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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Townhallsavoy on July 06, 2012, 01:07:16 AM
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It's time for football talk. The season is getting close.
Here are my top ten worst SEC football players you'll never forget. My memory only goes back so far. Feel free to add your own.
10. Mario Fannin
He came to Auburn as a highly touted recruit. A big back with world class speed. Four stars. All the hype an incoming freshman could want. And every year he was at Auburn, he was known for two things: being the greatest running back of all time at practice and fumbling during games. Who else could run for 200+ yards in team scrimmages and then cough up the ball when it counted? Mario Fannin. That's who.
9. Fred Talley
Now, Fred Talley doesn't make this list because he's a top ten worst player. Not by any means. But tell me, Auburn fan, will you ever forget the day? I don't even need to explain further. If you root for Auburn, you know why Talley is here.
8. Brodie Croyle
He was supposed to be what Tyler Watts was hyped to be. He was supposed to be a mixture of Joe Nameth, Joe Montana, Brett Favre, and Dan Marino. He was supposed to be almighty savior of Mike Shula. Instead, Croyle simply pulled the chair out from Shula's career. Literally. Croyle was never known as the hotshot quarterback. He was an undisciplined goofball. A victim of 11 sacks in one game. An injury prone, fratastic rich kid who attended private school. And he somehow managed to be an NFL backup for several years. You'll never forget him.
7. Chris Capps
What's a list of worsts that includes Brodie Croyle and fails to mention Chris Capps? Every Bama fan just shivered. In Tuscaloosa, he is the He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named. From holding calls to sacks to false starts to just plain sucking, Chris Capps had it...well...he had nothing. He was one of the worst left tackles to ever start in the SEC, and he started multiple years.
6. Jordan Jefferson
Where were you when one of the best teams in SEC history lost because Jordan Jefferson, a player that wasn't even on the team the entire season, threw the season away? Jefferson's auspicious start occurred in a bowl game where he made his first start of his career. He launched the ball to wide open receivers, took off down the field on exciting runs, and gave favorable hope to LSU fans that he would continue to lead the machine that Saban once had built and Myles now controlled. And Jefferson did lead them. To fumbled snaps. To clock management goofs. To off the field trouble. To suspensions. To a blown national title. Unforgettable and really, unconscionable how a team that recruits so well was never able to find someone - anyone! - that could replace this guy.
5. Tray Blackmon
I remember the articles of his recruitment - the next Ray Lewis. I remember the articles during practice - the next Ray Lewis. I remember the articles during the season - the next Ray Lewis. And I remember when he finally got thrown into a game - the next Ray Lewis. Blackmon was so talented, such a physical freak, that even though he was completely lost against Florida in 2007, he still dominated the game defensively. I watched him run the wrong direction, spin around in a circle, and still make it to the other side of the field to deliver a big hit. The guy was on track to be a legend. And unfortunately, one of the most gifted players to ever come to Auburn did leave a legend. The legend that left football early to play Canadian football in order to support his baby mamas.
4. Brent Schaefer
"He's like Houdini out there!" said Mike Tirico, game one of the 2004 season. Eric Ainge and Brent Schaefer were both top quarterback recruits. So talented were these two that Fulmer recruited both of them and then started both of them practically at the same time of the same games. Who would win out? Schaefer was reminiscent of Michael Vick. Flashy moves. Lightning speed. A cannon for an arm. But he only ran his way out of town and only threw his arm out trying to win for Ed Orgeron in Oxford. Schaefer was a one man team, and he was good enough to win as a one man team. But he didn't. He was one of the more bonehead players I've watched as a football fan, and how someone that talented was able to do so little, I'm glad I'll never know.
3. Michael Johnson
Many Auburn fans just clicked the X at the top of the screen. You know Fred Talley, and you know Michael Johnson. Yes, the same Michael Johnson that did absolutely nothing for Georgia unless it was the Auburn game. And usually, Johnson was making clutch catches at pivotal moments of the game. In fact, he single handedly won the 2002 game with an electric catch in the endzone. What else did Michael Johnson do in his career? Nothing. And most have probably forgotten him. But not Auburn fans.
2. Stephen Garcia
When Garcia was on, he was on. He could launch perfectly thrown spirals right into the hands of his receivers against talented defenses like 2010 Alabama's. But, like in that same game against Alabama, he could also come out on the first play of the half and literally throw the ball the wrong direction out the back of the endzone. Garcia was tall, big, reckless, stupid, and exciting. Never a dull moment. In fact, he should be a legend. Parties with coeds in a hotel room the night before a bowl game? Liquor binges that resulted in wild acts of debauchery? Somehow managing to Van Wilder the NCAA system and play for South Carolina for a decade? You can't forget Garcia.
1. Xavier Carter
Before your incredulity gets the best of you, forget his name. It's not his name that matters. This list is a combination list of "worst players" and "unforgettable players." Carter fulfills the "worst" part. What do you know Xavier Carter for? Well, he's the guy that kneeled the ball on the 1 yard line after receiving the kickoff. That's the worst unforgettable play I could ever imagine.
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That certainly was a list.
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Terry Bowden's entire 1998 team.
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Prowler digs the Pera
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Terry Bowden's entire 1998 team.
Rusty Williams = Best SEC RB evah!
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Rusty Williams = Best SEC RB evah!
Demontray Carter motherfucker! 3 yds and a cloud of dust! BOOOM
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Terry Bowden's entire 1998 team.
So glad I wasn't an Auburn fan then.
I've had a good ride so far. The only season that's really sucked has been 2008.
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Cam Newton!!! Damn thug and his fake smile about ruined Auburn.
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So glad I wasn't an Auburn fan then.
I've had a good ride so far. The only season that's really sucked has been 2008.
Fuck me dude...you are out. You don't get to share no more.
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Fuck me dude...you are out. You don't get to share no more.
Indeed. The only people that had it worse than my tenure (1995-1999) were those suffering through the Barfield years.
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Demontray Carter motherfucker! 3 yds and a cloud of dust! BOOOM
The Lizard scoffs at this.
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Indeed. The only people that had it worse than my tenure (1995-1999) were those suffering through the Barfield years.
agreed.
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Lectron Williams has to be somewhere in the top 10 though.
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I suffered through the end of the Barfield era and graduated just after Dye took them to the Sugar Bowl. Many drunk naps were taken across the empty endzone bleachers during Barfield games.
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Lectron Williams has to be somewhere in the top 10 though.
He's at #14, just behind Cencade Pennington.
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Indeed. The only people that had it worse than my tenure (1995-1999) were those suffering through the Barfield years.
I really meant overall.
My tenure at Auburn: 2003-2007.
My "horrible" year was either 8-5 "Go Crazy Cadillac" 2003 or 9-4 "How Cool is Wes Byrum?" 2007.
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Indeed. The only people that had it worse than my tenure (1995-1999) were those suffering through the Barfield years.
Barfield was a .500 coach. Wasted great talent far worse than Bowden, and, oh BTDub, 97 wasn't exactly a horrible year. Got to Atlanta, and finished ranked #11. While Bowden flamed out badly, Barfield never got cranked up. Give Bowden talent and he'll win, but you'd have to give it to him because he couldn't recruit for pissing off everybody he came in contact with.
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Indeed. The only people that had it worse than my tenure (1995-1999) were those suffering through the Barfield years.
Those were brutal years(beer consumption had to be at a all time high), it was like watching paint dry and you knew it was the wrong color, but you hoped and prayed that it would all come out good.
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I really meant overall.
My tenure at Auburn: 2003-2007.
My "horrible" year was either 8-5 "Go Crazy Cadillac" 2003 or 9-4 "How Cool is Wes Byrum?" 2007.
Fuck you. I got taunted with "3 and 8...ain't it great?!?!" while trudging out of that dump in West Bham.
oh BTDub, 97 wasn't exactly a horrible year. Got to Atlanta, and finished ranked #11.
I miss Dameyune Craig.
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Fuck you. I got taunted with "3 and 8...ain't it great?!?!" while trudging out of that dump in West Bham.
I miss Dameyune Craig.
I too made that trudge
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Fuck you. I got taunted with "3 and 8...ain't it great?!?!" while trudging out of that dump in West Bham.
I miss Dameyune Craig.
Werd!
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I too made that trudge
Me too. I'm not sure which was worse though...that one in Tuscaloosa east, or 2008 in their other home stadium.
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Me too. I'm not sure which was worse though...that one in Tuscaloosa east, or 2008 in their other home stadium.
I'm glad I didn't attend 2008's IB.
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I'm glad I didn't attend 2008's IB.
Left Abilene, TX heading back to Dallas at kickoff.
I made sure I planned it that way.
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I'm glad I didn't attend 2008's IB.
I only made it 2:00 into the 4th quarter...
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I only made it 2:00 into the 4th quarter...
I got the feeling during that game that Lord Saybinz doesn't like Auburn very much
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I only made it 2:00 into the 4th quarter...
Lasted longer than the football team.
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Indeed. The only people that had it worse than my tenure (1995-1999) were those suffering through the Barfield years.
I feel you. We had the same tenure. Last 2 years = not good.
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I feel you. We had the same tenure. Last 2 years = not good.
I was there '96-'00.
My last football season was '99. Three headed rushing attack of Rusty Williams, Clifton Robinson, and Markeith Cooper. Best running back was our best blocking back (Heath Evans). Only highlight was spanking UGA in Athens when Ronney Daniels did three lines of coke and just ran by everybody all night long.
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I was there '96-'00.
My last football season was '99. Three headed rushing attack of Rusty Williams, Clifton Robinson, and Markeith Cooper. Best running back was our best blocking back (Heath Evans). Only highlight was spanking UGA in Athens when Ronney Daniels did three lines of coke and just ran by everybody all night long.
Well, it is a helluva drug
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#1 Mark Pera - The worst fuckin lineman in Auburn History.
#2 AJ Greene - The second worst fuckin lineman in Auburn History.
#3 Neiko Thorpe (I don't fuckin care that he won some sort of award) - had a promising freshman season when he was Neiko Lipscomb, changed his name, then things turned to shit.
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Capps was a RT. But other than that, spot on.
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#3 Neiko Thorpe (I don't fuckin care that he won some sort of award) - had a promising freshman season when he was Neiko Lipscomb, changed his name, then things turned to shit.
He almost made the list. Almost. Mainly because he's symbolic for the 2008 season, but when I remembered that he contributed to the 2010 season, I couldn't put him on the list.
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Neiko Torched has to be on my list. I can't think of another player in AU history that I consistently :facepalm:'d over that much. I kept wondering if the guys behind him were really that bad...or if he walked in on Chiz and a little boy in the shower or what.
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Some of y'all have short term memories. (although probably a good thing)
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Neiko Torched has to be on my list. I can't think of another player in AU history that I consistently :facepalm:'d over that much. I kept wondering if the guys behind him were really that bad...or if he walked in on Chiz and a little boy in the shower or what.
I facepalmed more the second half of last season over Clint Moseley than I have in 3 years of Neiko.
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I facepalmed more the second half of last season over Clint Moseley than I have in 3 years of Neiko.
I may get hung for saying this but I would take Daniel Cobb over Moseley. Hell I would take Chris Todd in his first year over Moseley with Tony Franklin as Todds OC.
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I may get hung for saying this but I would take Daniel Cobb over Moseley. Hell I would take Chris Todd in his first year over Moseley with Tony Franklin as Todds OC.
Todd = Heisman compared to Moseley.
I'm ashamed I lobbied for him one time over Trotter. Never will I do that again. JR is right - the backup is always the most popular guy on the team per the fans when the starter ain't doing so hot. I keep thinking the same about Neiko. I'd hate to see his backup the last 3 years if he was the best thing we had to put out there.
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The rest of the SEC is mad that NT "graduated*" because their passing game takes a 15% dropoff.
*Did he get a degree or no? I haven't heard.
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The rest of the SEC is mad that NT "graduated*" because their passing game takes a 15% dropoff.
*Did he get a degree or no? I haven't heard.
If he did it was five yards behind him at the ceremony.
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If he did it was five yards behind him at the ceremony.
#winning
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If he did it was five yards behind him at the ceremony.
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I may get hung for saying this but I would take Daniel Cobb over Moseley. Hell I would take Chris Todd in his first year over Moseley with Tony Franklin as Todds OC.
That isn't really going out on much of a limb. Most would take Todd or Cobb over Moseley. Especially Todd.
You want to really go strong how about Gabe Gross? Would you take Gross over Moseley?
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That isn't really going out on much of a limb. Most would take Todd or Cobb over Moseley. Especially Todd.
You want to really go strong how about Gabe Gross? Would you take Gross over Moseley?
He was a gritty kid...wouldn't ball up in the fetal position if a LB got within 5 yards of him...so yes!
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That isn't really going out on much of a limb. Most would take Todd or Cobb over Moseley. Especially Todd.
You want to really go strong how about Gabe Gross? Would you take Gross over Moseley?
Not really fair. Gross was a freshman (I think). Also Gross had professional talent. Moseley does not.
Last year we had no choice. Poor Trotter shit the bed. None of us have no idea why, but he just lost it. should he have been given another chance and few games later? Sure. But for whatever reason, he became totally ineffective. Is Moseley horrible? No. But is he SEC quality? For now, no. But I believe in miracles.
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Not really fair. Gross was a freshman (I think). Also Gross had professional talent. Moseley does not.
Last year we had no choice. Poor Trotter shit the bed. None of us have no idea why, but he just lost it. should he have been given another chance and few games later? Sure. But for whatever reason, he became totally ineffective. Is Moseley horrible? No. But is he SEC quality? For now, no. But I believe in miracles.
Are we playing Russia?
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That isn't really going out on much of a limb. Most would take Todd or Cobb over Moseley. Especially Todd.
Even with Franklin as OC? Did we all forget how much of a match made in hell that was? Damn Moseley, you fuckn suck.
You want to really go strong how about Gabe Gross? Would you take Gross over Moseley?
I give Gabe the nod only because he was pretty good at baseball and thats he is ambidextrous. That is all.
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He was a gritty kid...wouldn't ball up in the fetal position if a LB got within 5 yards of him...so yes!
Make that three reasons.
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Make that three reasons.
Actually 4- Gross still contributes at Auburn- he is an undergraduate assistant on the baseball team.
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Actually 4- Gross still contributes at Auburn- he is an undergraduate assistant on the baseball team.
Well shit, I did not know that. That would be cool if he later became the HC of the baseball team.
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Make that 5 - because he's got a Dick and a Pussy.
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That isn't really going out on much of a limb. Most would take Todd or Cobb over Moseley. Especially Todd.
You want to really go strong how about Gabe Gross? Would you take Gross over Moseley?
Sure would. He wasn't a pussy. Gabe was a tough Auburn kid to the core. He just lacked Sec talent at that position. Baseball was always his sport for his talent.
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I don't know Gabe Gross.
Did he cry in front cameras ever in his career? If not, I'll take him. If so, well, I'll still probably take him.
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I don't know Gabe Gross.
Did he cry in front cameras ever in his career? If not, I'll take him. If so, well, I'll still probably take him.
He was the main QB toward the end of mine, weskies and aut2000's reign at Auburn. Wasn't much for talent, but he had grit - he at least tried. Cool guy too, Auburn all the way. Jeff Klein (his backup) was more like Moseley.
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He was the main QB toward the end of mine, weskies and aut2000's reign at Auburn. Wasn't much for talent, but he had grit - he at least tried. Cool guy too, Auburn all the way. Jeff Klein (his backup) was more like Moseley.
Gross was from rightcheya in Dothan and I saw him play both foosballz and basketball several times. Never went to a Northview baseball game but obviously, he was pretty damn good. I was blown away when he was offered a football scholly because while he was a great athlete, there was nothing to suggest he could pass on the college level. If memory serves, he was offered late and I think it may have had as much to do with his father, Lee Gross..former center at AU...as anything else. However, and I'm just guessing here, there may not have been anything available baseball wise with the limits on scholarships, so they gave a good athlete a football scholly, knowing baseball was his sport but also adding some depth at QB.
Having said that, I also don't believe he ever got a real chance to develop and show what he could do. Don't know if Gross would have ever developed into a good QB..kind of doubt it...but that was a horrible time in AU foosball and I hope most on here aren't too young to really comprehend the beating he took against UGA that night. The line situation was so bad by that time in the season, they had moved a 3rd string guard to TE just to have another big body to try and stem the flow. It was ugly. Thanks Terry.
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Gross was from rightcheya in Dothan and I saw him play both foosballz and basketball several times. Never went to a Northview baseball game but obviously, he was pretty damn good. I was blown away when he was offered a football scholly because while he was a great athlete, there was nothing to suggest he could pass on the college level. If memory serves, he was offered late and I think it may have had as much to do with his father, Lee Gross..former center at AU...as anything else. However, and I'm just guessing here, there may not have been anything available baseball wise with the limits on scholarships, so they gave a good athlete a football scholly, knowing baseball was his sport but also adding some depth at QB.
Having said that, I also don't believe he ever got a real chance to develop and show what he could do. Don't know if Gross would have ever developed into a good QB..kind of doubt it...but that was a horrible time in AU foosball and I hope most on here aren't too young to really comprehend the beating he took against UGA that night. The line situation was so bad by that time in the season, they had moved a 3rd string guard to TE just to have another big body to try and stem the flow. It was ugly. Thanks Terry.
No problem-excuse me now I have to go.
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Gross was from rightcheya in Dothan and I saw him play both foosballz and basketball several times. Never went to a Northview baseball game but obviously, he was pretty damn good. I was blown away when he was offered a football scholly because while he was a great athlete, there was nothing to suggest he could pass on the college level. If memory serves, he was offered late and I think it may have had as much to do with his father, Lee Gross..former center at AU...as anything else. However, and I'm just guessing here, there may not have been anything available baseball wise with the limits on scholarships, so they gave a good athlete a football scholly, knowing baseball was his sport but also adding some depth at QB.
Having said that, I also don't believe he ever got a real chance to develop and show what he could do. Don't know if Gross would have ever developed into a good QB..kind of doubt it...but that was a horrible time in AU foosball and I hope most on here aren't too young to really comprehend the beating he took against UGA that night. The line situation was so bad by that time in the season, they had moved a 3rd string guard to TE just to have another big body to try and stem the flow. It was ugly. Thanks Terry.
I have a skreetz story about Gabe. I heard that he was a pretty devout kid and not given over to profanity, and didn't like getting profanity back at him. Then he met Yox. Apparently Yox was not satisfied with the effort being given by the freshmen at a workout and decided to motivate them R. Lee Ermey style. Apparently Gross told him (privately) that he didn't appreciate the language. This had the exact opposite effect than intended with Tubs getting involved and basically telling them to work it out. They never really did and it was one factor in Gabe leaving the football team for full time baseball.
I will have to say that freshman standing up to Yox = huge balls or extreme stupidity.
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I have a skreetz story about Gabe. I heard that he was a pretty devout kid and not given over to profanity, and didn't like getting profanity back at him. Then he met Yox. Apparently Yox was not satisfied with the effort being given by the freshmen at a workout and decided to motivate them R. Lee Ermey style. Apparently Gross told him (privately) that he didn't appreciate the language. This had the exact opposite effect than intended with Tubs getting involved and basically telling them to work it out. They never really did and it was one factor in Gabe leaving the football team for full time baseball.
I will have to say that freshman standing up to Yox = huge balls or extreme stupidity.
He was devoutly stupid..with huge nads.
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I have a skreetz story about Gabe. I heard that he was a pretty devout kid and not given over to profanity, and didn't like getting profanity back at him. Then he met Yox. Apparently Yox was not satisfied with the effort being given by the freshmen at a workout and decided to motivate them R. Lee Ermey style. Apparently Gross told him (privately) that he didn't appreciate the language. This had the exact opposite effect than intended with Tubs getting involved and basically telling them to work it out. They never really did and it was one factor in Gabe leaving the football team for full time baseball.
I will have to say that freshman standing up to Yox = huge balls or extreme stupidity.
Not saying I don't buy it, but I highly doubt baseball would be any better in the vulgarity department.
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Not saying I don't buy it, but I highly doubt baseball would be any better in the vulgarity department.
I've heard some legendary stories about Corch Tricket and his foul mouf, but in person, I've never heard anyone to match Al Borges. Once said 6 different derivatives of "fuck" as a complete sentence. It was pure brilliance.
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Neiko Torched has to be on my list. I can't think of another player in AU history that I consistently :facepalm:'d over that much.
No shit! Each time an opponents QB would drop back to pass, I'd mutter, "FUCK! Where's number 15?" I'll suffer from PNTS (Post Neiko Thorpe Syndrome) for years to come.
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I'll suffer from PNTS (Post Neiko Thorpe Syndrome) for years to come.
I've found that mass quantities of pot and alcohol does wonders for this.
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I've found that mass quantities of pot and alcohol does wonders for this.
LSU wants to know if synthetic marijuana will be an acceptable substitute.
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LSU wants to know if synthetic marijuana will be an acceptable substitute.
Granted, along with Purple Drank.
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I've heard some legendary stories about Corch Tricket and his foul mouf, but in person, I've never heard anyone to match Al Borges. Once said 6 different derivatives of "fuck" as a complete sentence. It was pure brilliance.
Tricket and Dye were legendary foul moufs.
Dye was so tough the fuckers got T Shirts made up proclaiming they survived 2 a days with Coach Dye. Real story from the early-mid 80's.