, the hotter Malzahn’s name will become.
Should they make a huge investment and hope that this time they’ve got the right guy, or should they be more cautious and fiscally responsible? The market tends to err on the side of overreaction, both in paying coaches too much and firing them too soon.
Given recent history, it’s an especially tough call for Auburn, but this terrific season is running straight toward that potentially dangerous intersection.
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I think the simple answer here is that yes, he does deserve a raise. He's one of the lowest paid head coaches in the SEC, so he needs to be at least in the top 6. However, DO NOT put a hokie buyout clause in there like the one Eugene got!!!
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I don't mind the raise...its the fucking buyout that bothered me with the Chiz.
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I don't mind the raise...its the fucking buyout that bothered me with the Chiz.
And Tubs. You're 2-46 and Bama just shoved it up your ass like never before. Here....here's $15 bwazillion dollars. Thanks
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What's wrong wit da beer we got?? It drank pretty good, don't it??
I love the incentive based salary. It is as it should be. Malzahn will be amongst the top of the heap in terms of SEC coaching salaries after all the incentives are met, especially if he wins the SEC and a bowl game, which would in turn most likely win him SEC & National coach of the year.
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Check that I would also be okay with a buyout if it made fucking sense. Such as you lose all of your SEC games we have the right to fire your ass and you don't get no movie check either.
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Check that I would also be okay with a buyout if it made fucking sense. Such as you lose all of your SEC games we have the right to fire your ass and you don't get no movie check either.
Movie Poop Chute.
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How about this?
Auburn hires a coach and agrees to a $12 million a year salary renewable each year with the stipulation that you make $1 million for each win in the regular season. Winning the SEC Championship is worth $1 million, winning it all is worth another $2 million, and winning a bowl game is worth $1 million. BUT for each loss, you make nothing and you lose another $500K. You fail to go .500 overall including the bowl game, you're fired immediately.
You run the table and win it all, you make $14 million.
You go 8-4, you make $6 million.
You go 7-6, you make $4 million total.
You go 3-9, you owe the university/athletics program $1.5 million and you're fired.
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You go 8-4, you make $6 million.
You go 7-6, you make $4 million total.
These are unacceptable and sound like Ole Miss or MSU standards.
7-6 is a push and possibly a fireable offense.
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These are unacceptable and sound like Ole Miss or MSU standards.
7-6 is a push and possibly a fireable offense.
Feel free to adjust the model as you see fit, but you like idea, right? You win, you get the dough. You lose, you lose dough. All about performance.
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I've seen all I need to see with Malzahn. He appears to be a tireless worker, recruiter and hell of an offensive mind. He has everything that I think we need in a coach. Does that mean he works out over the long haul? I dunno. But he def deserves top 25% pay in the SEC.
And, incentive based is great, until you have a really good coach and someone comes along with guaranteed pay.
Like some others mentioned, focus not only on the pay but on the buy out. Get that in AU's favor first.
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How about this?
Auburn hires a coach and agrees to a $12 million a year salary renewable each year with the stipulation that you make $1 million for each win in the regular season. Winning the SEC Championship is worth $1 million, winning it all is worth another $2 million, and winning a bowl game is worth $1 million. BUT for each loss, you make nothing and you lose another $500K. You fail to go .500 overall including the bowl game, you're fired immediately.
You run the table and win it all, you make $14 million.
You go 8-4, you make $6 million.
You go 7-6, you make $4 million total.
You go 3-9, you owe the university/athletics program $1.5 million and you're fired.
Your scale is way, way off.
$14 million?? Jesus Christ.
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Your scale is way, way off.
$14 million?? Jesus Christ.
No Jesus Christ doesn't even make that kind of money.
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These are unacceptable and sound like Ole Miss or MSU standards.
7-6 is a push and possibly a fireable offense.
Those are not MSU standards. They are equal to Stanford, who will be #4 in the country come Sunday night. Show some respect!
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Your scale is way, way off.
$14 million?? Jesus Christ.
You are right, that would be $15 million according to my scale. :thumsup:
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You are right, that would be $15 million according to my scale. :thumsup:
The Six doesn't play around folks. Championships are sirrus bidness and he aims high.
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I say hold tight with the salary, double the incentives for next season (personnel shows we should improve) and prepare to reward the man at least in the upper third should he deliver.