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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Snaggletiger on October 10, 2012, 10:45:33 AM
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A couple of things about this piece. I noticed that Porsche was inexplicably absent much of the game Saturday. Calling running plays out of a 1-back set with an All-American fullback on the bench just doesn't sit well with me. Smash-mouth? Streeeeetch-mouth. Also, what exactly do you need to cut from this offense? We only have 3 running plays and 4 bad pass plays. And to pile on....when your line isn't blocking a gawtdamn soul, you might want to make at least ONE attempt to use your All-World tight end...occasionally. Sorry, a little cynical right now about our O. copypasta al.com
AUBURN, Alabama -- Fullback Jay Prosch was handed the first carry of his Auburn career on Saturday. Prosch barreled his way for three yards up the middle, a role that could be expanded in the future. "We’re starting to open up a little bit where we can get him the ball some, which I think is good," head coach Gene Chizik said. "He’s a very powerful runner."
Prosch's playing time has been spotty. On Saturday, Prosch was used mainly as an H-back. The Tigers also deployed several single-back sets that kept Prosch on the sidelines. Keeping Prosch in the game is a priority for Auburn. "Jay being on the field is something that we have to do more, not just from his leadership standpoint and the respect that he has from all the players, but the value that he brings for us out there in terms of physicality," Chizik said.
** Quan Bray will not automatically resume his roles as a slot receiver and punt returner. "We’re going to see where he fits," Chizik said. "He’s going to have to work his way back into whatever role he gets for Saturday.â€
** Both Dee Ford and Chris Davis are battling injuries. Ford said he expected to play Sunday night. "Injury-wise right now I think both of those guys are a little beat up, but again we’ll know more with those guys as the week goes on,†Chizik said.
** Auburn may cut down on the size of its offensive game plan this week. "I think we might have been doing a little bit too much," Chizik said. "Let’s go into the game and execute the plan to the best of our ability after looking at things and trying to maybe cut it down a little bit."
** Chizik had high praise for the Ole Miss hurry-up scheme. "I know Hugh Freeze has done a really, really good job wherever he’s been with the offense and with the scheme that he’s got and with the production that he’s had," Chizik said. "You can really see them growing in confidence."
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"Jay being on the field is something that we have to do more, not just from his leadership standpoint and the respect that he has from all the players, but the value that he brings for us out there in terms of physicality," Chizik said.
So coach didn't realize this prior to the games we've lost?
Seems like something a good head coach would do. You know, analyze the team and be prepared for the games before they happen.
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A couple of things about this piece. I noticed that Porsche was inexplicably absent much of the game Saturday. Calling running plays out of a 1-back set with an All-American fullback on the bench just doesn't sit well with me. Smash-mouth? Streeeeetch-mouth. Also, what exactly do you need to cut from this offense? We only have 3 running plays and 4 bad pass plays. And to pile on....when your line isn't blocking a gawtdamn soul, you might want to make at least ONE attempt to use your All-World tight end...occasionally. Sorry, a little cynical right now about our O. copypasta al.com
AUBURN, Alabama -- Fullback Jay Prosch was handed the first carry of his Auburn career on Saturday. Prosch barreled his way for three yards up the middle, a role that could be expanded in the future. "We’re starting to open up a little bit I guess being 1 and 4 will do that for ya. :facepalm: where we can get him the ball some, which I think is good," head coach Gene Chizik said. "He’s a very powerful runner."
Prosch's playing time has been spotty. On Saturday, Prosch was used mainly as an H-back. The Tigers also deployed several single-back sets that kept Prosch on the sidelines. Keeping Prosch in the game is a priority for Auburn. "Jay being on the field is something that we have to do more, not just from his leadership standpoint and the respect that he has from all the players, but the value that he brings for us out there in terms of physicality," Chizik said.
** Quan Bray will not automatically resume his roles as a slot receiver and punt returner. "We’re going to see where he fits," Chizik said. "He’s going to have to work his way back into whatever role he gets for Saturday.â€
** Both Dee Ford and Chris Davis are battling injuries. Ford said he expected to play Sunday night. "Injury-wise right now I think both of those guys are a little beat up, but again we’ll know more with those guys as the week goes on,†Chizik said.
** Auburn may cut down on the size of its offensive game plan this week. "I think we might have been doing a little bit too much," Good fucking god how much more simple can we be-I look for 3 sweep runs and a punt and every other drive an interception and which is it we are going to cut down or we are going to open it up? :facepalm:Chizik said. "Let’s go into the game and execute the plan to the best of our ability after looking at things and trying to maybe cut it down a little bit."
** Chizik had high praise for the Ole Miss hurry-up scheme. "I know Hugh Freeze has done a really, really good job wherever he’s been with the offense and with the scheme that he’s got and with the production that he’s had," Chizik said. "You can really see them growing in confidence."This must be nice someone let me know when it happens to us. :facepalm:
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So coach didn't realize this prior to the games we've lost?
Seems like something a good head coach would do. You know, analyze the team and be prepared for the games before they happen.
Hindsight is 50/50
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Since when does "opening it up" on offense involve the fullback dive play for a pro-style offense? This ain't Navy or Georgia Tech. :facepalm:
And who are we starting at QB? Has that been decided or are they both working with the 1s?
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Also, what exactly do you need to cut from this offense?
The toss sweep to McCalebb
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We're starting to open it up...but...we're going to cut down on the size of the offensive game plan.
But what we have left once we cut it down...we're really going to open that up.
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We're starting to open it up...but...we're going to cut down on the size of the offensive game plan.
But what we have left once we cut it down...we're really going to open that up.
and while we are at it what is the deal with the name of this thread?
It certainly is not about our defense.
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Starting QB Still Up For Grabs
AUBURN — The starting quarterback position is still open for the taking at Auburn as Kiehl Frazier and Clint Moseley each vie for the role in Saturday’s game with Ole Miss.
“We’ll go through it, and we’ll look at it starting (today),†Auburn coach Gene Chizik said Tuesday morning. “We’ll make a decision later in the week.â€
http://progress.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20121010/SPORTS0402/310100035/Auburn-Notebook-Starting-QB-position-still-up-grabs?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Frontpage|s (http://progress.montgomeryadvertiser.com/article/20121010/SPORTS0402/310100035/Auburn-Notebook-Starting-QB-position-still-up-grabs?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Frontpage|s)
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and while we are at it what is the deal with the name of this thread?
It certainly is not about our defense.
I was referring to one of my marathon love making sessions.
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On the QB, I'm hoping they go with Frazzers. I'm well aware how bad he's been but I honestly believe he can improve with more game experience. Other than holding on to the ball too long Saturday and taking a couple of unnecessary sacks, he didn't play badly. His numbers were decent. I'm really looking at the big picture in that no how, no way is Clint Moseley our future at QB. I'd like to see Fraysher improve to the point of being serviceable, whatever that means, by year's end. We go into next season with a QB who has a full season under his belt and hope that Johnson turns out to be as-advertised and we can work him in during the season.
On top of everything else, I don't want to spend the next game playing musical quarterbacks with Moseley and Kalil.
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On the QB, I'm hoping they go with Frazzers. I'm well aware how bad he's been but I honestly believe he can improve with more game experience. Other than holding on to the ball too long Saturday and taking a couple of unnecessary sacks, he didn't play badly. His numbers were decent. I'm really looking at the big picture in that no how, no way is Clint Moseley our future at QB. I'd like to see Fraysher improve to the point of being serviceable, whatever that means, by year's end. We go into next season with a QB who has a full season under his belt and hope that Johnson turns out to be as-advertised and we can work him in during the season.
On top of everything else, I don't want to spend the next game playing musical quarterbacks with Moseley and Kalil.
I don't know this could be hard for the defense to scheme- One who did not play worth a shit last year against one who has not played worth a shit this year.
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On the QB, I'm hoping they go with Frazzers. I'm well aware how bad he's been but I honestly believe he can improve with more game experience. Other than holding on to the ball too long Saturday and taking a couple of unnecessary sacks, he didn't play badly. His numbers were decent. I'm really looking at the big picture in that no how, no way is Clint Moseley our future at QB. I'd like to see Fraysher improve to the point of being serviceable, whatever that means, by year's end. We go into next season with a QB who has a full season under his belt and hope that Johnson turns out to be as-advertised and we can work him in during the season.
On top of everything else, I don't want to spend the next game playing musical quarterbacks with Moseley and Kalil.
Let fuckin Jonathan Wallace go sling it, what difference does it make.
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Let fuckin Jonathan Wallace go sling it, what difference does it make.
Prolly no blueprint for him. :facepalm:
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Prolly no blueprint for him. :facepalm:
I doubt Dye has approved this.
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I doubt Dye has approved this.
He hasn't had time, what with working hand in hand with Jay to get some "All is well" memos sent to the big money boys.
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He hasn't had time, what with working hand in hand with Jay to get some "All is well" memos sent to the big money boys.
Shhhh that's confidential!
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Let fuckin Jonathan Wallace go sling it, what difference does it make.
Regardless of what Pat Dye says I still think Wallace is our man on the bench who doesn't belong there. He's natural and they are wasting valuable game experience with Kyle who hasn't shown me much at all. Kyle has a good arm, but I never know who will end up with the ball, us or them.
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Regardless of what Pat Dye says I still think Wallace is our man on the bench who doesn't belong there. He's natural and they are wasting valuable game experience with Kyle who hasn't shown me much at all. Kyle has a good arm, but I never know who will end up with the ball, us or them.
What's so great about Wallace? He never got his picture on bubblegum cards, did he? Have you ever seen his picture on a bubblegum card? Hmmm? How can you say someone is great who's never had his picture on bubblegum cards?
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What's so great about Wallace? He never got his picture on bubblegum cards, did he? Have you ever seen his picture on a bubblegum card? Hmmm? How can you say someone is great who's never had his picture on bubblegum cards?
Good grief
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The Grovers have to be overconfident. I say we play a four corners stall, get them in foul trouble and then dazzle them with our special teams play.
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The Grovers have to be overconfident. I say we play a four corners stall, get them in foul trouble and then dazzle them with our special teams play.
Follow this game plan and we win by 3 goals.
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** Auburn may cut down on the size of its offensive game plan this week. "I think we might have been doing a little bit too much," Good fucking god how much more simple can we be-I look for 3 sweep runs and a punt and every other drive an interception and which is it we are going to cut
You've seen Loefflers game plan sheet, no? Frazier's wristband? They have a lot of plays on them. You just don't get to see them because they try to do so much in preparation, they never get past the base offense in a game to set up the other shit they want to do, because they're not good at anything. Mason and Blakely averaged over 5 yards a carry vs Ark. but only combined for 13 carries. Not going to set up much play action with that. No fear of the run. Seems to me Loeffler is lost on how to implement and execute a game plan. Combine that with shitty OL and QB play, and you got....The Auburn Offense. We have no identity. No idea what we're trying to be. Somebody else said it...Loeffler is in over his head. Little details make an offense effective, not a voluminous playbook. For instance, the play where Moseley through the pic in the endzone trying to throw to Lutz. They ran smash to that side. WR runs a slant, inside receiver (Lutz) runs a corner, breaks the route off, and aims for the back pylon. Simple read for the QB. CB bails, throw the slant, if he sits on the slant, throw the corner, and the detail that makes it go? How you throw the corner route. Needs air under it, and place where only your guy can get it near the back pylon. Clint threw it too flat, and too short, presumably because they had glossed over that detail in practice, probably in favor of installing another play, or repping more numbers of plays rather than getting good at a few.
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Follow this game plan and we win by 3 goals.
We suck at shooting free throws though.
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We suck at shooting free throws though.
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Mmm...makes me want to Rob one out.
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Mmm...makes me want to Rob one out.
That's some 2010 level hustle there, sir.
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You've seen Loefflers game plan sheet, no? Frazier's wristband? They have a lot of plays on them. You just don't get to see them because they try to do so much in preparation, they never get past the base offense in a game to set up the other shit they want to do, because they're not good at anything. Mason and Blakely averaged over 5 yards a carry vs Ark. but only combined for 13 carries. Not going to set up much play action with that. No fear of the run. Seems to me Loeffler is lost on how to implement and execute a game plan. Combine that with shitty OL and QB play, and you got....The Auburn Offense. We have no identity. No idea what we're trying to be. Somebody else said it...Loeffler is in over his head. Little details make an offense effective, not a voluminous playbook. For instance, the play where Moseley through the pic in the endzone trying to throw to Lutz. They ran smash to that side. WR runs a slant, inside receiver (Lutz) runs a corner, breaks the route off, and aims for the back pylon. Simple read for the QB. CB bails, throw the slant, if he sits on the slant, throw the corner, and the detail that makes it go? How you throw the corner route. Needs air under it, and place where only your guy can get it near the back pylon. Clint threw it too flat, and too short, presumably because they had glossed over that detail in practice, probably in favor of installing another play, or repping more numbers of plays rather than getting good at a few.
Has anyone popped in tapes of Temple last year? What did their O look like? Did it look like an O with no identity? Why are we so sure that Lefty is in over his head? Could it be that he doesn't have shit to work with no matter what he tries? Could he be getting to much input from the head guy on what to run and what to do? It would seem like the ringing endorsements he had that he might actually have a clue.......I don't know, it's why I am asking.
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Has anyone popped in tapes of Temple last year? What did their O look like? Did it look like an O with no identity? Why are we so sure that Lefty is in over his head? Could it be that he doesn't have shit to work with no matter what he tries? Could he be getting to much input from the head guy on what to run and what to do? It would seem like the ringing endorsements he had that he might actually have a clue.......I don't know, it's why I am asking.
JMO, but I blamed Gus for the poor play calling and QB shuffle last season thinking Chizik was in his ear to counteract Roof's incompetence. And while some of it might be on Malzahn he had the benefit of a few years unimpeded whereas Loeffler could be getting undermined from the start.
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Has anyone popped in tapes of Temple last year? What did their O look like? Did it look like an O with no identity? Why are we so sure that Lefty is in over his head? Could it be that he doesn't have shit to work with no matter what he tries? Could he be getting to much input from the head guy on what to run and what to do? It would seem like the ringing endorsements he had that he might actually have a clue.......I don't know, it's why I am asking.
I do recall seeing some film but not enough to know if it was anything different from what he's doing here. Temple was 9-4 last year and averaged 31 ppg. Not stellar offensive totals but very run oriented averaging 252 yards per game and passing for only 126 a game. They had one bad ass running back who rushed for almost 1,500 yards so I imagine he was able to lean on him pretty much.
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I do recall seeing some film but not enough to know if it was anything different from what he's doing here. Temple was 9-4 last year and averaged 31 ppg. Not stellar offensive totals but very run oriented averaging 252 yards per game and passing for only 126 a game. They had one bad ass running back who rushed for almost 1,500 yards so I imagine he was able to lean on him pretty much.
We got three badass RBs and a bodacious FB. We'll be lucky if we have 1500 yds total rushing this season.
At the end of the MSU game, they threw the ball to Bray across the formation short several times in a row. Where the hell has that play been since? Has it been there and we choose to go long?
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Has anyone popped in tapes of Temple last year? What did their O look like? Did it look like an O with no identity? Why are we so sure that Lefty is in over his head? Could it be that he doesn't have shit to work with no matter what he tries? Could he be getting to much input from the head guy on what to run and what to do? It would seem like the ringing endorsements he had that he might actually have a clue.......I don't know, it's why I am asking.
JMHO, but I think Chiz hired him for the precise reason that he could tell him what offense to run, and with what philosophy. In that respect, he's in over his head. Some of it may be, has to be on him, and some on the talent, particularly QB. Still, the offense is beyond dreadful.