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Title: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 01:30:03 PM
This Auburn team sux.  Beyond imaginable suckage.  Worse than any "Auburn will return to their normal 6-6" bullshit. 

Some here were all  :wartim:

Other's were like me, and wanted to see the product to make a decision.

Still others' thought it might be a rough season but...

All were wrong. 

We are fucking horrible.  The ONLY phase of the game that is any good is the special teams, and namely the FG unit for us.

Frazier is horrible.  I say that coming in being willing to give him some time.  The whole deal with changing coordinators was to play defense, field position, and run the ball and the clock.  Great idea, except we can't throw the ball, so we can't run the ball either, nor can we play any defense.  The middle of the defense sucks.  Secondary sucks. 

The amount of "improvement" that it will take to get this team to a bowl would be unprecedented. 

Any motherfucking fool that thinks "more creative playcalling" is the answer needs to be shot.  This team can't consistently execute the most base plays.   

This team reminds me of the Franklin debacle without a defense. 


:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 08, 2012, 01:33:05 PM
I call bs on this one. We need better qb play. The rest of the O has looked sound to me. We need better LB and DB play on D. The DE's have looked very good and DT's suspect. Overall, it does not suck. I think we may see CM in the second half and if the Oline can give him some time, we can loosen up the MSU D.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 08, 2012, 01:33:55 PM
I agree.  We look unprepared.  There's only one person responsible for that.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 01:36:34 PM
I call bs on this one. We need better qb play. The rest of the O has looked sound to me. We need better LB and DB play on D. The DE's have looked very good and DT's suspect. Overall, it does not suck. I think we may see CM in the second half and if the Oline can give him some time, we can loosen up the MSU D.

You're blind.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 08, 2012, 01:39:25 PM
I call bs on this one. We need better qb play. The rest of the O has looked sound to me. We need better LB and DB play on D. The DE's have looked very good and DT's suspect. Overall, it does not suck. I think we may see CM in the second half and if the Oline can give him some time, we can loosen up the MSU D.

It can't hurt.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 08, 2012, 01:40:47 PM
This Auburn team sux.  Beyond imaginable suckage.  Worse than any "Auburn will return to their normal 6-6" bullshit. 

Some here were all  :wartim:

Other's were like me, and wanted to see the product to make a decision.

Still others' thought it might be a rough season but...

All were wrong. 

We are fucking horrible.  The ONLY phase of the game that is any good is the special teams, and namely the FG unit for us.

Frazier is horrible.  I say that coming in being willing to give him some time.  The whole deal with changing coordinators was to play defense, field position, and run the ball and the clock.  Great idea, except we can't throw the ball, so we can't run the ball either, nor can we play any defense.  The middle of the defense sucks.  Secondary sucks. 

The amount of "improvement" that it will take to get this team to a bowl would be unprecedented. 

Any motherfucking fool that thinks "more creative playcalling" is the answer needs to be shot.  This team can't consistently execute the most base plays.   

This team reminds me of the Franklin debacle without a defense. 


:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

And how can it be that way only two years removed from a MNC?
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 08, 2012, 01:41:05 PM
You're blind.

Or, possibly know more than people saying that this team sux. One or the other is probably true.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 01:44:51 PM
Or, possibly know more than people saying that this team sux. One or the other is probably true.


Please, enlighten us.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 01:46:43 PM
And how can it be that way only two years removed from a MNC?

I expected taking a step backwards losing Cam, Fairley, and 24 Seniors off the 2010 team.  I didn't expect taking 2 steps back off the young, but talented 2011 team. 
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 08, 2012, 01:48:30 PM
I expected taking a step backwards losing Cam, Fairley, and 24 Seniors off the 2010 team.  I didn't expect taking 2 steps back off the young, but talented 2011 team.
. Exactly.  We look worse than last year.  The offense is especially bad which is saying a lot considering how bad the defense is.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 08, 2012, 01:52:23 PM
Please, enlighten us.
Already did. You're free to say what you will but it doesn't help the team saying they suck. Esp when they don't.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 01:53:37 PM
Already did. You're free to say what you will but it doesn't help the team saying they suck. Esp when they don't.

No, you didn't, and it doesn't hurt them either.  They sux whether I say it or not.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 08, 2012, 02:13:06 PM
Holland could not tackle nor cover my dead mother.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 08, 2012, 02:20:27 PM
Holland could not tackle nor cover my dead mother.
Hard for me to believe that he is the best MLB we have. Really hard.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 02:21:27 PM
Hard for me to believe that he is the best MLB we have. Really hard.

You're not as dumb as I originally thunk.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: Jumbo on September 08, 2012, 02:41:33 PM
Hard for me to believe that he is the best MLB we have. Really hard.
He has nice hair.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: GH2001 on September 08, 2012, 04:44:35 PM
This Auburn team sux.  Beyond imaginable suckage.  Worse than any "Auburn will return to their normal 6-6" bullshit. 

Some here were all  :wartim:

Other's were like me, and wanted to see the product to make a decision.

Still others' thought it might be a rough season but...

All were wrong. 

We are fucking horrible.  The ONLY phase of the game that is any good is the special teams, and namely the FG unit for us.

Frazier is horrible.  I say that coming in being willing to give him some time.  The whole deal with changing coordinators was to play defense, field position, and run the ball and the clock.  Great idea, except we can't throw the ball, so we can't run the ball either, nor can we play any defense.  The middle of the defense sucks.  Secondary sucks. 

The amount of "improvement" that it will take to get this team to a bowl would be unprecedented. 

Any motherfucking fool that thinks "more creative playcalling" is the answer needs to be shot.  This team can't consistently execute the most base plays.   

This team reminds me of the Franklin debacle without a defense. 


:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Not creative play calling but maybe adjusted to our strengths since fraziers arm obviously isn't one of them. Maybe go to a heavier running game. Short screens and dumps. Something. Nothing over 15 yards downfield for KF. I'm just asking for some adjustments. No one could have imagined KF would be this bad including loeffler himself.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: Kaos on September 08, 2012, 04:46:32 PM
Not creative play calling but maybe adjusted to our strengths since fraziers arm obviously isn't one of them. Maybe go to a heavier running game. Short screens and dumps. Something. Nothing over 15 yards downfield for KF. I'm just asking for some adjustments. No one could have imagined KF would be this bad including loeffler himself.

Not only did I imagine it, I said so.  Could see it on his face and in his eyes last year.  Not. SEC. Caliber.  Never will be. 

We'd be better served to go to the ND box or wildcat or some shit and just snap directly to RBs. 
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 08, 2012, 04:48:29 PM
Not only did I imagine it, I said so.  Could see it on his face and in his eyes last year.  Not. SEC. Caliber.  Never will be. 

We'd be better served to go to the ND box or wildcat or some shit and just snap directly to RBs.

Maybe he can become a WR-and be an inspration to the team.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: Kaos on September 08, 2012, 04:49:31 PM
Maybe he can become a WR-and be an inspration to the team.

Does Daniel Cobb have any eligibility left?
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: GH2001 on September 08, 2012, 04:50:22 PM
Not only did I imagine it, I said so.  Could see it on his face and in his eyes last year.  Not. SEC. Caliber.  Never will be. 

We'd be better served to go to the ND box or wildcat or some shit and just snap directly to RBs.

Hell, something. What were doing ain't working. At all.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 08, 2012, 05:31:51 PM
Not creative play calling but maybe adjusted to our strengths since fraziers arm obviously isn't one of them. Maybe go to a heavier running game. Short screens and dumps. Something. Nothing over 15 yards downfield for KF. I'm just asking for some adjustments. No one could have imagined KF would be this bad including loeffler himself.
At the stage we are in now, we are already only building for next year. It would be great if we had JJ already here or someone to get some reps but apparently, we have no other option at QB.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: JR4AU on September 08, 2012, 05:41:42 PM
Not only did I imagine it, I said so.  Could see it on his face and in his eyes last year.  Not. SEC. Caliber.  Never will be. 

We'd be better served to go to the ND box or wildcat or some shit and just snap directly to RBs.

Probably the best idea yet.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: The Prowler on September 08, 2012, 05:55:12 PM
At the stage we are in now, we are already only building for next year. It would be great if we had JJ already here or someone to get some reps but apparently, we have no other option at QB.
Remember when the coaches were stating that the QB race was neck and neck (Frazier vs a bad shoulder Moseley) and everyone thought that it's just ”coaching speak”, because there's no way that Moseley is giving Frazier a run at the starting QB position with a bum shoulder...they're just saying that to so Frazier will continue to get better?  The coaches weren't giving ”coach speak”, they were sadly telling the truth.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 08, 2012, 11:16:52 PM
Remember when the coaches were stating that the QB race was neck and neck (Frazier vs a bad shoulder Moseley) and everyone thought that it's just ”coaching speak”, because there's no way that Moseley is giving Frazier a run at the starting QB position with a bum shoulder...they're just saying that to so Frazier will continue to get better?  The coaches weren't giving ”coach speak”, they were sadly telling the truth.
You are correct sir. Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: Godfather on September 08, 2012, 11:57:00 PM
At the stage we are in now, we are already only building for next year. It would be great if we had JJ already here or someone to get some reps but apparently, we have no other option at QB.
See I thought that way too before this game.  I also thought we would win this game.

Here is the problem when your foundation sucks what is their to build on?

Seriously we already have seen Moseley he isn't better, not to mention he couldn't beat out Frazier. So who do we have Wallace? Pfft doubtful. What I saw today can't be learned. Kaos was right Kiehl is bad, but so is Moseley.  So what does that leave us with?... some freshman hope for next year? Riiiiight.

We are far removed from being a good football team right now.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 09, 2012, 12:01:49 AM
See I thought that way to before this game.  I also thought we would win this game.

Here is the problem when your foundation sucks what is their to build on?

Seriously we already have seen Moseley he isn't better, not to mention he couldn't beat out Frazier. So who do we have Wallace? Pfft doubtful. What I saw today can't be learned. Kaos was right Kiehl is bad, but so is Moseley.  So what does that leave us with?... some freshman hope for next year? Riiiiight.

It's not players I'm worried about.

It's that we have multiple four star recruits playing defensive tackle, and none of them can stuff the run.

It's that we have multiple four star middle linebackers, and the only one getting playing time is the undersized white boy with a ridiculous hair style.

It's that we have multiple four star players in the secondary with many of them sitting on the bench and the ones on the field are leaving 3-4 yard cushions and then piss-poor tackling ball carriers.

It's that we have a supposedly "deep" running back stable, and we aren't giving them the chance to be successful.

It's that we have an NFL, sure-thing receiver and an NFL tight end, and with those two guys' ability to grab the attention of opposing defenses, we can't find another receiver to throw to.

It's that we have an offense that has zero concept of the word rhythm. 

It's that after four years, no, five years, we've yet to find a quarterback to build on besides the comic book hero that fell from the Blinn heavens in 2010. 
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: Come Honor Face on September 09, 2012, 12:10:29 AM
Remember when the coaches were stating that the QB race was neck and neck (Frazier vs a bad shoulder Moseley) and everyone thought that it's just ”coaching speak”, because there's no way that Moseley is giving Frazier a run at the starting QB position with a bum shoulder...they're just saying that to so Frazier will continue to get better?  The coaches weren't giving ”coach speak”, they were sadly telling the truth.

Mosely has won more games than Frazier.  I could fucking care less if we even used a QB anymore
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: dallaswareagle on September 09, 2012, 12:13:07 AM
It's not players I'm worried about.

It's that we have multiple four star recruits playing defensive tackle, and none of them can stuff the run.

It's that we have multiple four star middle linebackers, and the only one getting playing time is the undersized white boy with a ridiculous hair style.

It's that we have multiple four star players in the secondary with many of them sitting on the bench and the ones on the field are leaving 3-4 yard cushions and then piss-poor tackling ball carriers.

It's that we have a supposedly "deep" running back stable, and we aren't giving them the chance to be successful.

It's that we have an NFL, sure-thing receiver and an NFL tight end, and with those two guys' ability to grab the attention of opposing defenses, we can't find another receiver to throw to.

It's that we have an offense that has zero concept of the word rhythm. 

It's that after four years, no, five years, we've yet to find a quarterback to build on besides the comic book hero that fell from the Blinn heavens in 2010.


Looks like we have 1 star talent Evaluation or 1 star coaching.

And I am tired of the BS coach speak. I think we are all grown up we could take the truth and god knows what that is.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: chityeah on September 09, 2012, 01:24:21 AM
It's not players I'm worried about.

It's that we have multiple four star recruits playing defensive tackle, and none of them can stuff the run.

It's that we have multiple four star middle linebackers, and the only one getting playing time is the undersized white boy with a ridiculous hair style.

It's that we have multiple four star players in the secondary with many of them sitting on the bench and the ones on the field are leaving 3-4 yard cushions and then piss-poor tackling ball carriers.

It's that we have a supposedly "deep" running back stable, and we aren't giving them the chance to be successful.

It's that we have an NFL, sure-thing receiver and an NFL tight end, and with those two guys' ability to grab the attention of opposing defenses, we can't find another receiver to throw to.

It's that we have an offense that has zero concept of the word rhythm. 

It's that after four years, no, five years, we've yet to find a quarterback to build on besides the comic book hero that fell from the Blinn heavens in 2010.
Can't believe I'm saying this.........Is that you Coach Barfield?
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: Townhallsavoy on September 09, 2012, 08:16:03 AM

Looks like we have 1 star talent Evaluation or 1 star coaching.


As someone mentioned in another thread, you may miss on a few guys.  Recruiting services may have gotten it wrong with a couple.

But we're seeing the majority of our highly rated recruits not live up to their potential. 
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: WiregrassTiger on September 09, 2012, 08:49:25 AM
As someone mentioned in another thread, you may miss on a few guys.  Recruiting services may have gotten it wrong with a couple.

But we're seeing the majority of our highly rated recruits not live up to their potential.
This is true. It's either on field or off that they are having issues but it seems mostly off.
Title: Re: Folks, I got bad news...
Post by: Yoda on September 09, 2012, 09:04:17 AM
It's not players I'm worried about.

It's that we have multiple four star recruits playing defensive tackle, and none of them can stuff the run.

It's that we have multiple four star middle linebackers, and the only one getting playing time is the undersized white boy with a ridiculous hair style.

It's that we have multiple four star players in the secondary with many of them sitting on the bench and the ones on the field are leaving 3-4 yard cushions and then piss-poor tackling ball carriers.

It's that we have a supposedly "deep" running back stable, and we aren't giving them the chance to be successful.

It's that we have an NFL, sure-thing receiver and an NFL tight end, and with those two guys' ability to grab the attention of opposing defenses, we can't find another receiver to throw to.

It's that we have an offense that has zero concept of the word rhythm. 

It's that after four years, no, five years, we've yet to find a quarterback to build on besides the comic book hero that fell from the Blinn heavens in 2010.

This all of it.  Last year I saw faults with the O line, and our QB's were so so. No big deal fix the line run the ball find a QB'S that can complete a few passes when needed and get a new D coordinator to fix the defense.

All of that was done, but nothing has changed.  Unless we find a QB for next year, and CBV can somehow get these young highly recruited guys to start playing ball, we are screwed for next year as well.