Auburn should rescind offer to troubled lineman Dee LinerFuck this guy six ways to Sunday.
Published: Thursday, August 23, 2012, 7:24 AM Updated: Thursday, August 23, 2012, 7:41 AM
Jeff Sentell -- The Birmingham News
Dee Liner is the best lineman in Alabama this year. He's committed to Auburn and sought after by every school in the country.
He's almost 6-foot-3 and 277 pounds. The Muscle Shoals senior is the right kind of nasty and he's blessed with a rare explosion off the ball.
But Liner is currently not practicing football. He walked off the practice field last Thursday and had yet to rejoin his team as of Wednesday's practice.
As far as the world knows, he still has a scholarship offer to play at Auburn.
Muscle Shoals coach Scott Basden told the Florence Times Daily last week that Liner was suspended indefinitely but would not go into detail beyond a comment: "We are more concerned with helping Dee Liner as a person than (as) a football player."
Liner is simply a 5-star student right now. He's akin to a tennis, soccer or musical prodigy who found a scholarship path outside of a transcript. There's nothing implied to his offer that says he must represent a high school team in any way.
That was just always implicit with no alternate proving ground to show one's worth than on Friday night.
In all honesty, Liner doesn't need his high school coach or Trojan teammates. He's gotten his. Maybe he's come to the realization he doesn't need to play at all. He really doesn't if his future college choice will still welcome him to campus with open arms.
That's the first of many reasons why Auburn should rescind its scholarship offer and wish him the best.
Huh? Was that written by someone who snaked a few fingers around the buckles of a strait jacket?
If Liner is released from a nonbinding spoken pledge to attend Auburn, of course another BCS program would take his commitment in the time it takes to say "second chance."
Liner is that talented a chip in the business of college football. Defensive linemen of his stock are what separate the SEC from the rest of the Top 25. There just comes a point where it has to be about more than ability.
Liner has not had a summer to be proud of. The Florence Times Daily reported he was arrested for two misdemeanors. The first was for verbally confronting a police officer during a traffic stop on July 1. The second was for trespassing in a Sheffield city pool during the early morning on July 10.
The popular notion was that Liner got arrested in the community he moved away from to go to school and play for Muscle Shoals. There are some gray areas to those stories.
Count me among a long line of boys guilty of sneaking into a closed swimming pool growing up.
That said, if you combine those run-ins with the practice walkout it is not so easily rationalized as boys being boys.
His Twitter timeline after last week's events shows he has some growing up to do.
What is most troubling about the story is the lack of commitment to his former team.
Do you want a kid who decided it was not important to represent his community on campus? Muscle Shoals was even rated No. 2 in 5A in the Alabama Sports Writers Association's preseason poll.
If Liner loves football, how can he just walk out on his team? What happened to being a part of something greater than one's self? That line belongs on a Hallmark card when it comes to the talent race, right? It is still fundamental to the team chemistry that breeds championship football.
Every day that goes by that Liner does not practice for his high school and still has a scholarship offer at Auburn sends a pointed message. It strips authority from Basden and every peer who will coach an elite prospect.
If Liner could walk away from his team and go straight to the SEC upon graduation, the next Dee Liner could legitimately ask why play high school ball once I'm committed to my dream school?
The notion to drop Liner came from a respected area coach. It made immediate sense. But this coach was worried about implications on his program if he spoke out negatively against Auburn.
If Gene Chizik and his staff released this trophy back into the ocean, a rival could snatch him up and put him on the field against Auburn. Liner could take over that game.
Is taking that short-term loss worth a long-term gain with every high school coach in America who sees Auburn showing it cares more about the roots of the game than a Redwood sprouting up out of the Quad Cities?
Liner is a rare talent, but there will be other elite defensive linemen to recruit.
That's the point. The high school-to-college football path needs to be redefined before everything starts to look like AAU basketball or travel softball.
As it stands, football was probably the lone remaining sport where no club or travel team developed the necessary skills to attract scholarship attention.
Is that changing? This could be the start or the end of it.
Until that day comes, all those who favor college programs waiting until the start of a prospect's senior year to even accept an oral commitment have a little more validation for that case.
Jeff SentelAuburnshould shut the fuck uprescind offer to troubled lineman Dee Liner
Published: Thursday, August 23, 2012, 7:24 AM Updated: Thursday, August 23, 2012, 7:41 AM
TigersXJeff Sentell -- The Birmingham News
As long as it's not a discipline issue, and just an issue between him and his coach(es) then it's not Auburn's problem or business. Who knows? Maybe his coach is a douchnozzle.
Just the fact that this douchenozzle is systematically trying to manipulate recruiting and stirring the pot at the same time, is what pisses me off. This is NONE of Sentell's business.
I just e-raped him.
If you'd care to join in...
jsentell@bhamnews.com
I know this is a stupid question, but what the hell is the purpose of this hit piece? When this asshat readily admits that every single D1 school in the country would snap him up in an instant, why even write it? Why should AU be singled out unless this twatwaffle (Love that one) has an ulterior motive?
His motive is he is a bammer and that team that would come along to scoop up Mr. DL would be........
........bama.
Then we'd see a piece that fawned over how Lord Saybinz had a stern talk with this kid and turned his life around.It's so obvious and predictable to everyone with a brain in their skull, and yet, they continue to pull this shit. Finebaum calls any dissenters "lunatic fringe", and many in our fan base just take the pill and shut up.
His motive is he is a bammer and that team that would come along to scoop up Mr. DL would be........
........bama.
Then we'd see a piece that fawned over how Lord Saybinz had a stern talk with this kid and turned his life around.
The fuck is actually a Georgia grad, but his employment at al.com hinges on his willingness/ability to slam Auburn while pimping bama.
The fuck is actually a Georgia grad, but his employment at al.com hinges on his willingness/ability to slam Auburn while pimping bama.
I think we should drop Dee, a little trouble in the past never works out for us.
Oh come on. It's not like he stole a laptop or anything.#winning
The issue is do you think it is good for an elite recruit with an offer from his dream school to walk away from his high school team and not return in the span of a week? Do high school kids with verbals still need to play football at all? If he can't play for his town on a team that is a strong contender for the state championship, does that say something about how much he loves to play football? Is it a red flag if a big recruit does not value playing for his high school coach or team? How does he improve as a player and a person by not playing his senior year?
The answers to those questions mean something. Your answers to those questions mean something. Any individual's answers to those questions mean something. I think a stance like this hurts the game. Should it be a school's job to remedy this situation? Should a newspaper columnist decide to step in and fix it? Do they have all the answers?
Sentell is misunderstood! It's not about Auburn at all. It's a much bigger question that worries him. He's concerned for the good of the game.
Shall i retort? Yes. I shall.
The answer is nobody knows what prompted his decision to leave the team. If a high school kid has a commitbable offer and chooses not to play high school ball to prepare himself for the next step how is that any different from a kid who has an opportunity to enroll at a prestigious academic program and leaves his school early to do so?
It might not be the decision I would make or the decision I’d advise my child to make, but I’m not in that situation. What’s more important to Dee Liner’s life, playing for his high school or graduating high school and having the opportunity to continue his education at a top-rated university on full scholarship? Maybe he watched Friday Night Lights and identified with Boobie Miles.
If you’d had the opportunity to take a three-year apprecticeship at al.com and then have a likely multi-million dollar job waiting for you at ESPN or SI once you finished and you had to skip being editor of the Podunk High campus newspaper, would you have hesitated?
What’s the difference here between players who leave college early to take a shot at the NFL? Or those who rush to graduate high school early so they can enroll in January?
You have no more idea than I do. And it’s DEFINITELY not your job to get in the middle of his recruiting options. This is nothing but a thinly veiled assault on Auburn recruiting.
You want to talk about what’s most disconcerting in the recruiting process? Talk to Darius Philon who got bamboozled by Saban and raped on signing day. He could have signed with Auburn as he originally agreed, but he was scammed by that stand up guy in Tuscaloosa. THERE’S your problem with recruiting. It’s not with a high school kid who is under a tremendous amount of local pressure (and yes, I do know this to be true) and for reasons you don’t know has opted to extricate himself from a situation. I’m more worried about a college coach who treats players like cattle than I am a kid who has difficulty dealing with pressure.
You might not like the decision, you might fret over the precedent that could be set if high profile high school players start ditching their senior seasons, but you had zero right to call for colleges to refuse to sign this kid just because he offends your sensibilities.
Sentell is misunderstood! It's not about Auburn at all. It's a much bigger question that worries him. He's concerned for the good of the game.
Shall i retort? Yes. I shall.
The answer is nobody knows what prompted his decision to leave the team. If a high school kid has a commitbable offer and chooses not to play high school ball to prepare himself for the next step how is that any different from a kid who has an opportunity to enroll at a prestigious academic program and leaves his school early to do so?
It might not be the decision I would make or the decision I’d advise my child to make, but I’m not in that situation. What’s more important to Dee Liner’s life, playing for his high school or graduating high school and having the opportunity to continue his education at a top-rated university on full scholarship? Maybe he watched Friday Night Lights and identified with Boobie Miles.
If you’d had the opportunity to take a three-year apprecticeship at al.com and then have a likely multi-million dollar job waiting for you at ESPN or SI once you finished and you had to skip being editor of the Podunk High campus newspaper, would you have hesitated?
What’s the difference here between players who leave college early to take a shot at the NFL? Or those who rush to graduate high school early so they can enroll in January?
You have no more idea than I do. And it’s DEFINITELY not your job to get in the middle of his recruiting options. This is nothing but a thinly veiled assault on Auburn recruiting.
You want to talk about what’s most disconcerting in the recruiting process? Talk to Darius Philon who got bamboozled by Saban and raped on signing day. He could have signed with Auburn as he originally agreed, but he was scammed by that stand up guy in Tuscaloosa. THERE’S your problem with recruiting. It’s not with a high school kid who is under a tremendous amount of local pressure (and yes, I do know this to be true) and for reasons you don’t know has opted to extricate himself from a situation. I’m more worried about a college coach who treats players like cattle than I am a kid who has difficulty dealing with pressure.
You might not like the decision, you might fret over the precedent that could be set if high profile high school players start ditching their senior seasons, but you had zero right to call for colleges to refuse to sign this kid just because he offends your sensibilities.
Sentell is misunderstood! It's not about Auburn at all. It's a much bigger question that worries him. He's concerned for the good of the game.Very well played. Although I don't cherish the thought of hs football becoming like AAU basketball or travel baseball--where a kid can take his ball and go home when he gets p.o.'d cuz the coach didn't play him--I think that it boils down to the college's decision. If they start taking a lot of prima-donna types, it's their own risk. The circumstances surrounding DL's decision are between he and CGC and the Bammerham news ain't in the loop.
Shall i retort? Yes. I shall.
The answer is nobody knows what prompted his decision to leave the team. If a high school kid has a commitbable offer and chooses not to play high school ball to prepare himself for the next step how is that any different from a kid who has an opportunity to enroll at a prestigious academic program and leaves his school early to do so?
It might not be the decision I would make or the decision I’d advise my child to make, but I’m not in that situation. What’s more important to Dee Liner’s life, playing for his high school or graduating high school and having the opportunity to continue his education at a top-rated university on full scholarship? Maybe he watched Friday Night Lights and identified with Boobie Miles.
If you’d had the opportunity to take a three-year apprecticeship at al.com and then have a likely multi-million dollar job waiting for you at ESPN or SI once you finished and you had to skip being editor of the Podunk High campus newspaper, would you have hesitated?
What’s the difference here between players who leave college early to take a shot at the NFL? Or those who rush to graduate high school early so they can enroll in January?
You have no more idea than I do. And it’s DEFINITELY not your job to get in the middle of his recruiting options. This is nothing but a thinly veiled assault on Auburn recruiting.
You want to talk about what’s most disconcerting in the recruiting process? Talk to Darius Philon who got bamboozled by Saban and raped on signing day. He could have signed with Auburn as he originally agreed, but he was scammed by that stand up guy in Tuscaloosa. THERE’S your problem with recruiting. It’s not with a high school kid who is under a tremendous amount of local pressure (and yes, I do know this to be true) and for reasons you don’t know has opted to extricate himself from a situation. I’m more worried about a college coach who treats players like cattle than I am a kid who has difficulty dealing with pressure.
You might not like the decision, you might fret over the precedent that could be set if high profile high school players start ditching their senior seasons, but you had zero right to call for colleges to refuse to sign this kid just because he offends your sensibilities.
Very well played. Although I don't cherish the thought of hs football becoming like AAU basketball or travel baseball--where a kid can take his ball and go home when he gets p.o.'d cuz the coach didn't play him--I think that it boils down to the college's decision. If they start taking a lot of prima-donna types, it's their own risk. The circumstances surrounding DL's decision are between he and CGC and the Bammerham news ain't in the loop.
Very well played. Although I don't cherish the thought of hs football becoming like AAU basketball or travel baseball--where a kid can take his ball and go home when he gets p.o.'d cuz the coach didn't play him--I think that it boils down to the college's decision. If they start taking a lot of prima-donna types, it's their own risk. The circumstances surrounding DL's decision are between he and CGC and the Bammerham news ain't in the loop.
Leave Madonna out of thisWas he talking about before Material Girl?
Leave Madonna out of thisI call her syrup bucket. Been there, done that. Got the herpes to prove it.
Sentell is misunderstood! It's not about Auburn at all. It's a much bigger question that worries him. He's concerned for the good of the game.
Shall i retort? Yes. I shall.
The answer is nobody knows what prompted his decision to leave the team. If a high school kid has a commitbable offer and chooses not to play high school ball to prepare himself for the next step how is that any different from a kid who has an opportunity to enroll at a prestigious academic program and leaves his school early to do so?
It might not be the decision I would make or the decision I’d advise my child to make, but I’m not in that situation. What’s more important to Dee Liner’s life, playing for his high school or graduating high school and having the opportunity to continue his education at a top-rated university on full scholarship? Maybe he watched Friday Night Lights and identified with Boobie Miles.
If you’d had the opportunity to take a three-year apprecticeship at al.com and then have a likely multi-million dollar job waiting for you at ESPN or SI once you finished and you had to skip being editor of the Podunk High campus newspaper, would you have hesitated?
What’s the difference here between players who leave college early to take a shot at the NFL? Or those who rush to graduate high school early so they can enroll in January?
You have no more idea than I do. And it’s DEFINITELY not your job to get in the middle of his recruiting options. This is nothing but a thinly veiled assault on Auburn recruiting.
You want to talk about what’s most disconcerting in the recruiting process? Talk to Darius Philon who got bamboozled by Saban and raped on signing day. He could have signed with Auburn as he originally agreed, but he was scammed by that stand up guy in Tuscaloosa. THERE’S your problem with recruiting. It’s not with a high school kid who is under a tremendous amount of local pressure (and yes, I do know this to be true) and for reasons you don’t know has opted to extricate himself from a situation. I’m more worried about a college coach who treats players like cattle than I am a kid who has difficulty dealing with pressure.
You might not like the decision, you might fret over the precedent that could be set if high profile high school players start ditching their senior seasons, but you had zero right to call for colleges to refuse to sign this kid just because he offends your sensibilities.
I'm sorry were you saying something?
Not gonna lie, my attention kind of drifted off after this.
I'm sorry were you saying something?
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Good goobledy goo, Fred
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Does your wife know you're posting pics of her?
Does your wife know you're posting pics of her?Am I the only one that thinks she looks like she's attempting to take a dump in her bathing britches?
Am I the only one that thinks she looks like she's attempting to take a dump in her bathing britches?
Does your wife know you're posting pics of her?
What was the kid's name that signed last year with Lord Saybinz a year removed from being kicked out of school?
When LaMichael Fanning did the exact same thing last year (quit his HS team), I don't remember the barrage of articles about what a thug he was.
It's ok to come up with this shit and connect the dots on this shit if the kid's committed to Auburn though, because of the "disturbing pattern".
Can we say the fallacy of the self-fulfilling prophecy?
O'Quote function RULES!