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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on November 05, 2013, 10:46:15 AM
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SIAP but I haven't been on board in a few days so I haven't read all 5,000 posts yet. I have looked a bit this morning and haven't seen anything on this yet. Going off our local sports talk guy that said Corch Dye was speaking at a QB Club in Knoxville and said "The two quarterbacks who played for Auburn last year were cowards".
He's saying that was a direct quote from Dye. I don't have any idea and this guy is a flaming Bammer. Anyone seen this? Pat Dye obviously has no filter and speaks his mind on everything. If that was a direct quote, that's a problem. My personal feeling is that he probably referenced last year's team as having no guts and someone put the spin on it to say he called them cowards. But again, I haven't seen squat on it. The QB's who played last year were Kadril, Fetal and Wallace. If he did say that and was specifically talking about someone on this team, what does Malzahn do or say?
Anyone? Bueller?
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Page views Scalisci all over it.
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/11/pat_dye_calls_out_bret_bielema.html#incart_river (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/11/pat_dye_calls_out_bret_bielema.html#incart_river)
I too suspect the quote was taken out of context. We've yet to see the actual quote.
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SIAP but I haven't been on board in a few days so I haven't read all 5,000 posts yet. I have looked a bit this morning and haven't seen anything on this yet. Going off our local sports talk guy that said Corch Dye was speaking at a QB Club in Knoxville and said "The two quarterbacks who played for Auburn last year were cowards".
He's saying that was a direct quote from Dye. I don't have any idea and this guy is a flaming Bammer. Anyone seen this? Pat Dye obviously has no filter and speaks his mind on everything. If that was a direct quote, that's a problem. My personal feeling is that he probably referenced last year's team as having no guts and someone put the spin on it to say he called them cowards. But again, I haven't seen squat on it. The QB's who played last year were Kadril, Fetal and Wallace. If he did say that and was specifically talking about someone on this team, what does Malzahn do or say?
Anyone? Bueller?
Was listening to the same show on teh Tuneinz App. Kind of did a double take and was like "do whut??"
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I'm sorry, but I find it hard to believe he just called them out WWE style.
There's some context that we're not hearing, and this guy from Knoxville isn't printing.
Given the firestorm around the paraphrasing where Dye saying Condeleeza Rice knows politics, not football, somehow got twisted into "All women have no business anywhere near a football", tells me all I need to know as far as the media sensationalizing anything Auburn-related, and particularly smell chum in the water to make Dye a "crazy old coot".
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Frazier:
@kiehlfrazier25 2h
Pretty sure Pat Dye was talking about Clint and I, not Jonathan. Jonathan did the best he could in a bad situation.
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Does anyone on here know if Pat Dye has any history of drinking alcoholic beverages?
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Frazier:
If he did say it, Jacobs needs to call him (Dye) on the carpet. Hold your breath on that one. Exactly the kind of shoot we need.
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I wouldn't put it past him. The old man just speaks his mind. I don't agree with him, but you have to respect him.
It's what old people do Frank. To many fuckin babies out there in their shit filled diapers.
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If JJ didn't reign him in during the last year or so, he's not going to now.
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I heard it yesterday too. Still waiting for context...but damn. Clint? Most definitely true. KF? Not a coward...just not good.
I love love LOVE Coach Dye, but I think this is bullshit if he did say it in this context. Fuck Clint, but KF is still on the team and doing his best to contribute. Tough to be an Auburn man when Auburn royalty is calling you out. And props to him for handling it with class and trying to make sure no one thought it was Wallace.
I'm going to reserve judgment until I see it in print.....but sometimes, old people need to stay in the car.
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I heard it yesterday too. Still waiting for context...but damn. Clint? Most definitely true. KF? Not a coward...just not good.
I love love LOVE Coach Dye, but I think this is bullshit if he did say it in this context. Fuck Clint, but KF is still on the team and doing his best to contribute. Tough to be an Auburn man when Auburn royalty is calling you out. And props to him for handling it with class and trying to make sure no one thought it was Wallace.
I'm going to reserve judgment until I see it in print.....but sometimes, old people need to stay in the car.
My cinnamints exactly.
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I wouldn't put it past him. The old man just speaks his mind. I don't agree with him, but you have to respect him.
It's what old people do Frank. To many fudgein babies out there in their shoot filled diapers.
I definitely respect what he did for AU. I do not respect the way that he meddles and seems to have a knack for FREQUENTLY saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.
He has no accountability. If he doesn't wish to still be associated with AU, then he can say whatever in the hell he wants to. Problem is, he still promotes the idea that he IS still deeply connected with AU. As far as I know, he's still on the payroll but regardless, that perception exists.
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Still haven't read the actual quote or seen the context.
Could have been this -
"Hey Coach, do you think the team gave up last year once things got tough?"
"Oh certainly. Definitely looked like they gave up."
"What do you have to say about their change from last year to this year particularly with the improvement in the quarterback play?"
"Well, if they gave up last year, I'd say they were cowards but have grown into good football players."
Until they release what he said, I'll go ahead and assume my version is the right one.
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I'm going to reserve judgment until I see it in print.....but sometimes, old people need to stay in the car.
Fuck that they are worse drivers...they need to be put down.
Then we wouldn't have to hear second hand BiL stories.
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Fuck that they are worse drivers...they need to be put down.
Then we wouldn't have to hear second hand BiL stories.
Consider that bitch choked
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I heard it yesterday too. Still waiting for context...but damn. Clint? Most definitely true. KF? Not a coward...just not good.
I love love LOVE Coach Dye, but I think this is bullshoot if he did say it in this context. fudge Clint, but KF is still on the team and doing his best to contribute. Tough to be an Auburn man when Auburn royalty is calling you out. And props to him for handling it with class and trying to make sure no one thought it was Wallace.
I'm going to reserve judgment until I see it in print.....but sometimes, old people need to stay in the car.
He was probably talking about that turtle. He was a coward.
Frazeer was just not good.
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He was probably talking about that turtle. He was a coward.
Frazeer was just not good.
Maybe the old man was inadvertently just lumping them all in with the turtle?
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Maybe he was talking about the Scarbinsky articles and they misunderstood his "l" for a "w" in "cowards"?
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Hey, don't look now, but Auburn is good again...
Someone, go interview Pat Dye, ASAP...ask him about certain players from last year.
Que Auburn scandal story.
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Hey, did you guys hear about Cam Newton's dad talking money with MSU?
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I really don't get what the big deal is. I understand Auburn is 8-1 and this the kinda shit the media starts to circulate when Auburn starts to look like it will threaten the updykes but lets be honest. PFD remarks about Mosely and Frazier pail in comparison to the stuff that was said about them last year by pretty much the entire fanbase. And lets not even bring up the guy who has 25+ starts at MLB with 3 different DC's pretty much telling us he is our best option. Im not climbing up on a high horse just pointing out the obvious. And yes I know the guys name is on the field. However I also know if it was me or even my son suiting up I could probably handle an old former coach who has been known to put his foot in his mouth from time to time say something bad about me rather than having a majority of the fanbase on the internet talk shit about me constantly. No need throw PFD under the Gus Bus for shit the entire fanbase does.
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You people stay off of Fain's ass!
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Pawl, Pawl. Old Dye always talkin' bout gettin the ph level checked in his pond but nobody ever does it. Theys somethin aint right about that pond Pawl and we need to get to the bottom of it. Thisll expose them Aubies for the cheaters and cowards that they really are Pawl. I hang up an lissen.
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Hey, don't look now, but Auburn is good again...
Someone, go interview Pat Dye, ASAP...ask him about certain players from last year.
Que Auburn scandal story.
Between now and November 29 you will also see a story mentioning Bowden's alleged "black book"
It is inevitable.
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Between now and November 29 you will also see a story mentioning Bowden's alleged "black book"
It is inevitable.
Yes but will we get to hear how Corch Dye lost his shorts on lake Martin?
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Yes but will we get to hear how Corch Dye lost his shorts on lake Martin?
I suspect a swarm of bees attacked the corch but he doesn't remember how it happened. I can't remember the specific details of each time I've lost my pants either. I mean, come on. You can't remember every single mundane part of a boat ride.
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Not to worry! Evan Woodberry to provide context!
http://knoxblogs.com/evanseleven/2013/11/06/pat-dyes-full-comments-auburns-cowards-quarterback-2012/ (http://knoxblogs.com/evanseleven/2013/11/06/pat-dyes-full-comments-auburns-cowards-quarterback-2012/)
Pat Dye’s full comments on Auburn’s ‘cowards’ at quarterback in 2012
Pat Dye and Auburn mascot Aubie (Associated Press photo)
KNOXVILLE, Tennessee — Former Auburn coach Pat Dye‘s inflammatory comments to the Knoxville Quarterback Club on Monday caused only a ripple of interest here.
But in Alabama, Dye’s words were big news.
There wasn’t much context to Dye’s comments on Auburn’s quarterbacks in 2012. I’m told his talk was somewhat rambling. But we asked Gage Arnold, our intern who was covering the event, to transcribe the full passage from Dye’s comments.
“We had two last year — Mr. Footballs….Cut that thing off a minute… (laughter)…You got it off?â€
(Dye is speaking to a TV reporter with a camera in the back of the room.)
“We had two last year and they both were cowards. Cowards. How can you win with a coward at quarterback? Now one of them might have been a coward mentally, and there’s a difference between being a coward mentally and a coward physically. If you’re a coward physically you’ve got no chance to overcome that, but you can grow up from being a coward mentally. But it didn’t happen so we had no chance.â€
Dye, who turns 74 today, won four SEC titles at Auburn from 1981 to 1992. The field at Jordan-Hare Stadium is named in his honor.
AL.com columnist Kevin Scarbinsky wrote Dye had attached “one of the worst insults imaginable to young men who suited up for (his) school.â€
Dye told AL.com that he had apologized privately to Kiehl Frazier, one of three quarterbacks on last year’s team.
Frazier’s dad accepted the apology.
@AUQBDad
Coach Dye is a great man. Forgiveness will never be withheld when sought in earnest. I've needed many second chances. Everyone move on.
That wasn’t the only interesting thing that Dye said on Monday.
On the 2012 team as a whole:
“I’ve been in football since 1952, started playing in eighth grade in 1952 and 2012 was the worst year in my football life at Auburn. I’ve never been sick of seeing kids quit.â€
On Arkansas and Bret Bielema:
“You know, Bielema at Arkansas, you know, he needs to keep his mouth shut. I don’t know what it is. He wants to slow the game down, he wants to do this, he wants to do this, he wants to do that…. But anyway, they came out in the swinging gate on a field goal formation and ended up throwing for a first down at the 1-yard line. They didn’t score cause we held them four downs at the 1-yard line.â€
Scarbinksy wrote that it’s Dye who needs to watch what he says — or say nothing at all.
“Increasingly, he comes across, not as a legendary former football coach, but as a retired crank who can’t let go of the spotlight. It’s past time for him to let it go, to be admired for what he did, not reviled for what he’s said.â€
Were Dye’s quotes “off the record?†The short answer is no. A speaker in front of hundreds of people cannot unilaterally declare something off the record. In this case, Dye didn’t even attempt to do so. He merely asked someone to turn off a camera. The Knoxville Quarterback Club is a widely attended, widely publicized event held in a public place. Media are always present and report on the weekly speaker’s comments.
Here’s an interview conducted with Dye after his speech.
http://youtu.be/MBKzX4G6U8I (http://youtu.be/MBKzX4G6U8I)
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Having seen the context, yes, it was bad coming from a man in his position.
Is it as bad as anything 99% of the fanbase said about the QBs last year and/or Holland this year? No. But Dye, for better or worse, should be above saying shit like that publicly.
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Dye told AL.com that he had apologized privately to Kiehl Frazier, one of three quarterbacks on last year’s team.
I bet after this Scarbo asked him if he apologized to Clint. I also would bet that Dye just responded with a Clint Eastwood level squint and staredown.
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Way too many people in this world (that are not women) wear panties.
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I wish someone would ask Dye about Holland.
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I wish someone would ask Dye about Holland.
Now THAT, I'd like to hear.
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Way too many people in this world (that are not women) wear panties.
Look...it was just that one time. That hot chick from the gym told me that if I would wear her thongs she would...oh wait. I agree!
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Way too many people in this world (that are not women) wear panties.
Look, I was young and needed the money.
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Way too many people in this world (that are not women) wear panties.
Look, I just like the way it feels. Makes me feel like a pretty, pretty, princess, ok? Let's not make this a gay thing.
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Way too many people in this world (that are not women) wear panties.
This is none of your concern and I like the look and feel of fishnet.
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Look, I just like the way it feels. Makes me feel like a pretty, pretty, princess, ok? Let's not make this a gay thing.
Just curious but does the lace tickle your balls? The only time I tried to put some on, the lady at Wal-Mart gave me dirty looks whenever I asked where the dressing room was. Started to tell the old bitch to go to hell but since she goes to church with my in-laws, I thought better of it and just left. Didn't need my in-laws to know I cuss like that.
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Just curious but does the lace tickle your balls? The only time I tried to put some on, the lady at Wal-Mart gave me dirty looks whenever I asked where the dressing room was. Started to tell the old bitch to go to hell but since she goes to church with my in-laws, I thought better of it and just left. Didn't need my in-laws to know I cuss like that.
I don't wear them to church but yes, they do tickle some.
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Just curious but does the lace tickle your balls? The only time I tried to put some on, the lady at Wal-Mart gave me dirty looks whenever I asked where the dressing room was. Started to tell the old bitch to go to hell but since she goes to church with my in-laws, I thought better of it and just left. Didn't need my in-laws to know I cuss like that.
I can't answer that for you.
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Having seen the context, yes, it was bad coming from a man in his position.
Is it as bad as anything 99% of the fanbase said about the QBs last year and/or Holland this year? No. But Dye, for better or worse, should be above saying shit like that publicly.
Last word is key! You hit the nail in the head! Problem with getting old...your "thought to word filter" malfunctions. Blame it on being pickled too if you want. Old fuckers say all kinds of shit they ought not say, or at least ought not say when or where they say it. Fact that it was/is the truth is not a defense in this case. What to do about it? Well, shut the old man up. Which as been needed at times for a long time. Don't guess anybody will do that.
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Last word is key! You hit the nail in the head! Problem with getting old...your "thought to word filter" malfunctions. Blame it on being pickled too if you want. Old fuckers say all kinds of shit they ought not say, or at least ought not say when or where they say it. Fact that it was/is the truth is not a defense in this case. What to do about it? Well, shut the old man up. Which as been needed at times for a long time. Don't guess anybody will do that.
Fuck you. I'll say what I want.
Whipper snapper.
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Way too many people in this world (that are not women) wear panties.
That's the problem with sleeping with big girls. You get up in the morning and you're in a hurry, so you just grab underwear and throw them on and hit the door. They fit OK, so you don't think too much about it. It's not until later in the day you realize something's not right, and you have to start questioning a lot of things about your life to that point...
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That's the problem with sleeping with big girls. You get up in the morning and you're in a hurry, so you just grab underwear and throw them on and hit the door. They fit OK, so you don't think too much about it. It's not until later in the day you realize something's not right, and you have to start questioning a lot of things about your life to that point...
You've got questions, I've got your answers.