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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Godfather on October 08, 2013, 11:44:30 AM
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Auburn football: QB-turned-safety Frazier switches to wide receiver
AUBURN — A short stint on defense is over for Kiehl Frazier. The former Auburn quarterbackturned-safety is now a wide receiver for the Tigers.
It’s been a season of dramatic changes for Frazier, who changed positions to safety after being eliminated from the quarterback competition in fall camp. He had very few reps on the defensive side and has lined up at quarterback on a handful of occasions, with some handoffs and two carries for three yards.
“I don’t know if I can say there’s not any scenario that would send him back to defense, but he’s definitely going to be heavily on the offensive side,†Auburn offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee said. “Kiehl gives us that flexibility. He can play in the slot, he can play outside like Kodi Burns kind of did when he ended up making the move. At the same time, you can put him in the backfield, and he’s a run and a pass threat. :rofl: It’s not like snapping it to a guy that you know can’t throw it. He’s a guy that can run the football and throw the football, so he gives us a lot of versatility.â€
Auburn lost receiver Jaylon Denson for the season to a leg injury suffered in the opening drive against LSU. The Tigers were further limited with bigger blocking receivers on Saturday due to a minor injury to C.J. Uzomah, who has not caught a pass since the game-winning touchdown against Mississippi State.
“Kiehl is a big, physical guy. He knows our system. So you can plug him in, and in two weeks’ time, he may not know all the nuances of wide receiver, but he has a good idea of the scheme because he’s played quarterback in it,†Lashlee said. “Kiehl will continue to be a part of what we’re doing out there, and it’ll also be good to get C.J. back.â€
Frazier had one reception last season, a 33-yard touchdown catch against ULM on a trick play thrown by receiver Quan Bray. The 6-foot-2, 224-pound junior is now the heaviest active receiver on the Auburn roster and among the tallest.
Frazier had 76 carries for 327 yards with three touchdowns as a freshman in Gus Malzahn’s hurry-up, no-huddle offense.
“We know what we’re getting with Kiehl,†Malzahn said. “He’s a solid guy, he understands our offense, and he’s got a chance to really help us.â€
Frazier won the starting quarterback job before the 2012 season but was one of the statistically worst passers in the country before being pulled at halftime against Arkansas in the fifth game of the season. He went 62-for-116 for 753 yards with two touchdowns and eight interceptions with 42 carries for minus-35 yards last season.
Discuss...probably a smarter move for him IMO.
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It didn't say exactly what kind of threat he would be.
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It didn't say exactly what kind of threat he would be.
He went 62-for-116 for 753 yards with two touchdowns and eight interceptions with 42 carries for minus-35 yards last season.
Does this clear it up?
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He went 62-for-116 for 753 yards with two touchdowns and eight interceptions with 42 carries for minus-35 yards last season.
Does this clear it up?
He's a wildcat aficionado
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Time to earn it. He' s the biggest, so its time to learn to go across the middle. The way he dances from contact, I don't see this happening, ever.
Another "good Auburn man" taking up a another guy's spot.
Jury is out. maybe he can make a few catches like his predecessor and have the whole AU family gush over him too.
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He went 62-for-116 for 753 yards with two touchdowns and eight interceptions with 42 carries for minus-35 yards last season.
Does this clear it up?
So, he ran the wrong way? This could maybe be corrected with something as simple as a wrist compass. And not letting him throw it, of course.
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Time to earn it. He' s the biggest, so its time to learn to go across the middle. The way he dances from contact, I don't see this happening, ever.
Another "good Auburn man" taking up a another guy's spot.
Jury is out. maybe he can make a few catches like his predecessor and have the whole AU family gush over him too.
I see sidelines in his near future.
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Jury is out. maybe he can make a few catches like his predecessor and have the whole AU family gush over him too.
At least his predecessor was willing to block. If he is willing to do that and make the opposing D-coord take 10 minutes out of practice to remind his D-backs that they might need to expect some sort of double pass when he's on the field he might be worth something.
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I saw him coming off the field several times on Saturday night on offense and couldn't figure out why.
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At least his predecessor was willing to block. If he is willing to do that and make the opposing D-coord take 10 minutes out of practice to remind his D-backs that they might need to expect some sort of double pass when he's on the field he might be worth something.
His predecessor also scored the go ahead touchdown in the National Championship game....that gives him a lifetime pass in my book. Gush on that.
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At least his predecessor was willing to block. If he is willing to do that and make the opposing D-coord take 10 minutes out of practice to remind his D-backs that they might need to expect some sort of double pass when he's on the field he might be worth something.
One can miss the open receiver and the other throw an interception?
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Let's just hope he can catch the damn football when it's thrown to him. I'm fucking tired of dropped passes.
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I recall watching a practice in 2011 and they ran a play several times where the QB would come down the line to the left and flip it out to a receiver like a reverse, but the receiver immediately threw it to another WR going down the right side. They were using either Uzomabaden or Fulse to throw the pass. One of them played some QB in high school. Can't recall which one. I say that because I know they've got it in the playbook, but the question is:
A.) Do you use one of those two and keep the element of surprise, or:
2.) Do you use Klapeel when the defense would be watching for some trickeration since he's a former QB, or:
III.) Would it be a wasted play to use Kwajile since he can't hit the broad side of my ass from 5 yards away?
Things to ponder....
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I recall watching a practice in 2011 and they ran a play several times where the QB would come down the line to the left and flip it out to a receiver like a reverse, but the receiver immediately threw it to another WR going down the right side. They were using either Uzomabaden or Fulse to throw the pass. One of them played some QB in high school. Can't recall which one. I say that because I know they've got it in the playbook, but the question is:
A.) Do you use one of those two and keep the element of surprise, or:
2.) Do you use Klapeel when the defense would be watching for some trickeration since he's a former QB, or:
III.) Would it be a wasted play to use Kwajile since he can't hit the broad side of my ass from 5 yards away?
Things to ponder....
It was Uzimota
a) It should work either way if Kaleel is used at WR more anyway
Deux) The defense would probably be looking for the pick anyway.
F) Probably
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His predecessor also scored the go ahead touchdown in the National Championship game....that gives him a lifetime pass in my book. Gush on that.
Yep. Kodi wasn't a charity case at WR.
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His predecessor also scored the go ahead touchdown in the National Championship game....that gives him a lifetime pass in my book. Gush on that.
Well good for you. Yes he did catch it, but there were other times during the year that he was not catching or getting open. Lucky for us we had Cam and did not need EERY tool in the shed.
Times are different now. If Kadrila can do the job, then great. I just don't feel we need another "Auburn Man" taking the place of someone who can do the job.
Time will tell. One thing is for certain, he won;t get the chance to be in the right place at the right time during a national championship game this year!
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Kodi was one hell of an athlete. I think Keeheel is too. Just not suited for QB at this level any more than Kodi was. But, letting him run with the WR group means nothing more to me than the corches seeing if he might be able to help them. I'd rather have him there than in the Mildcat.
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Kodi was one hell of an athlete. I think Keeheel is too. Just not suited for QB at this level any more than Kodi was. But, letting him run with the WR group means nothing more to me than the corches seeing if he might be able to help them. I'd rather have him there than in the Mildcat.
Of course. But with him still on offense, it looks like his role in the mildcat is preserved!
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The biggest question that begs to be answered is why Kadleeheel was not in the mildcat late in the 4th quarter Saturday night when it was obvious Marshall couldn't run?
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The biggest question that begs to be answered is why Kadleeheel was not in the mildcat late in the 4th quarter Saturday night when it was obvious Marshall couldn't run?
I don't think they want him handling the ball in a pressure situation.
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Kodi was a pretty damn good blocker too, which is rarely recognized but very important. But, I just did that, so there.
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Kodi was a pretty damn good blocker too, which is rarely recognized but very important. But, I just did that, so there.
WT....where are you? I'm still standing here by the concession stand by the section 2 entrance. I have on orange and blue. Are you almost here yet?
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Kodi was a pretty damn good blocker too, which is rarely recognized but very important. But, I just did that, so there.
It was recognized about 14 posts back.
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It was recognized about 14 posts back.
Yeah but it really doesn't carry much weight until I say it.
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I saw him coming off the field several times on Saturday night on offense and couldn't figure out why.
He was coming off the field because he wasn't supposed to be out there - duh
Actually, a better blocking WR is important since Jaylon Denson was the best at blocking and he is out for the season
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I don't think they want him handling the ball in a pressure situation.
Yeah, because handling a ball or balls in a pressure situation can only be fun for one person.
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Yeah, because handling a ball or balls in a pressure situation can only be fun for one person.
Are you guys saying his skillz are lacking and that he is basically just a warm body?
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Are you guys saying his skillz are lacking and that he is basically just a warm body?
No
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We are currently anything but a vertical offense.
More of a dink and dunk with several shots to Coates. A few get to Davis and Bray and the rest are wide receiver screens as with Louis. Fulse is a once a game change of pace and Uzomah has three total receptions.
Mason is the best threat out of the backfield but we have no fucking idea if Grant or Artis-Payne can catch due to the nature of our play calling. And that's fucked up if anyone here can recall Auburn "blocking back" William Andrews.
Jay Prosch has a couple of grabs. Trovon Reed has 5 catches in three games.
After that we have seldom used Tony Stevens (true FR.) and Melvin Ray.
Might as well deploy Frazier.
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Might as well deploy Frazier.
Hmmm. Are you saying he is a bomb waiting to explode?
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Hmmm. Are you saying he is a bomb waiting to explode?
I would be happy not to see one solitary screen pass or home run ball against W. Carolina where we actually have to play pitch and catch. If not, might as well let Wallace play and give Nick the day off.
I don't care about the score.
Frazier will probably block well enough and catch a few balls the rest of the way.
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Might as well deploy Frazier.
I think that sending him to Iraq or Afghanistan is ludicrous to even bring up, even if a joke. I was not pleased with some of his decisions last year but I think that shipping him overseas is preposterous.
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I think that sending him to Iraq or Afghanistan is ludicrous to even bring up, even if a joke. I was not pleased with some of his decisions last year but I think that shipping him overseas is preposterous.
Besides I don't think the Gubment has any money to do that.
And speaking from experience I would not want him in my unit.
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Damn, you get Krafeel on mortar detail and he'll lob that shit into his own camp.
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Damn, you get Krafeel on mortar detail and he'll lob that shit into his own camp.
His hand grenade toss would not impress either.
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Besides I don't think the Gubment has any money to do that.
And speaking from experience I would not want him in my unit.
And the Gap Band starts playing in my head....
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And the Gap Band starts playing in my head....
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