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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: wesfau2 on October 09, 2013, 09:04:40 AM
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Never to Yield drops a fucking nuke:
http://www.nevertoyieldfoundation.com/2013/where-theres-fire-theres-fire/ (http://www.nevertoyieldfoundation.com/2013/where-theres-fire-theres-fire/)
Wow...it's shocking when you see all the cheating laid out with evidence.
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Damn dude. Kudos to whoever put that shit together!
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Damn!!!!!
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Isolated incidents, I can assure you.
Whomever writes that stuff is the :tits:
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/10/08/alabama-illegal-benefits-case-spotlights-ncaa-mark-emmert-nick-saban-friendship/2948023/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2013/10/08/alabama-illegal-benefits-case-spotlights-ncaa-mark-emmert-nick-saban-friendship/2948023/)
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http://capstonereport.com/2013/10/08/never-yield-foundation-illustrate-fanatical-desperation/22336/ (http://capstonereport.com/2013/10/08/never-yield-foundation-illustrate-fanatical-desperation/22336/)
And that's what everyone else thinks to.
Like it or not, folks, we are never going to win a crap throwing contest against a well-trained group of monkeys. Ride it out. That's all we can do. All else is futile.
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http://capstonereport.com/2013/10/08/never-yield-foundation-illustrate-fanatical-desperation/22336/ (http://capstonereport.com/2013/10/08/never-yield-foundation-illustrate-fanatical-desperation/22336/)
And that's what everyone else thinks to.
Like it or not, folks, we are never going to win a crap throwing contest against a well-trained group of monkeys. Ride it out. That's all we can do. All else is futile.
Fuck that pussy-assed, defeatist attitude.
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fudge that pussy-assed, defeatist attitude.
I'm afraid it is the reality. Call it "pussy-assed" if you like, but you only prove what the naysayers are chanting. Why feed the beast that barks we are "fringe" I ask you? To what good will it do?
I'd rather watch this team/staff progress and hope for better days.
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http://capstonereport.com/2013/10/08/never-yield-foundation-illustrate-fanatical-desperation/22336/ (http://capstonereport.com/2013/10/08/never-yield-foundation-illustrate-fanatical-desperation/22336/)
And that's what everyone else thinks to.
Like it or not, folks, we are never going to win a crap throwing contest against a well-trained group of monkeys. Ride it out. That's all we can do. All else is futile.
The Capstone Report calling NtYF butt-munchers is much more reputable than all of the links they provided.
Also more reputable than USAA that basically wrote much of the same stuff shortly after the NtYF thing was published.
They scared.
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Load of turds (http://capstonereport.com/2013/10/08/never-yield-foundation-illustrate-fanatical-desperation/22336/)
And that's what everyone else thinks to.
Like it or not, folks, we are never going to win a crap throwing contest against a well-trained group of monkeys. Ride it out. That's all we can do. All else is futile.
Are you drunk?
You're linking the crackpot, lunatic, fringe of the fringe "CRAPSTONE" EFFING REPORT as what everybody thinks?
Get that !@#$*&* out of here.
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Crapstone calling any site lunatic fringe is astonishing to me.
and why do you read that shit?
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Crapstone calling any site lunatic fringe is astonishing to me.
and why do you read that shoot?
Twas sent to me. Not a place I'd bother with otherwise. And that sentiment is throughout mainstream media. They don't post pictures of manure, but they say the same undertones in all the "this is not the same as Auburn's Cam situation" and "these poor athletes" articles, columns, TV appearances, et. al.
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Nice and truthful Article. Won't change a damn thing. :facepalm:
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Twas sent to me. Not a place I'd bother with otherwise. And that sentiment is throughout mainstream media. They don't post pictures of manure, but they say the same undertones in all the "this is not the same as Auburn's Cam situation" and "these poor athletes" articles, columns, TV appearances, et. al.
So change the sentiment.
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http://capstonereport.com/2013/10/08/never-yield-foundation-illustrate-fanatical-desperation/22336/ (http://capstonereport.com/2013/10/08/never-yield-foundation-illustrate-fanatical-desperation/22336/)
And that's what everyone else thinks to.
Like it or not, folks, we are never going to win a crap throwing contest against a well-trained group of monkeys. Ride it out. That's all we can do. All else is futile.
That and wipe the floor with their asses come November.
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Nice work. And the USA Today piece was at least something in the mainstream but call me when Outside The Lines covers or ESPN reports or the NCAA is in T-town actually investigating (not having dinner with the Sabans). I'll be waiting.
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Ride it out. That's all we can do. All else is futile.
(http://seattletimes.com/art/mlk/index.jpg)
Yep. You're right. Ride it out. Things will never change.
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Nice work. And the USA Today piece was at least something in the mainstream but call me when Outside The Lines covers or ESPN reports or the NCAA is in T-town actually investigating (not having dinner with the Sabans). I'll be waiting.
I wouldn't hold your breath. As that article clearly illustrates, they're protecting their sacred cow.
That in and of itself is entirely the problem worthy of blowback.
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(http://seattletimes.com/art/mlk/index.jpg)
Yep. You're right. Ride it out. Things will never change.
Dumbest comparison I've ever seen. Borderline offensive. Football cheatin' and civil rights reform are not in the same ballpark. Not even close.
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Dumbest comparison I've ever seen. Borderline offensive. Football cheatin' and civil rights reform are not in the same ballpark. Not even close.
No, no. He's saying MLK was cheatin' and Auburn's civil rights have been violated.
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Dumbest comparison I've ever seen. Borderline offensive. Football cheatin' and civil rights reform are not in the same ballpark. Not even close.
You are a bammer.
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No, no. He's saying MLK was cheatin' and Auburn's civil rights have been violated.
What he said.
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You are a bammer.
Whatever. No way you can justify either leap of logic in your post or his.
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No, no. He's saying MLK was cheatin' and Auburn's civil rights have been violated.
Now this was *snicker* worthy.
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Whatever. No way you can justify either leap of logic in your post or his.
Don't even start, you can't question Kaos on his similes, hyperboles, or metaphors. He's a f'n writer man who knows more than all of us about everything.
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Don't even start, you can't question Kaos on his similes, hyperboles, or metaphors. He's a f'n writer man who knows more than all of us about everything.
95%
I know, I know: 220...221...whatever it takes.
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I wouldn't hold your breath. As that article clearly illustrates, they're protecting their sacred cow.
That in and of itself is entirely the problem worthy of blowback.
Who's giving the blowback? When and where?
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Who's giving the blowback? When and where?
Blow is just an expression...got gotsa suck that mutha.
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Blow is just an expression...got gotsa suck that mutha.
It's ok to use teeth, but you don't want to be a biter.
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Dumbest comparison I've ever seen. Borderline offensive. Football cheatin' and civil rights reform are not in the same ballpark. Not even close.
At least it was borderline. If was going for full on offensive I'd have used pictures of !#@$( from the (!@#$%!@#$%.
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At least it was borderline. If was going for full on offensive I'd have used pictures of !#@$( from the (!@#$%!@#$%.
How dare you compare this to Q-Bert.
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Drip...
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http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/10/9/4819820/alabama-ncaa-nick-saban-mark-emmert (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2013/10/9/4819820/alabama-ncaa-nick-saban-mark-emmert)
The NCAA's many problems: Perception clouds Alabama issue
By Adam Jacobi @Adam_Jacobi on Oct 9 2013, 11:22a 12
Kevin C. Cox
The NCAA has an Alabama problem. Or it's really a Nick Saban problem. Or it's really a perception problem. Or it's really all, some, or none of those. Sound confusing? It is.
Let's back up: the NCAA probably has to do something about former Alabama tackle (and current chokeslam supermonster) D.J. Fluker and others allegedly accepting substantial amounts of money from agents while still in college. You can't not investigate that, after all.
What involvement Alabama should have? Well, we'll see; that's what the investigation's for, after all. But still—that's Alabama, the undisputed top program in the nation, embroiled in a potentially major improper benefits scandal.
There's your Alabama problem.
Complicating things substantially is Nick Saban's connection to multiple people in charge at the NCAA. As USA Today reports, Saban's boss at LSU was one Mark Emmert, now the president of the NCAA, and lest anybody think that relationship was anything but chummy, check out Saban's quote from his LSU days:
"Chancellor Emmert is absolutely the best boss I've ever had," Saban said at LSU in 2004. "He's the most significant reason I was interested in the job. Never once has he disappointed me."
There's your Nick Saban problem.
The connections don't end there, as Derrick Crawford, the director of enforcement at the NCAA is himself an Alabama graduate and in March spoke of perceiving an NCAA bias against his school. Crawford said that there isn't one, and that the NCAA doesn't target schools, but of course the director of enforcement says that, you know?
So while Crawford will almost certainly recuse himself from the process of determining what, if any, punishments the NCAA will mete out to Alabama, he can still act as a liaison to help Alabama stay compliant elsewhere and thus avoid further punishment, much as former head of committee on infractions head Gene Marsh (himself an Alabama faculty member) helped the Tide a decade ago when it faced serious sanctions. This, too, from USA Today:
In the end, the NCAA hit Alabama with penalties that included a two-year postseason ban, five years probation and the loss of 21 scholarships. Yet Tom Yeager, then-chairman of the infractions committee, declared that it could have been worse if not for Marsh and Alabama's compliance director, Marie Robbins.
The efforts of Marsh and Robbins "not only saved the university from the death penalty but also more serious sanctions that would have been imposed," Yeager said then.
In other words, the NCAA is coming right out and saying that having someone on the inside can help soften the blow. And once again Alabama's got someone.
Compounding matters is that the NCAA infractions committee quite famously deliberates privately on matters of sanctions and doesn't follow strict, rigid guidelines for the punishments it hands out. There's no example of X infraction getting you Y sanction, for example. The committee issues lengthy reports along with its sanctions, but again the dialogue with the public is pretty much one-sided.
Thus, it's very, very difficult for fans to look at the NCAA's process for sanctions and see any rhyme or reason to the punishments handed out, and in the absence of that "A to B to C" road map, fans necessarily fill in the dots their own way, whether it's fair or not, and that can erode public trust in the NCAA.
There's your perception problem.
And somewhere in this morass, the actual question of what to do about D.J. Fluker receiving improper benefits twists in the gales of hot air about Alabama and the NCAA and public opinion.
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"Chancellor Emmert is absolutely the best boss I've ever had," Saban said at LSU in 2004. "He's the most significant reason I was interested in the job. Never once has he disappointed me."
Until now.
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No, no. He's saying MLK was cheatin' and Auburn's civil rights have been violated.
I thought he was suggesting that someone with the NTYF was going to catch a 30.06 round in the face.
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I thought he was suggesting that someone with the NTYF was going to catch a 30.06 round in the face.
woah woah woah...are you threatening someone sir?
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Not sure if posted yet, but anywho: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1804256-alabamas-in-a-tough-spot-with-nick-sabans-relationship-with-mark-emmert (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1804256-alabamas-in-a-tough-spot-with-nick-sabans-relationship-with-mark-emmert)
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Not sure if posted yet, but anywho: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1804256-alabamas-in-a-tough-spot-with-nick-sabans-relationship-with-mark-emmert (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1804256-alabamas-in-a-tough-spot-with-nick-sabans-relationship-with-mark-emmert)
I'm going to need a copy/paste...I refuse to give that shit hole my traffic.
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I'm going to need a copy/paste...I refuse to give that shoot hole my traffic.
Alabama's in a Tricky Spot with Nick Saban's Relationship with Mark Emmert
By
Barrett Sallee
(SEC Football Lead Writer) on October 9, 2013
The NCAA is squarely in the crosshairs of the public after its seemingly haphazard enforcement of its rules, the inability or refusal to properly compensate players and an archaic and lengthy rulebook.
That may come to a head soon, if the NCAA does dig deeper into the University of Alabama. As Brent Schrotenboer of USA Today points out, Alabama head coach Nick Saban has a longtime relationship with NCAA president Mark Emmert; and Alabama has two potential extra benefits cases on its hands.
In September, Yahoo! Sports revealed that four former and one current SEC player received extra benefits including cash from financial advisers and agents, funneled through former Crimson Tide defensive lineman Luther Davis.
One of those players was former Alabama All-American offensive tackle D.J. Fluker, who played for the Tide from 2009 to 2012. One of those agents, according to Yahoo! Sports, is Alabama alum John Phillips.
Just last week, star safety HaHa Clinton-Dix was suspended indefinitely from the program for taking a loan from assistant strength and conditioning coach Corey Harris, according to a report from the Tuscaloosa News. Clinton-Dix received the loan after his 2012 Dodge Charger was broken into and an iPad, cash, speakers and various items of clothing were stolen.
While the Clinton-Dix suspension stems from an internal investigation and there is nothing official from the NCAA's end yet, essentially having a runner on staff will certainly draw its attention.
As Schrotenboer points out, that will test personal relationships that date back more than a decade.
NCAA president Mark Emmert and Alabama head coach Nick Saban have a long relationship, dating back to 2001, when Emmert—then the chancellor of LSU—hired Saban away from Michigan State to be the head coach of the Tigers.
Saban commented on his relationship with Emmert in 2004, according to Schrotenboer:
"Chancellor Emmert is absolutely the best boss I've ever had. He's the most significant reason I was interested in the job. Never once has he disappointed me."
That's not exactly breaking news. Saban's relationship with Emmert is well-chronicled.
However, with Alabama now the subject of two rather important extra benefits cases—one of which includes a player, Fluker, who could be ruled ineligible during the 2012 national title season—there's really nowhere for the program to hide if Saban's relationship with Emmert remains at the forefront of the public eye.
Schrotenboer points out that, by rule, NCAA officials with connections to schools or individuals under investigation are recused from the process to prevent bias.
At least, in theory.
However, the high-profile nature of Alabama, the recent success on the game's biggest stages and the focus on the NCAA's rather subjective enforcement of its rules makes this a perfect storm for the NCAA to play things above board and earn back some trust from the public.
That could come at the expense of Alabama.
Cooperation is always key for the NCAA, and Alabama certainly appears—as evidenced by the Clinton-Dix suspension—to be taking a proactive stance.
That will help.
However, if they dig deeper, will Alabama's cooperation or public perception matter more to the NCAA?
Schrotenboer's story on the relationship between Saban and Emmert only brings the relationship back to the forefront, which will put more pressure on the NCAA to take steps to prevent any perception of bias during a critical time of its existence.
Sure, the relationship between Saban and Emmert could protect Alabama—and probably would have in year's past.
But it's a different time now.
The NCAA is searching to maintain relevancy in a time in which its relevancy is eroding. One way to do so would to ensure that all investigations are based solely on facts, wherever they lead. Especially a potential investigation involving the reigning champs.
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Thank you.
What is this shit about bama being "proactive" in the Dix case? They were on fucking notice the very moment a member of the coaching staff gave money to a player. Any lapse of time between that transfer, whether it was a second or a year, negates any claim of "proactive" action on their part. They are imputed knowledge of the violation by virtue of the staff member's involvement.
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Thank you.
What is this shit about bama being "proactive" in the Dix case? They were on fucking notice the very moment a member of the coaching staff gave money to a player. Any lapse of time between that transfer, whether it was a second or a year, negates any claim of "proactive" action on their part. They are imputed knowledge of the violation by virtue of the staff member's involvement.
Listen to this man. I hear he's good with the bar.
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Listen to this man. I hear he's good with the bar.
Don't you mean pole?
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Don't you mean pole?
What's the difference between the bar exam and a gay bar?
VV can pass the bar exam without stopping
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What's the difference between the bar exam and a gay bar?
VV can pass the bar exam without stopping
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