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Title: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: Tiger Wench on December 01, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
Les Miles just called. He's sending you his "Piss Poor Clock Management" Award.  You are this year's winner.

You fucking moron.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: RWS on December 01, 2012, 10:27:21 PM
I was happy to see the result, but I couldn't figure out what he was thinking either.  According to his post-game interview, he said they had the play that they wanted so they didn't feel like they needed to clock the ball.  They thought that it would catch the defense off guard.  Maybe, but damn, talk about painting yourself into a corner.  Had the ball been deflected, I still don't think it would have been completed.  There were like 3 white jerseys right where he was throwing it.

I'm glad that Saban was the anti-Richt in this game and went for the 2-point conversion.  Otherwise, UGA would have won.  Also glad that they stuck to the running game too. 
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: GH2001 on December 02, 2012, 02:07:32 AM
Uga was handed a cupcake schedule with a roster full of seniors who will be in nfl next year - and they still fucked it up. I said in the beginning of the year richt would fuck up a game or two. That's what he does.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: The Six on December 02, 2012, 08:21:51 AM
In his defense, it is hard to beat a good team and the refs too.

But, yes, they choked and handed Alabama the trophy.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 02, 2012, 08:47:23 AM
The more I think about it, the more I realize that not clocking wasn't the biggest issue.  If Moseley doesn't tip the ball and it falls incomplete, there's still five seconds left.  If he tips the ball and it falls incomplete, there's five seconds left. 

Tip it and your receiver already falling down decides to catch it five yards before the endnote?  Game over. 

The real blame is on that receiver not swatting the ball away.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: The Six on December 02, 2012, 08:49:08 AM
37 more days...

Maybe we'll hire a coach in the timeframe and have something else to talk about.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: RWS on December 02, 2012, 11:01:36 AM
In his defense, it is hard to beat a good team and the refs too.
The game was called pretty equally.  But if you really want to go that route, the refs spotted UGA a TD by calling that one pass a tipped ball thus nullifying the pass interference.  The next play, UGA blocked the FG and ran it back for a TD.  I think that the replay clearly showed that it wasn't a tipped ball.  The refs also didn't call a UGA OL tackling an Alabama DL on a UGA TD run either.  Alabama and UGA both were about dead-on with their average penalties per game.  The refs let both teams play a little loose, which is how the SECCG is usually called.  I thought they were pretty much spot on for how a SECCG is normally officiated. 

If you're butthurt because another team didn't beat Alabama, just say you're butthurt.  It was a damn good game between two damn good teams.  That was probably one of the best SECCG in a while. 
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: RWS on December 02, 2012, 11:22:33 AM
The more I think about it, the more I realize that not clocking wasn't the biggest issue.  If Moseley doesn't tip the ball and it falls incomplete, there's still five seconds left.  If he tips the ball and it falls incomplete, there's five seconds left. 

Tip it and your receiver already falling down decides to catch it five yards before the endnote?  Game over. 

The real blame is on that receiver not swatting the ball away.
True, but as a WR, your reflex is to catch it.  You don't even think about it.  You just catch it.  I think reflex simply won out over brain in that case.  Had they clocked it, UGA wouldn't have been in a "this is our only shot" mode.  They would have had two, MAYBE 3 shots at the end zone.  I would take 2 or 3 shots from 5 yards out over the element of surprise any day.  UGA can play Alabama straight up. I don't understand why they felt the need to try to surprise the defense and put all of their eggs in one basket.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: The Six on December 02, 2012, 11:33:17 AM
The game was called pretty equally.  But if you really want to go that route, the refs spotted UGA a TD by calling that one pass a tipped ball thus nullifying the pass interference.  The next play, UGA blocked the FG and ran it back for a TD.  I think that the replay clearly showed that it wasn't a tipped ball.  The refs also didn't call a UGA OL tackling an Alabama DL on a UGA TD run either.  Alabama and UGA both were about dead-on with their average penalties per game.  The refs let both teams play a little loose, which is how the SECCG is usually called.  I thought they were pretty much spot on for how a SECCG is normally officiated. 

If you're butthurt because another team didn't beat Alabama, just say you're butthurt.  It was a damn good game between two damn good teams.  That was probably one of the best SECCG in a while.

For the record, I predicted Alabama to win by a decent margin. So, I'm not surprised they won it.

Pivotal non-call was the shot on Murray after the interception. I think QBs are overprotected but to call the Dawg for the bang bang play on AJ and not call the takes his time to line up bitch shot on Murray sent a message to the UGA bench that their guys were just gonna have to take it. They aren't and historically under Richt haven't been the kind of mentally tough team that can do so. Can't say that one play didn't change things because it did.

The only think butthurt is the pet goat and every Alabama everywhere about 2010/Cam Newton. 

Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: RWS on December 02, 2012, 11:47:00 AM
For the record, I predicted Alabama to win by a decent margin. So, I'm not surprised they won it.

Pivotal non-call was the shot on Murray after the interception. I think QBs are overprotected but to call the Dawg for the bang bang play on AJ and not call the takes his time to line up bitch shot on Murray sent a message to the UGA bench that their guys were just gonna have to take it. They aren't and historically under Richt haven't been the kind of mentally tough team that can do so. Can't say that one play didn't change things because it did.

The only think butthurt is the pet goat and every Alabama everywhere about 2010/Cam Newton.
The hit itself was OK, but the helmet-to-helmet should have been called.  The shot on AJ wasn't bang-bang either.  He took like two whole steps after the ball was thrown.  One was done literally right in front of a referee, and the other got lost in the shuffle of the INT return.  Shit happens.  How you can think that the non-call on Murray was pivotal, but the wrong call then the non-call that literally gave UGA two TDs meant nothing is beyond me. 

For the type of game that it was, it was called faily even.  There were a few missed calls on boths sides, but that shit happens.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: The Six on December 02, 2012, 12:21:29 PM
The hit itself was OK, but the helmet-to-helmet should have been called.  The shot on AJ wasn't bang-bang either.  He took like two whole steps after the ball was thrown.  One was done literally right in front of a referee, and the other got lost in the shuffle of the INT return.  shoot happens.  How you can think that the non-call on Murray was pivotal, but the wrong call then the non-call that literally gave UGA two TDs meant nothing is beyond me. 

For the type of game that it was, it was called faily even.  There were a few missed calls on boths sides, but that shoot happens.

Holding is a weirdly inconsistent thing with SEC refs in any game. The tipped ball, ehh, the video was inconclusive but it did look like a shoddy throw. All I'm saying is the hit squad knockout shot on Murray was a bitch play but oh well. UGA had their shot and didn't do it.

Congrats to Alabama for knowing how to win even when the other team won't go away.

In the meanwhile, I'm watching the Idaho state playoffs closely to see if JJ bring East Briddlestock's Special Teams coach Jim Gurfallistantz in to lead the Tigers.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: jmar on December 02, 2012, 02:08:41 PM
True, but as a WR, your reflex is to catch it.  You don't even think about it.  You just catch it.  I think reflex simply won out over brain in that case.  Had they clocked it, UGA wouldn't have been in a "this is our only shot" mode.  They would have had two, MAYBE 3 shots at the end zone.  I would take 2 or 3 shots from 5 yards out over the element of surprise any day.  UGA can play Alabama straight up. I don't understand why they felt the need to try to surprise the defense and put all of their eggs in one basket.
The game was officiated ok except for that headblast on McMurray.
And by the book he knew to clock it w/o prompt but it's ok to blame Richt too.
     
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: bottomfeeder on December 02, 2012, 06:19:16 PM
The real blame is on that receiver not swatting the ball away.
That would take coaching and thought, of which, those involved are without. Game Over! :facepalm:
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: RWS on December 02, 2012, 06:32:01 PM
All I'm saying is the hit squad knockout shot on Murray was a bitch play but oh well.
That's fine.  Simply saying the "had to beat the refs too" comment was total bullshit.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: Pell City Tiger on December 02, 2012, 07:55:56 PM
That's fine.  Simply saying the "had to beat the refs too" comment was total bullshit.
I noticed a big increase in the number of yellow flags thrown against the dawgs once they went up by 11.

Just sayin'
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: RWS on December 02, 2012, 09:37:23 PM
I noticed a big increase in the number of yellow flags thrown against the dawgs once they went up by 11.

Just sayin'
After UGA went up by 11, they only had two penalties called on them.  One was for a guy pushing an Alabama player to the ground right in front of a referee after a kickoff return.  The other was for an UGA DB tackling Kevin Norwood in the endzone to save a TD.  Both were very obvious.  UGA had 5 penalties prior to going up by 11.  Alabama had one penalty after UGA went up by 11, and that was a personal foul on Milliner. 

The penalties against UGA decreased when they went up by 11. Just sayin'
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: Pell City Tiger on December 02, 2012, 09:51:02 PM
After UGA went up by 11, they only had two penalties called on them.  One was for a guy pushing an Alabama player to the ground right in front of a referee after a kickoff return.  The other was for an UGA DB tackling Kevin Norwood in the endzone to save a TD.  Both were very obvious.  UGA had 5 penalties prior to going up by 11.  Alabama had one penalty after UGA went up by 11, and that was a personal foul on Milliner. 

The penalties against UGA decreased when they went up by 11. Just sayin'
Bullshit.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: AWK on December 02, 2012, 10:00:51 PM
Or that hit on Murray.  That was definitely not a penalty...
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: AUownsU on December 02, 2012, 10:08:48 PM
7-1 in flags with Uat's only flag an obvious delay of game. All the while Uat's O-line continued to lead the game in tackles as a unit. Also I'm so glad that Ugay gets flagged for obvious PIs even when the fucking pass is nowhere near catchable but Uat's secondary mugs more motherfuckers than all of Compton combined.

Look I ain't saying Uat wasn't the better team. However, with all due respect, when your fucking team is the least penalized team in the country in the last 5 years and the head man over SEC officials is a Uat grad, bammers don't need be telling me that the fucking officials ain't biased. Maybe its the Jordan Rule?  When you are fucking good you get the benefit of the doubt. The again, maybe its because a majority of officials are updyke fans. At one time the folks down at Auburn thought the officiating was questionable enough to say fuck this series for 40 years. Thats why I wouldn't mind seeing officials ruled over by the NCAA instead of their conference and officials are flown in from outside the region the game is played in.
Whatever it is, one things for sure, when it comes to bang-bang plays and close spots on the field, Uat gets the benefit of the doubt a majority of the time.

With that said I want to sincerely say, congrats on winning the SEC. Ya'll motherfuckers play football the way it should be, line up and whip the guy in front you ass. Now go fuck a goat while hope Uat chokes on a mountain of dicks and dies a painful death against Notre Dame.

Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: RWS on December 02, 2012, 10:20:22 PM
Bullshit.
Not bullshit.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=323360061&period=3
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=323360061&period=4
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: RWS on December 02, 2012, 10:45:20 PM
7-1 in flags with Uat's only flag an obvious delay of game.
Alabama had 2 penalties.

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However, with all due respect, when your fucking team is the least penalized team in the country in the last 5 years and the head man over SEC officials is a Uat grad, bammers don't need be telling me that the fucking officials ain't biased.
Alabama's fewest penalties per game national ranking:
2012: #6, 2011: #3, 2010: #24, 2009: #17, 2008: #5

Just as a note, Navy was the #1 least penalized team 3 out of those 5 years. They were the #2 least penalized team the two years they were not #1. 

Right now, Alabama is the least penalized team in the SEC.  The gap between Alabama and #2 Ole Miss?  4 penalties, 13 yards, and less than 2 ypg average penalties.  Even if you went with the ol' "Well whoever plays Bama gets penalized more", that would also be untrue.  In the SEC, Alabama ranks #9 in opponent penalties out of 14 teams.  I would look up other years, but can't figure out how to get that info on the SEC site.  In SEC games, Alabama has been penalized as much or more than the opponent in all but 3 games; vs LSU, AU, and UGA. The penalties against those 3 teams match up to their average penalties per game.  If you're saying the SEC refs are biased for Alabama, then they're biased towards Ole Miss as well.  The stats for the two are nearly identical.

Look, it's fine that you hate Alabama.  I get it.  That's cool.  But some of you bitch about our retarded fans trying to put an asterick by AU's 2010 season, all the while, you're trying to do the same damn thing to Alabama.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: GH2001 on December 03, 2012, 10:09:16 AM
I thought aside from a few things it was pretty evenly called. Bama was asleep at the wheel for a half. Once they woke up, it was over and you could tell. Georgia was even in it in the final mins because of a fluke special teams TD that rarely happens. The rushing stats tell the story.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: RWS on December 03, 2012, 02:54:50 PM
And by the book he knew to clock it w/o prompt but it's ok to blame Richt too.
He did know to clock it.  That's why, as he was running down the field to get to the line of scrimmage, he was looking at his sideline making the "clock it" motion.  They told him no and signaled in a play.  Richt confirmed in his presser that they did not want him to clock it, they wanted to run the play because they felt that Alabama would be unprepared to defend it.  Sooo, yeah, it is Richt's fault.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2012, 03:44:38 PM
When did everyone start saying "Clock it"?
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: GH2001 on December 03, 2012, 03:51:37 PM
He did know to clock it.  That's why, as he was running down the field to get to the line of scrimmage, he was looking at his sideline making the "clock it" motion.  They told him no and signaled in a play.  Richt confirmed in his presser that they did not want him to clock it, they wanted to run the play because they felt that Alabama would be unprepared to defend it.  Sooo, yeah, it is Richt's fault.

It's just a microcosm of the underachieving coach that he has been in general. Guy has had enough talent to build a starting 22 in the NFL. Until two years ago UGA was also the only team in the previous decade to have a top 10 class on rivals every year. Not even Texas or USC did it. And he has not a lot to show for it when you consider the talent he's had, the fan support at uga, the money and resources uga has and being the state school with no in state competition (sorry tech).

I hate saban as much as anyone but the fucker knows how to coach and knows how to win. He rarely has the lapses that a richt coached team exhibits regularly. More troublesome than anything to ga fans should be the fact that this was their year. The schedule set them up for a run. They are senior heavy. Lots of experience. And they still couldn't do it. If he couldn't this year, will richt ever be able to?
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2012, 04:00:37 PM
It's just a microcosm of the underachieving coach that he has been in general. Guy has had enough talent to build a starting 22 in the NFL. Until two years ago UGA was also the only team in the previous decade to have a top 10 class on rivals every year. Not even Texas or USC did it. And he has not a lot to show for it when you consider the talent he's had, the fan support at uga, the money and resources uga has and being the state school with no in state competition (sorry tech).

I hate saban as much as anyone but the fucker knows how to coach and knows how to win. He rarely has the lapses that a richt coached team exhibits regularly. More troublesome than anything to ga fans should be the fact that this was their year. The schedule set them up for a run. They are senior heavy. Lots of experience. And they still couldn't do it. If he couldn't this year, will richt ever be able to?

Agree with all of this.  But, the problem is...what can they do about it?  Pretty much nothing.  No way you can fire a guy who wins that consistently.  SECCG 2 years in a row.  10 wins or more every year.

He's proven he can't win the big ones but he still has them in a place where 90% of the rest of college football wants to be
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: GH2001 on December 03, 2012, 04:03:12 PM
Agree with all of this.  But, the problem is...what can they do about it?  Pretty much nothing.  No way you can fire a guy who wins that consistently.  SECCG 2 years in a row.  10 wins or more every year.

He's proven he can't win the big ones but he still has them in a place where 90% of the rest of college football wants to be

Except that wins total and sec east crown total are padded by beating patsies as the east was down for a while. As you said, He crumbles in big games. His record against top 10 and top 20 teams is horrid. He's not a big game coach. He got mad at the reporter because the truth hurt him.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: AWK on December 03, 2012, 04:09:30 PM
Except that wins total and sec east crown total are padded by beating patsies as the east was down for a while. As you said, He crumbles in big games. His record against top 10 and top 20 teams is horrid. He's not a big game coach. He got mad at the reporter because the truth hurt him.
He is 2 - 12 since 2008 against AP top 10 teams.
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 03, 2012, 04:16:01 PM
He is 2 - 12 since 2008 against AP top 10 teams.

That's gonna' leave a mark
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: dallaswareagle on December 03, 2012, 04:41:32 PM
He is 2 - 12 since 2008 against AP top 10 teams.
That's gonna' leave a mark

I wonder if JJ knows this? 
Title: Re: Hey Mark Richt...
Post by: GH2001 on December 03, 2012, 07:05:08 PM
He is 2 - 12 since 2008 against AP top 10 teams.

I rest my case good counselor