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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: War Eagle!!! on October 01, 2012, 09:46:33 AM
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I don't understand why this isn't being talked about more. Maybe it is and I am missing it, but it is crazy to me how a ref gets away with shit like this. Has Steve Shaw addressed this? Has the SEC addressed this? This goes beyond a missed call. This is giving a team a first down after 9 yards instead of 10. This is fixing the game. What the fuck?
(http://bit.ly/UBqGld)
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Love the look back just before finding the "Proper" placement.
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Love the look back just before finding the "Proper" placement.
Look back? Hell the SOB takes a small step, turns his foot sideways, looks back, and then places the ball IN FRONT of his foot.
As to the OP's question of, "why isn't this getting any pub?" The media knows better than to try to make an issue out of anything involving UAT. Weeman would cut off their limited access.
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I dunno this seems kind of insignificant to me.
I am much more surprised by the lack of holding calls.
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I dunno this seems kind of insignificant to me.
I am much more surprised by the lack of holding calls.
No calls on Bama holding has been going on for the last few years, I'm not surprised anymore.
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I dunno this seems kind of insignificant to me.
I am much more surprised by the lack of holding calls.
Giving bammer an unearned first down seems insignificant? I mean, hell, it's one thing to give a generous spot, but to "adjust it" after you've set your foot, while looking back to see where the marker is? Come on! And how many like this have gone unnoticed?
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Giving bammer an unearned first down seems insignificant? I mean, hell, it's one thing to give a generous spot, but to "adjust it" after you've set your foot, while looking back to see where the marker is? Come on! And how many like this have gone unnoticed?
I just don't buy the conspiracy theory is all.
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If that were a 4th down play with a tied score late in the 4th quarter, maybe I'm on board.
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We were watching the game and saw that when it happened. It was definitely a :rofl: RoflCopter moment.
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I just don't buy the conspiracy theory is all.
Conspiracy? Perhaps not in the traditional sense. There are ways to get the minions to buy in...cooperate without blatantly conspiring. And though the conspiracy may have many people involved, all the participants may not know every other one of the other participants.
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One thing I have noticed over the years is that when the game is in the air, those bastards get the benefit of the doubt on any call, spot, non-call, water bottle, dry football, goat fuck or bathroom line. Then, to make things appear "even" they get calls against them once the game is in hand. I realize I am wearing my super duper tinfoil hat and I hear a black helicopter circling the building as I type this, but that is what I have seen over the years.
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I just don't buy the conspiracy theory is all.
Talk to someone that has followed Auburn football since the '60's and see what they say about the subject.
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Talk to someone that has followed Auburn football since the '60's and see what they say about the subject.
Newjackphace!
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Talk to someone that has followed Auburn football since the '60's and see what they say about the subject.
I am not talking all theories... just this one.
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I am not talking all theories... just this one.
It's the same one dude.
It is not always significant, but it is always there...
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(http://i.imgur.com/ENE2w.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/ENE2w.jpg)
What bammer put that bullshit together?
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This doesn't have shit to do with whether he got the spot right and everything to do with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ms-Y7wODwKQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ms-Y7wODwKQ)
This shit just looks wrong. He was responsible for marking the ball. He marked it...and then moved it up. He may have realized that he was wrong and tried to correct it, but the fucked up way in which he did looks like he is trying to move the spot up so that the first down is met.
I have never seen a ref move a spot up quite like that before...
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This doesn't have shit to do with whether he got the spot right and everything to do with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ms-Y7wODwKQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ms-Y7wODwKQ)
This shit just looks wrong. He was responsible for marking the ball. He marked it...and then moved it up. He may have realized that he was wrong and tried to correct it, but the fucked up way in which he did looks like he is trying to move the spot up so that the first down is met.
I have never seen a ref move a spot up quite like that before...
^^^THIS!
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This doesn't have shit to do with whether he got the spot right and everything to do with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ms-Y7wODwKQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ms-Y7wODwKQ)
This shit just looks wrong. He was responsible for marking the ball. He marked it...and then moved it up. He may have realized that he was wrong and tried to correct it, but the fucked up way in which he did looks like he is trying to move the spot up so that the first down is met.
I have never seen a ref move a spot up quite like that before...
I saw the refs move a spot back just like that in the 1994 Iron Bowl.
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I saw the refs move a spot back just like that in the 1994 Iron Bowl.
Talk to someone that has followed Auburn football since the '60's and see what they say about the subject.
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Six spots by the ref, lmao.
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I don't understand why this isn't being talked about more. Maybe it is and I am missing it, but it is crazy to me how a ref gets away with shit like this. Has Steve Shaw addressed this? Has the SEC addressed this? This goes beyond a missed call. This is giving a team a first down after 9 yards instead of 10. This is fixing the game. What the fuck?
(http://bit.ly/UBqGld)
I can't believe uat alum, Steve Shaw, hasn't made a statement on the six spots that the ref gave them? (sarcasm)
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And the SEC's response is in via Tony Barnhart...
http://www.mrsec.com/2012/10/sec-explains-spot-of-the-ball-in-alabama-ole-miss-game/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mrseccom+%28MrSEC.com%29
Well, we started our day with the questionable spot in the Alabama/Ole Miss game and that’s where we’ll finish, too.
SEC associate commissioner Charles Bloom was kind enough — as usual — to respond to our query about the video you can watch below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5X1cElgBo4
Bloom’s response:
“On a 3rd down play at the 13:31 mark of the first quarter, an Alabama pass play was completed to the Alabama 32-yard line and signaled for a first down.
A YouTube video calls attention to the placement of the football. The following outlines the sequence of events leading up to the first down placement:
1) The receiver is down outstretched with the football inches shy of the 32 yard line and at the line to gain when his knees touch the ground;
2) The head linesman immediately stops the clock and gives Alabama the first down (By Rule, clock stops at the awarding of a first down);
3) The head linesman is seen stopping the clock and initially places the ball shy of where the football was declared dead and shy of the previously awarded first down;
4) The head linesman uses an incorrect mechanic in looking back to the first down marker to move the football back to the original correct spot;
5) Video review of this sequence confirms that the final spot of the ball is correct.â€
Now, this writer is not concerned with where the person controlling the video pauses it. That’s his opinion of when the ballcarrier’s knee hit the ground and his view and angle are different from those of the official marking the spot.
However, it does appear to me that the official runs in to spot the ball where he thought it should be marked, then looked back to the marker (incorrectly, as Bloom notes) to make sure he’s putting it where he’d lined it up initially.
Personally, I don’t think it looks like he marks the ball in the same spot as he initially meant to. But that’s my take. Officials — especially linesmen — would have a better idea of whether or not this mark was correct.
The key here — and I wish I’d picked up on it earlier — is that the linesman does stop the clock before marking the ball. That means that in his live-action view, the ballcarrier got past the first down marker. You can argue about where the ball was when the knee hit, but the official didn’t have the benefit of a high-angle camera and slow-motion eyesight. He saw the play, marked the spot, blew his whistle… and then tried to make sure he placed the ball where it had initially gone down (and I think he goofed on that front.)
In the end, though, what I believe and what Bloom says will be of little importance to those who feel an SEC official decided to give Alabama an extra foot of yardage because the game was being played in Tuscaloosa. Just as my beliefs and the US government’s statements about Area 51 aren’t going to convince some folks that little green men aren’t hanging out in Nevada helping to develop new iPhones.
It’s all in the eye of the beholder. Bloom and the SEC say the spot is correct. It’s looks to me like the official messed himself up and by using an incorrect mechanic and placed the ball at the wrong spot. While you may believe the 13 schools in the SEC not named Alabama are all happy to go along with a conspiracy to help Alabama beat them.
Personally, I really don’t care much one way or the other because a) bad spots and bad calls are going to happen — whether this was a bad one or not, and b) Alabama won the game 33-14 and this spot of the ball really didn’t have much of an impact on that outcome. The league should work to correct as many mistakes as possible and the league office has reviewed the tape and found — in its opinion — that the only problem was the linesman using an incorrect mechanic to spot the ball.
You’ve heard my take. You’ve heard the league’s take. Feel free to share yours.
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I saw the refs move a spot back just like that in the 1994 Iron Bowl.
I remember that one. We had the first down by a yard and a half to two yards, but wound up a yard short on the horrible spot.
I also recall Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson crawling 2 yards for a score in the 2007 Iron Bowl.
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I remember that one. We had the first down by a yard and a half to two yards, but wound up a yard short on the horrible spot.
I also recall Sarah Jessica Parker Wilson crawling 2 yards for a score in the 2007 Iron Bowl.
Went on the field after the A-Day game this year and saw him still laying on the 1 yard line.
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So, the Head Linesman, prematurely signals firs down, despite a non-measured close spot of the ball relative to the first down marker, so the spot is adjusted to fit his call, rather than a measurement of the spot to get it right, and that's ok?
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I remember that one. We had the first down by a yard and a half to two yards, but wound up a yard short on the horrible spot.
Frank Sanders, if I remember correctly. I was at that game.
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Frank Sanders, if I remember correctly. I was at that game.
Yes, I was there too...He got to the 39 and they moved the ball back to the 41.
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(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/Alabama/Fine_Spot.gif)
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--lsufreek-terrance-donnels-merges-passions-to-deliver-wildly-popular-art.html
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(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/Alabama/Fine_Spot.gif)
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaaf--lsufreek-terrance-donnels-merges-passions-to-deliver-wildly-popular-art.html
Dudes a fucking bad ass with an etch a sketch.
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He really is. How about that honey of his? She's fine as shit.
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He really is. How about that honey of his? She's fine as shoot.
Sorry what? I couldn't make out what you were saying. I lost focus staring at your avatar.