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Pat Dye Field => War Damn Eagle => Topic started by: JR4AU on December 24, 2011, 05:53:51 PM

Title: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: JR4AU on December 24, 2011, 05:53:51 PM
P. Manning's rookie stats: 16 games, 3 Wins,  326 Comp. 575 Att., 56.7%, 3,739 Yds, 6.5 Yds per Att., 26 TD 28Int, 71.2 Rating. 233 Yds per Game. (Lead league in Att. and Int., NFL rookie record for yards)

Rushing: 15 Att. 62 Yds, 4.1 YPC, 0 TD    

Cam Newton through 14 games.  283 Comp., 475 Att., 59.6%, 3,722 Yds, 7.84 Yds Per Att.   17 TD, 16 Int,   32   82.3 Rating, 266 Yds per Game.

Rushing: 114 Att., 609 Yds, 5.3 YPC, 13 TD

Today, in his 6th win of the season, he added the following: Passing: 12 of 17,   171 Yds, 70.6%, 10.06 YPA, 3 TD 0 Int, 142.4 Rating, including a 91 yard TD.  (Surpassing Manning's rookie record mark for yards passing, in game 15)

Rushing: 6 Att. 65 Yds, 10.8 Yds per Att., 1 TD, with one rush for 49 Yds.

Going in to today, he was the 30th leading rusher in the league, and #2 for QBs, one yard behind Tebow.  Today, he out-rushed Tebow by 31 yards. 

Merry Christmas haters!
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: bottomfeeder on December 24, 2011, 06:10:11 PM
Someone tell Bradshaw to go fuck himself.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/v/Trebqz6prYE&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=4]http://www.youtube.com/v/Trebqz6prYE&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trebqz6prYE#ws[/url)
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: GH2001 on December 25, 2011, 08:11:18 PM
Even when he was wowing us last year, I still don't think we realized how special a player we had at the time. The guy is unreal.
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: CCTAU on December 25, 2011, 09:19:00 PM
Hey, it's only his second season. Leave Tebow alone!
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: Godfather on December 25, 2011, 10:25:32 PM
Bottomfeeder FYI you don't have to add the html for flash.
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: JR4AU on December 26, 2011, 09:10:22 AM
Even when he was wowing us last year, I still don't think we realized how special a player we had at the time. The guy is unreal.

Barry Sanders sometimes took negative yards on rushes, but was capable of making NFL defenders look like the Keystone Cops.  Cam is the same way.  You'll never make NFL defenders look stupid on every play, but even having that ability at all is special.  That TD run looked much like the one against LSU last year.
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 26, 2011, 02:30:40 PM
Barry Sanders sometimes took negative yards on rushes, but was capable of making NFL defenders look like the Keystone Cops.  Cam is the same way.  You'll never make NFL defenders look stupid on every play, but even having that ability at all is special.  That TD run looked much like the one against LSU last year.

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Sanders also holds the NFL record for the most carries for negative yardage. According to the SI Book of Football, these numbers totaled 336 carries for -952 Yards.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Sanders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Sanders)
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: Kaos on December 26, 2011, 02:41:39 PM
Panthers coach says Newton should make Pro Bowl. 

http://www.panthers.com/media-vault/videos/Riveras-Remarks-Pro-Bowl-Campaign/5a039523-e8a2-43a9-a76e-c7f482b0118a (http://www.panthers.com/media-vault/videos/Riveras-Remarks-Pro-Bowl-Campaign/5a039523-e8a2-43a9-a76e-c7f482b0118a)

Who's the competition?

Rogers: Lock for one spot.
Brees: Lock for another spot.


After that?

Matt Stafford
Christian Ponder
Jay Cutler
Tony Romo
Eli Manning
Matt Ryan
Sam Bradford
Kevin Kolb
Tavaris Jackson
Alex Smith

Anybody else?

Cam finished third in fan voting behind Brees and Rogers.  I could see the media licking Manning ass and going that direction.   Could also see them rewarding Alex Smith for the 49ers improvement.   Stafford also deserves some consideration but probably won't get it. 

Anybody else have Cam in the Pro Bowl pool before the season?   I had Jimmy Clausen, dammit. 
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 26, 2011, 02:53:28 PM
Cam to the Pro Bowl would be sweet.  Big time vindication with all the naysayers. 

I don't think there's any doubt that he'll get better in years to come but one area that may make the biggest improvement is leadership.  Leadership you say?  Saw a report this weekend about how he tends to get down on himself late in the game if things start going south.  He was even quoted as saying he recognized that and needed to change.  Several videos showed him heading to the bench and grabbing a towel and putting it over his head and the coaches having to get his head back into it.  I think the guy has just never really experienced losing and/or things going wrong...but that's just my psychobabble analysis.  Not a real knock on the guy, just saying that since he recognizes it, we'll probably be seeing more 4th quarter come backs out of Mr. Newton.
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: Townhallsavoy on December 26, 2011, 03:10:32 PM
Cam's still young and learning to be a professional.  He'll get over his 4th quarter down syndrome soon enough. 

I vote Cam, but he won't get in.  Honestly, I think Romo will get the nod once they beat the Giants for the last playoff spot. 
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: Kaos on December 26, 2011, 03:11:07 PM
Cam to the Pro Bowl would be sweet.  Big time vindication with all the naysayers. 

I don't think there's any doubt that he'll get better in years to come but one area that may make the biggest improvement is leadership.  Leadership you say?  Saw a report this weekend about how he tends to get down on himself late in the game if things start going south.  He was even quoted as saying he recognized that and needed to change.  Several videos showed him heading to the bench and grabbing a towel and putting it over his head and the coaches having to get his head back into it.  I think the guy has just never really experienced losing and/or things going wrong...but that's just my psychobabble analysis.  Not a real knock on the guy, just saying that since he recognizes it, we'll probably be seeing more 4th quarter come backs out of Mr. Newton.

His teammates have mocked the towel over the head thing.  They find it amusing. 
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: Snaggletiger on December 26, 2011, 03:33:33 PM
His teammates have mocked the towel over the head thing.  They find it amusing.

Cam is not amused. Cam will have to slap a bitch.  Cam calls that leadership.
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: bottomfeeder on December 26, 2011, 11:11:44 PM
Bottomfeeder FYI you don't have to add the html for flash.

Thanks
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: The Prowler on December 27, 2011, 12:11:04 AM
"naysayers"...you mean just about ALL of the NFL Experts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jTx7KjrT28#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jTx7KjrT28#ws)



Here's the leadership (of a 22  year old)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz43MukLzIU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz43MukLzIU#ws)
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: AUChizad on December 27, 2011, 01:36:13 PM
The guy that said he has a "fake smile" tryin hard to come up with excuses for Cam's awesomeness.

Lowlights:

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Detractors and supporters alike point to the job that Panthers GM Marty Hurney has done to support Newton and how well offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski and QB coach Mike Shula have tailored the offense to his strengths.

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"Do you remember what 'Chud' did with Derek Anderson?" another evaluator said, remaining skeptical of what the coming years will bring. "He was awful — still is — and 'Chud' put him in the Pro Bowl that year in Cleveland. Don't forget it — he can make average quarterbacks look great."
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: GH2001 on December 27, 2011, 02:11:58 PM
The guy that said he has a "fake smile" tryin hard to come up with excuses for Cam's awesomeness.

Lowlights:

Dude is really desperate and reaching. Do average QBs win 2 NCs (at JUCO and AU), and run away with the Heisman? And then rewrite every rookie QB record in the NFL?

What an unwashed taint this guy is. He can go take a dirt nap with Bear and Shane for all I care.
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: AUChizad on December 27, 2011, 02:44:50 PM
Meant to link to the whole article earlier.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/12/26/scouts-eye-newtons-star-shines-brightly (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/12/26/scouts-eye-newtons-star-shines-brightly)
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: djsimp on December 27, 2011, 02:51:18 PM
Meant to link to the whole article earlier.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/12/26/scouts-eye-newtons-star-shines-brightly (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/12/26/scouts-eye-newtons-star-shines-brightly)

Its a good thing you did or sombody was gonna have to answer for that shit.
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: Ogre on December 27, 2011, 03:02:44 PM
Meant to link to the whole article earlier.

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/12/26/scouts-eye-newtons-star-shines-brightly (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2011/12/26/scouts-eye-newtons-star-shines-brightly)

I see that article even drew the ire of Captain e-Penis himself:  TitanTiger. See if you can spot him in the comments section.
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: AWK on December 27, 2011, 04:12:46 PM
I see that article even drew the ire of Captain e-Penis himself:  TitanTiger. See if you can spot him in the comments section.
He is an internet legend.
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: RWS on December 27, 2011, 06:04:03 PM
"naysayers"...you mean just about ALL of the NFL Experts?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jTx7KjrT28#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jTx7KjrT28#ws)



Nice to see Shula's blank stare again.
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: JR4AU on December 27, 2011, 06:11:12 PM
Dude is really desperate and reaching. Do average QBs win 2 NCs (at JUCO and AU), and run away with the Heisman? And then rewrite every rookie QB record in the NFL?

What an unwashed taint this guy is. He can go take a dirt nap with Bear and Shane for all I care.

Just another example of looking for a reason to not give credit where credit is due.  You can bet this guy won't blame coaching if Cam has a bad game or bad stretch of games any time in the future. 
Title: Re: He's not an NFL QB! He'll never make it!
Post by: bottomfeeder on December 27, 2011, 07:47:50 PM
I see that article even drew the ire of Captain e-Penis himself:  TitanTiger. See if you can spot him in the comments section.

He is an internet legend.
:rofl: :classic: