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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: JR4AU on September 23, 2012, 09:09:39 AM
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at least for the likes of Prowler. Not for me. 4 games in, and I can't find 5 more wins on this schedule.
09/01/12 vs. Clemson TV Atlanta, Ga. (Georgia Dome) L, 26-19
09/08/12 at Mississippi State * TV Starkville, Miss. L, 28-10
09/15/12 vs. Louisiana-Monroe TV Auburn, Ala. W, 31-28 (OT)
09/22/12 vs. LSU * Auburn, Ala. L, 12-10
10/06/12 vs. Arkansas * Auburn, Ala. TBA (Maybe)
10/13/12 at Ole Miss * Oxford, Miss. TBA (They are scoring but can't stop shit)
10/20/12 at Vanderbilt * Nashville, Tenn. TBA (?????)
10/27/12 vs. Texas A&M * Auburn, Ala. TBA (Loss)
11/03/12 vs. New Mexico State (HC) Auburn, Ala (Win). TBA
11/10/12 vs. Georgia * Auburn, Ala. TBA (Loss)
11/17/12 vs. Alabama A&M Auburn, Ala. TBA (Win)
11/24/12 at Alabama * Tuscaloosa, Ala. TB (Loss)
I still see 6-6, at best, and that's winning every swing game left, and I'll be honest, even though I listed some wins, I think this team is capable of losing to anybody.
I'll be honest, I fell asleep in my chair just after half time, and woke up with a minute and a half left in the game.
We, on paper, had our best defensive effort, vs a team that I have said may be coming apart at the seams anyway, and has played nobody...yet. Their offense is still shittasticly haphazzard. Not ready to announce our defense that much improved yet. They gave effort though. I'll give that.
Was glad to see Wallace get some PT. I think that's a sign changes are coming.
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How pathetic it is to say that wins over Ole Miss and Vandy are critical to the season?
Didn't those used to be givens?
The problem is that I don't care how well the defense plays or doesn't, this offense is an abortion bigger than 2008's Franklin fuckery. It's exponentially worse than that clusterfuck, which in about four games took down an entire historically successful regime.
The defense manages to play well and the offense doesn't show drastic improvement and we're 2008 all over again. Except worse.
The defense reverts back to the form it's shown over the last three years in all but two games? We're in uncharted territory. We're worse than 1998. We're 1975 and 1976 bad. Nobody saw that coming either. We'd won 9, 10, 9, 6 and 10 games in the five years before.
Unless the offense unfucks itself, you can go back through the entire annals of Auburn history and not find a bigger doomsday scenario.
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How pathetic it is to say that wins over Ole Miss and Vandy are critical to the season?
Didn't those used to be givens?
The problem is that I don't care how well the defense plays or doesn't, this offense is an abortion bigger than 2008's Franklin fuckery. It's exponentially worse than that clusterfuck, which in about four games took down an entire historically successful regime.
The defense manages to play well and the offense doesn't show drastic improvement and we're 2008 all over again. Except worse.
The defense reverts back to the form it's shown over the last three years in all but two games? We're in uncharted territory. We're worse than 1998. We're 1975 and 1976 bad. Nobody saw that coming either. We'd won 9, 10, 9, 6 and 10 games in the five years before.
Unless the offense unfucks itself, you can go back through the entire annals of Auburn history and not find a bigger doomsday scenario.
Is a season really salvaged if a team that should have, at least, won as many as last season, and been competitive in every game goes 6-6? Is a season really salvaged when the pizza bowl or bank bowl (whatever the fuck) people in Birmingham are really hyped about getting Auburn to play in Legion field, and we actually make their wish come true?
You people, yes YOU people, can gripe about play calling, QB doesn't fit the system, new coordinators need time, and all the other bullshit you want, which is nothing more than parroting what idiots say on the TV and radio, and don't know jack shit about. There's a shitload more to it than any of that. Something at the very core is wrong. And yes, it's worse than 2008, by a damn sight.
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Is a season really salvaged if a team that should have, at least, won as many as last season, and been competitive in every game goes 6-6? Is a season really salvaged when the pizza bowl or bank bowl (whatever the fuck) people in Birmingham are really hyped about getting Auburn to play in Legion field, and we actually make their wish come true?
You people, yes YOU people, can gripe about play calling, QB doesn't fit the system, new coordinators need time, and all the other bullshit you want, which is nothing more than parroting what idiots say on the TV and radio, and don't know jack shit about. There's a shitload more to it than any of that. Something at the very core is wrong. And yes, it's worse than 2008, by a damn sight.
It could be worst: At least were are not Iowa. (yet)
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Call me crazy, but I see aTm as at least a possible win.
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Something besides how well our defense played last night surprised me, are the similarities of last nights game compared to the "greatest game ever" part 1. If you think about it they were very much alike, neither offense did much and it came down to field possession and special teams.
Similar games but will be viewed totally different.
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You people, yes YOU people, can gripe about play calling, QB doesn't fit the system, new coordinators need time, and all the other bullshit you want, which is nothing more than parroting what idiots say on the TV and radio, and don't know jack shit about. There's a shitload more to it than any of that. Something at the very core is wrong. And yes, it's worse than 2008, by a damn sight.
If any part of what I said is included in this little diddy of a post then its very obvious you have
mis-interpreted what I said. Even then, I am very disappointed in this Auburn team and my opinions
are a very few of the things I see what is wrong. But, just in case, you can go fuck yourself for good
measure.
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Something besides how well our defense played last night surprised me, are the similarities of last nights game compared to the "greatest game ever" part 1. If you think about it they were very much alike, neither offense did much and it came down to field possession and special teams.
Similar games but will be viewed totally different.
Here's the thing about Saturday. After a day to think it over I have an observation.
Those are the kind of games a team in Auburn's situation simply CANNOT lose in the way it was lost.
Massive underdog, back against the wall, at home, fans giving their all... when you have that you CAN'T lose because you dropped a punt, because you threw a fairy interception, because you couldn't manage the timeouts correctly.
If you lost a game like that you have to lose because THEY did something miraculous at the end. Long pass, FG as time expires, long TD drive in the closing minutes.
You can't just fizzle fuck limply away at the end and fade. You either have to win or they have to pull it out of their ass as the clock hits zero.
It was a fail.
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Here's the thing about Saturday. After a day to think it over I have an observation.
Those are the kind of games a team in Auburn's situation simply CANNOT lose in the way it was lost.
Massive underdog, back against the wall, at home, fans giving their all... when you have that you CAN'T lose because you dropped a punt, because you threw a fairy interception, because you couldn't manage the timeouts correctly.
If you lost a game like that you have to lose because THEY did something miraculous at the end. Long pass, FG as time expires, long TD drive in the closing minutes.
You can't just fizzle fuck limply away at the end and fade. You either have to win or they have to pull it out of their ass as the clock hits zero.
It was a fail.
Agree with that, but at the same time I was able to enjoy watching last nights game. It sure as hell beat watching the MSU game. With what I saw in the first 3 games I was impressed that at least our defense showed up to play. It almost reminded me of some Tubby type games, except we had no run game. Also Tubbs had a way with these type of games. We did what we needed to win, forced turnovers, stopped the run. If we would have been able to block a punt in LSU territory we win by a point.
But at the end of the day you are correct we lost.
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Something besides how well our defense played last night surprised me, are the similarities of last nights game compared to the "greatest game ever" part 1. If you think about it they were very much alike, neither offense did much and it came down to field possession and special teams.
Similar games but will be viewed totally different.
Ehhhh...I'm sort of with you, but not really.
The "I Wish an Earthquake Killed Both Teams" game of last year was consistent tough defense. The offenses were boring, sure, much like last night. However, there were many more stout defensive plays in that game than ours last night. There was plenty of good action in our game; however, there were way too many buffoon mistakes by our offense and theirs to make me think it was a classic.
But you're right about how last night's game is being solely viewed as a huge let down by LSU and not giving any credit to Auburn.
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Here's the thing about Saturday. After a day to think it over I have an observation.
Those are the kind of games a team in Auburn's situation simply CANNOT lose in the way it was lost.
Massive underdog, back against the wall, at home, fans giving their all... when you have that you CAN'T lose because you dropped a punt, because you threw a fairy interception, because you couldn't manage the timeouts correctly.
If you lost a game like that you have to lose because THEY did something miraculous at the end. Long pass, FG as time expires, long TD drive in the closing minutes.
You can't just fizzle fuck limply away at the end and fade. You either have to win or they have to pull it out of their ass as the clock hits zero.
It was a fail.
Exactly.
2001 vs. Florida for example. Three touchdown+ underdog. Florida was supposed to blow us out in Jordan Hare. Our team came to play and in the end pulled out the victory. It set the tone for what Tuberville was building.
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Agree with that, but at the same time I was able to enjoy watching last nights game. It sure as hell beat watching the MSU game. With what I saw in the first 3 games I was impressed that at least our defense showed up to play. It almost reminded me of some Tubby type games, except we had no run game. Also Tubbs had a way with these type of games. We did what we needed to win, forced turnovers, stopped the run. If we would have been able to block a punt in LSU territory we win by a point.
But at the end of the day you are correct we lost.
Agreed. I think part of the joy of the loss :facepalm: was just the fact that I could stomach to watch
the damn game alone. K is right though, thats the kind of game you have to win and for the most part
Auburn would have won in years past. The part of me that disagrees with a lot of those here is that a large percentage of whats going on this year, I said this year, is more to do with what the OC play calling has been. Now, last week I was putting more of this at the feet of Chizik. This week, after watching some horrible play calling, at the feet of OC Loafer.
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Exactly.
2001 vs. Florida for example. Three touchdown+ underdog. Florida was supposed to blow us out in Jordan Hare. Our team came to play and in the end pulled out the victory. It set the tone for what Tuberville was building.
Dude, that was an AUSOME fucking game!
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Ehhhh...I'm sort of with you, but not really.
The "I Wish an Earthquake Killed Both Teams" game of last year was consistent tough defense. The offenses were boring, sure, much like last night. However, there were many more stout defensive plays in that game than ours last night. There was plenty of good action in our game; however, there were way too many buffoon mistakes by our offense and theirs to make me think it was a classic.
But you're right about how last night's game is being solely viewed as a huge let down by LSU and not giving any credit to Auburn.
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That is correct, but if you look at the stats very similar. Bama was able to move the ball last year just couldn't score, LSU did much of nothing on offense last year much like we did last night.
I'm not by any means saying it was the same quality of game, but similar.
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Agreed. I think part of the joy of the loss :facepalm: was just the fact that I could stomach to watch
the damn game alone. K is right though, thats the kind of game you have to win and for the most part
Auburn would have won in years past. The part of me that disagrees with a lot of those here is that a large percentage of whats going on this year, I said this year, is more to do with what the OC play calling has been. Now, last week I was putting more of this at the feet of Chizik. This week, after watching some horrible play calling, at the feet of OC Loafer.
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On that same point, I think we can see how much of a loss Dyer is. We play that game last night with him running up the gut, probably would have pulled that one out.
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You people, yes YOU people, can gripe about play calling, QB doesn't fit the system, new coordinators need time, and all the other bullshit you want, which is nothing more than parroting what idiots say on the TV and radio, and don't know jack shit about. There's a shitload more to it than any of that. Something at the very core is wrong. And yes, it's worse than 2008, by a damn sight.
If you're talking about me, I don't watch ESPN unless Auburn is playing and I don't listen to Sports Talk radio anymore (I stopped doing both back in 2010) and my life has been irritation free ever since. So, everything that I've posted didn't come from what I've seen or heard...it's called being realistic and looking at the big picture, knowing that the type of change on both sides of the ball takes a little time (both changes were pretty drastic and both coordinators brought their system in and are working to make the players fit it).
We wanted a change, well we got what we wanted, now we just need to have a little patience for the players and coordinators to come together. We have more work to do on the Offensive side, which should be understandable due to the fact that we basically have a freshman at QB learning the system that's foreign to him (he'll get a better grasp of the system and things will begin to slow down for him).
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We're now getting made fun of by the Bammers for claiming a moral victory. The bammers can't just enjoy that were not a good football team they want the entire program burned to the ground.
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We're now getting made fun of by the Bammers for claiming a moral victory. The bammers can't just enjoy that were not a good football team they want the entire program burned to the ground.
Fuck 'em.
A moral victory is in order, IMO.
My tl;dr thoughts have been laid out in another thread. But that game gave me hope for this season to not go down in history as one of the all-time worst.
That's a legitimate moral victory.
Find solace in the fact that they can't be happy with utter dominance so far this year, without prying at us over coming up about exactly the same as they did, after playing them last year in their home stadium, in what was billed as the greatest game of all time, during their National Championship season a year ago, except no Auburn fan was caught on tape crying like a bitch over it.
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Was the defense improved...yes.
Was the defense improved against a great LSU squad that deserves to be #2... no.
Not saying LSU isn't good. Just saying that the LSU team we played Saturday night will lose 2 games. Including a skull fucking by the inbreds. LSU had a lot of 4th and 1's and if you think they wouldn't have gotten those by just running up the middle, I have some land called the Everglades, it is beautiful and cheap. I'm not being Debbie downer, but there are more things that I saw inherently wrong with this program.
1) The fact that most of us thought we were gonna get skull fucked (is a problem to me) and those that didn't were kidding themselves, because there was no basis to say otherwise.
2) The fact that we are taking this game as a moral victory (is a problem to me)
3) The fact that we don't have a competent QB (is a problem to me)
4) The fact that we finally tackled in GAME 4 in year 4 (is a problem to me)
5) The fact that we are still missing quality players (like middle LB's) is a problem to me.
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They tackled better because for the first time this season, a team lined up and came right at them. Exactly what LSU always does. Secondly, their manhood was challenged because of what happened last year and the comments made and the media hype on those comments leading up to the game. To their credit, they were fired up had something to prove.
Some personnel changes also helped a bit in overall defense. Florence and Therieze got a lot of PT and Joshua Holsey took over at corner a lot, especially in the 2nd half. He looked damn good too.
I can only hope we see that same effort in 2 weeks. Despite early suckage, our defense showed it can hold its own and they're going to have to until the offense comes around.
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They tackled better because for the first time this season, a team lined up and came right at them. Exactly what LSU always does. Secondly, their manhood was challenged because of what happened last year and the comments made and the media hype on those comments leading up to the game. To their credit, they were fired up had something to prove.
Some personnel changes also helped a bit in overall defense. Florence and Therieze got a lot of PT and Joshua Holsey took over at corner a lot, especially in the 2nd half. He looked damn good too.
I can only hope we see that same effort in 2 weeks. Despite early suckage, our defense showed it can hold its own and they're going to have to until the offense comes around.
Agree with this. I hope that they proved to themselves that they CAN hang with an "elite" team and that BVG challenges them (and they accept) to shitstomp everyone between now and the Iron Bowl.
Do that, and I have hope...dim hope...for a win in Turdtown.
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Agree with this. I hope that they proved to themselves that they CAN hang with an "elite" team and that BVG challenges them (and they accept) to shitstomp everyone between now and the Iron Bowl.
Do that, and I have hope...dim hope...for a win in Turdtown.
Win in T-Town? You Aubs ain't never won and ain't never gonna' win in T-Town. Stupid barner.
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Agree with this. I hope that they proved to themselves that they CAN hang with an "elite" team and that BVG challenges them (and they accept) to shitstomp everyone between now and the Iron Bowl.
Do that, and I have hope...dim hope...for a win in Turdtown.
"elite" or "very elite"? I need to know the distinction...
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"elite" or "very elite"? I need to know the distinction...
November 3rd. THE GREATEST GAME EVAH PLAYED IN THE HISTORY OF FOOTBALL.
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Agree with this. I hope that they proved to themselves that they CAN hang with an "elite" team and that BVG challenges them (and they accept) to shitstomp everyone between now and the Iron Bowl.
Do that, and I have hope...dim hope...for a win in Turdtown.
I'm betting, at the end of the year, LSU isn't an elite team. LSU offense is shit. The "improvement" in our defense was as much that as anything else.
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They tackled better because for the first time this season, a team lined up and came right at them. Exactly what LSU always does. Secondly, their manhood was challenged because of what happened last year and the comments made and the media hype on those comments leading up to the game. To their credit, they were fired up had something to prove.
Some personnel changes also helped a bit in overall defense. Florence and Therieze got a lot of PT and Joshua Holsey took over at corner a lot, especially in the 2nd half. He looked damn good too.
I can only hope we see that same effort in 2 weeks. Despite early suckage, our defense showed it can hold its own and they're going to have to until the offense comes around.
Hells bells, most of them graduate in two or three years.
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I'm betting, at the end of the year, LSU isn't an elite team. LSU offense is shit. The "improvement" in our defense was as much that as anything else.
Agree, but our boys did play with more fire. I give credit to them as well.
Jury still out on LSU IMO, I was not impressed with them at all. I think UF beats them and bammer kills them. MSU may also give them a run for they money.
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They tackled better because for the first time this season, a team lined up and came right at them.
Agree, LSU's not real interested about getting players "out in space" and their running backs don't have a lot of wiggle to them.
We'll see how much the tackling has improved (I can't believe I'm saying this) when we play Ole Miss. We'll see how much the pass coverage has improved against Arkansas. Although my hope for Arky is that Lemonier and Ford send Wilson home on a shingle, if we could get to LSU with the front four and Arky couldn't keep the QB upright against ULM I think we have a shot.
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Agree, but our boys did play with more fire. I give credit to them as well.
Jury still out on LSU IMO, I was not impressed with them at all. I think UF beats them and bammer kills them. MSU may also give them a run for they money.
I'm no rocket surjun when it comes to stragety, but it seems to me that everyting with LSU's offense is predicated around being able to consistently pound the ball. Their O looked the same as it always has under Miles. Big, athletic backs hitting you from all angles and then pop teh play action. I think Mettenturder is not very mobile but can be highly effective if the running game is clicking. Guess that's true for just about any QB....just about. But AU did a much better job against the run and got enough pressure to make Mettenstache move and have to throw on the run. Obviously not his forte.