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Title: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: AUChizad on June 06, 2013, 02:14:03 PM
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9349221/ncaa-announce-infractions-mississippi-state-bulldogs-source
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Mississippi St. to get penalized
Updated: June 6, 2013, 1:56 PM ET
By Brett McMurphy | ESPN

The NCAA will announce infractions for Mississippi State's football program on Friday morning, a source told ESPN.

The NCAA announced Friday's 11 a.m. ET conference call, but did not specify which sport it involved.

A source confirmed that the infractions are considered major in nature and are likely to include some elements of self-imposed penalties related to recruiting. A source also confirmed that former wide receivers coach Angelo Mirando is a key element to the infractions and that Mullen is not expected to be directly implicated.
In August, Mississippi State confirmed an ongoing NCAA investigation into a "potential recruiting irregularity." The school said the investigation is "nearing an end" and it will cooperate fully.  In July, Mississippi State disassociated from an athletics booster because of "impermissible contact" with a student-athlete.

"That's been going on for the last several months," Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen said following Thursday's practice. "I'm not able to comment on any of that."

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Mirando resigned last August, less than two weeks before the 2012 season opener against Jackson State, in the wake of an ongoing NCAA investigation related to his recruitment of at least one player on the Bulldogs' roster, ESPN reported.

On Sunday, a statement released by the school said Mirando resigned because of "unforeseen personal issues." In the statement, Mirando said, "It is in my best interest to resign from Mississippi State." He also said he wanted to "stress that these issues are personal."

Mississippi State freshman defensive back Will Redmond was the subject of an NCAA interview that his coach at Memphis East High School gave, according to the coach, Marcus Wimberly, ESPN reported.

"I told them as far as I was concerned his recruitment was on the up and up," Wimberly said. "Who knows what they're looking for. Will chose his school because he felt most comfortable and it was close to home."

Mullen criticized ESPN last summer regarding Redmond and said that the defensive back is still practicing with the team.

The Bulldogs hired former Minnesota coach Tim Brewster to fill Mirando's position. After one season, Brewster left to become an assistant at Florida State.

Remember, the NCAA ALWAYS turns a blind eye and lets guilty programs off the hook.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2013, 02:19:46 PM
"That's been going on for the last several months," Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen said following Thursday's practice. "I'm not able to comment on any of that."


Following Thursday's practice?
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 06, 2013, 02:21:36 PM
"That's been going on for the last several months," Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen said following Thursday's practice. "I'm not able to comment on any of that."


Following Thursday's practice?

Oops...now, Mullen has been added to the list of offenders.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: djsimp on June 06, 2013, 02:30:45 PM
Great, another black eye for the Auburn program.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2013, 02:33:48 PM
Great, another black eye for the Auburn program.

Moon is on it
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2013, 02:41:12 PM
I think it has legs and may make Sorts Illust.

"This is even more proof that AU's athletic department is in complete shambles and is full of cheating. One black eye after another. They are the laughing stock of the SEC," reported Josh Moon in a twitterz battle with AUChizad of Tigersx.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Jumbo on June 06, 2013, 02:52:12 PM
Jay Jacobs has to go.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: The Six on June 06, 2013, 02:52:55 PM
What in Friday Night Lights is "unforeseen personal issues" supposed to mean?
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: djsimp on June 06, 2013, 02:55:21 PM
What in Friday Night Lights is "unforeseen personal issues" supposed to mean?

He couldn't get an erection.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: The Six on June 06, 2013, 02:56:56 PM
He couldn't get an erection.

Don't they make a pill or an app for that?
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: GH2001 on June 06, 2013, 03:36:53 PM
Don't they make a pill or an app for that?

Well snags? We're waiting for an answer.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on June 06, 2013, 03:46:33 PM
Well snags? We're waiting for an answer.

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Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: The Six on June 06, 2013, 03:51:01 PM
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Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2013, 04:05:54 PM
He couldn't get an erection.
Seeing erection makes me horney. I mean the word, not actually seeing an erection.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2013, 04:10:36 PM
Seeing erection makes me horney. I mean the word, not actually seeing an erection.

Chinese people voting makes you horny?
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Godfather on June 06, 2013, 04:17:28 PM
So I was balls deep in this guy thrusting as hard as I could when I reached around to give him a hand job. Guess what? That fucker had an erection. What. Queer.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 06, 2013, 04:46:28 PM
Chinese people voting makes you horny?
Hey, I'm Chinese. Sonobeech. Sheet. I come fine you.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 06, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
Hey, I'm Chinese. Sonobeech. Sheet. I come fine you.

ROR
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: The Prowler on June 06, 2013, 06:01:05 PM
Chinese people voting makes you horny?
Boom Muddafucka Yagh
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Pell City Tiger on June 06, 2013, 07:42:53 PM
The Hunchback of Starkghanistan needs his own :miltie:
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: AUChizad on June 07, 2013, 11:38:46 AM
Two years of probation and loss of two scholarships.

Hardly the hammer drop I was hoping for, but still, the NCAA did not "look the other way".
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 07, 2013, 12:14:49 PM
Great.  2 more people who won't be going to college. That makes perfect sense.   :thumsup:
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Townhallsavoy on June 07, 2013, 12:37:46 PM
So is the easier question "What SEC teams have NOT been placed on probation since Auburn's 2010 investigation?"
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: wesfau2 on June 07, 2013, 12:41:40 PM
Did they ever detail the incident that caused this investigation/punishment?

In other words, were Bond/Bell/Rogers involved?  Was this in any way related to MSU's attempt to pay the Newtons?
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: chityeah on June 07, 2013, 01:36:25 PM
Did they ever detail the incident that caused this investigation/punishment?

In other words, were Bond/Bell/Rogers involved?  Was this in any way related to MSU's attempt to pay the Newtons?

http://djournal.com/view/full_story/22832861/article-Mississippi-State-football-penalties-announced?instance=home_news_1st_left
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: AUChizad on June 07, 2013, 01:36:27 PM
Did they ever detail the incident that caused this investigation/punishment?

In other words, were Bond/Bell/Rogers involved?  Was this in any way related to MSU's attempt to pay the Newtons?
Unfortunately, that all had nothing to do with this.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9352487/mississippi-state-bulldogs-put-probation-ncaa?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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MSU put on 2 years' probation
Updated: June 7, 2013, 1:32 PM ET
By Joe Schad | ESPN

The NCAA penalized Mississippi State's football program with two years of probation, a loss of four total scholarships, and a loss of four recruiting visits, and cited a former assistant coach for unethical conduct for major recruiting violations.

Mississippi State's cooperation with the NCAA and the fact that Dan Mullen wasn't implicated helped the Bulldogs escape serious sanctions, writes Chris Low. Blog

According to the NCAA, a since-disassociated booster assisted a player in securing a car, provided cash to a recruit on multiple locations and told the recruit if he did not take a visit to another school, he would be paid $6,000.

Last year, ESPN reported that Mississippi State defensive back Will Redmond faced NCAA scrutiny and that a 7-on-7 coach, Byron De'Vinner, said the involved booster was Denton Herring. Also last year, Mississippi State wide receivers coach Angelo Mirando was said to have resigned for personal reasons, but ESPN reported he was involved in an NCAA investigation that also involved Redmond.


At the time, Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen criticized ESPN's reporting regarding Mirando and Redmond.

E-mail communication between Herring and Mirando has been reviewed by ESPN. The e-mails showed constant communication, including the booster suggesting players Mirando should be recruiting.

According to NCAA committee on infractions chair Britton Banowsky, the player involved (Redmond) will be eligible to play this season. Banowsky said the case was serious in nature because it involved a booster who helped bring a top recruit to campus and because a coach had knowledge.

Mirando was given a one year show-cause penalty, which hinders his ability to secure employment at the college level. The penalty would have been worse except the NCAA said Mirando cooperated to an extent beyond what was required. The report says Mirando "became aware of the improper recruiting activity but did not report it to university officials."

The NCAA largely accepted Mississippi State's self-imposed sanctions. According to the report released Friday, the Mississippi State booster also helped the recruit secure a car for $2,000 below the actual value.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 07, 2013, 01:46:42 PM
AUBURN:  Ramsey's most specific allegations centered on Auburn booster Bill "Corky" Frost. Ramsey alleged that Frost had made at least two of Ramsey's monthly car payments and given him steaks to help him gain weight. He also claimed Young had paid him $300 per month. The most damaging allegation, however, was pointed at Auburn coach and athletic director, Pat Dye, who he claimed had helped him receive an unsecured loan for over $9,000 in April 1990.

MSU:  According to the NCAA, a since-disassociated booster assisted a player in securing a car, provided cash to a recruit on multiple locations and told the recruit if he did not take a visit to another school, he would be paid $6,000.  According to the report released Friday, the Mississippi State booster also helped the recruit secure a car for $2,000 below the actual value.


Tell me what the penalties were for each school again.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: WiregrassTiger on June 07, 2013, 02:23:08 PM
AUBURN:  Ramsey's most specific allegations centered on Auburn booster Bill "Corky" Frost. Ramsey alleged that Frost had made at least two of Ramsey's monthly car payments and given him steaks to help him gain weight. He also claimed Young had paid him $300 per month. The most damaging allegation, however, was pointed at Auburn coach and athletic director, Pat Dye, who he claimed had helped him receive an unsecured loan for over $9,000 in April 1990.

MSU:  According to the NCAA, a since-disassociated booster assisted a player in securing a car, provided cash to a recruit on multiple locations and told the recruit if he did not take a visit to another school, he would be paid $6,000.  According to the report released Friday, the Mississippi State booster also helped the recruit secure a car for $2,000 below the actual value.


Tell me what the penalties were for each school again.
So, is the moral that lawyers in Mississippi are better? But, serious question, how extensively are lawyers involved with NCAA matters on behalf of the university? I don't know the qualifications and/or experience required to be a compliance director, etc.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: noxin on June 07, 2013, 02:25:25 PM
Two years of probation and loss of two scholarships.

Hardly the hammer drop I was hoping for, but still, the NCAA did not "look the other way".

Setting the penalty threshold low, just in case any other programs are convicted of major violations anytime soon
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: The Six on June 07, 2013, 03:07:42 PM
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Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on June 07, 2013, 03:29:44 PM
AUBURN:  Ramsey's most specific allegations centered on Auburn booster Bill "Corky" Frost. Ramsey alleged that Frost had made at least two of Ramsey's monthly car payments and given him steaks to help him gain weight. He also claimed Young had paid him $300 per month. The most damaging allegation, however, was pointed at Auburn coach and athletic director, Pat Dye, who he claimed had helped him receive an unsecured loan for over $9,000 in April 1990.

MSU:  According to the NCAA, a since-disassociated booster assisted a player in securing a car, provided cash to a recruit on multiple locations and told the recruit if he did not take a visit to another school, he would be paid $6,000.  According to the report released Friday, the Mississippi State booster also helped the recruit secure a car for $2,000 below the actual value.


Tell me what the penalties were for each school again.

Too much money involved now.  Athletic income is too important to the universities, the NCAA, and the state and local governments for the NCAA to do anything serious.  Remember when the Memphis thing went down and people were talking death penalty for Alabama?  Alabama football makes $82 million in revenue and $45.1 million in profits (just pulled those with a google search, no idea what it was at the time) plus who knows how much for the local and state economy through local business (hotels, bars, food) radio and TV advertising and ancillary incomes.  Do you think that the NCAA is going to do anything to damage that for any school again?

If the NCAA wanted to take an SEC school off TV for a year again what do you think ESPN's response would be?  Do you think they would sue the NCAA or the SEC first for breach of contract?
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: Snaggletiger on June 07, 2013, 03:36:01 PM
Too much money involved now.  Athletic income is too important to the universities, the NCAA, and the state and local governments for the NCAA to do anything serious.  Remember when the Memphis thing went down and people were talking death penalty for Alabama?  Alabama football makes $82 million in revenue and $45.1 million in profits (just pulled those with a google search, no idea what it was at the time) plus who knows how much for the local and state economy through local business (hotels, bars, food) radio and TV advertising and ancillary incomes.  Do you think that the NCAA is going to do anything to damage that for any school again?

If the NCAA wanted to take an SEC school off TV for a year again what do you think ESPN's response would be?  Do you think they would sue the NCAA or the SEC first for breach of contract?

Pffft on your logic and sound reasoning.  It has no place here.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: The Prowler on June 07, 2013, 04:35:57 PM
Should've been a larger hit, since the cheating at MSU is rampant, regarding money for recruits. The NCAA should've stepped back and looked at MSU's recruitment of Cameron Newton and everything the boosters were trying to do to secure his commitment (they were the ones on tape talking about needing a large amount of money to bring Cam on board, they have a system, the smaller boosters knew who to call). Skip to two years later, they're still paying recruits.
Title: Re: MSU Hammer Coming
Post by: The Prowler on June 08, 2013, 05:04:00 AM
On top of their NCAA hand slap, MSU just lost their 4* QB, from the past signing class, to the Philadelphia Phillies.