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Title: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 15, 2013, 12:48:51 AM
- We're going to start getting some bruises soon, but Holland by God, we got our first SEC win since 2011. 

- Did anyone catch the Malzahns at Waffle House?  What did Gus order? 

- Like some Holland were arguing last week about a win over Arkansas State, Auburn should always beat Mississippi State.  In the juggernaut division that is the SEC West, losing to a Mississippi is a sure fire way to kill your season.  We're most likely going to drop a game or two against LSU, Alabama, and now Texas A&M.  You also have to get through a few SEC East opponents.  We have to beat the Mississippi schools, or it's a real good chance that the season is shot. 

- We beat Mississippi State.  We Holland haven't tasted the joy of winning an SEC matchup since October 2011.  To put our drought in perspective:

Nick Marshall was a cornerback at Georgia. 
Carl Lawson and Montravius Adams were juniors in high school.
We thought for sure that Kiehl Frazier was the future at quarterback.
Gene Chizik was revered by Auburn fans for bringing us a BCS trophy.
The primaries for the 2012 presidential Holland election were just heating up. 
The Occupy Movement was holding its first protests.
An Ohio resident released his exotic animals prior to committing suicide.

It's been a while.

- We looked like dogshit for most of this game.  I saw a lot of bright spots during the Wash State and Ark State games, but tonight, the majority of the game left me scratching my head.  But that's fine.  Nick Marshall's only been on campus for a month and a half.  We have a lot of young players who probably do not understand how conference play intensifies the game.  We may have been down after being excited about the first two weeks of the season.  It happens. Sometimes the players just don't get up for the game.

- Chad Slade was getting his ass Holland whipped all night.  I was wondering why we weren't pounding the ball between the tackles, but then I noticed that whenever we tried, Slade was getting zero push. In fact, I'd say he was getting manhandled. 

- The defense was completely different when Frost was in the game.  It seemed like throughout the 1st half, Jake Holland was all over the place, and not in the good way.  He was consistently in places he shouldn't be.  It was almost comical watching the game.  Not almost.  It was comical.  The play would end, and I would look for Jake Holland.  He was, at least the majority of the time, on some random part of the field.  I would look at #5, our middle linebacker, and I would ask, "Why is Jake Holland over there when everyone else is over here?"  It just didn't make sense.

- But it does make sense as we've all complained about for ages.  For three years now.  Jake Holland is soft. He's lost.  He's slow.  They ran a QB run right at him.  He was about two yards in front of the QB.  Most if not the rest of all of the SEC starting middle linebackers would have salivated at getting a direct lane at hitting a running quarterback.  They would gnash their teeth and lower the boom hoping to send the QB to the training table for tape and ice.  But not Jake.  Oh no, a blocker brushed his hip, and Jake missed the easy tackle. 

- The last drive was huge.  It was night and day different from what we've usually seen in our QB and WRs.  I'm going to hold out hope that confidence was established.  This was Nick Marshall's "a-ha!" moment.  The light bulb went on.  He found the guys he can trust to catch the ball.  He'll read the defense. 

- We have some impressive athletes on our team especially offense. 

- I'm VERY excited about this week.  We're more than likely going to get our shit pushed in, but after beating Miss State, we get to provide experience to our young guys.  Our true freshmen, redshirt freshmen, and true sophomores have never experienced a game like they're going to face next week.  Auburn is 4-0.  LSU is 4-0.  It's a night game at Death Valley.  You want to go to the SECCG?  This is the game you get up for.  THis is the game you put your body on the line and do whatever it takes to win. 

We'll probably lose, but I'm really excited about this.  Our players can see what practice is like or should be like when participating in an SEC Game of the Week type of environment.  They can start to see the look of being an undefeated team playing in a game that allows you to control your own destiny.  This is a great way for our players to grow, and no matter the outcome, I know that they will gain from this experience.



 
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Jumbo on September 15, 2013, 01:41:15 AM
Spot on Townhall, our o-line/d-line was getting dominated all night long. Marshall was unreal on the last drive I didn't think he had it in him. Auburn 3-0 heading into Lsu  #winning
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: The Prowler on September 15, 2013, 02:01:25 AM
We're 3-0 against:
Washington State (2-1)
Arkansas State (2-1)
Mississippi State (1-2)

LSU is 3-0 against:
Texas Christian (1-2)
Univ. of Alabama-Birmingham (0-2)
Kent State (1-2)

It's going to be a CAT FIGHT TO THE DEATH...if I see Slade stand around one more time, I'm going to go to the Zoo and punch a Koala Bear right in the face...if I see Slade stand around while our RB plows right into him, I'm going to find another Koala Bear and punch it in the face...if I see Slade get blown the fuck up at the snap of the ball and shoved two yards into the backfield, I going to find the first Koala Bear that I punched and I'm going to punch him again right in the face...if I see Slade walking towards the defender that just intercepted the ball instead of hauling ass with the intention of killing him with a bone jarring hit, I have no idea what I'm going to do but it will definitely involve punching someone or some thing in the face.

How the flying fuck can't they see his lazy ass walking around during the God Damn play?

I know he's a great pass blocker, maybe one of the best in the Country (I'm being serious), but that's only because he's wider than a  Coke Machine and DLinemen can't get around him and when he gets his hands on a guy, they aren't going to be able to get them off. Maybe that's why he's in there, I haven't a fucking clue. I just want a fucking Offense Line that is mean & nasty...one that shows a SHITLOAD of aggression, I want 5 Greg Robinson with the nastiness of Alex Kozan
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Jumbo on September 15, 2013, 03:27:04 AM
Slade has t-Rex arms and he hates push-ups.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: The Prowler on September 15, 2013, 07:21:52 AM
Slade has t-Rex arms and he hates push-ups.
He doesn't have short arms, but I do doubt he can perform many pushups. His biceps are the size of most people's thighs...like I've said before, he's a massive individual. Shaking his hand is like shaking a bunch of bananas and that was when he was a incoming freshman, I'm sure he has gotten bigger since then...but probably not much stronger (thanks to the wonderful strength and condition program we had).
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: GH2001 on September 15, 2013, 09:17:13 AM
Miss state being miss state aside, I think a big difference in last night was it being an sec team. More physical, more talent. Wash state and ark state are well coached but they do not have sec horses for the most part. I like the way the guys fought back. And most importantly how they didn't quit. Not pretty, but is apparent after 3 games this is not last years team. These guys think they can win. Whether they can or not, they think they can.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Kaos on September 15, 2013, 09:23:08 AM
My takeaways:

1) MSU isn't a really good team.  But they're more physical than anybody we've played so far.
2) We could, should, have scored 45 points.  They scored on every opportunity but one.  So I'm not really concerned about that. In reality that was a 48-20 win that almost turned into a loss.
3) Don't bag on Marshall. He had a fantastic night.  He was stymied at times by the play calling and made a few bad choices, but only a few.
4) When the QB comes right at him, Jake does the hot foot moving backwards which gives the QB more room.  At that point it's either right or left, wherever the lane is, and Jake turns his shoulders parallel.  He was abysmal.  Better than week one, but abysmal yet. The defense plays with more intensity when Frost is in the game.
5) Jake sits by himself on the sidelines. While the rest of the D is either talking amongst themselves or getting direction from a coach, he's sitting alone.
6) Not sure what we're thinking offensively sometimes.  We come out with a rhythm, punch them in the face and then for 2 1/2 quarters get really conservative and don't push the ball down field. We go side to side with passes and up the middle. 
7) We will get a lot better before the end of the year.  Can we challenge the invincible Tide?  Don't know yet, but we're closer than we were.
8) THAT was a big win in spite of the quality of the opponent.  We faced adversity and had to answer the bell on both offense and defense. 
9) I will say that I thought it was a mistake to punt with 5:00 left because if they'd converted that last first down we aren't having this sunshine moment. 
10) MSU is always going to be MSU.  They may find acorns every once in a while, but they will always be blind (cheating) pigs. 
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: GH2001 on September 15, 2013, 09:36:39 AM
My takeaways:

1) MSU isn't a really good team.  But they're more physical than anybody we've played so far.
2) We could, should, have scored 45 points.  They scored on every opportunity but one.  So I'm not really concerned about that. In reality that was a 48-20 win that almost turned into a loss.
3) Don't bag on Marshall. He had a fantastic night.  He was stymied at times by the play calling and made a few bad choices, but only a few.
4) When the QB comes right at him, Jake does the hot foot moving backwards which gives the QB more room.  At that point it's either right or left, wherever the lane is, and Jake turns his shoulders parallel.  He was abysmal.  Better than week one, but abysmal yet. The defense plays with more intensity when Frost is in the game.
5) Jake sits by himself on the sidelines. While the rest of the D is either talking amongst themselves or getting direction from a coach, he's sitting alone.
6) Not sure what we're thinking offensively sometimes.  We come out with a rhythm, punch them in the face and then for 2 1/2 quarters get really conservative and don't push the ball down field. We go side to side with passes and up the middle. 
7) We will get a lot better before the end of the year.  Can we challenge the invincible Tide?  Don't know yet, but we're closer than we were.
8) THAT was a big win in spite of the quality of the opponent.  We faced adversity and had to answer the bell on both offense and defense. 
9) I will say that I thought it was a mistake to punt with 5:00 left because if they'd converted that last first down we aren't having this sunshine moment. 
10) MSU is always going to be MSU.  They may find acorns every once in a while, but they will always be blind (cheating) pigs.
Agree for most part. Point #1 was the key to why we looked different tonight. Even miss state is going to have more talented and physical players than the first two teams we played. But no, they are not good. Their qb did surprise me how well he ran the ball. He gave us fits at times. It's an sec win. I'll take it. We had none last year.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Kaos on September 15, 2013, 09:46:49 AM
Agree for most part. Point #1 was the key to why we looked different tonight. Even miss state is going to have more talented and physical players than the first two teams we played. But no, they are not good. Their qb did surprise me how well he ran the ball. He gave us fits at times. It's an sec win. I'll take it. We had none last year.

I heard the guys on Yahoo! radio last night pimping Metzenberger for the Heisman because he's "putting up beast numbers." 

MSU is better than any team LSU has played and Marshall racked 339 yards, two TDs (should have been three) and really only one pick last night.  State sold out to stop the run and dared him to win it.  In that last drive I think some of the light went on for him and he realized he COULD win it.  That's major.

I don't think we can beat LSU on the road, but they definitely haven't played anybody.  At all.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Godfather on September 15, 2013, 11:14:31 AM

- Like some Holland were arguing last week about a win over Arkansas State, Auburn should always beat Mississippi State.  In the juggernaut division that is the SEC West, losing to a Mississippi is a sure fire way to kill your season.  We're most likely going to drop a game or two against LSU, Alabama, and now Texas A&M.  You also have to get through a few SEC East opponents.  We have to beat the Mississippi schools, or it's a real good chance that the season is shot. 

We won't beat Ole Piss. I agree with the rest of your breakdown and Kaos's.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 15, 2013, 11:22:02 AM
We won't beat Ole Piss. I agree with the rest of your breakdown and Kaos's.

Maybe we'll lose, but I say we need to win.  We're trying to restore order.  Losing to Ole Miss no matter our talent level is unacceptable especially when there are three other teams in our division fighting for a BCS spot. 
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Shug Dye on September 15, 2013, 11:30:17 AM
I am not downing Ole Miss, but I swear Texas looks a lot like Auburn 2012. So, that win doesn't say much to me. We will know more about them next week.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Kaos on September 15, 2013, 11:49:14 AM
I am not downing Ole Miss, but I swear Texas looks a lot like Auburn 2012. So, that win doesn't say much to me. We will know more about them next week.

My thoughts exactly. From the crappy tackling to the IDGAF attitude to the looks of confusion on the sidelines.  It looked like the apathy I saw with us last year.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: GH2001 on September 15, 2013, 12:37:23 PM
My thoughts exactly. From the crappy tackling to the IDGAF attitude to the looks of confusion on the sidelines.  It looked like the apathy I saw with us last year.

Could there seriously be a correlation between Mack and Chiz? Chizik was a helluva coach until he worked for  Texas. Hmmmmm. Same type of stud qb carried both coaches to a nc. Both seem to know very little discipline and their teams have no toughness. Both were lost without their stud players and coaches.  Just curious if Gene modeled a lot of his hc philosophy after Mack. If so, big mistake.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: wesfau2 on September 15, 2013, 12:48:05 PM
Let's start with a strike to the zombie corpse of Flicka: Jake Holland is the worst SEC football player ever.  For all the reasons that have been previously stated, he fucking sucks. 

Once Frost hit the field (in the 4thQ for some reason, any idea why he wasn't in until then?) the defense nutted up.  Prescott was averaging 8.8 ypc in the first three quarters.  Once Frost was playing, that dropped to 2 ypc.

The Dline played fairly well for a unit getting no help through three quarters from the LBs.  The secondary is starting to play with a nasty streak.  Whitehead was laying some wood on the routes across the middle.  I even saw Mincy...gasp...turn and look at the ball while breaking up a pass.

Offensively, there were some really bright spots (Davis, Marshall and Uzomah) and some maddening failures of execution (Coates, Louis and Prosch). 

Nick Marshall is getting it.  The coaches are trusting him with more of the playbook.  23/34 339 2TDs 2Int (one of which was of no consequence at all).  That is a solid stat line.  MSU was going to focus on the run and force Marshall to beat them...and he did.  That final drive was a thing of beauty (6/8 66 yds TD) and the players managed the clock well, getting out of bounds when possible.

It's looking like both phases of the offense can carry the team, if necessary, depending on what the defense is giving them.

So...all of that said, we are going to get spanked in Baton Rouge.  And College Station and likely in Auburn by bama.  Assuming we can gut out the rest of the schedule, I'd be very happy with 9-3.  This team is starting to believe, and that is invaluable.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: DnATL on September 15, 2013, 12:48:54 PM
Just curious if Gene modeled a lot of his hc philosophy after Mack. If so, big mistake.
I just remembered a game a while back where Mack Brown's son-in-law leaned over on the sidelines touched a ball still in play on the field.  Not sure the relevance of that, but while Brown was talking with the on-field reporter at the end of the game (with son-in-law next to him) I remember wondering how in the world did this guy get that job?
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: DnATL on September 15, 2013, 12:54:59 PM
...all of that said, we are going to get spanked in Baton Rouge.  And College Station and likely in Auburn by bama.  Assuming we can gut out the rest of the schedule, I'd be very happy with 9-3.  This team is starting to believe, and that is invaluable.
Agree with 9-3, but not positive that atm is one of the 3.  That's over a month away and there's no telling what stupid shit JfnF gets into between now and then - I don't think atm beats Auburn without him.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Kaos on September 15, 2013, 01:04:59 PM
Agree with 9-3, but not positive that atm is one of the 3.  That's over a month away and there's no telling what stupid shoot JfnF gets into between now and then - I don't think atm beats Auburn without him.

While encouraged, I think you are seeing rainbows that aren't yet there.

LSU remains a probable loss, although I really don't have a clue if they're any good or not. UAB, Kent, TCU (which is pretty awful this year for some reason)?  That's your resume?  Every school in the SEC except Kentucky would be 3-0 and probably look better getting there than LSU.

Ole Miss (as much as it sickens me) remains a probable loss. Year two in a decent system with a decent coach and a whole lot of cheating? 

A&M remains a probable loss. But not as bad as before.

Georgia remains a probable loss. Just because. 

Alabama, well I hate them and maybe they'll all be in prison where they belong.  But still.

Critical games for us, make or break type games in terms of progress remain Tennessee and Arkansas. 

We can't fart around against UT after the Oregon Zippos sped 60 on them. 

Arky will run that freshman right at Holland. If he's on the field for more than 40% of the snaps they can hurt us. 

Those are the two games we HAVE to win to show legitimate progress.  And don't think they aren't marking us down as their barometers, too. 

Could we pick up one of the other five?  Maybe.  But realistically, being competitive in those and knocking off Arky and UT would be an acceptable finish.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: wesfau2 on September 15, 2013, 01:11:12 PM
While encouraged, I think you are seeing rainbows that aren't yet there.

LSU remains a probable loss, although I really don't have a clue if they're any good or not. UAB, Kent, TCU (which is pretty awful this year for some reason)?  That's your resume?  Every school in the SEC except Kentucky would be 3-0 and probably look better getting there than LSU.

Ole Miss (as much as it sickens me) remains a probable loss. Year two in a decent system with a decent coach and a whole lot of cheating? 

A&M remains a probable loss. But not as bad as before.

Georgia remains a probable loss. Just because. 

Alabama, well I hate them and maybe they'll all be in prison where they belong.  But still.

Critical games for us, make or break type games in terms of progress remain Tennessee and Arkansas. 

We can't fart around against UT after the Oregon Zippos sped 60 on them. 

Arky will run that freshman right at Holland. If he's on the field for more than 40% of the snaps they can hurt us. 

Those are the two games we HAVE to win to show legitimate progress.  And don't think they aren't marking us down as their barometers, too. 

Could we pick up one of the other five?  Maybe.  But realistically, being competitive in those and knocking off Arky and UT would be an acceptable finish.

I agree with your trepidation re: AR, UT and OM.  I'm forecasting weekly improvement on the part of our guys (as we have seen thus far) and admittedly, I'm feeling optimistic.

Just read a really fantastic stat: Auburn was called for 1..ONE...penalty last night.  An illegal formation.  That kind of discipline is very encouraging.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: jmar on September 15, 2013, 01:51:23 PM
Could we pick up one of the other five?  Maybe.  But realistically, being competitive in those and knocking off Arky and UT would be an acceptable finish.
^This is where I am currently.


Our run blocking is soft overall.
Our zone defense sucks.
And we really need Davis healthy this week.

 
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Kaos on September 15, 2013, 01:58:28 PM
Could there seriously be a correlation between Mack and Chiz? Chizik was a helluva coach until he worked for  Texas. Hmmmmm. Same type of stud qb carried both coaches to a nc. Both seem to know very little discipline and their teams have no toughness. Both were lost without their stud players and coaches.  Just curious if Gene modeled a lot of his hc philosophy after Mack. If so, big mistake.

I think any time the wheels fall off it looks pretty much the same.  FWIW, I've never thought Mack was all he was cracked up to be.  Remind me again how many Conference titles Texas has won while he was there?   Doesn't he have the same number of national titles as the unemployed Chizik despite perpetually having tons more talent and a much weaker conference?
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: bottomfeeder on September 15, 2013, 02:27:42 PM
WE R FUCKED!
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Yoda on September 15, 2013, 03:15:52 PM
Having watched this one in the stadium we are not a good football team, better than last year but we are too inconsistent on offense and the defense has too many holes in it.  Our biggest problem on D is as has been stated our Linebacker play.  Holland is terrible I'm over seeing #5 on the field.  Not sure why Frost did not start the second half.  Not sure about a lot of coaching decisions.  Not sure why Adams doesn't get more snaps either.  I'm not a coach so I'll trust the decisions being made. 

Two things I really don't understand are 1 our offensive play calling.  Some drives we look great and when Marshall gets going we allow him to cool off.  He is a better QB than we have had the last 2 years I just wish he could judge the long ball.  Receivers are better but dropping too many balls that should be easy completions.  And 2, why in the hell do we not have a punt block play.  I have not seen it in 3 games. We had 2 opportunities to go for a block in the 4th quarter down by 3 and we put zero pressure on the kicker.

What makes me mad is that a team like Miss State calls out our D and we do nothing to shut them up.  4th quarter, 4th and 2 at the 20 your up by 3 and you go for it?  That tells me all I need to know about our run defense. 
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Godfather on September 15, 2013, 08:37:23 PM
9-3 uhh yeah...not. Wanna bet avatars? Any takers?
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 15, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
9-3 uhh yeah...not. Wanna bet avatars? Any takers?

I don't ink we go 9-3, but besides LSU, Georgia, and Alabama, who is a guaranteed loss?  A&M?  Ok.  8-4.  Pretty good turn around from 3-9. 

Arkansas could gash us on the ground.  Tennessee won't beat us.  Ole Miss ain't anything special.  They beat Vandy and 2012 Auburn Austin Edition.  We get them at home. 

I'm saying 8-4.  We keep improving.  Upset one of the big three.  Lose to one we don't expect. 
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: AUChizad on September 15, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
I don't ink we go 9-3, but besides LSU, Georgia, and Alabama, who is a guaranteed loss?  A&M?  Ok.  8-4.  Pretty good turn around from 3-9. 

Arkansas could gash us on the ground.  Tennessee won't beat us.  Ole Miss ain't anything special.  They beat Vandy and 2012 Auburn Austin Edition.  We get them at home. 

I'm saying 8-4.  We keep improving.  Upset one of the big three.  Lose to one we don't expect.
I'm with you.

I say nearly impossible we beat UGA, A&M, or Bammer.

I consider LSU a very possible W. I'd say about a 45% chance, only because we play them in Death Valley. I give us about a 55% chance of beating Ole Miss because we get them at home. Neither of them have really been tested, despite their rankings.

We WILL beat UT & Ark. And of course our two remaining cupcakes.

I say minimum 7, max 9, so most likely 8.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 15, 2013, 09:13:12 PM


I consider LSU a very possible W. I'd say about a 45% chance, only because we play them in Death Valley.

What makes you say that? 

I started to get that feeling.  But I remembered 2011.  I remembered thinking, "We're ripe for the upset!"  And we got our doors blown off.

I'm not allowing myself to do that again.  Sure they've played nothing but cupcakes all year, and sure they're still coached by Les Miles.

But we haven't beaten them in Death Valley since the 90s. 
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: GH2001 on September 15, 2013, 09:26:47 PM
What makes you say that? 

I started to get that feeling.  But I remembered 2011.  I remembered thinking, "We're ripe for the upset!"  And we got our doors blown off.

I'm not allowing myself to do that again.  Sure they've played nothing but cupcakes all year, and sure they're still coached by Les Miles.

But we haven't beaten them in Death Valley since the 90s.

And they're still mighty LSU. And it's still in Baton Rouge. Their cupcake wins aside, I think they're a solid fb team. Miles is a dumbass but I like that fucker. His players play hard for him. We could pull the upset but I think it would require LSU to lay a dud.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: JR4AU on September 15, 2013, 09:48:43 PM
9-3 uhh yeah...not. Wanna bet avatars? Any takers?

Agree.  9-3 aint gonna happen.  No way in hell. 
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 15, 2013, 09:57:59 PM
I didn't read all of the above because, truthfully, aren't we all mainly waiting to see what I have to say?

I'm just happy to get the win and I think we will definitely get to a bowl game now.

Marshall, despite the cursing that I gave him for missing the WIDE ASS OPEN touchdown throw AGAIN--deserved player of the game. Clutch drive and for the most part took good care of the ball--even though it took some luck.

LSU will run it down our throat like the State qb, only x 3. We have a shot against them if Marshall gets hot and we out score em in a shoot out. It's a lucky shot but a shot nonetheless.

The only way we have a shot against A&M or Bama is if we get 3 or 4 free agent LB's.

I like our chances against Ole Piss, Arky, Tn and Ga. I think we can keep it relatively close and pull a few of those out.

Important take away: we is going bowling this year, which means good things for next year. Carry on.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: The Prowler on September 15, 2013, 10:10:27 PM
I believe my rankings were pretty close the past two games, so I'm going to attempt to rank each position again...

QB passing: A
QB running: C
RB: D
WR catching: B
WR blocking: B
OL run blocking: D-
OL pass blocking: A

Overall Offense: B-

DL pass rush: D+
DL run D: D-
LB pass coverage: D-
LB run D: D-
DB: B
Tackling: C-

Overall Defense: D+

Special Teams: A

Win: A (I decided to keep the win as a A, because it's our first SEC win since 10/29/11 against Ole Miss)

Total Team Grade: B
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Saniflush on September 16, 2013, 07:10:13 AM
There is no way you can give the passing an A. 
The one overthrow alone should drop it a notch.  You NEVER miss that throw!
QB running was closer to an A in my book.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: The Prowler on September 16, 2013, 07:40:18 AM
There is no way you can give the passing an A. 
The one overthrow alone should drop it a notch.  You NEVER miss that throw!
QB running was closer to an A in my book.
That overthrow to a wide open receiver happens a lot around the country in both College & NFL, it's called being too open. If the QB has a cannon arm like Marshall, added excitement and rush of adrenaline because the guy is so open, a lot of times causes the QB to put to much on it and overthrow the guy. I don't mind that overthrow, just wish it would've happened earlier in the game. Long bombs like that make the DC think twice about walking the Safeties up...So, yeah Marshall missed a couple receivers (notice I'm not counting the dropped passes against him).
23/29 339yds 2tds 1int is a (A) in my book all day long. (I didn't count the 5 dropped passes or the 1int at the end of the 1st half).
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Saniflush on September 16, 2013, 08:15:06 AM
That overthrow to a wide open receiver happens a lot around the country in both College & NFL, it's called being too open. If the QB has a cannon arm like Marshall, added excitement and rush of adrenaline because the guy is so open, a lot of times causes the QB to put to much on it and overthrow the guy. I don't mind that overthrow, just wish it would've happened earlier in the game. Long bombs like that make the DC think twice about walking the Safeties up...So, yeah Marshall missed a couple receivers (notice I'm not counting the dropped passes against him).
23/29 339yds 2tds 1int is a (A) in my book all day long. (I didn't count the 5 dropped passes or the 1int at the end of the 1st half).

Gamers don't miss that throw.  Not saying he will not be a gamer....In fact the last two minutes of that game may well have put him on his way to having the confidence to be that go to guy.  That was overthrown by almost ten yards. 
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 16, 2013, 08:44:50 AM
Gamers don't miss that throw.  Not saying he will not be a gamer....In fact the last two minutes of that game may well have put him on his way to having the confidence to be that go to guy.  That was overthrown by almost ten yards.
What concerns me is by how much he has overthrown open receivers and his motion. I think he will have a lot of tipped balls at the los in Sec play. But that last drive did a lot for my confidence in him.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: bottomfeeder on September 16, 2013, 08:46:19 AM
On the extra point what was the fucking umpire/official telling the MSU defense back/LB?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhHXQ4RSbA8#t=1m00s
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 16, 2013, 09:06:23 AM
On the extra point what was the fudgeing umpire/official telling the MSU defense back/LB?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhHXQ4RSbA8#t=1m00s
"I can feel you all up on yo ass and rub you on your sack in front of 85,000 people and you can't do nothing about it."
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Jumbo on September 16, 2013, 09:23:10 AM
I think we should give our back up safety a chance to see if he can play qb.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: AUChizad on September 16, 2013, 09:52:44 AM
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Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: djsimp on September 16, 2013, 10:00:31 AM
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Loving this!
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 16, 2013, 10:07:02 AM
I think we should give our back up safety a chance to see if he can play qb.
I doubt that will happen
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Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Jumbo on September 16, 2013, 10:36:30 AM
I doubt that will happen
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I think he was the Gatorade national player of the year his senior year in high school.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Saniflush on September 16, 2013, 10:40:59 AM
I think he was the Gatorade national player of the year his senior year in high school.


Well then Gatorade can start him at QB for their team.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Jumbo on September 16, 2013, 10:46:35 AM

Well then Gatorade can start him at QB for their team.
The Citrus Cooler team needs some confidence at the Qb position.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Godfather on September 16, 2013, 11:02:16 AM

Well then Gatorade can start him at QB for their team.
QB of the Waterboys?  Captain Insaneo shows no mercy!
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Jumbo on September 16, 2013, 11:05:57 AM
QB of the Waterboys?  Captain Insaneo shows no mercy!
Lets kick some names and take some ass.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Godfather on September 16, 2013, 11:08:10 AM
BTW I'll say it, and I am not trying to be Snaggle Downer here but we just barely sneaked by Mississippi State, and granted we have seen a lot of improvement.  I like where we are headed but we are still going to struggle to win games. 

How you can think games against @ Arky and @ UT are automatic wins is beyond me.   I'm glad you guys are optimistic, but I am being realistic.  I still think we lose LSU, aTm, UGA, and turds.  I think Ole Miss beats us, and I think we beat Arky.  UT is a toss up.  So I still think 6 wins 7 at most. 

If we hit 7 wins I will be ecstatic, anything else I think you guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 16, 2013, 11:17:29 AM
I think we beat Arky.  UT is a toss up. 

I was with you until this.

Are you sure  you're thinking correctly? 

Tennessee is bad.  They are really fucking bad.  If Western Kentucky hadn't been drinking moonshine before the game and coughed up five straight turnovers, they may have won.  They were moving the ball all over Tennessee and even after the five turnovers and after that bullshit settled down, they started moving it again.

Their quarterback is eerily reminiscent of Moseley.  Slow to act.  Weak arm.  Thin.  Boyish.  He sucks.

Their defense can't stop any offense that moves quickly. 

Arkansas is the one I'm worried about because we struggling with stopping the run early on, and they apparently have another DMac except this time with dreads. 
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: JR4AU on September 16, 2013, 11:21:16 AM
BTW I'll say it, and I am not trying to be Snaggle Downer here but we just barely sneaked by Mississippi State, and granted we have seen a lot of improvement.  I like where we are headed but we are still going to struggle to win games. 

How you can think games against @ Arky and @ UT are automatic wins is beyond me.   I'm glad you guys are optimistic, but I am being realistic.  I still think we lose LSU, aTm, UGA, and turds.  I think Ole Miss beats us, and I think we beat Arky.  UT is a toss up.  So I still think 6 wins 7 at most. 

If we hit 7 wins I will be ecstatic, anything else I think you guys are setting yourselves up for disappointment.


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Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Saniflush on September 16, 2013, 11:21:37 AM
QB of the Waterboys?  Captain Insaneo shows no mercy!

Even though he was recently slightly discourteous to you?
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Godfather on September 16, 2013, 11:24:45 AM
I was with you until this.

Are you sure  you're thinking correctly? 

Tennessee is bad.  They are really fucking bad.  If Western Kentucky hadn't been drinking moonshine before the game and coughed up five straight turnovers, they may have won.  They were moving the ball all over Tennessee and even after the five turnovers and after that bullshit settled down, they started moving it again.

Their quarterback is eerily reminiscent of Moseley.  Slow to act.  Weak arm.  Thin.  Boyish.  He sucks.

Their defense can't stop any offense that moves quickly. 

Arkansas is the one I'm worried about because we struggling with stopping the run early on, and they apparently have another DMac except this time with dreads.
You can say WKU may have won, but UT also caused those turnovers, so that statement is kind of ridiculous. 

Quite honestly I think both UT and ARky are toss ups.  I think we can beat both of them, but I don't know that we will.  I have yet to see this team play from the confines of home. My thoughts may change after this weekend.

Bottom line was 6-7 wins and at 7 wins I think that is a hell of a season.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Kaos on September 16, 2013, 01:08:51 PM
You can say WKU may have won, but UT also caused those turnovers, so that statement is kind of ridiculous. 

Quite honestly I think both UT and ARky are toss ups.  I think we can beat both of them, but I don't know that we will.  I have yet to see this team play from the confines of home. My thoughts may change after this weekend.

Bottom line was 6-7 wins and at 7 wins I think that is a hell of a season.

I saw the turnovers.  They weren't caused.  They just happened. 
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 16, 2013, 01:50:53 PM
Even though he was recently slightly discourteous to you?

He poked me in the eye!
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Shug Dye on September 16, 2013, 02:44:24 PM
That was not your eye.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: The Prowler on September 16, 2013, 03:07:59 PM
On the extra point what was the fucking umpire/official telling the MSU defense back/LB?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhHXQ4RSbA8#t=1m00s
He was telling him to move over a bit, so he wouldn't land on top of the Center when he jumped.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 17, 2013, 08:58:45 AM
Oh...Prowler.  Prosch loves him some Slade.

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Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Jumbo on September 17, 2013, 11:27:39 AM
Oh...Prowler.  Prosch loves him some Slade.

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Slade has hops.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: jmar on September 17, 2013, 11:34:12 AM
Slade has hops.
So energetic...Prowler will be impressed.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: The Prowler on September 17, 2013, 01:59:13 PM
I remember saying, that's the most I've seen Slade move in three games.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 17, 2013, 04:09:53 PM
Slade has hops.
Bionic knee braces. We're cheating again.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on September 17, 2013, 05:07:37 PM
Bionic knee braces. We're cheating again.

I heard a faint "sha-na-na-na-na" when he jumped.  It was in slow motion too.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: Snaggletiger on September 17, 2013, 05:46:24 PM
I heard a faint "sha-na-na-na-na" when he jumped.  It was in slow motion too.

That's about $6 million worth of hussel right there.
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: The Prowler on September 17, 2013, 11:20:04 PM
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Slade has hops.
Prosch is showing off his strength...he's pushin Slade up (all 320lbs of dead weight).
Title: Re: Thoughts - Week 3
Post by: AUChizad on September 18, 2013, 05:35:23 PM
But we haven't beaten them in Death Valley since the 90s.
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