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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: Kaos on January 10, 2012, 12:38:50 PM
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BCS Championship Bowl Reflections
It begins with defense 2010 was an anomaly. But not in the way Bama fans want you think. There are those who claim Auburn was a one-year wonder, but if that's the case there are a lot of those over the past 20 years. Perennial "powerhouses" Ohio State, Michigan, Texas and Oklahoma have exactly the same number of national titles as the Tigers in the past two decades. Where Auburn's 2010 title differed was in defense. The Tigers are the only team in the past 20 years to win a title while surrendering an average of more than 20 points per game. Auburn allowed an average of 24 in 2010. Fourteen of the last twenty title holders allowed double digits, but only LSU's 2007 squad (19.9 per game) came close to bumping 20.
The best defense ever? If it begins with defense, Alabama's 2011 team was a statistical shoe-in to win the title. Alabama allowed just 8.1 points per game this season, the lowest average of any BCS champion in the past 20 years. Miami's 1991 title team came the closest limiting opponents to an average of 8.3 points per game. Alabama is one of six teams since 1991 to hold opponents under a double digit total. The 1992 Alabama team often referenced as "tha best dayum defense evar!" allowed 9.3 points per game. But was this Alabama defense the best of all time?
Maybe not. Consider that the woefully anemic Auburn offense Alabama faced in the 2011 Iron Bowl was the fourth-highest scoring offense on the Tide's schedule last season. Vanderbilt's offense was the third best scoring offense. Alabama faced just six teams with a winning record and only Auburn, Penn State, Arkansas and LSU were more than a game over .500. Impressive performance, but the quality of opposition was suspect. Trade Auburn's 2011 schedule which included Clemson, South Carolina and Georgia for Alabama's Georgia State, North Texas and Tennessee and you're probably looking at a different result. Perhaps not in the win column, but definitely in the defensive totals.
Van Gorder is the most significant hire of Chizik's career Cam Newton was a freak of nature. He is in my mind one of the two or three greatest athletes to ever grace a college gridiron. His amazing athletic talent and single-minded will to win propelled Auburn to the national championship in 2010. He is, like Bo, a once in a generation player the likes of which we may not see in Auburn again in our lifetime. If the statistical history above tells me anything it is that we cannot rely on finding another Cam and must build Auburn's championship foundation on defense. Look no further than Alabama for evidence of that. Or look to Georgia. Alabama features a pedestrian quarterback, barely SEC-worthy by most measurable standards, a thick running back who gets far more credit than he deserves (there are a dozen backs as good in the SEC, see Dyer and Tate for examples) and an adequate offensive line. When the defense keeps the opponent from scoring a lot you can take that pedestrian offense and just grind on people. You don't have to be flashy. Winning is winning, ugly or not. Frankly, it's the way Dye did it. It's the way Tuberville did it for the most part except for his typical annual brain freeze.
Now look at Georgia. Richt focuses on offense. Stafford is a great quarterback. Greene was one of the best receivers in the country. David Greene was a quality QB. They've had and squandered some great talent at RB. But Georgia's defense? Only once since 2001 has Georgia held opposition to 15 points or less on average. In 2002 the Dogs allowed 15.1 ppg and won the SEC. In 2003 they gave up 14.5 and took the SEC-E. Since 2007? At least 20 per game every year. That will win some games and maybe keep your job but it's not going to do it nationally.
Oregon will never win a national championship. I don't care how fast Chip Kelley talks, how quick his little midgets are or how much Creepy Uncle Phil pumps into that program, until they man up and play solid defense they will never ever ever get there. Neither will any of the teams like them. That's what history says to me.
If Auburn under Chizik truly wants to stay on competitive ground with LSU, Alabama and the rest of the teams in the SEC the only way we get there is to concentrate on defense.
Fretting over the offensive coordinator is meaningless IMO. Are you seriously trying to tell me Jim McWilfane is some kind of offensive genius? If AU intends to get back in the fight the first thing that has to be done is limit scoring. It needs to be in the 15-points per game or under area. We need to hit people. When was the last time an Auburn defense really hit anybody other than the Oregon game?
That begins and ends with the Van Gorder hire.
LSU and adversity Never seen a supposed top echelon program respond worse to adversity than LSU last night. That goes for coaches and players. Jefferson was absolutely abysmal. The game plan was one dimensional and showed no recognition of trends, tendencies or history. It was worse than the game Auburn called against Alabama. It was a smart (albeit risky) move to go after Matthew and his idiotic hair because he plays on emotion and his emotion bleeds off to the rest of the team. When he was unable to make the play on a couple of the passes, the weiner badger was toast. He played like donkey turds and it had an impact on everybody else. Oh and Jefferson was awful. Terrible. Handcuffed perhaps by the worst offensive gameplan I've ever personally witnessed (and who'd have thought I could say that after the Clint Moseley Experiment?) but Jefferson was clearly -- CLEARLY -- not going to get it done. He could have directed 1000 possessions last night and gotten three first downs. Maybe. If you're Miles and it's obvious you're going to get your ass hammered, why do you stick with something that has zero chance of working? It was piss poor from the get go. I was ready to change the channel after the first LSU offensive possession. It was obvious what was about to happen even then. LSU's defense played well enough to win but you can't ask them to make stop after stop after stop when the offense can't even muster a first down.
Saban is a first class dick The tantrum over a penalty with under two minutes left was shameful. Made him look like a petty little assclown. Which he is. But he's doing something right. Whether it's cheating (as most suspect), 'roiding (as several have suggested after Richardson went from a 225 bench to 480) or intimidating (clearly) or maybe some deal with the devil, he has the Alabama program operating at a level we haven't seen in decades. Things go in cycles and it won't last forever. Something will happen. A disgruntled former player will tear it down from the outside, a prima donna on the inside will rip things apart, something will cause dissent and the program will fray, but it might be a while. The absolute control Saban exerts over the fans, the media and the players by being an absolute first class dick makes it harder for that type of fault to lead to true seismic activity.
There is no justice in the world Any reality which allows a reprobate like Harvey Updyke to become famous (infamous), to score tickets to the BCS game and to celebrate in the stadium while the team he worships with sick, slavish devotion wins a national title is a reality where there is no justice. If there were justice his hopes and dreams would have died a grisly death and he would have the opportunity to witness the complete and utter destruction of the program that claims not to want him (while treating him as a conquering hero). If there were justice he would live to see that program get the NCAA death penalty and be barred from competition until he passed from this earth.
Beyond that, any reality where a team doesn't win its own division, doesn't win its own league and is crowned national champions over the team that DID win both those titles is unequivocally unjust.
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Spot on! Nothing more to say.
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Good stuff. To add to this:
There is no justice in the world Any reality which allows a reprobate like Harvey Updyke to become famous (infamous), to score tickets to the BCS game and to celebrate in the stadium while the team he worships with sick, slavish devotion wins a national title is a reality where there is no justice. If there were justice his hopes and dreams would have died a grisly death and he would have the opportunity to witness the complete and utter destruction of the program that claims not to want him (while treating him as a conquering hero). If there were justice he would live to see that program get the NCAA death penalty and be barred from competition until he passed from this earth.
Beyond that, any reality where a team doesn't win its own division, doesn't win its own league and is crowned national champions over the team that DID win both those titles is unequivocally unjust.
To your first point, I find this disgusting for more reasons than one.
(http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/Portals/3/images/Resized/AlabamaSI2.jpg)
As to your second point, not only all of that, but they split the record 1-1 with the team they beat to achieve it. And that team had a much more impressive resume, having beaten the winner of 3 out of the 5 BCS bowl games (including Bama).
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Not that it means that much, but 5 AP voters voted against bammer being #1. 1 first place vote for LSU, 4 for Ok. State.
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Good stuff. To add to this:To your first point, I find this disgusting for more reasons than one.
disgusting photo removed
As to your second point, not only all of that, but they split the record 1-1 with the team they beat to achieve it. And that team had a much more impressive resume, having beaten the winner of 3 out of the 5 BCS bowl games (including Bama).
Who's paying for all that Bama ink? None of the LSU guys (at least in that pic) are covered stem to stern in tattoos.
Bama players are all a tattooted mass. Or mess as it were. Looks stupid.
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I agree with you totally save for one thing. I think bama's O-line is better than adequate. Defense and O-line I might sell my child for it.
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I agree with you totally save for one thing. I think bama's O-line is better than adequate. Defense and O-line I might sell my child for it.
I'll give you a pack of cigarettes for your sister.
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Excellent. Nice having you write article-type-posts again.
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I'll give you a pack of cigarettes for your sister.
Only brother, he's yours for free.
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Only brother, he's yours for free.
Put a dress and a wig on him and you got a deal
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Excellent. Nice having you write article-type-posts again.
I was trying to control my wind. Not working I guess.
Thought about a front page piece.
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I was trying to control my wind. Not working I guess.
Thought about a front page piece.
hence
http://www.tigersx.com/ (http://www.tigersx.com/)
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'roiding (as several have suggested after Richardson went from a 225 bench to 480)
He benched 380 in high school when he won the Florida state championship for weightlifting in the 2A class in '08.
http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2009/04/trent_richardson_wins_florida.html (http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2009/04/trent_richardson_wins_florida.html)
Richardson benched 380, clean and jerked 325 for a total of 705. Second-place was a guy named Brooke Peters from Sarasota High, who benched 355 and cleaned and jerked 330 for a total of 685.
In 2008, Richardson (weighing 214.6 pounds) had finished in second place after benching 345 and clean and jerking 335 for a total of 680.
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What LSU learned last night:
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(http://gif.mocksession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/JEFFERSON-BUTTHURT.gif)
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He benched 380 in high school when he won the Florida state championship for weightlifting in the 2A class in '08.
http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2009/04/trent_richardson_wins_florida.html (http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2009/04/trent_richardson_wins_florida.html)
So now the athletic department at bama is backdating fake blogs on al.com too? Complete with dead links and everything.
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What LSU learned last night:
Did anybody watch and see Mosley's injury on that play on the top GIF? Pretty sure he dislocated his hip on that play. His entire leg damn near rotated 1/4 of the way around. Looked painful as fuck. Clean play by Jefferson, just the way he tackled and Mosley was trying to stay upright. You'll have that.
I really think that Jefferson poisoned that team last night. Every time there was a bad play he had that whiney look on his face and would go up and bitch at the player involved in the play. Happened numerous times. I didn't really see him taking responsibility for any of the shitty play, and even said in interviews post-game that he played well, it's just the offense didn't execute as a whole.
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Did anybody watch and see Mosley's injury on that play on the top GIF? Pretty sure he dislocated his hip on that play. His entire leg damn near rotated 1/4 of the way around. Looked painful as fuck. Clean play by Jefferson, just the way he tackled and Mosley was trying to stay upright. You'll have that.
I really think that Jefferson poisoned that team last night. Every time there was a bad play he had that whiney look on his face and would go up and bitch at the player involved in the play. Happened numerous times. I didn't really see him taking responsibility for any of the shitty play, and even said in interviews post-game that he played well, it's just the offense didn't execute as a whole.
He did dislocate his hip, but they're saying he'll be fine. Apparently, they don't call horsecollars in the Big 12.
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He did dislocate his hip, but they're saying he'll be fine. Apparently, they don't call horsecollars in the Big 12.
Cool, I hadn't seen it posted anywhere. Yeah with that as long as you don't tear shit when the femur head pops out, you're good to go in a few months.
I don't think it was a horsecollar. Jefferson wrapped his arms around Mosley's entire body and just brought him down high. Clean tackle, Mosley just tried to shake it and it caused Jefferson to bring him down at an odd angle with foot planted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0virxAjg5wE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0virxAjg5wE#ws)
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Cool, I hadn't seen it posted anywhere. Yeah with that as long as you don't tear shit when the femur head pops out, you're good to go in a few months.
I don't think it was a horsecollar. Jefferson wrapped his arms around Mosley's entire body and just brought him down high. Clean tackle, Mosley just tried to shake it and it caused Jefferson to bring him down at an odd angle with foot planted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0virxAjg5wE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0virxAjg5wE#ws)
That one wasn't I guess, but it's why the rule exist, and they missed like 4 last night.
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He benched 380 in high school when he won the Florida state championship for weightlifting in the 2A class in '08.
http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2009/04/trent_richardson_wins_florida.html (http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2009/04/trent_richardson_wins_florida.html)
Typo, goat fucker.
The jump from 325 to 480 is still fucking significant.
He benched 380 ONE time in high school. It was his max. Reports are he pushed 480 23 times before giving out.
That's some bullshit there.
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Did anybody watch and see Mosley's injury on that play on the top GIF? Pretty sure he dislocated his hip on that play. His entire leg damn near rotated 1/4 of the way around. Looked painful as fuck. Clean play by Jefferson, just the way he tackled and Mosley was trying to stay upright. You'll have that.
I'm sorry his entire leg didn't pop off his fucking body like something from a leper movie or something.
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Typo, goat fucker.
The jump from 325 to 480 is still fucking significant.
He benched 380 ONE time in high school. It was his max. Reports are he pushed 480 23 times before giving out.
That's some bullshit there.
Yeah, I can't believe a football player that has a competitive weightlifting background could add 100 lbs to his bench over 2 years in a college football program. Totally ridiculous. Must be the roids. And adding the 35 lbs to his bench between '08 and '09? Roids. At least he knew how to use them before he got to Alabama. It freed up valuable staff hours for instruction of taking steroids for the white guys.
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Yeah, I can't believe a football player that has a competitive weightlifting background could add 100 lbs to his bench over 2 years in a college football program. Totally ridiculous. Must be the roids. And adding the 35 lbs to his bench between '08 and '09? Roids. At least he knew how to use them before he got to Alabama. It freed up valuable staff hours for instruction of taking steroids for the white guys.
You are one fucked up idiot.
Back to this:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2ejdP2MCuUs/STwVLYqj2VI/AAAAAAAABYs/CycANXW82zk/s400/goat+fun.JPG)
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You are one fucked up idiot.
Back to this:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2ejdP2MCuUs/STwVLYqj2VI/AAAAAAAABYs/CycANXW82zk/s400/goat+fun.JPG)
LOL. BTW, you stole what was to be my future avatar. I just ran across that a few days ago, and hadn't made the change yet.
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LOL. BTW, you stole what was to be my future avatar. I just ran across that a few days ago, and hadn't made the change yet.
You can use it. Seeing those titties twice as opposed to that dude in your avatar is absolutely no problem. I'm sure the board agrees. Board?
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You can use it. Seeing those titties twice as opposed to that dude in your avatar is absolutely no problem. I'm sure the board agrees. Board?
Bad form to have the same avatar IMO. And "that dude" is Samuel L. Jackson.
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Bad form to have the same avatar IMO. And "that dude" is Samuel L. Jackson.
A mothafuckin' Shark!
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Reports are he pushed 480 23 times before giving out.
Bull. Fucking. Shit.
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Bull. Fucking. Shit.
Sure he can. He's on steroids, remember? The whole team is. I mean, just look at AJ McCarron, Kenny Bell, Marquis Maze, Darius Hanks, Jesse Williams, Josh Chapman, etc. Remember Terrence Cody? Roids. Andre Smith? Roids. Trent Richardson adding 100 lbs to his bench over 2-3 years in a college program? Roids. He was probably taking them in high school when he was doing competitive weightlifting too. Before Saban recruited him, he knew he would have to hit the roids early if he wanted to play for Bama. I mean, come on, roids and cheating are the only ways Saban can win. Especially with that horrible defensive scheme he has, and horrible coaching. Geez, what a mess.....
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Sure he can. He's on steroids, remember? The whole team is.
You're not naive enough to think there's no steroids being used in big time CFB?
I have a good friend that played with Jay Barker-Evans, and says Jay is full of fucking shit when he says he didn't see any steroids being used. He also admits he juiced.
Friend of mine that played at Ole Miss in the mid 80s, arrived as a 6-4 180 WR, played his Jr. season as a 240lb TE. He said he was given specific instructions by his coaches on where to go to get them, and pretty well told flat out he'd not be able to keep up physically if he didn't juice.
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You're not naive enough to think there's no steroids being used in big time CFB?
No, I'm not. I simply think Kaos used a poor poor example in this case. He's going to bring up the topic of rumored (funny, I haven't really seen any stories on that) rampant steroid use on the team because a guy who participated in competitive weightlifting in high school added 100 lbs to his bench over a 2-3 year period of being in a college program? Especially when there are guys like McCarron, half the offensive and defensive lines, Maze, Hanks, Bell, etc etc on the team who are most obviously not all that physically gifted.
Kaos usually does a good job of masking how petty he is about some things, but that wasn't one of his better performances.
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Yeah, those guys really don't look all roided up...
(http://static.deseretnews.com/images/article/sidebar/688194/Ryan-Braun.jpg)
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Yeah, those guys really don't look all roided up...
And this guy does?
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/656/008/terrence-cody-weigh-in_display_image.jpg?1295627643)
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And this guy does?
And nobody wears houndstooth baseball hats either, do they BG03.1. You fucking goat fucking idiot. You've become just as obtuse and unable to craft a cogent argument as that recycled turd trimmer.
(http://deadlyjelly.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/5-taff-and-goat.jpg?w=600)
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And this guy does?
(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/656/008/terrence-cody-weigh-in_display_image.jpg?1295627643)
Funny story...A friend of my college roommate was on the juice for a while, but didn't work out much at all. He thought the roids themselves would take care of it. He looked pretty much like a white Cody.
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And nobody wears houndstooth baseball hats either, do they BG03.1. You fucking goat fucking idiot. You've become just as obtuse and unable to craft a cogent argument as that recycled turd trimmer.
(http://deadlyjelly.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/5-taff-and-goat.jpg?w=600)
Wait...I'm pretty sure that one's actually him.
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And nobody wears houndstooth baseball hats either, do they BG03.1. You fucking goat fucking idiot. You've become just as obtuse and unable to craft a cogent argument as that recycled turd trimmer.
I think you know that the point I made was pretty valid. You got called on your "typo", and can't really explain away the statement you made. Your article was pretty good, you just got petty when you went off on the steroid tangent.
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Typo, goat fucker.
The jump from 325 to 480 is still fucking significant.
He benched 380 ONE time in high school. It was his max. Reports are he pushed 480 23 times before giving out.
That's some bullshit there.
Ryan Kennelly can do 405 for 20 reps. And he's the strongest bencher in the worlds history. They are so full of shit.
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Wait...I'm pretty sure that one's actually him.
Too old.....and I like the dark ones anyway.
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Steroids are a baseball thing, not a D-I football drug anymore. I can honestly say that I never suspected anybody on the football team in college of using steroids. Most of our bench press maxes went up about 100 lbs. during our careers, which isn't hard to do when you have mandatory "voluntary" workouts everyday. The only drug used on most football teams is weed, and it's used a lot.
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Steroids are a baseball thing, not a D-I football drug anymore. I can honestly say that I never suspected anybody on the football team in college of using steroids. Most of our bench press maxes went up about 100 lbs. during our careers, which isn't hard to do when you have mandatory "voluntary" workouts everyday. The only drug used on most football teams is weed, and it's used a lot.
Yeah, you don't have a fuckin clue....(btw, if my bench max went up 100lbs from my HS Senior #s...I would've been pushing over 530lbs)
(http://sportsbore.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/cushingsteroids8546067xj3.jpg)
Also, at Miles College we had Kickers and Deep Snappers juicin'.
Another thing, man tits is a sign of the body not producing enough testosterone...it can be the result of using too much of the testosterone steriods and then stopping. Your body is used to having the testosterone being pumped in that it stops producing it. There are testosterone drugs that can be picked up at GNC to help kick start your body into producing it again.
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Girl look at that body......I work out.
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Not all steroids are going to make you jacked up and pack on 20lbs of muscle in two months or give you superhuman strength. Plus genetics have a lot to do with it. Just sayin.
Now do I think players are juicing, damn right they are, more than we want to admit.
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Maybe I am naive but I disagree. I don't think they are.
There is too much drug testing in the NFL, and I doubt all these college kids suddenly get to the next level and drop the juice. Honestly, I think technology has advanced supplements and the strength and conditioning coaches are the unheralded key to a lot of teams.
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Maybe I am naive but I disagree. I don't think they are.
There is too much drug testing in the NFL, and I doubt all these college kids suddenly get to the next level and drop the juice. Honestly, I think technology has advanced supplements and the strength and conditioning coaches are the unheralded key to a lot of teams.
I agree. This is what happens when you are juicing too much in college and then get to the NFL and mandatory random drug testing.
(http://www.accessathletes.com/userfiles/image/Tony%20Mandarich%20Sports%20Illustrated.jpg)
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I juiced back in the 90's. Used to love the orange/banana/strawberry combo but the clean up of the juicer afterward was a hassle.
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Old school
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Really looks good on Women
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Not all steroids are going to make you jacked up and pack on 20lbs of muscle in two months or give you superhuman strength. Plus genetics have a lot to do with it. Just sayin.
Now do I think players are juicing, damn right they are, more than we want to admit.
This guy knows.
In my peak days in the gym, there were many who were juicing and it was public fact. They openly discussed how many shots and cc's of different ones they took and the combos of each. They had gym bags with 5-10 supplements from GNC, staying at the gym for hours at a time. Not to sound like Hulk Hogan's cheesy ass, but I always ate right, worked hard and used some of my good genetics from my pops and was ahead of most of those guys for the most part through just pure will power and genetics a lot of times. I eventually got into powerlifting in my mid 20's and was able to actually compete with guys who used Perf Enhancers and bench shirts because of genetics and diet. I thought those guys looked ridiculous with all the antics. (if youve never been to a powerlifting meet, its a real site to behold and that's not a good thing) I got out of that stuff about 4 years ago when I started having joint issues and I don't really miss it a bit because of those types of guys. Going from 218 to 179 made me a lot healthier as well. Ive always hated the roid heads. Some of them are obvious like the guy in the USC picture but some are not because of piss poor genetics and other things.
In short, Trent is def a genetic freak, but I am also pretty sure he is getting a little help. Most guys that add 100+ lbs to their bench in 1-2 years weren't already at a high level like him. Its usually guys like had an avg or below avg bench to begin with. The higher you get, the harder it is to set PR's. Same with any other sport.
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This guy knows.
In my peak days in the gym, there were many who were juicing and it was public fact. They openly discussed how many shots and cc's of different ones they took and the combos of each. They had gym bags with 5-10 supplements from GNC, staying at the gym for hours at a time. Not to sound like Hulk Hogan's cheesy ass, but I always ate right, worked hard and used some of my good genetics from my pops and was ahead of most of those guys for the most part through just pure will power and genetics a lot of times. I eventually got into powerlifting in my mid 20's and was able to actually compete with guys who used Perf Enhancers and bench shirts because of genetics and diet. I thought those guys looked ridiculous with all the antics. (if youve never been to a powerlifting meet, its a real site to behold and that's not a good thing) I got out of that stuff about 4 years ago when I started having joint issues and I don't really miss it a bit because of those types of guys. Going from 218 to 179 made me a lot healthier as well. Ive always hated the roid heads. Some of them are obvious like the guy in the USC picture but some are not because of piss poor genetics and other things.
In short, Trent is def a genetic freak, but I am also pretty sure he is getting a little help. Most guys that add 100+ lbs to their bench in 1-2 years weren't already at a high level like him. Its usually guys like had an avg or below avg bench to begin with. The higher you get, the harder it is to set PR's. Same with any other sport.
Yep, football players are juicing. LOTS.
I even worked with cops that juiced. Several at a neighboring dept. got popped for it, one guy twice.
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Yep, football players are juicing. LOTS.
I even worked with cops that juiced. Several at a neighboring dept. got popped for it, one guy twice.
A guy I know here that works with the Sheriff's Dept said he used to be with the Sheriff's Dept. in Jacksonville, Fla. He said they almost required them to juice....without officially requiring it. Many years ago, obviously. But, he was straightforward about the fact that everyone juiced and they wanted their guys working out, pumped up and on edge at all times.
This guy was a true to life bad mofo too.
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A guy I know here that works with the Sheriff's Dept said he used to be with the Sheriff's Dept. in Jacksonville, Fla. He said they almost required them to juice....without officially requiring it. Many years ago, obviously. But, he was straightforward about the fact that everyone juiced and they wanted their guys working out, pumped up and on edge at all times.
This guy was a true to life bad mofo too.
A lot of the guys I mentioned overhearing in the gym back in the day were cops/firefighters. Most of them still do it around here from what I have heard from others.
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I juiced back in the 90's. Used to love the orange/banana/strawberry combo but the clean up of the juicer afterward was a hassle.
You should juice..the balls can't shrink anymore, and the hair...its gone. Why the fuck not!
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Yep, football players are juicing. LOTS.
I even worked with cops that juiced. Several at a neighboring dept. got popped for it, one guy twice.
I have often wondered how someone like Ronnie Coleman got away with it. It's obvious, but yet he has never been busted for it.
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I have often wondered how someone like Ronnie Coleman got away with it. It's obvious, but yet he has never been busted for it.
Jim can explain further or Token maybe, but I don't think it is THAT much of a crime to actually have them or do them. Distribution is more the serious crime. Remember, they are technically prescription drugs. It seems like the crime for having them would be just in posession of them w/o a script. Again, they know more about that than me. I think most cops have bigger fish to fry than roid users.
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Jim can explain further or Token maybe, but I don't think it is THAT much of a crime to actually have them or do them. Distribution is more the serious crime. Remember, they are technically prescription drugs. It seems like the crime for having them would be just in posession of them w/o a script. Again, they know more about that than me. I think most cops have bigger fish to fry than roid users.
I thought they were a schedule III controlled substance that would make it one year on first offense of possession? Lawyers, tell us more.
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Really looks good on Women
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That girls clit is probably bigger than Buzz's dead bird.
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That girls clit is probably bigger than Buzz's dead bird.
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I thought Buzz's was a clit?
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I thought they were a schedule III controlled substance that would make it one year on first offense of possession? Lawyers, tell us more.
I've never had a case of the roids, so I don't know for sure. Based on the guys I knew at the other dept. that got popped...they all had them legally, through scrips, but it was the doctor that got his ass in a sling with the medical board for all the cops that he said had "low testosterone". My bet is, the majority of the folks using, have a scrip from an unsavory doc.
But yeah, I think they're Sched. III
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I thought Buzz's was a clit?
No one knows exactly
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No one knows exactly
LIAR!!!