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Title: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: AUChizad on March 05, 2013, 08:15:56 PM
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat/informal-literally-definition-creeps-into-dictionaries_b66376

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Informal ‘Literally’ Definition Creeps into Dictionaries
For years, readers and writers have debated a common informal use of the word “literally.”

In conversation, some people use the word to provide exaggerated emphasis for a statement: “I love Haruki Murakami so much I literally read South of the Border, West of the Sun one hundred times.” Back in 2011, we even published a grammar PSA about the word.

Reddit reader andtheniansaid shared three separate dictionary definitions that include this informal usage, arguing that “it is okay to use the word ‘literally’ for emphasis.”


Here are three major dictionaries that mention the exaggerated “literally” usage…

Merriam-Webster Dictionary added a second “virtually” sense for the word, explaining with this note: “Since some people take sense 2 to be the opposite of sense 1, it has been frequently criticized as a misuse. Instead, the use is pure hyperbole intended to gain emphasis, but it often appears in contexts where no additional emphasis is necessary.”

Cambridge Dictionaries Online added this informal usage to its definition: “used to emphasize what you are saying: He missed that kick literally by miles. I was literally bowled over by the news.”

Oxford Dictionaries begrudgingly admitted the shift: “In recent years an extended use of literally (and also literal) has become very common, where literally (or literal) is used deliberately in non-literal contexts, for added effect, as in they bought the car and literally ran it into the ground. This use can lead to unintentional humorous effects (we were literally killing ourselves laughing) and is not acceptable in formal contexts, though it is widespread.”
Title: Re: I Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: Saniflush on March 06, 2013, 06:56:03 AM
What does Wikipedia have to say on the matter?
Title: Re: I Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: War Eagle!!! on March 06, 2013, 08:54:42 AM
I agree with the title of this thread...but the definition on "literally" has nothing to do with it...
Title: Re: I Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: wesfau2 on March 06, 2013, 09:51:11 AM
Bemoaning the evolution of language and grammar under this particular thread title is ironic, Alanis.
Title: Re: I Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: AUChizad on March 06, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
Bemoaning the evolution of language and grammar under this particular thread title is ironic, Alanis.
Goddammit. Bemoan fat finger typos when posting from a cell phone, if you must.

Regardless, this seriously does actually piss me off.

The misuse of "literally" is LITERALLY my #1 Pet Peeve.

Websters has just validated this shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk5l748-vF0
Title: Re: I Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: wesfau2 on March 06, 2013, 10:11:50 AM
Goddammit. Bemoan fat finger typos when posting from a cell phone, if you must.


It wasn't the I/It problem.  You still don't see it?  I blame the Prattville school system.
Title: Re: I Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: War Eagle!!! on March 06, 2013, 10:21:43 AM
You still don't see it?

No, he literally doesn't...
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 06, 2013, 10:38:13 AM
I blame this guy:

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Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: AU_Tiger_2000 on March 06, 2013, 10:45:11 AM
My 7 year old daughter told me the other day, "Something something something (don't remember) and I was so embarrassed that I literally died."  I asked her how she was standing there talking to me then, but my humor is lost on her.
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: AUChizad on March 06, 2013, 10:48:56 AM
It wasn't the I/It problem.  You still don't see it?  I blame the Prattville school system.
I literally do not.

The capitalization of "A" in a title? That's all I've got. Now I just want to know.

I'm aware that I frequently make that mistake in thread titles, but I simply do not give a shit about that, as I don't see thread titles as actual titles and are often not even capitalized at all.
Title: Re: I Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: Saniflush on March 06, 2013, 11:11:39 AM
It wasn't the I/It problem.  You still don't see it?  I blame the Prattville school system.

 :thumsup:
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 06, 2013, 11:23:21 AM
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Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: GH2001 on March 06, 2013, 11:27:49 AM
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tl;dr
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: wesfau2 on March 06, 2013, 11:44:13 AM
I literally do not.

The capitalization of "A" in a title? That's all I've got. Now I just want to know.

I'm aware that I frequently make that mistake in thread titles, but I simply do not give a shit about that, as I don't see thread titles as actual titles and are often not even capitalized at all.

"It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost"

You either meant that we once had a well-run, educated society...

Or

You meant that we, as a society, had a good run, but we have officially lost.

I read it the first way.  Good /= Well.
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: AUChizad on March 06, 2013, 11:45:53 AM
"It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost"

You either meant that we once had a well-run, educated society...

Or

You meant that we, as a society, had a good run, but we have officially lost.

I read it the first way.  Good /= Well.
Yes, you read it wrong. The second one.
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: wesfau2 on March 06, 2013, 11:47:07 AM
Yes, you read it wrong. The second one.

Then you have a completely superfluous and misplaced clause in the middle ("educated society") and I'm still correct.
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: WiregrassTiger on March 06, 2013, 11:54:15 AM
Then you have a completely superfluous and misplaced clause in the middle ("educated society") and I'm still correct.
What if "for" were inserted before "Educated Society"? Would that alleviate your pain? It literally changes my perspective of the title.
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: AUChizad on March 06, 2013, 11:56:49 AM
Then you have a completely superfluous and misplaced clause in the middle ("educated society") and I'm still correct.
Two words is superfluous?

You are incorrect. Live with it.

Type the sentence "It was a good run, educated society, but we have officially lost." into Microsoft Word and see if you get a green line or not.

Regardless, your misguided rant is distracting from the bigger issue, which is that we have now officially bent to the lowest common denominator who use words that mean the exact opposite of what they are trying to say so often, that it is now considered acceptable.

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Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: Snaggletiger on March 06, 2013, 12:07:09 PM
I'm beside myself.
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: wesfau2 on March 06, 2013, 12:21:11 PM


Type the sentence "It was a good run, educated society, but we have officially lost." into Microsoft Word and see if you get a green line or not.


I'm not trusting any source without a "wiki" in its name.

Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: Townhallsavoy on March 06, 2013, 12:31:31 PM
Then you have a completely superfluous and misplaced clause in the middle ("educated society") and I'm still correct.

If he is referring to the educated society as a collective and speaking directly to them, then the sentence is grammatically correct. 
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: wesfau2 on March 06, 2013, 12:35:57 PM
If he is referring to the educated society as a collective and speaking directly to them, then the sentence is grammatically correct.

Yeah, I see that.  It's way more fun to fuck with him, though.
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: bottomfeeder on March 06, 2013, 01:01:51 PM
It's the public education systems' intentional dumbing down of Americans to gain complete control and power for elimination.
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Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: AUChizad on March 06, 2013, 01:05:09 PM
It's the public education systems' intentional dumbing down of Americans to gain complete control and power for elimination.
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It's probably that.
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 06, 2013, 02:15:07 PM
This is literally the worst thread I have read EVAR!
Title: Re: I Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: CCTAU on March 11, 2013, 09:28:10 AM
It wasn't the I/It problem.  You still don't see it?  I blame the Prattville school system.

That there is horsespit. Mrs. Winona Hall would never stand for language such as that. You would be thrown back down into the "basic senior English" class!
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: Hogwally on March 11, 2013, 03:29:41 PM
   OK, but why is "literally" any worse than the "officially" you used?  Have actual officials ruled on this?  If not, why would you use the word?  Or was that the entire point of your post, in some kind of cool satirical device that I was slow to pick up on?  Sometimes you guys confuse me.  I can't tell if I'm an idiot or if you are, but I'm thinking it's not me.
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: AUChizad on March 11, 2013, 03:31:41 PM
   OK, but why is "literally" any worse than the "officially" you used?  Have actual officials ruled on this?  If not, why would you use the word?  Or was that the entire point of your post, in some kind of cool satirical device that I was slow to pick up on?  Sometimes you guys confuse me.  I can't tell if I'm an idiot or if you are, but I'm thinking it's not me.
Nope...pretty sure it's you.
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: chinook on March 11, 2013, 03:51:49 PM
Nope...pretty sure it's you.

why isn't it..."ugly" sure?  why does sure always have to be pretty?

b.t.w ...i hate capitolization. 
Title: Re: It Was A Good Run, Educated Society, But We Have Officially Lost
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 11, 2013, 07:06:47 PM
why isn't it..."ugly" sure?  why does sure always have to be pretty?

b.t.w ...i hate capitolization.

why do you hate obama?