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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on November 25, 2012, 09:45:32 AM
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Let's be honest - Fisher and Stoops aren't coming. Jimbo either. Nor Pete Carroll, Rex ryan, or Sean Payton.
Would Petrino despite his baggage be the biggest splash or is there someone else?
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Unless radical changes are made personnel-wise in the athletic department, I think he may be the best "name" we can get at the moment. Whoever it is, I hope he's part carpenter, because he's got a lot of rebuilding ahead of him. He'll inherit a team that will require remedial work in learning to play fundamental football again, He'll face a divided fan base that will need to be pulled back together. Then, to top it off, he'll have to have the balls to tell the "old guard" that lurk in the shadows of our program to fuck off.
Whoever the new guy is; he's got a hell if a job ahead of him.
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Kinda obvious I believe so.
I will however add, I truly believe that BMFP can be the long term fix for Auburn. The guy is one of if not the top offensive mind in the country which is what Auburn needs most, imo. He will also put an end to this primadonna shit that has infected the players on the team. The man wins at a 75% clip and just to show you how good he can be, since the pigglets joined the SEC they have had 3 ten win seasons. 2 of them were Petrino's last 2 years. In the last 50 years before Petrino, Louisville won 9 or more games 5 times. BMFP won 9+ games every year he was there.
While we will be heckled like a motherfucker for hiring him, that shit would happen regaurdless. Since the updykes are winning big right now, the media is gonna suck their dicks till they get knocked from that perch. And what do updykes like to read more than an article praising their mullets? An article raking Auburn over the coals.
The only damn way Auburn is gonna get their respect back is to start whipping ass on the field again. And I'm not talking about no one year flash in the pan shit like 2010. We've got to start whipping as like Tubs and Dye did in their prime. Do that and the updykes will consume themselves like always do.
I just hope the higher ups pulling for BMFP can sell Gogue's ass on why Petrino is the answer. Lots of rumblings that it just might happen. The ceiling can be high when you've got a man who is hungry to redeem himself.
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As long as Jacobs is calling the shots, I have no faith in Auburn's ability to higher a quality coach.
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Before we hire a new coach the old one has to be fired.
Why in the hell have I not seen a thread telling me Chizik is gone?
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What Jarhead and Yoda said.
However to answer your question, no I don't believe so. There are other coaches who I think would be more than solid hires. Guys that I think we could get, now whether we would be smart enough to go after them is another story.
And for the record at this point I am ok with Petrino...why the fuck not.
Coaches:
David Shaw
Kyle Whittingham
Charlie Strong
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What Jarhead and Yoda said.
However to answer your question, no I don't believe so. There are other coaches who I think would be more than solid hires. Guys that I think we could get, now whether we would be smart enough to go after them is another story.
And for the record at this point I am ok with Petrino...why the fuck not.
Coaches:
David Shaw
Kyle Whittingham
Charlie Strong
One thing that worries me about Strong is that defense is suppose to be his forte. However, UL's giving up an average of about 25 ppg this year. Maybe its just me but I'd put him behind Gus.
Whittingham leaves me limp. I know he smashed Harvey U in the Sugar Bowl but since then I'd have to say he isn't even the top coach in the state if Utah. Maybe even 3rd, imo.
As for David Shaw. Hell yeah I would be fired up about that hire. Damn fine football coach who is about to do something Harbaugh didn't even do at Stanford, win the Pac 12. Definitely an A lister imo. However, can we get him is the question. No doubt what so ever Auburn is by far the superior job and would pay him a hell of alot more cash. But I still ain't sure Auburn could pull him from alma mater. Also lots of folks out there believe he is in line to get a HC gig in the NFL soon.
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As long as Jacobs is calling the shots, I have no faith in Auburn's ability to higher a quality coach.
Agreed. The conundrum: we need an new HC asap. I think that most of the better HC candidates will be hesitant about AU because of JJ, TJ and same old AU politics. If Dr. G fires the AD, does the committe hire a new HC and then an AD? Not likely. So, looks like we are stuck with JJ and thus an unimpressive hire if JJ stays.
I don't know how else to get the message across until people refuse to send money. JJ has to go in order for us to get a quality HC and time is wasting. We seem to evaluate things to death.
What potential HC in the country doesn't know about jet gate and all of the string pulling at AU?
At least get interim AD and let the committe hire the new HC.
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Let's be honest - Fisher and Stoops aren't coming. Jimbo either. Nor Pete Carroll, Rex ryan, or Sean Payton.
Would Petrino despite his baggage be the biggest splash or is there someone else?
I think we could get Jimbo Fisher if we threw the bank at him. FSU is struggling money-wise. But maybe he's happy there. Lot less pressure.
Petrino, is probably the only hire that would make a noticeable splash against the backdrop of the turds on another championship run.
Fact is, everything and everyone pales in comparison to what's going on across the state.
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Let's be honest - Fisher and Stoops aren't coming. Jimbo either. Nor Pete Carroll, Rex ryan, or Sean Payton.
Would Petrino despite his baggage be the biggest splash or is there someone else?
I don't want anyone but Bobby Petrino.
And I think he will stick around once everyone learns the protocol.
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Seems like a good place to state that I am not in favor of Malzahn as head coach. Four years ago I did not understand why Chizik would even get an interview, as I took some of his comments on his way out the door after 2004 to be derogatory towards Auburn. Malzahn's departure felt a bit similar this year. Also see as drawbacks his wife's comments and his handling of Dyer, or lack thereof.
I still fault Malzahn for the loss at Clemson last year, for getting away from gashing them with Dyer in the first half, and answering Clemson's long drive with a bubble-screen-infested 3-and-out. Roof's D had no time to grab a cup and huddle on the sideline before they had to get back out there for another long drive. They just cut a 14-point lead in half, and Malzahn doesn't even buy enough time for the defensive coaches to make adjustments on the sideline before they are back out there dealing with that hunh bullshit again.
I see Malzahn's overpayment for performance last year only surpassed by Chizik's.
(Now watch them go pay off Ark State and hire him) :facepalm:
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I see Malzahn's overpayment for performance last year only surpassed by Chizik's.
(Now watch them go pay off Ark State and hire him) :facepalm:
That would be a Jacobs like move. Take a B list coach and make him the top target. :sad:
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Petrino, Jimbo Fisher & Charlie Strong are the only 3 coaches I'll be happy with.
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I know that Chris Petersen has a special needs child and gets treatment in Boise. But shit he makes 1.7 million lets give him 5 million and let him turn us down.
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My list:
Butch Jones
Bobby Petrino
Gary Patterson
Jim Mora, Jr
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Houston Nutt has just removed his name from consideration.
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I know that Chris Petersen has a special needs child and gets treatment in Boise. But shit he makes 1.7 million lets give him 5 million and let him turn us down.
I'd love to get him. However, seems I've heard someone that spent some time with him interviewing him at his home say that he has no interests in the pressure cooker of truly big time BCS footall, when he can make 1.7, win like he has, always be "the little guy underdog."
I don't think he'd leave, but if we're going to dream of trying and buy someone, Coach Boom has proven enough to me that he's ready for primetime, and may be the best branch in the Saban Coaching Tree. He's making 2.75Mil as I understand it. Carry a brown paper bag with 20Mil in it, hand it to him, and say, "It's yours in advance, in exchange for 4 years guarenteed."
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Coach Boom has proven enough to me that he's ready for primetime, and may be the best branch in the Saban Coaching Tree. He's making 2.75Mil as I understand it. Carry a brown paper bag with 20Mil in it, hand it to him, and say, "It's yours in advance, in exchange for 4 years guarenteed."
That is probably one of the few names that would make Alabama fans worried. I know I would be. At first, I wasn't sure how he was going to work out at UF. They're not quite a perennial contender yet, but I have no reason to doubt that they will be starting in 2013. Doing things like a radical change in systems are things that have done tenured coaches in. Relatively speaking, he made it look easy.
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That is probably one of the few names that would make Alabama fans worried. I know I would be. At first, I wasn't sure how he was going to work out at UF. They're not quite a perennial contender yet, but I have no reason to doubt that they will be starting in 2013. Doing things like a radical change in systems are things that have done tenured coaches in. Relatively speaking, he made it look easy.
His team isn't soft, and they could hold up to running the ball and playing defense, without a real QB. That's just what they did.
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No question we need to make a splash and do something, anything to make the Maroon Elephags the least bit worried about the future. At the same time, Bobby Petrino needs a spot to put Arkansas behind him and remind CFB how good of a program he can run. This is the perfect fit IMO.
Bobby bounced the NFL in the same fashion as Saban and also, like Nick, he's won elsewhere. Where the pro-style offense failed to take off for us, Bobby and (most likely) Paul would bring the high-octane offense we saw with the Hogs to Pat Dye field. Bobby is an excellent play-caller and speaking of fundamentals...the guy is known for his intense practices. The poor fundamental squad Chizik leaves behind will be tested with a massive change of pace under Petrino and I don't pulls any punches when it comes to getting rid of the primadonnas who don't want to get aboard.
Say what you want about his character but the man is a fine recruiter and he knows how to develop talent. Most important, Bobby is already familiar with the Tide and spent a lot of time game planning a way to beat them. It's gotta be Bobby or bust... Peterson isn't leaving the Boise ranch for Auburn and bringing Gus back as head coach is just too familiar to the era we need to put behind the program.
Oh..and hai btw. I'm new. :thumsup:
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No question we need to make a splash and do something, anything to make the Maroon Elephags the least bit worried about the future. At the same time, Bobby Petrino needs a spot to put Arkansas behind him and remind CFB how good of a program he can run. This is the perfect fit IMO.
Bobby bounced the NFL in the same fashion as Saban and also, like Nick, he's won elsewhere. Where the pro-style offense failed to take off for us, Bobby and (most likely) Paul would bring the high-octane offense we saw with the Hogs to Pat Dye field. Bobby is an excellent play-caller and speaking of fundamentals...the guy is known for his intense practices. The poor fundamental squad Chizik leaves behind will be tested with a massive change of pace under Petrino and I don't pulls any punches when it comes to getting rid of the primadonnas who don't want to get aboard.
Say what you want about his character but the man is a fine recruiter and he knows how to develop talent. Most important, Bobby is already familiar with the Tide and spent a lot of time game planning a way to beat them. It's gotta be Bobby or bust... Peterson isn't leaving the Boise ranch for Auburn and bringing Gus back as head coach is just too familiar to the era we need to put behind the program.
Oh..and hai btw. I'm new. :thumsup:
I agree.
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I agree.
About what he said or that he is new?
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No question we need to make a splash and do something, anything to make the Maroon Elephags the least bit worried about the future. At the same time, Bobby Petrino needs a spot to put Arkansas behind him and remind CFB how good of a program he can run. This is the perfect fit IMO.
Bobby bounced the NFL in the same fashion as Saban and also, like Nick, he's won elsewhere. Where the pro-style offense failed to take off for us, Bobby and (most likely) Paul would bring the high-octane offense we saw with the Hogs to Pat Dye field. Bobby is an excellent play-caller and speaking of fundamentals...the guy is known for his intense practices. The poor fundamental squad Chizik leaves behind will be tested with a massive change of pace under Petrino and I don't pulls any punches when it comes to getting rid of the primadonnas who don't want to get aboard.
Say what you want about his character but the man is a fine recruiter and he knows how to develop talent. Most important, Bobby is already familiar with the Tide and spent a lot of time game planning a way to beat them. It's gotta be Bobby or bust... Peterson isn't leaving the Boise ranch for Auburn and bringing Gus back as head coach is just too familiar to the era we need to put behind the program.
Oh..and hai btw. I'm new. :thumsup:
In bold: On what do you base this? Pretty much agree with the rest.
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About what he said or that he is new?
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In bold: On what do you base this? Pretty much agree with the rest.
You didnt notice the serious upswing in prep school skill position talent at Arkansas? His first recruiting class consisted of Jarius Wright, Joe Adams, Greg Childs, Chris Gragg, and Tyler Wilson.
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Patrino or Tubberville.
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No question we need to make a splash and do something, anything to make the Maroon Elephags the least bit worried about the future. At the same time, Bobby Petrino needs a spot to put Arkansas behind him and remind CFB how good of a program he can run. This is the perfect fit IMO.
Bobby bounced the NFL in the same fashion as Saban and also, like Nick, he's won elsewhere. Where the pro-style offense failed to take off for us, Bobby and (most likely) Paul would bring the high-octane offense we saw with the Hogs to Pat Dye field. Bobby is an excellent play-caller and speaking of fundamentals...the guy is known for his intense practices. The poor fundamental squad Chizik leaves behind will be tested with a massive change of pace under Petrino and I don't pulls any punches when it comes to getting rid of the primadonnas who don't want to get aboard.
Say what you want about his character but the man is a fine recruiter and he knows how to develop talent. Most important, Bobby is already familiar with the Tide and spent a lot of time game planning a way to beat them. It's gotta be Bobby or bust... Peterson isn't leaving the Boise ranch for Auburn and bringing Gus back as head coach is just too familiar to the era we need to put behind the program.
Oh..and hai btw. I'm new. :thumsup:
Welcome to the board Bobby. Stay off them motorcycles.
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Welcome to the board Bobby. Stay off them motorcycles.
Hey, Auburn needs to buy Bobby 2 Harleys, one for him, and one for his blonde girlfriend, that is also provided for him. Maybe 2 blondes.
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In bold: On what do you base this? Pretty much agree with the rest.
At the skill positions he recruited well. Considering where he was, he recruited about as good as could be expected.
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I think Kirby Smart or James Franklin would be good hires.
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I think Kirby Smart or James Franklin would be good hires.
i don't disagree the problem with Smart is we can't take a risk on an unproven.
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I think Kirby Smart or James Franklin would be good hires.
I don't want us being ANYONE's first hc gig. Period.
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Gary Patterson.
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i don't disagree the problem with Smart is we can't take a risk on an unproven.
I hope that Smart is waiting around for Alabama to open up. I would be surprised to see Saban coach past 2015. Looking at it from Smart's point of view, there aren't many programs that would be as set as Alabama from a talent and overall standpoint. You would be walking into a ready-to-win situation. IMO, that is worth waiting a few years. This scenario may explain why he has reportedly turned down HC job offers in the past.
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i don't disagree the problem with Smart is we can't take a risk on an unproven.
Understand. I just think Smart is similar to a Muschamp hire. I wouldn't consider many without HC experience. He is prob the hottest name among coordinators but that doesn't necessarily mean anything. He prob wouldn't come anyway, after talking to Muschamp.