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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: JR4AU on October 06, 2012, 06:16:18 PM
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Strangly, I don't.
Auburn's Gene Chizik apologizes: 'The Auburn fans and family didn't deserve this today'
By Charles Goldberg | cgoldberg@al.com
on October 06, 2012 at 3:26 PM, updated October 06, 2012 at 3:59 PM
AUBURN, Alabama – Gene Chizik couldn't and didn't sugarcoat his team's loss to Arkansas on Saturday.
The Auburn coach apologized to fans after the Razorbacks beat his Tigers 24-7 in Jordan-Hare Stadium. Auburn fell to 1-4 overall and 0-3 in the SEC, its worst start in the league since 1998.
"The Auburn fans and family didn't deserve this today. I apologize," Chizik said.
"We understand where we're at. We've won one game. What I saw out there today was very disappointing versus the quality of our practice and the game. That's on us."
Also:
"It was a completely unacceptable offensive performance all the way around."
And:
"I didn't see the fans leave, but I don't blame them."
Arkansas came in with the worst defense in the SEC, but Auburn struggled the whole way. The Tigers were sacked eight times and had five turnovers.
"It was a completely unacceptable offensive performance," Chizik said.
Chizik said he was disappointed, especially since the Tigers had two weeks to prepare for the game.
"All around, it was a team loss. We're going to go back and work. We're going to try to figure out how to fix it," Chizik said.
Chizik said he changed quarterbacks – Clint Moseley for Kiehl Frazier at half – in an effort to find a spark. Offensive coordinator Scot Loeffler said the coaches would determine next week's starter later, perhaps Sunday.
"I'm not going to blame everything on the quarterback," Chizik said. "We're going to go back and re-evaluate a lot of things.
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2012/10/auburns_gene_chizik_apologizes.html#incart_river
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Strangly, I don't.
http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2012/10/auburns_gene_chizik_apologizes.html#incart_river
He should have started last season with this.
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The changes need to be made on the OL. With the way we've been blocking, we could have Cam back there and still be looking at a losing record through 5 games...Absolutely horrible.
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The changes need to be made on the OL. With the way we've been blocking, we could have Cam back there and still be looking at a losing record through 5 games...Absolutely horrible.
I forgot what you said-What bowl game does this team make?
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I forgot what you said-What bowl game does this team make?
Iron Bowl
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Iron Bowl
That game is going to be ugly.
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Iron Bowl
:woot: :dance2:
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The changes need to be made on the OL. With the way we've been blocking, we could have Cam back there and still be looking at a losing record through 5 games...Absolutely horrible.
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST DUDE.
I watched Florida and LSU. Not once did I see either quarterback look like a spastic ostrich with a perforated colon.
Did you see Clints shit eating ass cringe? Literally CRINGE when a guy was about 10 yards away? He tucked and wobbled. That's not OL. That's utterly shitty, cowardly, pussified quarterbacking.
We have other problems. But there is not a single leader on that team. Nobody with balls or confidence.
Shittiest performance I've seen. Just when I think the worst cant be topped? It is.
This is WORSE than the Barfield era. I'd take Doug back right now.
God help us.
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I don't feel better at all, not with gawga & the bamturds coming up. Shits gonna get a hell of alot worse than this living abortion put forth today. Fucking grotesque.
The only bowl we might get invited to is the toilet bowl, features the two most pathetic teams in the country.
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST DUDE.
I watched Florida and LSU. Not once did I see either quarterback look like a spastic ostrich with a perforated colon.
Did you see Clints shit eating ass cringe? Literally CRINGE when a guy was about 10 yards away? He tucked and wobbled. That's not OL. That's utterly shitty, cowardly, pussified quarterbacking.
We have other problems. But there is not a single leader on that team. Nobody with balls or confidence.
Shittiest performance I've seen. Just when I think the worst cant be topped? It is.
This is WORSE than the Barfield era. I'd take Doug back right now.
God help us.
I'd take Terry Bowden back today. I assure you, with these players, he'd have an offense that could score. 4 years from now? We'd be fucked.
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I'd take Terry Bowden back today. I assure you, with these players, he'd have an offense that could score. 4 years from now? We'd be fucked.
I think some said the same thing 4 years ago.
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I agree, it's not just the OL. But when you have the RT Oleing the DE straight into the QB more than once in the past two games and you have a RG that literally turns his back on a blitzing LBer, you have a problem. I'm not sure if it's a communication problem during the game or do they even practice against a scout team.
If the Offense wouldn't have channeled their MSU gameplan, regarding the stupid penalties & turnovers, also throw in EIGHT SACKS...basically if Auburn would've brought the Offense that played against Clemson, ULM or LSU they walk away with a W.
The Defense? Getting slightly better (Did you see the MLB stop the out pass dead in its tracks? That was Senior MLB #56 Ashton Richardson making that play).
The Offense? Horribly sporadic.
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I agree, it's not just the OL. But when you have the RT Oleing the DE straight into the QB more than once in the past two games and you have a RG that literally turns his back on a blitzing LBer, you have a problem. I'm not sure if it's a communication problem during the game or do they even practice against a scout team.
If the Offense wouldn't have channeled their MSU gameplan, regarding the stupid penalties & turnovers, also throw in EIGHT SACKS...basically if Auburn would've brought the Offense that played against Clemson, ULM or LSU they walk away with a W.
The Defense? Getting slightly better.
The Offense? Horribly sporadic.
All stems from coaching. Game 5 of the season after a buy week, these mistakes should not be being made after week 2. There are not signs of improvement. We have a few good plays mixed in with shit playing on both sides of the ball. It's bad, very bad. This season will be full of fail.
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Aaaaaaaaaaand he's back.
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Aaaaaaaaaaand he's back.
Jim?
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Aaaaaaaaaaand he's back.
Still no substance from you.
Let this sink in, whenever you have 5 turnovers and give up 8 sacks and go 3&out 5-6 times in a row, you aren't going to beat many D 1-AA teams or some 6A High School teams.
Also, if Coach Chizik wanted to â€add a spark†he should've brought in Jonathan Wallace not a QB that crumbles at the sight of pressure...especially when pressure was coming on nearly every passing play.
Wallace = Spark
Moseley = Dud
Thinking out loud here, maybe Coach Grimes isn't the type of coach that we thought he was, maybe he isn't able to coach a pro style offense that calls for different blocking schemes than the Spread offense that he's used to. (think back to the Hugh Nall-Pro Style/Tony Franklin debacle)
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Still no substance from you.
Let this sink in, whenever you have 5 turnovers and give up 8 sacks and go 3&out 5-6 times in a row, you aren't going to beat many D 1-AA teams or some 6A High School teams.
Also, if Coach Chizik wanted to â€add a spark†he should've brought in Jonathan Wallace not a QB that crumbles at the sight of pressure...especially when pressure was coming on nearly every passing play.
Wallace = Spark
Moseley = Dud
Thinking out loud here, maybe Coach Grimes isn't the type of coach that we thought he was, maybe he isn't able to coach a pro style offense that calls for different blocking schemes than the Spread offense that he's used to.
Credit where credit due, you go down swinging to the bitter end.
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I just watched the game again. I was more impressed with Moseley than I have been with KF all season. If to are going to pass the ball, at least get the passer ready to play. The interceptions were a product of sitting on the sidelines all year. But for the most part, he delivered the ball well. I did not see a guy that folded. I saw a less mobile QB. But I'm so tired of KF looking totally lost. It a sad predicament that an average backup looked more comfortable than the next coming of Kodi Burns!
I saw more catches from Reed and Blake in one half than I have seen all season.
So I would not call Moseley a dud. He is what we know he is.
I would have liked to have seen Wallace throw a few.
We were still in it till the 4th.
Just a sad day for AU football and I can't even begin to point out any less than 20 things that need fixing.
Sad. Sad. Sad.
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Credit where credit due, you go down swinging to the bitter end.
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I just watched the game again. I was more impressed with Moseley than I have been with KF all season. If to are going to pass the ball, at least get the passer ready to play. The interceptions were a product of sitting on the sidelines all year. But for the most part, he delivered the ball well. I did not see a guy that folded. I saw a less mobile QB. But I'm so tired of KF looking totally lost. It a sad predicament that an average backup looked more comfortable than the next coming of Kodi Burns!
I saw more catches from Reed and Blake in one half than I have seen all season.
So I would not call Moseley a dud. He is what we know he is.
I would have liked to have seen Wallace throw a few.
We were still in it till the 4th.
Just a sad day for AU football and I can't even begin to point out any less than 20 things that need fixing.
Sad. Sad. Sad.
Yeah, the dud part was due to him being a â€sparkâ€. Also, I agree if you're going to throw the ball more then put in the QB that can do that. But, WHY THE FUCK AREN'T WE TRYING TO USE JAY PROSCH MORE!?!?!?! It's like we over think the playcalling. Also, when using Frazier, WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T WE TRY TO ROLL THE DAMN POCKET?!?!?! (Told y'all I'd be pissed if I didn't see more than a couple roll out passes)
Loeffler ain't getting it done, let him concentrate on the QB position and have someone else coordinate the Offense (like Coach Luper)
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Yeah, the dud part was due to him being a â€sparkâ€. Also, I agree if you're going to throw the ball more then put in the QB that can do that. But, WHY THE FUCK AREN'T WE TRYING TO USE JAY PROSCH MORE!?!?!?! It's like we over think the playcalling. Also, when using Frazier, WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T WE TRY TO ROLL THE DAMN POCKET?!?!?! (Told y'all I'd be pissed if I didn't see more than a couple roll out passes)
Loeffler ain't getting it done, let him concentrate on the QB position and have someone else coordinate the Offense (like Coach Luper)
:haha: :bugs:
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Yeah, the dud part was due to him being a â€sparkâ€. Also, I agree if you're going to throw the ball more then put in the QB that can do that. But, WHY THE FUCK AREN'T WE TRYING TO USE JAY PROSCH MORE!?!?!?! It's like we over think the playcalling. Also, when using Frazier, WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T WE TRY TO ROLL THE DAMN POCKET?!?!?! (Told y'all I'd be pissed if I didn't see more than a couple roll out passes)
Loeffler ain't getting it done, let him concentrate on the QB position and have someone else coordinate the Offense (like Coach Luper)
I'm fairly sure Loeffler had to scratch some running plays. The offensive line did channel the MSU plan. Frazier looked like Frazier of the first half of the LSU game. It wasn't enough that Wilson came out slinging early. Our offensive line let Arky's maligned defense beat us in the trenches. And QBs (slow or fast) seldom look so good after the third or fourth sack and numerous hurries in one half. Still, I do think Moseley can find his secondary receiver for what its worth. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, the dud part was due to him being a â€sparkâ€. Also, I agree if you're going to throw the ball more then put in the QB that can do that. But, WHY THE FUCK AREN'T WE TRYING TO USE JAY PROSCH MORE!?!?!?! It's like we over think the playcalling. Also, when using Frazier, WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T WE TRY TO ROLL THE DAMN POCKET?!?!?! (Told y'all I'd be pissed if I didn't see more than a couple roll out passes)
Loeffler ain't getting it done, let him concentrate on the QB position and have someone else coordinate the Offense (like Coach Luper)
why are you stuck on luper?
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why are you stuck on luper?
Because I feel that he'd be a good OC.
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Moseley does still seem like the better passer at this point. Of course he isn't mobile and still crumbles under pressure but he seems to be able to hit short and middle range passes better when there's an open wr. Sometimes KF can't hit the broad side of a barn.
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Sometimes KF can't hit the broad side of a barn.
He couldn't hit the ocean while standing on the beach... he'd be sacked by the flag that tells you the water conditions.
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Mosely was doing the same pussy-assed flinch move as soon as a linebacker hiked a leg to cut a fart.
Fuck Moseley.
Frazier was doing much better (relatively) but the fucking OL couldn't keep anyone out of the backfield.
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Frazier was doing much better (relatively) but the fucking OL couldn't keep anyone out of the backfield.
It was bad. The OL looked shitastic.
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Because I feel that he'd be a good OC.
Based on what?
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Yeah, the dud part was due to him being a â€sparkâ€. Also, I agree if you're going to throw the ball more then put in the QB that can do that. But, WHY THE FUCK AREN'T WE TRYING TO USE JAY PROSCH MORE!?!?!?! It's like we over think the playcalling. Also, when using Frazier, WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T WE TRY TO ROLL THE DAMN POCKET?!?!?! (Told y'all I'd be pissed if I didn't see more than a couple roll out passes)
Loeffler ain't getting it done, let him concentrate on the QB position and have someone else coordinate the Offense (like Coach Luper)
I have a faint feeling Jay is wondering why in the Hell he came here and I bet Lutz regrets coming back for his senior year.
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I have a faint feeling Jay is wondering why in the Hell he came here and I bet Lutz regrets coming back for his senior year.
Lutz it seems is our best blocker on the perimeter. Would like to see Prosch taking twice as many snaps if only to keep the offensive line executing their assignments for fear of him climbing up their heels and calves. He can actually aid in opening running lanes for our smallish backs and everytime I saw him do something really well we bring him to the sideline for a breather. And for an offensive line that is struggling to protect, we get OMac blocking (or playing dead) instead of Prosch? Whom are we trying to confuse?
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Based on what?
Based on his offensive coaching background, his attention to detail (from his military background) and he has a Masters in Communication and working towards his Doctoral in Higher Education.
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Based on his offensive coaching background, his attention to detail (from his military background) and he has a Masters in Communication and working towards his Doctoral in Higher Education.
That's great yet you want to replace our current OC with an even more unproven one? Because unless his doctorate is specializing in how to make our current players score more than 1 TD.
Beides your HC Chizik had the opportunity to do that last year and choose not to.
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That's great yet you want to replace our current OC with an even more unproven one? Because unless his doctorate is specializing in how to make our current players score more than 1 TD.
Beides your HC Chizik had the opportunity to do that last year and choose not to.
Well we do have Quan uh no wait..what he said!
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That's great yet you want to replace our current OC with an even more unproven one? Because unless his doctorate is specializing in how to make our current players score more than 1 TD.
Beides your HC Chizik had the opportunity to do that last year and choose not to.
I think you, me or some other fans could call a better game than what we're seeing.
If the OL isn't blocking worth a shit call a screen pass to the side that's having a lot of trouble (when it's not expected)
Take Slade and put him in the stands, put in Kozan at RG
Take Miller out, put in Young (move Miller to Blocking TE)
Run more I Formation with Tre Mason
Call some fucking slant passes every once in a while.
Let Blakely run more (he fumbled the ball, so fucking what...everyone fumbled the ball)
Then run a HUNH running game to the strong side for a few series, mixing in some play action slant passes (wear down the Defense)
Tell Frazier that if his first option isn't open, then run the fucking ball
After the first TD of the game have a few offensive 3rd stringers rush the field with a shank and stab some of their defensive starters
Then have the those players take off the stabbed players' socks and shoes, then have them tie the socks to their facemasks
Easy Peasy
Championship
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I think you, me or some other fans could call a better game than what we're seeing.
If the OL isn't blocking worth a shoot call a screen pass to the side that's having a lot of trouble (when it's not expected)
Take Slade and put him in the stands, put in Kozan at RG
Take Miller out, put in Young (move Miller to Blocking TE)
Run more I Formation with Tre Mason
Call some fudgeing slant passes every once in a while.
Let Blakely run more (he fumbled the ball, so fudgeing what...everyone fumbled the ball)
Then run a HUNH running game to the strong side for a few series, mixing in some play action slant passes (wear down the Defense)
Tell Frazier that if his first option isn't open, then run the fudgeing ball
After the first TD of the game have a few offensive 3rd stringers rush the field with a shank and stab some of their defensive starters
Then have the those players take off the stabbed players' socks and shoes, then have them tie the socks to their facemasks
Easy Peasy
Championship
I am pretty sure that Young has a shoulder injury from HS, that is why Miller took his spot.
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I think you, me or some other fans could call a better game than what we're seeing.
If the OL isn't blocking worth a shit call a screen pass to the side that's having a lot of trouble (when it's not expected)
Take Slade and put him in the stands, put in Kozan at RG
Take Miller out, put in Young (move Miller to Blocking TE)
Run more I Formation with Tre Mason
Call some fucking slant passes every once in a while.
Let Blakely run more (he fumbled the ball, so fucking what...everyone fumbled the ball)
Then run a HUNH running game to the strong side for a few series, mixing in some play action slant passes (wear down the Defense)
Tell Frazier that if his first option isn't open, then run the fucking ball
After the first TD of the game have a few offensive 3rd stringers rush the field with a shank and stab some of their defensive starters
Then have the those players take off the stabbed players' socks and shoes, then have them tie the socks to their facemasks
Easy Peasy
Championship
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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I am pretty sure that Young has a shoulder injury from HS, that is why Miller took his spot.
I'd heard that, but no confirmation...then I'd heard that Miller wrestled the starting job away from Young (can't wrestle the job away if the player is being held out), then I heard that maybe people were getting OL Jordan Diamond's shoulder injury and Avery Young's absence twisted around.
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Quick observations. Yes, the defense did play better and has played much better the last two weeks/games. In both the LSU and Arky games, a huge chunk of the total yardage for both teams was amassed on the first two drives. I saw the ever popular "adjustments" made and a D that got after it. Disappointed in the let down right after we got back in the game but the bottom line for me is our offense does ANYTHING...not just Saturday but in every game we've played this year, we're looking at 4-1. That game Saturday was very winnable but again, the O sucked balls.
Pulling Frazzers was a pathetic move. Not saying that after the fact. I was saying at half that Frayzher had actually played his best 2 quarters of football. Anyone realize he was 9-14 for 131 yards at half? Great numbers? No, but solid. Yes, he could have thrown the ball away to save the sack a couple of times but the story at halftime was our D did little to pressure Wilson while Arky was whipping our O-line's collective asses and harrassing Kyle. As Prowlie has said many times, call some fucking roll outs, you stupid fucks.
Play calling? :facepalm: Granted, it's hard to be successful with any playcall when the O-line is in matador block mode all day. But, when we're sitting in the stands laughing, because we're literally calling every play before they run it, you've got major problems.
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Coach Chizik's average margin of defeat in 26 conference losses is:
20.8.
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I'd heard that, but no confirmation...then I'd heard that Miller wrestled the starting job away from Young (can't wrestle the job away if the player is being held out), then I heard that maybe people were getting OL Jordan Diamond's shoulder injury and Avery Young's absence twisted around.
Someone sitting next to Young's parents was told about the shoulder injury by his father. Sounds like he will continue to struggle with the shoulder for quite some time.
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Someone sitting next to Young's parents was told about the shoulder injury by his father. Sounds like he will continue to struggle with the shoulder for quite some time.
I'm guessing it's not bad enough to have surgery right now, just incase we have a rash of injuries. Sadly, his bum shoulder included he's probably better than half of the OLinemen at this time.
Btw, good to see you posting again Mrs. Petty.
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Btw, good to see you posting again Mrs. Petty.
What a shitty pick-up line...
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What a shitty pick-up line...
Be patient. He's breaking in a new system.
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What a shitty pick-up line...
What's your fucking deal man? How 'bout you stop following me around unless you want a elbow in your fucking throat.
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What's your fucking deal man? How 'bout you stop following me around unless you want a elbow in your fucking throat.
That deserves a
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That deserves a
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That deserves a
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Ummm yeah...I don't follow your dumbass posts and I'm not sure what there is to *snicker* about.
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Ummm yeah...I don't follow your dumbass posts
Fuck dude...
http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=12688.210 (http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=12688.210)
http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=19571.30 (http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=19571.30)
I'm not sure what there is to *snicker* about.
unless you want a elbow in your fucking throat.
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Fuck dude...
http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=12688.210 (http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=12688.210)
http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=19571.30 (http://www.tigersx.com/forum/index.php?topic=19571.30)
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What's all the snickerin' about?
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What's all the snickerin' about?
It really satisfies.
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i just want to know...will there be a t-shirt available?
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What's your fucking deal man? How 'bout you stop following me around unless you want a elbow in your fucking throat.
The Internet....it's for real.
Watch out WE!!
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Not goin' anywhere for a while?
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Is that our coaching game day face?
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And now, ladies and gentlemen...
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Hello darlin'